Sociology > Depression > the architecture of infectious music? and how does music "work" on us ?
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01 Jun 2006 09:24:31 AM |
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the architecture of infectious music? and how does music "work" on us ? |
I don't understand how modern music is constructed. whatever your favorite
music is from "modern times" 80s, 90s, 2000s, how are those "infectious"
tunes made? what is it about music that sounds pleasing to the ears ? how
is it that our favorite songs, or music that we hear for the first time,
kind of resonates
within us? I'm thinking of the words, "aural bliss", how does all that
work? music can really take you for a trip. I know music is composed and
written. There are usually several musical elements layered together, in
addition to all the vocals (if there are vocals) to create a complete
song/track/tune. It's all a mystery to me.
maybe someone who understands music much better than I do can share some of
his/her insight on the subject. how music is made to effect us, *how* it
effects us, and why.
yes music can help with mild to moderate depression to some degree.
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01 Jun 2006 10:01:32 AM |
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"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
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I don't understand how modern music is constructed. whatever your
favorite
music is from "modern times" 80s, 90s, 2000s, how are those
"infectious"
tunes made? what is it about music that sounds pleasing to the ears ?
how
is it that our favorite songs, or music that we hear for the first time,
kind of resonates
within us? I'm thinking of the words, "aural bliss", how does all
that
work? music can really take you for a trip. I know music is composed
and
written. There are usually several musical elements layered together, in
addition to all the vocals (if there are vocals) to create a complete
song/track/tune. It's all a mystery to me.
you might pick up a copy of Aaron Copland's What to Listen for in Music.
well, his emphasis is on "classical" but the same rules apply to others.
you have melody (tune), rhythm (beat), harmony (interaction), tone (sound).
for instance with a fugue, you write a melody, then you modify the melody,
combine the two, while seeking to have a harmony between the two. obviously
this gets very complex with 6 threads.
i agree there is something magical about some pieces e.g. Beethoven's 9th
and Coldplay's Clocks.
explaining harmony is simple, yet complex. there are pleasing combinations
(consonance) and unpleasing combinations (dissonance). it seems that using
some combinations of tones and avoiding others is pleasing to the ears
(tonal). however, much modern classical is dissonant and atonal. the
public's opinions on music change, for instance Beethoven was radical for
his time period.
Gravity
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| User: "aaron from suburbia" |
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01 Jun 2006 04:08:01 PM |
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"gravity" <gravityzrainbow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
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I don't understand how modern music is constructed. whatever your
favorite
music is from "modern times" 80s, 90s, 2000s, how are those
"infectious"
tunes made? what is it about music that sounds pleasing to the ears ?
how
is it that our favorite songs, or music that we hear for the first time,
kind of resonates
within us? I'm thinking of the words, "aural bliss", how does all
that
work? music can really take you for a trip. I know music is composed
and
written. There are usually several musical elements layered together, in
addition to all the vocals (if there are vocals) to create a complete
song/track/tune. It's all a mystery to me.
you might pick up a copy of Aaron Copland's What to Listen for in Music.
well, his emphasis is on "classical" but the same rules apply to others.
you have melody (tune), rhythm (beat), harmony (interaction), tone
(sound).
for instance with a fugue, you write a melody, then you modify the melody,
combine the two, while seeking to have a harmony between the two.
obviously
this gets very complex with 6 threads.
i agree there is something magical about some pieces e.g. Beethoven's 9th
and Coldplay's Clocks.
explaining harmony is simple, yet complex. there are pleasing
combinations
(consonance) and unpleasing combinations (dissonance). it seems that
using
some combinations of tones and avoiding others is pleasing to the ears
(tonal). however, much modern classical is dissonant and atonal. the
public's opinions on music change, for instance Beethoven was radical for
his time period.
Gravity
Whoa, Gravity, i''m very impressed with the knowledge you have about music.
even the basics
I completely forgot to mention
-melody / tune
-rhythm / beat
-harmony
-tone
etc
but I always knew the combinding of various elements is part of the "magic"
to music.
what i'm saying right now here probably does not make much sense, because I
still don't really understand all of this. though i'm gonna start reading up
on the subject.
i guess i should start with how CLASSIC music works, but i was more thinking
about modern music (for me, modern music is 1980s to the present)
thanks for both of your posts.
looking forward to other people's reply too!
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01 Jun 2006 04:13:03 PM |
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"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
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"gravity" <gravityzrainbow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
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I don't understand how modern music is constructed. whatever your
favorite
music is from "modern times" 80s, 90s, 2000s, how are those
"infectious"
tunes made? what is it about music that sounds pleasing to the ears ?
how
is it that our favorite songs, or music that we hear for the first
time,
kind of resonates
within us? I'm thinking of the words, "aural bliss", how does all
that
work? music can really take you for a trip. I know music is
composed
and
written. There are usually several musical elements layered together,
in
addition to all the vocals (if there are vocals) to create a complete
song/track/tune. It's all a mystery to me.
you might pick up a copy of Aaron Copland's What to Listen for in Music.
well, his emphasis is on "classical" but the same rules apply to others.
you have melody (tune), rhythm (beat), harmony (interaction), tone
(sound).
for instance with a fugue, you write a melody, then you modify the
melody,
combine the two, while seeking to have a harmony between the two.
obviously
this gets very complex with 6 threads.
i agree there is something magical about some pieces e.g. Beethoven's
9th
and Coldplay's Clocks.
explaining harmony is simple, yet complex. there are pleasing
combinations
(consonance) and unpleasing combinations (dissonance). it seems that
using
some combinations of tones and avoiding others is pleasing to the ears
(tonal). however, much modern classical is dissonant and atonal. the
public's opinions on music change, for instance Beethoven was radical
for
his time period.
Gravity
Whoa, Gravity, i''m very impressed with the knowledge you have about
music.
even the basics
I completely forgot to mention
-melody / tune
-rhythm / beat
-harmony
-tone
etc
but I always knew the combinding of various elements is part of the
"magic"
to music.
what i'm saying right now here probably does not make much sense, because
I
still don't really understand all of this. though i'm gonna start reading
up
on the subject.
i guess i should start with how CLASSIC music works, but i was more
thinking
about modern music (for me, modern music is 1980s to the present)
thanks for both of your posts.
looking forward to other people's reply too!
Gravity can't play any musical insterment ,
has no musical writing skill ,
and couldn't carry a tune in a KFC bucket
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| User: "Luna" |
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15 Jun 2006 05:19:55 PM |
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gravity wrote:
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He's not asking for a damn list, Michael. His question is why? Why
does music affect us so much? Why do certain kinds of music evoke
certain reactions, etc. Why is there such a wide spectrum of reactions
to such a wide spectrum of different kinds of music?
It's pretty fascinating stuff. I wish Oliver Sachs were here, this is
a question more for a neurologist than it is for a musician. The ideal
would be a neurologist/musician, of course.
Jean
Gravity
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| User: "%" |
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15 Jun 2006 05:21:27 PM |
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"Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote in message
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gravity wrote:
<snip>
He's not asking for a damn list, Michael. His question is why? Why
does music affect us so much? Why do certain kinds of music evoke
certain reactions, etc. Why is there such a wide spectrum of reactions
to such a wide spectrum of different kinds of music?
It's pretty fascinating stuff. I wish Oliver Sachs were here, this is
a question more for a neurologist than it is for a musician. The ideal
would be a neurologist/musician, of course.
Jean
Gravity
hi
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| User: "Luna" |
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15 Jun 2006 05:24:41 PM |
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% wrote:
"Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote in message
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gravity wrote:
<snip>
He's not asking for a damn list, Michael. His question is why? Why
does music affect us so much? Why do certain kinds of music evoke
certain reactions, etc. Why is there such a wide spectrum of reactions
to such a wide spectrum of different kinds of music?
It's pretty fascinating stuff. I wish Oliver Sachs were here, this is
a question more for a neurologist than it is for a musician. The ideal
would be a neurologist/musician, of course.
Jean
Gravity
hi
Can I sing you a song?
Jean
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15 Jun 2006 05:42:18 PM |
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"Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote in message
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% wrote:
"Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote in message
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gravity wrote:
<snip>
He's not asking for a damn list, Michael. His question is why? Why
does music affect us so much? Why do certain kinds of music evoke
certain reactions, etc. Why is there such a wide spectrum of
reactions
to such a wide spectrum of different kinds of music?
It's pretty fascinating stuff. I wish Oliver Sachs were here, this is
a question more for a neurologist than it is for a musician. The
ideal
would be a neurologist/musician, of course.
Jean
Gravity
hi
Can I sing you a song?
Jean
only if i can brain scan you as you do it
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| User: "Luna" |
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15 Jun 2006 05:48:24 PM |
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% wrote:
"Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote in message
<snip>
Can I sing you a song?
Jean
only if i can brain scan you as you do it
This could lead to our own show on the Discovery Channel.
Jean
'Don't you love these The First 48 Marathons?'
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| User: "gravity" |
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01 Jun 2006 09:46:31 AM |
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"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
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I don't understand how modern music is constructed. whatever your
favorite
music is from "modern times" 80s, 90s, 2000s, how are those
"infectious"
tunes made? what is it about music that sounds pleasing to the ears ?
i think it varies. i find some pop and rock to be absolutely unlistenable,
including most of the megahits from the 70s.
i think most rock and pop is simple music, and that formula hasn't changed
much in the last 1000 years. there have been massive shifts in some genres.
for example, serious composition went from monophonic to polyphonic to
homophonic (even went atonal).
Gravity
how
is it that our favorite songs, or music that we hear for the first time,
kind of resonates
within us? I'm thinking of the words, "aural bliss", how does all
that
work? music can really take you for a trip. I know music is composed
and
written. There are usually several musical elements layered together, in
addition to all the vocals (if there are vocals) to create a complete
song/track/tune. It's all a mystery to me.
maybe someone who understands music much better than I do can share some
of
his/her insight on the subject. how music is made to effect us, *how* it
effects us, and why.
yes music can help with mild to moderate depression to some degree.
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01 Jun 2006 03:29:42 PM |
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aaron from suburbia wrote:
I don't understand how modern music is constructed. whatever your favorite
music is from "modern times" 80s, 90s, 2000s, how are those "infectious"
tunes made? what is it about music that sounds pleasing to the ears ? how
is it that our favorite songs, or music that we hear for the first time,
kind of resonates
within us? I'm thinking of the words, "aural bliss", how does all that
work? music can really take you for a trip. I know music is composed and
written. There are usually several musical elements layered together, in
addition to all the vocals (if there are vocals) to create a complete
song/track/tune. It's all a mystery to me.
maybe someone who understands music much better than I do can share some of
his/her insight on the subject. how music is made to effect us, *how* it
effects us, and why.
yes music can help with mild to moderate depression to some degree.
I don't understand music at all, but there is nothing like hearing a
song to bring you back instantly to a specific time and place in your
memory, and bring back the general emotions you were feeling at the
time... I don't think any music effects us as much as music from our
childhood... Well, maybe that's not true, but I would think that no
music can have as much of an emotional effect on us as that which we
heard at certain periods in our life... it would be interetsing to know
how exactly music evokes those feelings and memories, and it would be
great if there were some way to erase from our minds the painful
memories and feelings associated with hearing certain music...
-"jordie"
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| User: "aaron from suburbia" |
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01 Jun 2006 04:14:48 PM |
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<Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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aaron from suburbia wrote:
I don't understand how modern music is constructed. whatever your
favorite
music is from "modern times" 80s, 90s, 2000s, how are those
"infectious"
tunes made? what is it about music that sounds pleasing to the ears ?
how
is it that our favorite songs, or music that we hear for the first time,
kind of resonates
within us? I'm thinking of the words, "aural bliss", how does all
that
work? music can really take you for a trip. I know music is composed
and
written. There are usually several musical elements layered together, in
addition to all the vocals (if there are vocals) to create a complete
song/track/tune. It's all a mystery to me.
maybe someone who understands music much better than I do can share some
of
his/her insight on the subject. how music is made to effect us, *how*
it
effects us, and why.
yes music can help with mild to moderate depression to some degree.
I don't understand music at all, but there is nothing like hearing a
song to bring you back instantly to a specific time and place in your
memory, and bring back the general emotions you were feeling at the
time... I don't think any music effects us as much as music from our
childhood... Well, maybe that's not true, but I would think that no
music can have as much of an emotional effect on us as that which we
heard at certain periods in our life... it would be interetsing to know
how exactly music evokes those feelings and memories, and it would be
great if there were some way to erase from our minds the painful
memories and feelings associated with hearing certain music...
-"jordie"
I totally 100% agree Jordie. music from my childhood and teenage years
are the most significant to me. Yet also, songs that I had never heard
during those years, but were made during those years, that I get to hear
now,also have a huge impact, because its the same types of music that I
like. And also, music from the last 5-8 years, of more recent times, can
still have an incredible impact even though it's not music from childhood.
just that right tune can completely change one's mood, even for an entire
day. I agree though, that music from our childhood can bring us back
instantly to those memories, time and place.
sorry my post is probably a bit incoherent and jumbled. not my best writting
time. anyway, thanks Jordie for the reply, it makes complete sense.
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| User: "Luna" |
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15 Jun 2006 05:23:57 PM |
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wrote:
aaron from suburbia wrote:
I don't understand how modern music is constructed. whatever your favorite
music is from "modern times" 80s, 90s, 2000s, how are those "infectious"
tunes made? what is it about music that sounds pleasing to the ears ? how
is it that our favorite songs, or music that we hear for the first time,
kind of resonates
within us? I'm thinking of the words, "aural bliss", how does all that
work? music can really take you for a trip. I know music is composed and
written. There are usually several musical elements layered together, in
addition to all the vocals (if there are vocals) to create a complete
song/track/tune. It's all a mystery to me.
maybe someone who understands music much better than I do can share some of
his/her insight on the subject. how music is made to effect us, *how* it
effects us, and why.
yes music can help with mild to moderate depression to some degree.
I don't understand music at all, but there is nothing like hearing a
song to bring you back instantly to a specific time and place in your
memory, and bring back the general emotions you were feeling at the
time... I don't think any music effects us as much as music from our
childhood... Well, maybe that's not true, but I would think that no
music can have as much of an emotional effect on us as that which we
heard at certain periods in our life... it would be interetsing to know
how exactly music evokes those feelings and memories, and it would be
great if there were some way to erase from our minds the painful
memories and feelings associated with hearing certain music...
Jordie gets it!
Maybe Nom can help out here, he seems to have a pretty good grasp or
brain chemistry (because that's what music is affecting, right)?
So why would certain tones strung together into certain melodies be SO
energizing to people in various emotional ways?
Here's my first (probably stupid) thought. It goes back to birds
singing in the morning and is an evolutionary device devised to get us
up, chipper and bursting into our days with vitality. Evoking other
emotions was just a hop, skip and a jump into similar neural pathways,
all controlling emotion.
Jean
-"jordie"
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| User: "Luna" |
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15 Jun 2006 05:15:36 PM |
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aaron from suburbia wrote:
I don't understand how modern music is constructed. whatever your favorite
music is from "modern times" 80s, 90s, 2000s, how are those "infectious"
tunes made? what is it about music that sounds pleasing to the ears ? how
is it that our favorite songs, or music that we hear for the first time,
kind of resonates
within us? I'm thinking of the words, "aural bliss", how does all that
work? music can really take you for a trip. I know music is composed and
written. There are usually several musical elements layered together, in
addition to all the vocals (if there are vocals) to create a complete
song/track/tune. It's all a mystery to me.
I have wondered about this for fricking HOURS. What is it about
Pachalbel or Smokin' in the Boys Room that pleases me so? Music is to
emotions what smells are to memory. I'd love to know how this works.
Jean
'and what's up with country music? can someone explain THAT??'
maybe someone who understands music much better than I do can share some of
his/her insight on the subject. how music is made to effect us, *how* it
effects us, and why.
yes music can help with mild to moderate depression to some degree.
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| User: "aaron from suburbia" |
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18 Jun 2006 08:41:26 PM |
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Luna wrote:
I have wondered about this for fricking HOURS. What is it about
Pachalbel or Smokin' in the Boys Room that pleases me so? Music is to
emotions what smells are to memory. I'd love to know how this works.
Jean
'and what's up with country music? can someone explain THAT??'
I could list SO many examples of music that has that certain potent
powerful all-encompassing, all-surrounding quality that effects the
very essense of one being.
I'd really like to know how all of this works. Gravity made a good
start. I wanna know more.
and good analogy there Jean.
as for country music, I don't get that at ALL ;)
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| User: "gravity" |
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19 Jun 2006 06:23:02 AM |
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"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
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Luna wrote:
I have wondered about this for fricking HOURS. What is it about
Pachalbel or Smokin' in the Boys Room that pleases me so? Music is to
emotions what smells are to memory. I'd love to know how this works.
Jean
'and what's up with country music? can someone explain THAT??'
I could list SO many examples of music that has that certain potent
powerful all-encompassing, all-surrounding quality that effects the
very essense of one being.
I'd really like to know how all of this works. Gravity made a good
start. I wanna know more.
and good analogy there Jean.
as for country music, I don't get that at ALL ;)
i consider country music to be the lowest form of music there is. it's like
folk only missing any sense of soul or style.
Gravity
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19 Jun 2006 05:19:44 PM |
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gravity wrote:
"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
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Luna wrote:
I have wondered about this for fricking HOURS. What is it about
Pachalbel or Smokin' in the Boys Room that pleases me so? Music is to
emotions what smells are to memory. I'd love to know how this works.
Jean
'and what's up with country music? can someone explain THAT??'
I could list SO many examples of music that has that certain potent
powerful all-encompassing, all-surrounding quality that effects the
very essense of one being.
I'd really like to know how all of this works. Gravity made a good
start. I wanna know more.
and good analogy there Jean.
as for country music, I don't get that at ALL ;)
i consider country music to be the lowest form of music there is. it's like
folk only missing any sense of soul or style.
Gravity
It has its own soul, it has its own style. It's a matter of personal
taste. I can name at least several genres whose musical validity I
question, but I would probably wind up stepping on some toes. Point
is, it moves people. That's what any music should do. The
highbrow-lowbrow ranking is pure snobbery and I'm as guilty as anyone
of using it.
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20 Jun 2006 01:35:16 AM |
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In message <1150755584.159903.173320@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Pinwheel <pinwheel@volcanomail.com> writes
gravity wrote:
"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
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Luna wrote:
I have wondered about this for fricking HOURS. What is it about
Pachalbel or Smokin' in the Boys Room that pleases me so? Music is to
emotions what smells are to memory. I'd love to know how this works.
'and what's up with country music? can someone explain THAT??'
I could list SO many examples of music that has that certain potent
powerful all-encompassing, all-surrounding quality that effects the
very essense of one being.
I'd really like to know how all of this works. Gravity made a good
start. I wanna know more.
and good analogy there Jean.
as for country music, I don't get that at ALL ;)
i consider country music to be the lowest form of music there is. it's like
folk only missing any sense of soul or style.
It has its own soul, it has its own style. It's a matter of personal
taste. I can name at least several genres whose musical validity I
question, but I would probably wind up stepping on some toes. Point
is, it moves people. That's what any music should do. The
highbrow-lowbrow ranking is pure snobbery and I'm as guilty as anyone
of using it.
I seem to be able to listen to 'the best of' most types of music, though
freeform jazz passes me by, and gamelin music is beyond my current
comprehension. Maybe musicianship transcends musical genre.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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20 Jun 2006 08:04:48 AM |
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I seem to be able to listen to 'the best of' most types of music, though
freeform jazz passes me by, and gamelin music is beyond my current
comprehension. Maybe musicianship transcends musical genre.
if you are referring to atonal jazz, it is pretty far out there. the break
with tonality in classical occured somewhere around 1920. i believe jazz
did something similar around 1960.
if one is skeptical of Mondrian and Kandinsky, then it would not be
suprising that one is skeptical of atonal classical and jazz.
that said, i can name a few atonal works that i enjoy.
Gravity
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The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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20 Jun 2006 04:47:25 PM |
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gravity wrote:
I seem to be able to listen to 'the best of' most types of music, though
freeform jazz passes me by, and gamelin music is beyond my current
comprehension. Maybe musicianship transcends musical genre.
if you are referring to atonal jazz, it is pretty far out there. the break
with tonality in classical occured somewhere around 1920. i believe jazz
did something similar around 1960.
if one is skeptical of Mondrian and Kandinsky, then it would not be
suprising that one is skeptical of atonal classical and jazz.
that said, i can name a few atonal works that i enjoy.
Gravity
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The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
With your love of music you must have one of those special musical gifts.
You're lucky enough to be perfectly bitched.
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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21 Jun 2006 12:04:11 AM |
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As to the question... isn't the answer pretty much the same as for humor?
Music, and humor, both set up a discordant state in our minds. The
resolution of that discordance is pleasurable. The comparison goes further
according to many. Humor is also rhythmic and the timing of humor if much
like the timing of music. A comedian botching a punch line is much like a
musician hitting a sour note.
I forgot who said it - some blues musician I believe - but it was pointed
out that you can play any two notes together, as long as you resolve them.
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| User: "" |
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20 Jun 2006 07:03:29 AM |
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FYI
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Brief interventions have been utilized effectively in alcohol treatment
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Let me know if it was helpful.
Alan Harding wrote:
In message <1150755584.159903.173320@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Pinwheel <pinwheel@volcanomail.com> writes
gravity wrote:
"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1150681286.255522.255110@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Luna wrote:
I have wondered about this for fricking HOURS. What is it about
Pachalbel or Smokin' in the Boys Room that pleases me so? Music is to
emotions what smells are to memory. I'd love to know how this works.
'and what's up with country music? can someone explain THAT??'
I could list SO many examples of music that has that certain potent
powerful all-encompassing, all-surrounding quality that effects the
very essense of one being.
I'd really like to know how all of this works. Gravity made a good
start. I wanna know more.
and good analogy there Jean.
as for country music, I don't get that at ALL ;)
i consider country music to be the lowest form of music there is. it's like
folk only missing any sense of soul or style.
It has its own soul, it has its own style. It's a matter of personal
taste. I can name at least several genres whose musical validity I
question, but I would probably wind up stepping on some toes. Point
is, it moves people. That's what any music should do. The
highbrow-lowbrow ranking is pure snobbery and I'm as guilty as anyone
of using it.
I seem to be able to listen to 'the best of' most types of music, though
freeform jazz passes me by, and gamelin music is beyond my current
comprehension. Maybe musicianship transcends musical genre.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "aaron from suburbia" |
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19 Jun 2006 02:05:59 PM |
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gravity wrote:
"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1150681286.255522.255110@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Luna wrote:
I have wondered about this for fricking HOURS. What is it about
Pachalbel or Smokin' in the Boys Room that pleases me so? Music is to
emotions what smells are to memory. I'd love to know how this works.
Jean
'and what's up with country music? can someone explain THAT??'
I could list SO many examples of music that has that certain potent
powerful all-encompassing, all-surrounding quality that effects the
very essense of one being.
I'd really like to know how all of this works. Gravity made a good
start. I wanna know more.
and good analogy there Jean.
as for country music, I don't get that at ALL ;)
i consider country music to be the lowest form of music there is. it's like
folk only missing any sense of soul or style.
Gravity
heh, i'm glad you said so, because i totally freaking hate country
music of any kind.
I hate folk music too. i was raised on top 40 music in the 80s, from
there, i discovered the styles of music i really liked the most.
i can listen to most music other than country and rap.
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| User: "" |
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19 Jun 2006 02:13:13 PM |
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aaron from suburbia wrote:
gravity wrote:
"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1150681286.255522.255110@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Luna wrote:
I have wondered about this for fricking HOURS. What is it about
Pachalbel or Smokin' in the Boys Room that pleases me so? Music is to
emotions what smells are to memory. I'd love to know how this works.
Jean
'and what's up with country music? can someone explain THAT??'
I could list SO many examples of music that has that certain potent
powerful all-encompassing, all-surrounding quality that effects the
very essense of one being.
I'd really like to know how all of this works. Gravity made a good
start. I wanna know more.
and good analogy there Jean.
as for country music, I don't get that at ALL ;)
i consider country music to be the lowest form of music there is. it's like
folk only missing any sense of soul or style.
Gravity
heh, i'm glad you said so, because i totally freaking hate country
music of any kind.
I hate folk music too. i was raised on top 40 music in the 80s, from
there, i discovered the styles of music i really liked the most.
i can listen to most music other than country and rap.
I don't really like country music or rap music either, but there
are some exceptions... there are some good songs, in my view, that
might not be "country", but are country related... such as songs by
Kris Kristofferson, Johnny Cash and the Eagles...
-"jordie"
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| User: "aaron from suburbia" |
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19 Jun 2006 02:17:26 PM |
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wrote:
aaron from suburbia wrote:
gravity wrote:
"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1150681286.255522.255110@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Luna wrote:
I have wondered about this for fricking HOURS. What is it about
Pachalbel or Smokin' in the Boys Room that pleases me so? Music is to
emotions what smells are to memory. I'd love to know how this works.
Jean
'and what's up with country music? can someone explain THAT??'
I could list SO many examples of music that has that certain potent
powerful all-encompassing, all-surrounding quality that effects the
very essense of one being.
I'd really like to know how all of this works. Gravity made a good
start. I wanna know more.
and good analogy there Jean.
as for country music, I don't get that at ALL ;)
i consider country music to be the lowest form of music there is. it's like
folk only missing any sense of soul or style.
Gravity
heh, i'm glad you said so, because i totally freaking hate country
music of any kind.
I hate folk music too. i was raised on top 40 music in the 80s, from
there, i discovered the styles of music i really liked the most.
i can listen to most music other than country and rap.
I don't really like country music or rap music either, but there
are some exceptions... there are some good songs, in my view, that
might not be "country", but are country related... such as songs by
Kris Kristofferson, Johnny Cash and the Eagles...
-"jordie"
you're right there are exceptions. a few songs by Shania Twain,
SheDaisy, and,
Johnny Cash. though I haven't bothered to buy any of their music or
even download it :)
p.s. I didn't realize the Eagles were country, thought they were more
70s rock ?
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| User: "" |
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19 Jun 2006 02:20:01 PM |
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aaron from suburbia wrote:
I...@hotmail.com wrote:
aaron from suburbia wrote:
gravity wrote:
"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1150681286.255522.255110@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Luna wrote:
I have wondered about this for fricking HOURS. What is it about
Pachalbel or Smokin' in the Boys Room that pleases me so? Music is to
emotions what smells are to memory. I'd love to know how this works.
Jean
'and what's up with country music? can someone explain THAT??'
I could list SO many examples of music that has that certain potent
powerful all-encompassing, all-surrounding quality that effects the
very essense of one being.
I'd really like to know how all of this works. Gravity made a good
start. I wanna know more.
and good analogy there Jean.
as for country music, I don't get that at ALL ;)
i consider country music to be the lowest form of music there is. it's like
folk only missing any sense of soul or style.
Gravity
heh, i'm glad you said so, because i totally freaking hate country
music of any kind.
I hate folk music too. i was raised on top 40 music in the 80s, from
there, i discovered the styles of music i really liked the most.
i can listen to most music other than country and rap.
I don't really like country music or rap music either, but there
are some exceptions... there are some good songs, in my view, that
might not be "country", but are country related... such as songs by
Kris Kristofferson, Johnny Cash and the Eagles...
-"jordie"
you're right there are exceptions. a few songs by Shania Twain,
SheDaisy, and,
Johnny Cash. though I haven't bothered to buy any of their music or
even download it :)
p.s. I didn't realize the Eagles were country, thought they were more
70s rock ?
well, I think they are considered "country rock", by some people
anyway...
-"jordie"
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| User: "%" |
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18 Jun 2006 08:50:44 PM |
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"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1150681286.255522.255110@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Luna wrote:
I have wondered about this for fricking HOURS. What is it about
Pachalbel or Smokin' in the Boys Room that pleases me so? Music is to
emotions what smells are to memory. I'd love to know how this works.
Jean
'and what's up with country music? can someone explain THAT??'
I could list SO many examples of music that has that certain potent
powerful all-encompassing, all-surrounding quality that effects the
very essense of one being.
I'd really like to know how all of this works. Gravity made a good
start. I wanna know more.
and good analogy there Jean.
as for country music, I don't get that at ALL ;)
notes , its just , notes , you add the emotion
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| User: "aaron from suburbia" |
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18 Jun 2006 09:43:31 PM |
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% wrote:
"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1150681286.255522.255110@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Luna wrote:
I have wondered about this for fricking HOURS. What is it about
Pachalbel or Smokin' in the Boys Room that pleases me so? Music is to
emotions what smells are to memory. I'd love to know how this works.
Jean
'and what's up with country music? can someone explain THAT??'
I could list SO many examples of music that has that certain potent
powerful all-encompassing, all-surrounding quality that effects the
very essense of one being.
I'd really like to know how all of this works. Gravity made a good
start. I wanna know more.
and good analogy there Jean.
as for country music, I don't get that at ALL ;)
notes , its just , notes , you add the emotion
one could argue that, I suppose.
but what about all the emotion that was already put into a song? the
song writing, the reason for writing the song. the design of the
melody, tune, hormony, etc, and the singing/vocals? there's a ton of
emotion put into many songs before you even get to hear it. that
emotion can sometimes then be transfered to you. and/or. yeah, you can
add your own emotion too.
oh yeah, almost forgot, hi yo.
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| User: "Pinwheel" |
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18 Jun 2006 09:55:30 PM |
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aaron from suburbia wrote:
Luna wrote:
I have wondered about this for fricking HOURS. What is it about
Pachalbel or Smokin' in the Boys Room that pleases me so? Music is to
emotions what smells are to memory. I'd love to know how this works.
Jean
'and what's up with country music? can someone explain THAT??'
I could list SO many examples of music that has that certain potent
powerful all-encompassing, all-surrounding quality that effects the
very essense of one being.
I'd really like to know how all of this works. Gravity made a good
start. I wanna know more.
and good analogy there Jean.
as for country music, I don't get that at ALL ;)
I think there is an association with naturally occuring sounds that is
at work. Something particular to each person. I don't know how many
times I woke up with a measure or two of a really good tune in my head
and by the time I write it down, it's gone. I can't really explain it
either. It's a universally discursive medium. You don't have to know
the spoken language or culture to "get" it.
As for country music, I can only say this: It's fairly simple. Like
most old folk music, only three chords and a good refrain are
necessary, which is how I write a lot of my stuff these days. I don't
care too much for what happened to country music after the 1960's, but
I like the older, folkier stuff a bit. Apalaichan folk, gospel and
bluegrass I think ring more true to country's roots. As with any other
music, it's relative to where you're coming from.
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| User: "aaron from suburbia" |
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18 Jun 2006 10:50:15 PM |
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this song has me hooked
Crossfade "Cold"
looking back at me i see that i never really got it right
i never stopped to think of you
i'm always wrapped up in things i cannot win
you are the antidote that gets me by
something strong like a drug that gets me high
what i really meant to say
is i'm sorry for the way i am
i never meant to be so cold
i never meant to be so cold
what i really meant to say
is i'm sorry for the way i am
i never meant to be so cold
i never meant to be so cold
to you i'm sorry about all the lies
maybe in a different light
you could see me stand on my own again
cause now i can't see
you are the antidote that got me by
something strong like a drug that got me high
what i really meant to say
is i'm sorry for the way i am
i never meant to be so cold
i never meant to be so cold
what i really meant to say
is i'm sorry for the way i am
i never meant to be so cold
i never meant to be so cold
i never meant to be so cold
i never really wanted you to see
the screwed up side of me that i keep
locked inside of me so deep
it always seems to get to me
i never really wanted you to go
so many things that you shouldn't have known
i guess for me there's just no hope
i never meant to be so cold
what i really meant to say
is i'm sorry for the way i am
i never meant to be so cold
i never meant to be so cold
what i really meant to say
is i'm sorry for the way i am
i never meant to be so cold
i never meant to be so cold
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| User: "%" |
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18 Jun 2006 10:52:08 PM |
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hi
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