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"Catbert" |
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10 Dec 2003 08:07:51 AM |
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The bird decision |
Looking at this issue rationally, I think I will not get a bird or other pet
animal. Although
+ it would be a nice friend and make me feel less lonely,
- it would require lots of time, energy, and money to keep, and
- it would not increase my exposure to human potential friends, so
- it might even increase my isolation.
Catbert
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| User: "Flashfire" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
10 Dec 2003 03:48:54 PM |
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Catbert wrote:
Looking at this issue rationally, I think I will not get a bird or
other pet animal. Although
+ it would be a nice friend and make me feel less lonely,
- it would require lots of time, energy, and money to keep, and
- it would not increase my exposure to human potential friends, so
- it might even increase my isolation.
Catbert
Buy a vulture its your kinda bird.
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Regards Lee
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No one is compelled to serve great causes,
unless he feels fit for it.
Sir Winston Churchill
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| User: "SortaLily" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
10 Dec 2003 05:50:29 PM |
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heheh maybe it will poke his eyes out while he sleeps.
"Flashfire" <flashfire@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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Catbert wrote:
Looking at this issue rationally, I think I will not get a bird or
other pet animal. Although
+ it would be a nice friend and make me feel less lonely,
- it would require lots of time, energy, and money to keep, and
- it would not increase my exposure to human potential friends, so
- it might even increase my isolation.
Catbert
Buy a vulture its your kinda bird.
--
Regards Lee
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No one is compelled to serve great causes,
unless he feels fit for it.
Sir Winston Churchill
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
10 Dec 2003 02:34:13 PM |
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In message <XMFBb.8922$rP6.6210@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Catbert <catbert@cube.net> writes
Looking at this issue rationally, I think I will not get a bird or other pet
animal. Although
+ it would be a nice friend and make me feel less lonely,
- it would require lots of time, energy, and money to keep, and
- it would not increase my exposure to human potential friends, so
- it might even increase my isolation.
Rational decisions are only as good as the assumptions you make.
Depression is full of mind tricks. You have to try to judge what is the
depression talking ('don't do this, you might enjoy it'), what could be
rationalisations of that ('it would not increase my exposure to human
friends' - it wouldn't reduce them, either) and what may be real ('it
would be a friend and make me less lonely').
Depression whispers just below our hearing, and changes the values we
give to our thoughts. ('What makes you think you deserve to feel
better?')
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Alan@harding.demon.co.uk = Alan Harding =
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The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
10 Dec 2003 05:27:45 PM |
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:34:13 +0000, Alan Harding
<Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:
In message <XMFBb.8922$rP6.6210@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Catbert
<catbert@cube.net> writes
snip
Rational decisions are only as good as the assumptions you make.
Depression is full of mind tricks. You have to try to judge what is the
depression talking ('don't do this, you might enjoy it'), what could be
rationalisations of that ('it would not increase my exposure to human
friends' - it wouldn't reduce them, either) and what may be real ('it
would be a friend and make me less lonely').
Depression whispers just below our hearing, and changes the values we give
to our thoughts. ('What makes you think you deserve to feel better?')
True. Also, any pet gives you something to talk about, and people do like
to talk about their pets (ASD is not unique in that respect). There are
often clubs or societies for owners of your chosen species, and things can
get very 'social' with those.
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^ Interested in Citroens?
-- Whiskers <http://www.aacit.net>
-- ~~~~~~~~~~ <news:alt.autos.citroen>
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
11 Dec 2003 03:30:17 AM |
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Catbert wrote:
Looking at this issue rationally, I think I will not get a bird or other pet
animal. Although
+ it would be a nice friend and make me feel less lonely,
- it would require lots of time, energy, and money to keep, and
- it would not increase my exposure to human potential friends, so
- it might even increase my isolation.
Catbert
What about starting out by volunteering at the SPCA or some bird rescue
organization or something like that?
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| User: "Trishamolson" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
11 Dec 2003 04:55:03 AM |
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What about starting out by volunteering at the SPCA or some bird rescue
organization or something like that?
Great Idea!!
Rosena
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| User: "elegy" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
11 Dec 2003 06:43:41 AM |
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:30:17 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net>
wrote:
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Catbert wrote:
Looking at this issue rationally, I think I will not get a bird or other pet
animal. Although
+ it would be a nice friend and make me feel less lonely,
- it would require lots of time, energy, and money to keep, and
- it would not increase my exposure to human potential friends, so
- it might even increase my isolation.
Catbert
What about starting out by volunteering at the SPCA or some bird rescue
organization or something like that?
yanno, i spent some time at the humane society over the weekend, and i
really wish i had time to volunteer there on a regular basis.
unfortunately, the times they need volunteers are the times i need to
be sleeping :-/
--
body count: 5; 1 stuffed and mounted
http://shattering.org
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| User: "Catbert" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
11 Dec 2003 07:08:35 AM |
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"elegy" <elegy@shattering.org> wrote in message
news:2gpgtv0h7a7r6njhat315467l7b0pfha5r@4ax.com...
yanno, i spent some time at the humane society over the weekend, and i
really wish i had time to volunteer there on a regular basis.
unfortunately, the times they need volunteers are the times i need to
be sleeping :-/
For me, the problem is allergies. I cannot work in a place full of dogs,
cats, and other animals that I'm allergic to.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
11 Dec 2003 06:31:09 PM |
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Catbert wrote:
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"elegy" <elegy@shattering.org> wrote in message
news:2gpgtv0h7a7r6njhat315467l7b0pfha5r@4ax.com...
yanno, i spent some time at the humane society over the weekend, and i
really wish i had time to volunteer there on a regular basis.
unfortunately, the times they need volunteers are the times i need to
be sleeping :-/
For me, the problem is allergies. I cannot work in a place full of dogs,
cats, and other animals that I'm allergic to.
Maybe there's an organization out there that works specifically with
just birds and/or reptiles? Maybe even at a university or something?
Don't know, just tossing out ideas.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
11 Dec 2003 06:47:50 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:31:09 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net>
wrote:
<(((*> Catbert wrote:
<(((*> > For me, the problem is allergies. I cannot work in a place full of dogs,
<(((*> > cats, and other animals that I'm allergic to.
<(((*>
<(((*> Maybe there's an organization out there that works specifically with
<(((*> just birds and/or reptiles? Maybe even at a university or something?
<(((*> Don't know, just tossing out ideas.
There are numerous bird rescue groups throughout the US (and
Canada). There are probably reptile rescue groups too.
Google is our friend. Or Yahoo. I'm not going to do the research
for Marty. I figure that he just just wants to *talk* about it. I
bet he won't actually *do* anything.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
11 Dec 2003 07:13:40 PM |
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thehouse@pooh.corner wrote:
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 00:31:09 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net>
wrote:
<(((*> Catbert wrote:
<(((*> > For me, the problem is allergies. I cannot work in a place full of dogs,
<(((*> > cats, and other animals that I'm allergic to.
<(((*>
<(((*> Maybe there's an organization out there that works specifically with
<(((*> just birds and/or reptiles? Maybe even at a university or something?
<(((*> Don't know, just tossing out ideas.
There are numerous bird rescue groups throughout the US (and
Canada). There are probably reptile rescue groups too.
Google is our friend. Or Yahoo. I'm not going to do the research
for Marty. I figure that he just just wants to *talk* about it. I
bet he won't actually *do* anything.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
Isn't it easier that way?
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
11 Dec 2003 07:18:27 PM |
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you hate me because i live on a hill
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
11 Dec 2003 07:21:07 PM |
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% wrote:
you hate me because i live on a hill
No, it's because you won't let me live with you. I'm sick of suburbia.
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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11 Dec 2003 07:29:03 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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% wrote:
you hate me because i live on a hill
No, it's because you won't let me live with you. I'm sick of suburbia.
i've done nearly everything i can to get you to come here ,
short of making you the offer i made Joe User ,
and still you're not here , you could clean up at cleaning up here ,
and you can rent a nice three bedroom for 5 or 6 hundred a month
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
12 Dec 2003 02:44:05 AM |
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% wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:3FD91802.2040800@comcast.net...
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% wrote:
you hate me because i live on a hill
No, it's because you won't let me live with you. I'm sick of suburbia.
i've done nearly everything i can to get you to come here ,
short of making you the offer i made Joe User ,
and still you're not here , you could clean up at cleaning up here ,
and you can rent a nice three bedroom for 5 or 6 hundred a month
you know who won't let me. ;-)
Seriously, I've got to clean up my problems here first. My problems
will follow me. I've got to clean my own house, then I think about
finding the "ideal" place to live, if such a thing exists.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
12 Dec 2003 06:40:54 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:44:05 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net>
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<(((*> Seriously, I've got to clean up my problems here first. My problems
<(((*> will follow me. I've got to clean my own house, then I think about
<(((*> finding the "ideal" place to live, if such a thing exists.
Canada has universal access to medical care. That might not be
"ideal", but it sure goes a long way in that direction, if you
ask me.
You ever decide to immigrate, I promise to sponsor you & wombn.
(I think you guys would make great Canadians.)
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
13 Dec 2003 05:44:48 PM |
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:40:54 -0500,
wrote:
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:44:05 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net>
wrote:
<(((*> Seriously, I've got to clean up my problems here first. My problems
<(((*> will follow me. I've got to clean my own house, then I think about
<(((*> finding the "ideal" place to live, if such a thing exists.
Canada has universal access to medical care. That might not be
"ideal", but it sure goes a long way in that direction, if you
ask me.
I consider that to be one of the key indicators of a 'developed' country.
You ever decide to immigrate, I promise to sponsor you & wombn. (I think
you guys would make great Canadians.)
I think they'd be assets anywhere (despite their politics).
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^ Interested in Citroens?
-- Whiskers <http://www.aacit.net>
-- ~~~~~~~~~~ <news:alt.autos.citroen>
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| User: "Dogbert" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
13 Dec 2003 01:03:06 PM |
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thehouse@pooh.corner wrote:
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:44:05 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net>
wrote:
<(((*> Seriously, I've got to clean up my problems here first. My problems
<(((*> will follow me. I've got to clean my own house, then I think about
<(((*> finding the "ideal" place to live, if such a thing exists.
Canada has universal access to medical care. That might not be
"ideal", but it sure goes a long way in that direction, if you
ask me.
You ever decide to immigrate, I promise to sponsor you & wombn.
(I think you guys would make great Canadians.)
Please do sponsor them. If they emigrate to Canada, I will say: "Good
riddance!"
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
13 Dec 2003 01:36:27 PM |
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Dogbert wrote:
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thehouse@pooh.corner wrote:
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:44:05 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net>
wrote:
<(((*> Seriously, I've got to clean up my problems here first. My
problems <(((*> will follow me. I've got to clean my own house, then
I think about <(((*> finding the "ideal" place to live, if such a
thing exists.
Canada has universal access to medical care. That might not be
"ideal", but it sure goes a long way in that direction, if you
ask me.
You ever decide to immigrate, I promise to sponsor you & wombn.
(I think you guys would make great Canadians.)
Please do sponsor them. If they emigrate to Canada, I will say: "Good
riddance!"
I thought we were friends. :-(
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: The bird decision |
13 Dec 2003 01:44:23 PM |
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thehouse@pooh.corner wrote:
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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:44:05 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net>
wrote:
<(((*> Seriously, I've got to clean up my problems here first. My problems
<(((*> will follow me. I've got to clean my own house, then I think about
<(((*> finding the "ideal" place to live, if such a thing exists.
Canada has universal access to medical care. That might not be
"ideal", but it sure goes a long way in that direction, if you
ask me.
You ever decide to immigrate, I promise to sponsor you & wombn.
(I think you guys would make great Canadians.)
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
I appreciate the offer. My problem is going to follow me whereever I
go. I've got to make changes now.
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