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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "Rhiannon"
Date: 24 May 2006 02:54:46 PM
Object: The baby cage SPOILER
As I walked passed the baby cage today, an adorable not quite two year old,
in a pink coat and matching hat glanced up from the doll carriage she was
playing with and looked up at me. The baby cage is actually the outdoor
play section of the daycare on the first floor of the apartment building I
live in, where the toddlers are kept separate from the bigger children so as
not to risk injury. For their own safety it is completely surrounded by an
eight foot high chain link fence and a locked gate to keep them in and
strangers out. It reminds me of the zoo. The excited voices of children
who have had too much sugar squealing..."Can we see the monkey cage?" "Can
we see the tiger cage?" Only, every day I walk past the baby cage. I
understand why it's necessary. It bothers me anyway. I usually smile and
wave and pretend like it doesn't, but I always end up with that weird
feeling in the pit of my stomach.
Today, little pink baby, golden curls hanging down from under her hat, blue
eyes staring up at me, opened her mouth wide and grinned at me. So I
grinned back and as I raised my hand to wave at her she said, suddenly very
excited..."Momma?" I maintained my smile, the two daycare works burst into
loud laughter, yet all my mind could process was the fact that little pink
baby wasn't sure who her mother was. So, maybe I look like her mother, and
maybe in a baby brain memory isn't quite the same as it is in an adult
brain, and maybe they get really confused over the things we take for
granted, but the idea that she thought Momma had come for her, all smiles
and excitement, only to discover that I was just some stranger passing by
was more than I could bear. I got to the other side of the baby cage
where none one could see me and burst into tears.
I don't know why it hit me the way it did. I don't know why I felt an
actual pain inside me at that moment and crumbled under the weight of it. I
don't know why it's still bothering me. I don't know why I should care
about someone else's pink baby in a baby cage. Yet I can't seem to shake
this feeling that the world is a horrible place, and it sucks, and I loathe
it, and I don't want any part of a society that puts its most precious gifts
in a cage because they have no other choice. I think mostly I just don't
want to be here anymore.
--
Rhi
.

User: "cal"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 24 May 2006 07:21:51 PM
"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:v_1dg.1504$ho5.114686@news20.bellglobal.com...

I don't know why it hit me the way it did. I don't know why I felt an
actual pain inside me at that moment and crumbled under the weight of it.
I don't know why it's still bothering me. I don't know why I should care
about someone else's pink baby in a baby cage. Yet I can't seem to shake
this feeling that the world is a horrible place, and it sucks, and I
loathe it, and I don't want any part of a society that puts its most
precious gifts in a cage because they have no other choice. I think
mostly I just don't want to be here anymore.

some of us, sometimes, suffer from not having skin.
we merge with the environment and it hurts us.
the little kid will be ok. but you, please take care of yourself.
"i took a deep breath and listened to the old brag of my heart:
i am, i am, i am."
-- sylvia plath, "the bell jar"


.

User: "Luna"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 24 May 2006 06:23:07 PM
I'm top posting because I didn't really want to touch the text -
whatever the case, world being ***** or not - I mean, there are many
moments, infinite almost, where you can pick out tragedy or ecstasy on
any given day, (life is a buffet my friend - jazz hands!).
This was very evocative though, good job.
Jean
Rhiannon wrote:

As I walked passed the baby cage today, an adorable not quite two year old,
in a pink coat and matching hat glanced up from the doll carriage she was
playing with and looked up at me. The baby cage is actually the outdoor
play section of the daycare on the first floor of the apartment building I
live in, where the toddlers are kept separate from the bigger children so as
not to risk injury. For their own safety it is completely surrounded by an
eight foot high chain link fence and a locked gate to keep them in and
strangers out. It reminds me of the zoo. The excited voices of children
who have had too much sugar squealing..."Can we see the monkey cage?" "Can
we see the tiger cage?" Only, every day I walk past the baby cage. I
understand why it's necessary. It bothers me anyway. I usually smile and
wave and pretend like it doesn't, but I always end up with that weird
feeling in the pit of my stomach.

Today, little pink baby, golden curls hanging down from under her hat, blue
eyes staring up at me, opened her mouth wide and grinned at me. So I
grinned back and as I raised my hand to wave at her she said, suddenly very
excited..."Momma?" I maintained my smile, the two daycare works burst into
loud laughter, yet all my mind could process was the fact that little pink
baby wasn't sure who her mother was. So, maybe I look like her mother, and
maybe in a baby brain memory isn't quite the same as it is in an adult
brain, and maybe they get really confused over the things we take for
granted, but the idea that she thought Momma had come for her, all smiles
and excitement, only to discover that I was just some stranger passing by
was more than I could bear. I got to the other side of the baby cage
where none one could see me and burst into tears.

I don't know why it hit me the way it did. I don't know why I felt an
actual pain inside me at that moment and crumbled under the weight of it. I
don't know why it's still bothering me. I don't know why I should care
about someone else's pink baby in a baby cage. Yet I can't seem to shake
this feeling that the world is a horrible place, and it sucks, and I loathe
it, and I don't want any part of a society that puts its most precious gifts
in a cage because they have no other choice. I think mostly I just don't
want to be here anymore.

--
Rhi

.

User: "Whiskers"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 24 May 2006 03:00:36 PM
On 2006-05-24, Rhiannon <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote:
snip

I don't know why it hit me the way it did. I don't know why I felt an
actual pain inside me at that moment and crumbled under the weight of it. I
don't know why it's still bothering me. I don't know why I should care
about someone else's pink baby in a baby cage. Yet I can't seem to shake
this feeling that the world is a horrible place, and it sucks, and I loathe
it, and I don't want any part of a society that puts its most precious gifts
in a cage because they have no other choice. I think mostly I just don't
want to be here anymore.

Beautifuly written.
There has been some progress; my school playground had iron railings all
round with sharp spikes on top.
What I think is sad about your 'baby cage' is that it shows that many
parents of toddlers can't or won't spend all day where they should be -
with their toddlers. There is something wrong with a culture or a society
that encourages that, I think.
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
.
User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 24 May 2006 05:07:51 PM
In message <4kqek3-7oh.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-24, Rhiannon <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote:

snip

I don't know why it hit me the way it did. I don't know why I felt an
actual pain inside me at that moment and crumbled under the weight of it. I
don't know why it's still bothering me. I don't know why I should care
about someone else's pink baby in a baby cage. Yet I can't seem to shake
this feeling that the world is a horrible place, and it sucks, and I loathe
it, and I don't want any part of a society that puts its most precious gifts
in a cage because they have no other choice. I think mostly I just don't
want to be here anymore.


Beautifuly written.

There has been some progress; my school playground had iron railings all
round with sharp spikes on top.

Since we've moved here, the school over the road has had its fencing
replaced by iron railing with sharp spikes on top.

What I think is sad about your 'baby cage' is that it shows that many
parents of toddlers can't or won't spend all day where they should be -
with their toddlers. There is something wrong with a culture or a society
that encourages that, I think.

So, you think Lucia shouldn't be working, then?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
User: "Whiskers"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 24 May 2006 05:41:29 PM
On 2006-05-24, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <4kqek3-7oh.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-24, Rhiannon <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote:

snip

I don't know why it hit me the way it did. I don't know why I felt an
actual pain inside me at that moment and crumbled under the weight of it. I
don't know why it's still bothering me. I don't know why I should care
about someone else's pink baby in a baby cage. Yet I can't seem to shake
this feeling that the world is a horrible place, and it sucks, and I loathe
it, and I don't want any part of a society that puts its most precious gifts
in a cage because they have no other choice. I think mostly I just don't
want to be here anymore.


Beautifuly written.

There has been some progress; my school playground had iron railings all
round with sharp spikes on top.

Since we've moved here, the school over the road has had its fencing
replaced by iron railing with sharp spikes on top.

Well, that's the North ... they do things differently there. <G>

What I think is sad about your 'baby cage' is that it shows that many
parents of toddlers can't or won't spend all day where they should be -
with their toddlers. There is something wrong with a culture or a society
that encourages that, I think.

So, you think Lucia shouldn't be working, then?

Who looks after her child when Lucia is working? In any case, Lucia is
hardly typical - and in Italy they do still know how to respect and enjoy
children, don't they?
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
.
User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 25 May 2006 04:04:09 PM
In message <p14fk3-5m.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-24, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <4kqek3-7oh.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-24, Rhiannon <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote:

snip

I don't know why it hit me the way it did. I don't know why I felt an
actual pain inside me at that moment and crumbled under the weight
of it. I
don't know why it's still bothering me. I don't know why I should care
about someone else's pink baby in a baby cage. Yet I can't seem to shake
this feeling that the world is a horrible place, and it sucks, and I loathe
it, and I don't want any part of a society that puts its most
precious gifts
in a cage because they have no other choice. I think mostly I just don't
want to be here anymore.


Beautifuly written.

There has been some progress; my school playground had iron railings all
round with sharp spikes on top.

Since we've moved here, the school over the road has had its fencing
replaced by iron railing with sharp spikes on top.


Well, that's the North ... they do things differently there. <G>

You certainly do see more flat-caps up here than down your way.

What I think is sad about your 'baby cage' is that it shows that many
parents of toddlers can't or won't spend all day where they should be -
with their toddlers. There is something wrong with a culture or a society
that encourages that, I think.

So, you think Lucia shouldn't be working, then?


Who looks after her child when Lucia is working? In any case, Lucia is
hardly typical - and in Italy they do still know how to respect and enjoy
children, don't they?

Pop over to asd.writing and you're questions will (mostly) be answered.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
User: "Whiskers"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 26 May 2006 08:55:54 AM
On 2006-05-25, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <p14fk3-5m.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

snip

So, you think Lucia shouldn't be working, then?


Who looks after her child when Lucia is working? In any case, Lucia is
hardly typical - and in Italy they do still know how to respect and enjoy
children, don't they?

Pop over to asd.writing and you're questions will (mostly) be answered.

I was afraid you'd say that.
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
.
User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 26 May 2006 01:36:09 PM
In message <a0ejk3-sph.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-25, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <p14fk3-5m.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes


snip

So, you think Lucia shouldn't be working, then?


Who looks after her child when Lucia is working? In any case, Lucia is
hardly typical - and in Italy they do still know how to respect and enjoy
children, don't they?

Pop over to asd.writing and you're questions will (mostly) be answered.


I was afraid you'd say that.

I especially wrote and posted a piece with (some of ) the children's
background. What did you expect me to say? You're also three stories
behind.
I sense that you are about to make your apologies and leave. ;)
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
User: "Whiskers"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 27 May 2006 07:02:39 AM
On 2006-05-26, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <a0ejk3-sph.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-25, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <p14fk3-5m.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes


snip

So, you think Lucia shouldn't be working, then?


Who looks after her child when Lucia is working? In any case, Lucia is
hardly typical - and in Italy they do still know how to respect and enjoy
children, don't they?

Pop over to asd.writing and you're questions will (mostly) be answered.


I was afraid you'd say that.


I especially wrote and posted a piece with (some of ) the children's
background. What did you expect me to say? You're also three stories
behind.

I sense that you are about to make your apologies and leave. ;)

Leaving is too much effort.
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
.
User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 27 May 2006 08:59:35 AM
In message <vnrlk3-j7e.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-26, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <a0ejk3-sph.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-25, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <p14fk3-5m.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes


snip

So, you think Lucia shouldn't be working, then?


Who looks after her child when Lucia is working? In any case, Lucia is
hardly typical - and in Italy they do still know how to respect and enjoy
children, don't they?

Pop over to asd.writing and you're questions will (mostly) be answered.


I was afraid you'd say that.


I especially wrote and posted a piece with (some of ) the children's
background. What did you expect me to say? You're also three stories
behind.

I sense that you are about to make your apologies and leave. ;)


Leaving is too much effort.

I take it you don't work for the News of the World.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
User: "Whiskers"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 27 May 2006 10:00:50 AM
On 2006-05-27, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <vnrlk3-j7e.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-26, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <a0ejk3-sph.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-25, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <p14fk3-5m.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes


snip

So, you think Lucia shouldn't be working, then?


Who looks after her child when Lucia is working? In any case, Lucia is
hardly typical - and in Italy they do still know how to respect and enjoy
children, don't they?

Pop over to asd.writing and you're questions will (mostly) be answered.


I was afraid you'd say that.


I especially wrote and posted a piece with (some of ) the children's
background. What did you expect me to say? You're also three stories
behind.

I sense that you are about to make your apologies and leave. ;)


Leaving is too much effort.


I take it you don't work for the News of the World.

Does anyone?
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
.
User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 27 May 2006 01:00:27 PM
In message <266mk3-3uk.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-27, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <vnrlk3-j7e.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-26, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <a0ejk3-sph.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-25, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <p14fk3-5m.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes


snip

So, you think Lucia shouldn't be working, then?


Who looks after her child when Lucia is working? In any case, Lucia is
hardly typical - and in Italy they do still know how to respect and enjoy
children, don't they?

Pop over to asd.writing and you're questions will (mostly) be answered.


I was afraid you'd say that.


I especially wrote and posted a piece with (some of ) the children's
background. What did you expect me to say? You're also three stories
behind.

I sense that you are about to make your apologies and leave. ;)


Leaving is too much effort.


I take it you don't work for the News of the World.


Does anyone?

They have informants, or is that the People? People who find people
doing peopley things they can blame for behaving like people. Smug gits.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
User: "Whiskers"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 27 May 2006 02:40:10 PM
On 2006-05-27, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <266mk3-3uk.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-27, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <vnrlk3-j7e.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-26, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <a0ejk3-sph.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-25, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <p14fk3-5m.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes


snip

So, you think Lucia shouldn't be working, then?


Who looks after her child when Lucia is working? In any case, Lucia is
hardly typical - and in Italy they do still know how to respect and enjoy
children, don't they?

Pop over to asd.writing and you're questions will (mostly) be answered.


I was afraid you'd say that.


I especially wrote and posted a piece with (some of ) the children's
background. What did you expect me to say? You're also three stories
behind.

I sense that you are about to make your apologies and leave. ;)


Leaving is too much effort.


I take it you don't work for the News of the World.


Does anyone?


They have informants, or is that the People? People who find people
doing peopley things they can blame for behaving like people. Smug gits.

I don't think I've ever read a copy. Honest!
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
.
User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 27 May 2006 05:08:48 PM
In message <qhmmk3-232.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-27, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <266mk3-3uk.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-27, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <vnrlk3-j7e.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-26, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <a0ejk3-sph.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-25, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <p14fk3-5m.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes


snip

So, you think Lucia shouldn't be working, then?


Who looks after her child when Lucia is working? In any case, Lucia is
hardly typical - and in Italy they do still know how to respect
and enjoy
children, don't they?

Pop over to asd.writing and you're questions will (mostly) be answered.


I was afraid you'd say that.


I especially wrote and posted a piece with (some of ) the children's
background. What did you expect me to say? You're also three stories
behind.

I sense that you are about to make your apologies and leave. ;)


Leaving is too much effort.


I take it you don't work for the News of the World.


Does anyone?


They have informants, or is that the People? People who find people
doing peopley things they can blame for behaving like people. Smug gits.


I don't think I've ever read a copy. Honest!

Not even when you were young and it was the smuttiest stuff you were
allowed to get your hands on? Don't tell me your parents read the Sunday
Times.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
User: "Whiskers"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 27 May 2006 07:29:50 PM
On 2006-05-27, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <qhmmk3-232.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-27, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <266mk3-3uk.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-27, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <vnrlk3-j7e.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-26, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <a0ejk3-sph.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes

On 2006-05-25, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <p14fk3-5m.ln1@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers
<catwheezel@operamail.com> writes


snip

So, you think Lucia shouldn't be working, then?


Who looks after her child when Lucia is working? In any case, Lucia is
hardly typical - and in Italy they do still know how to respect
and enjoy
children, don't they?

Pop over to asd.writing and you're questions will (mostly) be answered.


I was afraid you'd say that.


I especially wrote and posted a piece with (some of ) the children's
background. What did you expect me to say? You're also three stories
behind.

I sense that you are about to make your apologies and leave. ;)


Leaving is too much effort.


I take it you don't work for the News of the World.


Does anyone?


They have informants, or is that the People? People who find people
doing peopley things they can blame for behaving like people. Smug gits.


I don't think I've ever read a copy. Honest!


Not even when you were young and it was the smuttiest stuff you were
allowed to get your hands on? Don't tell me your parents read the Sunday
Times.

The Observer. We collected it on the way home from morning service at the
Wesleyan chapel. (Apparently newspapers were exempt from the utter
heathen depravity associated with buying anything else on a Sunday).
The school library had Paris Match, and National Geographic (both going
back to the 1930s). Of course, it had Izvestia and Pravda too.
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
-- Whiskers
-- ~~~~~~~~~~
.













User: "Contrarian"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 25 May 2006 08:41:21 PM
Rhiannon <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote:

about someone else's pink baby in a baby cage. Yet I can't seem to shake
this feeling that the world is a horrible place, and it sucks, and I loathe
it, and I don't want any part of a society that puts its most precious gifts
in a cage because they have no other choice. I think mostly I just don't
want to be here anymore.

Can you think of it this way ? "I don't want to be
in this world as it is? And hope for improvement?
Works for me ... sometimes.
.
User: "eoygeo"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 26 May 2006 12:08:18 PM
My mother speak of me convince herself that I am one of those in the
family whom she never had to layed her eye on since I was a child had
no complainning of anything about and (her). She never at home as far
as I remember because she had a work to do. Once or twice she may had
prepared a dinner, that I don`t remember. I know each family has a
different relationships with a mother and her child, my mother changes
her personality with each of her children a youngest to a oldest. The
thing never change is that she treats me like I am her three years old
make me feel like younger than her great grand children.
I am her belongings unsolved toddlar inside give me a complex.
She make herself sounds guilty over not giving me any emotional support
in the past.
.
User: "Rhiannon"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER - Thank you all 29 May 2006 05:05:20 AM
I am only getting back to this now because I was too upset to bear reading
my own post. Thank you all for your responses. You shared your wisdom and
your insight, both of which helped me put things back in perspective and
kept me grounded. You guys are the greatest people I know. Thank you all
so much.
--
Rhi
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User: "lisa in mass."

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 24 May 2006 04:20:38 PM
Rhiannon wrote...

I don't know why it hit me the way it did. I don't know
why I felt an actual pain inside me at that moment and
crumbled under the weight of it. I don't know why it's
still bothering me. I don't know why I should care about
someone else's pink baby in a baby cage. Yet I can't seem
to shake this feeling that the world is a horrible place,
and it sucks, and I loathe it, and I don't want any part of
a society that puts its most precious gifts in a cage
because they have no other choice. I think mostly I just
don't want to be here anymore.

i'd have cried, too. just the existence of a baby cage is
abhorrent. it smacks of people being unable to watch children
closely enough that they need to stick the babies someplace
else, away on their own. and while it was probably due simply to
the child's very limited vocabulary, it would feel to me as
though she were looking for a rescuer from the cage, and it
couldn't be me.
((((rhiannon))))
-lisa
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User: "Bacon"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 24 May 2006 02:39:01 PM
Rhiannon wrote:

So, maybe I look like her mother, and
maybe in a baby brain memory isn't quite the same as it is in an adult
brain, and maybe they get really confused over the things we take for
granted, but the idea that she thought Momma had come for her, all smiles
and excitement, only to discover that I was just some stranger passing by
was more than I could bear.

It was appropriate to cry. Think of the chaos you'd cause trying to
take a lion cub away from its mother and compare that to the 5 days a
week in child-care confinement our young are forced to endure...not to
blame mothers, they have little choice. The daycare workers laughing
is a powerful, evil image. It's good to notice things like that,
painful as it might be.
.
User: "yuluwirri"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 24 May 2006 03:58:10 PM
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On 24 May 2006 12:39:01 -0700, "Bacon" <rbkfour@yahoo.com> wrote:


Rhiannon wrote:

So, maybe I look like her mother, and
maybe in a baby brain memory isn't quite the same as it is in an adult
brain, and maybe they get really confused over the things we take for
granted, but the idea that she thought Momma had come for her, all smiles
and excitement, only to discover that I was just some stranger passing by
was more than I could bear.


It was appropriate to cry. Think of the chaos you'd cause trying to
take a lion cub away from its mother and compare that to the 5 days a
week in child-care confinement our young are forced to endure...not to
blame mothers, they have little choice. The daycare workers laughing
is a powerful, evil image. It's good to notice things like that,
painful as it might be.

This is very powerful. I feel deeply affected also Rhi. You were right
to cry. :(
--
yuluwirri
~~~~~~~
Fish know.
~~~~~~~
yuluwirri@hotmail.com
.


User: "aaron from suburbia"

Title: Re: The baby cage SPOILER 24 May 2006 06:55:25 PM
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Rhi wrote:
"Yet I can't seem to shake this feeling that the world is a horrible
place, and it sucks, and I loathe it, and I don't want any part of a
society that puts its most precious gifts in a cage because they have
no other choice. I think mostly I just don't want to be here anymore."
I identify with that a lot, Rhi. I mean, in general - I can't
specifically relate to the baby cage, but that is a good example. I
remember things I saw happen to other kids in elementary school, and it
makes me cry when I think of these things. as well as things happening
in the present. be it to others, or in my own family.
I too do NOT want any part of a society that is so overwelmingly and
devastatingly cruel (this is an incredible understatement) to the
most innocent among us. a major reason why I think: "I don't wanna be
here anymore, i quit this existance". And no, I just cannot be
"tough" and "tough it out", I am not built like that. I too crumble
under the weight of it all.
I survive by blocking it out as best as possible with whatever
resources I have or can think of during those times, those moments. or
try to do something good for someone else, to somehow believe I did
something to help, to "counter" the bad things done by other people.
if that makes any sense? I dunno.
exellent post Rhi. try to combat the bad feelings with something
good, the opposite of what you experienced. that's all i can say.
.


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