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"% surfs@uniserve" |
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06 Mar 2004 12:26:30 AM |
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THE AMOUNT OF GUN MURDERS IN CANADA IS |
just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11 thousand
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| User: "zer0 the her0" |
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| Title: Re: THE AMOUNT OF GUN MURDERS IN CANADA IS |
06 Mar 2004 10:46:11 AM |
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% wrote:
just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11 thousand
gotta love america...it aint for the whimpy...thats for sure...
take heed non americans.....dont come here, we'll jack you up!
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| User: "Tim Kettring" |
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| Title: Re: THE AMOUNT OF GUN MURDERS IN CANADA IS |
06 Mar 2004 12:33:53 AM |
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"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
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just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11 thousand
People just like to kill people here . If it were not guns , it would be (
and is ) knives and cars etc... People live closer to each other here too ,
so that probably is a factor too .
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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| Title: Re: THE AMOUNT OF GUN MURDERS IN CANADA IS |
06 Mar 2004 12:46:26 AM |
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"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:104isr2irg6cg3d@corp.supernews.com...
"Tim Kettring" <tim6kettring@e-garfield.com> wrote in message
news:c2brcg$1r4r1g$1@ID-212626.news.uni-berlin.de...
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:104irosb46ko1df@corp.supernews.com...
just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11
thousand
People just like to kill people here . If it were not guns , it would be
(
and is ) knives and cars etc... People live closer to each other here
too
,
so that probably is a factor too .
the media you get promotes paranoia ,
don't be so silly as to think people don't live close together here
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| User: "zer0 the her0" |
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| Title: Re: THE AMOUNT OF GUN MURDERS IN CANADA IS |
06 Mar 2004 10:46:59 AM |
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% wrote:
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:104isr2irg6cg3d@corp.supernews.com...
"Tim Kettring" <tim6kettring@e-garfield.com> wrote in message
news:c2brcg$1r4r1g$1@ID-212626.news.uni-berlin.de...
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:104irosb46ko1df@corp.supernews.com...
just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11
thousand
People just like to kill people here . If it were not guns , it would be
(
and is ) knives and cars etc... People live closer to each other here
too
,
so that probably is a factor too .
the media you get promotes paranoia ,
don't be so silly as to think people don't live close together here
media is indeed a problem...you ever see bowling for colombine %?
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: THE AMOUNT OF GUN MURDERS IN CANADA IS |
06 Mar 2004 03:28:54 PM |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 01:33:53 -0500, "Tim Kettring"
<tim6kettring@e-garfield.com> wrote:
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:104irosb46ko1df@corp.supernews.com...
just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11 thousand
People just like to kill people here . If it were not guns , it would be (
and is ) knives and cars etc... People live closer to each other here too ,
so that probably is a factor too .
The gun death rate in Vancouver is quite similar to the gun death rate in
Seattle.
You have to compare apples to apples.
---
We cannot but be astonished at the ease with which men resign themselves
to ignorance about what is most important for them to know; and we may be
certain that they are determined to remain invincibly ignorant if they once
come to consider it as axiomatic that there are no absolute principles.
- Fredric Bastiat
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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| Title: Re: THE AMOUNT OF GUN MURDERS IN CANADA IS |
06 Mar 2004 03:45:26 PM |
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@anonymous.net> wrote in message
news:kjgk40hci6m9b1hggchh9sejqbaj9vvt9q@4ax.com...
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 01:33:53 -0500, "Tim Kettring"
<tim6kettring@e-garfield.com> wrote:
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:104irosb46ko1df@corp.supernews.com...
just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11
thousand
People just like to kill people here . If it were not guns , it would be
(
and is ) knives and cars etc... People live closer to each other here too
,
so that probably is a factor too .
The gun death rate in Vancouver is quite similar to the gun death rate in
Seattle.
You have to compare apples to apples.
---
We cannot but be astonished at the ease with which men resign themselves
to ignorance about what is most important for them to know; and we may be
certain that they are determined to remain invincibly ignorant if they
once
come to consider it as axiomatic that there are no absolute principles.
- Fredric Bastiat
i was comparing apples to apples , one country , another country
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| User: "Luna" |
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| Title: Re: THE AMOUNT OF GUN MURDERS IN CANADA IS |
06 Mar 2004 07:33:02 AM |
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Tim Kettring wrote:
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:104irosb46ko1df@corp.supernews.com...
just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11
thousand
People just like to kill people here . If it were not guns , it would
be ( and is ) knives and cars etc... People live closer to each other
here too , so that probably is a factor too .
We have cities here, Tim. :) We also have lots of guns, though they
tend to be more of the hunting variety.
I think guns make killing easy - knives require a committment that guns
don't. I like Chris Rock's idea of making bullets cost 5k each.
Jean
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| User: "Tim Kettring" |
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| Title: Re: THE AMOUNT OF GUN MURDERS IN CANADA IS |
06 Mar 2004 01:05:24 PM |
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"Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c2cjtr$1rs8f5$1@ID-66050.news.uni-berlin.de...
Tim Kettring wrote:
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:104irosb46ko1df@corp.supernews.com...
just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11
thousand
People just like to kill people here . If it were not guns , it would
be ( and is ) knives and cars etc... People live closer to each other
here too , so that probably is a factor too .
We have cities here, Tim. :) We also have lots of guns, though they
tend to be more of the hunting variety.
I think guns make killing easy - knives require a committment that guns
don't. I like Chris Rock's idea of making bullets cost 5k each.
Jean
If someone gets hit with a bullet , 5k is a drop in the bucket , that might
almost cover the initial lawyer retainer maybe but doubtfully . Thanks for
the heads up , I have never been to Canada
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| User: "Luna" |
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| Title: Re: THE AMOUNT OF GUN MURDERS IN CANADA IS |
06 Mar 2004 02:01:56 PM |
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Tim Kettring wrote:
"Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c2cjtr$1rs8f5$1@ID-66050.news.uni-berlin.de...
Tim Kettring wrote:
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:104irosb46ko1df@corp.supernews.com...
just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11
thousand
People just like to kill people here . If it were not guns , it
would be ( and is ) knives and cars etc... People live closer to
each other here too , so that probably is a factor too .
We have cities here, Tim. :) We also have lots of guns, though they
tend to be more of the hunting variety.
I think guns make killing easy - knives require a committment that
guns don't. I like Chris Rock's idea of making bullets cost 5k each.
Jean
If someone gets hit with a bullet , 5k is a drop in the bucket , that
might almost cover the initial lawyer retainer maybe but doubtfully .
Thanks for the heads up , I have never been to Canada
True Tim, but to paraphrase Chris Rock:
"I'm going to put a cap in your ***** ... as soon as I can save up the
$5,000!"
It'd likely cut down on those imipulse murders at least. ;)
Jean
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: THE AMOUNT OF GUN MURDERS IN CANADA IS |
06 Mar 2004 03:31:12 PM |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 08:33:02 -0500, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote:
Tim Kettring wrote:
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:104irosb46ko1df@corp.supernews.com...
just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11
thousand
People just like to kill people here . If it were not guns , it would
be ( and is ) knives and cars etc... People live closer to each other
here too , so that probably is a factor too .
We have cities here, Tim. :) We also have lots of guns, though they
tend to be more of the hunting variety.
I think guns make killing easy - knives require a committment that guns
don't. I like Chris Rock's idea of making bullets cost 5k each.
Take it as you will, but quite frankly if they were to pass a law banning
black people from owning guns, the gun death rate in America would be lower
than most any industrialized country on earth. Chris Rock is partly onto
the problem, he just doesn't want to admit it.
---
The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by
the Prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the
government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be
enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this
country is closely connected with this.
- Albert Einstein, My First Impression of the U.S.A., 1921
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| User: "Hap Arnold" |
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06 Mar 2004 03:55:30 PM |
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@anonymous.net> wrote in message
news:blgk40psiv794cfbt1k746cbbdm13k0106@4ax.com...
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 08:33:02 -0500, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Tim Kettring wrote:
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:104irosb46ko1df@corp.supernews.com...
just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11
thousand
People just like to kill people here . If it were not guns , it would
be ( and is ) knives and cars etc... People live closer to each other
here too , so that probably is a factor too .
We have cities here, Tim. :) We also have lots of guns, though they
tend to be more of the hunting variety.
I think guns make killing easy - knives require a committment that guns
don't. I like Chris Rock's idea of making bullets cost 5k each.
Take it as you will, but quite frankly if they were to pass a law banning
black people from owning guns, the gun death rate in America would be
lower
than most any industrialized country on earth. Chris Rock is partly onto
the problem, he just doesn't want to admit it.
You need to look at the rate of murder by guns under control of their legal
owners, not gun murders.
DC has the toughest gun laws in the country but one of the worst murder
rates.
Gun laws just add an extra penalty to people in trouble with the law for
something else.
--
E Sempre l'Ora
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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06 Mar 2004 04:02:24 PM |
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"Hap Arnold" <CinCUSAAF@ghq.army.mil> wrote in message
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@anonymous.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 08:33:02 -0500, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Tim Kettring wrote:
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:104irosb46ko1df@corp.supernews.com...
just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11
thousand
People just like to kill people here . If it were not guns , it would
be ( and is ) knives and cars etc... People live closer to each other
here too , so that probably is a factor too .
We have cities here, Tim. :) We also have lots of guns, though they
tend to be more of the hunting variety.
I think guns make killing easy - knives require a committment that guns
don't. I like Chris Rock's idea of making bullets cost 5k each.
Take it as you will, but quite frankly if they were to pass a law
banning
black people from owning guns, the gun death rate in America would be
lower
than most any industrialized country on earth. Chris Rock is partly
onto
the problem, he just doesn't want to admit it.
You need to look at the rate of murder by guns under control of their
legal
owners, not gun murders.
DC has the toughest gun laws in the country but one of the worst murder
rates.
Gun laws just add an extra penalty to people in trouble with the law for
something else.
--
E Sempre l'Ora
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i don't need to look at the rate of anything , america has the highest
murder by gun rate in the world and that's all there is to it
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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07 Mar 2004 11:56:50 AM |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 16:55:30 -0500, "Hap Arnold" <CinCUSAAF@ghq.army.mil>
wrote:
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@anonymous.net> wrote in message
news:blgk40psiv794cfbt1k746cbbdm13k0106@4ax.com...
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 08:33:02 -0500, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Take it as you will, but quite frankly if they were to pass a law banning
black people from owning guns, the gun death rate in America would be
lower
than most any industrialized country on earth. Chris Rock is partly onto
the problem, he just doesn't want to admit it.
You need to look at the rate of murder by guns under control of their legal
owners, not gun murders.
DC has the toughest gun laws in the country but one of the worst murder
rates.
Gun laws just add an extra penalty to people in trouble with the law for
something else.
At least the laws *would* add an extra penalty if they weren't the first
charges tossed out in a plea-bargain. The mandatory five year sentence for
using a gun in the commission of a felony is rarely applied.
Come to think of it, the federal law against illegally attempting to
purchase a firearm is almost never enforced. All that hoopla over the
Brady Bill, and they almost never bring charges against a felon caught
trying to buy a gun.
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Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences.
- Robert Louis Stevenson
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| User: "Luna" |
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06 Mar 2004 08:53:26 PM |
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CyberDroog wrote:
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 08:33:02 -0500, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Tim Kettring wrote:
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:104irosb46ko1df@corp.supernews.com...
just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11
thousand
People just like to kill people here . If it were not guns , it
would be ( and is ) knives and cars etc... People live closer to
each other here too , so that probably is a factor too .
We have cities here, Tim. :) We also have lots of guns, though they
tend to be more of the hunting variety.
I think guns make killing easy - knives require a committment that
guns don't. I like Chris Rock's idea of making bullets cost 5k each.
Take it as you will, but quite frankly if they were to pass a law
banning black people from owning guns, the gun death rate in America
would be lower than most any industrialized country on earth. Chris
Rock is partly onto the problem, he just doesn't want to admit it.
I wonder - if they were to pass a law banning all MEN from owning guns,
what would happen then?
Jean
---
The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably
by the Prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect
for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which
cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase
of crime in this country is closely connected with this.
- Albert Einstein, My First Impression of the U.S.A., 1921
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: THE AMOUNT OF GUN MURDERS IN CANADA IS |
06 Mar 2004 10:34:20 PM |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 21:53:26 -0500, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
CyberDroog wrote:
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 08:33:02 -0500, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Tim Kettring wrote:
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:104irosb46ko1df@corp.supernews.com...
just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11
thousand
People just like to kill people here . If it were not guns , it
would be ( and is ) knives and cars etc... People live closer to
each other here too , so that probably is a factor too .
We have cities here, Tim. :) We also have lots of guns, though they
tend to be more of the hunting variety.
I think guns make killing easy - knives require a committment that
guns don't. I like Chris Rock's idea of making bullets cost 5k each.
Take it as you will, but quite frankly if they were to pass a law
banning black people from owning guns, the gun death rate in America
would be lower than most any industrialized country on earth. Chris
Rock is partly onto the problem, he just doesn't want to admit it.
I wonder - if they were to pass a law banning all MEN from owning guns,
what would happen then?
Jean
What about all the spics (hispanics)? They're just as violent as
blacks. Or are you one of those who believe spics ARE blacks?
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| User: "Luna" |
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07 Mar 2004 06:59:28 AM |
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wrote:
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 21:53:26 -0500, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
CyberDroog wrote:
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 08:33:02 -0500, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Tim Kettring wrote:
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:104irosb46ko1df@corp.supernews.com...
just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11
thousand
People just like to kill people here . If it were not guns , it
would be ( and is ) knives and cars etc... People live closer to
each other here too , so that probably is a factor too .
We have cities here, Tim. :) We also have lots of guns, though
they tend to be more of the hunting variety.
I think guns make killing easy - knives require a committment that
guns don't. I like Chris Rock's idea of making bullets cost 5k
each.
Take it as you will, but quite frankly if they were to pass a law
banning black people from owning guns, the gun death rate in America
would be lower than most any industrialized country on earth. Chris
Rock is partly onto the problem, he just doesn't want to admit it.
I wonder - if they were to pass a law banning all MEN from owning
guns, what would happen then?
Jean
What about all the spics (hispanics)? They're just as violent as
blacks. <snip weird remark>
Oh sure, hispanic men, chinese, black, indian, lebanese, white, all
races - if you've got a ***** then you don't get a gun. We can dole out
boxing gloves and raging bull t shirts instead - or perhaps Hanes
undershirts and boxing shorts.
That's it! The right to bare arms. (and all along you people thought
your forefathers mean GUNS, but nooooo)
Jean
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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07 Mar 2004 12:14:26 PM |
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On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 07:59:28 -0500, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote:
Oh sure, hispanic men, chinese, black, indian, lebanese, white, all
races - if you've got a ***** then you don't get a gun. We can dole out
boxing gloves and raging bull t shirts instead - or perhaps Hanes
undershirts and boxing shorts.
That's it! The right to bare arms. (and all along you people thought
your forefathers mean GUNS, but nooooo)
Cute, but since our forefathers were all in favor of *dueling* with guns,
their intentions are pretty clear. Alexander Hamilton died in duel.
Andrew Jackson kill a man in a duel shortly before his inauguration.
You can't be dueling with guns unless you own them, right?
BTW, all in all, wouldn't you say that men do more damage with their dicks
than their guns?
---
People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to
harass rich women than motorcycle gangs.
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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07 Mar 2004 12:44:28 PM |
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On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 22:34:20 -0600, wrote:
What about all the spics (hispanics)? They're just as violent as
blacks. Or are you one of those who believe spics ARE blacks?
??? Latinos have a lower violent crime rate than blacks.
Latinos also have a much higher rate of two parent families. Maybe there
is a connection.
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LOW-BRED, adj. "Raised" instead of brought up.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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07 Mar 2004 12:04:54 PM |
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On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 21:53:26 -0500, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote:
CyberDroog wrote:
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 08:33:02 -0500, "Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Take it as you will, but quite frankly if they were to pass a law
banning black people from owning guns, the gun death rate in America
would be lower than most any industrialized country on earth. Chris
Rock is partly onto the problem, he just doesn't want to admit it.
I wonder - if they were to pass a law banning all MEN from owning guns,
what would happen then?
I guess we could use G. Gordon Liddy as an example. Since he was convicted
of a felony he isn't allowed to own a firearm. His solution? His wife
buys guns, but she stores them in *his* night stand.
I've seen the process dozens of times at the gun range/store. Men looking
over all sorts of guns, picking the one they want, and then... the woman
pops out her drivers license to make the purchase. No need to mention race
since everyone already understands that issue, even if they want to deny
it.
This particular gun store, Badger Guns and Ammo in Milwaukee, is nationally
recognized as being one of the primary initial sources of guns used in
felonies.
And how many of those women are charged with a crime for delivering a gun
to a known felon? Virtually zero.
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ASPERSE, v.t. Maliciously to ascribe to another vicious actions which one
has not had the temptation and opportunity to commit.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "juno7" |
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| Title: Re: THE AMOUNT OF GUN MURDERS IN CANADA IS |
06 Mar 2004 12:50:02 PM |
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Wow. that was a very poetic way to put it. 'kinves require committment that
guns dont'
i really love how you phrased that
"Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c2cjtr$1rs8f5$1@ID-66050.news.uni-berlin.de...
We have cities here, Tim. :) We also have lots of guns, though they
tend to be more of the hunting variety.
I think guns make killing easy - knives require a committment that guns
don't. I like Chris Rock's idea of making bullets cost 5k each.
Jean
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| User: "Luna" |
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| Title: Re: THE AMOUNT OF GUN MURDERS IN CANADA IS |
06 Mar 2004 02:02:31 PM |
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juno7 wrote:
Wow. that was a very poetic way to put it. 'kinves require
committment that guns dont'
i really love how you phrased that
Thanks!
"Luna" <jean_collins@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c2cjtr$1rs8f5$1@ID-66050.news.uni-berlin.de...
We have cities here, Tim. :) We also have lots of guns, though they
tend to be more of the hunting variety.
I think guns make killing easy - knives require a committment that
guns don't. I like Chris Rock's idea of making bullets cost 5k each.
Jean
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| User: "juno7" |
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06 Mar 2004 12:48:09 PM |
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We always outdo everybody, dont we
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:104irosb46ko1df@corp.supernews.com...
just over 300 ,
the amount of gun murders in the USA in one year is just over 11 thousand
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