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Mise Man wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:32:23 +0000, Alan Harding
<Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <33dcn3dgvrgvouf3kmb9li97033lo97bfi@4ax.com>, Miserable
Man <misemann@misery.net> writes

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 07:36:29 GMT, Janithor
<JanithorHAW@comcast.net> wrote:

Miserable Man wrote:

Michelle la Belle <aminotempty@hotmail.com> wrote in

Yeah, I have been aware of this danger for many years, and it
seems to be growing. I'd love to ignore this nonsense but
there seem to be far too many; the Islamic extremists are the
fringes of Islam but it's a pretty fucken big fringe. It's
scary, and apart from getting in there and de-indoctrinating
them all, I don't think there's an answer.

The answer is for the U.S. to stop supporting Israel, stop
invading Islamic countries without provocation or justification,
and become neutral in the Middle East. Then the support for
Islamic extremist actions against us would undoubtedly diminish
greatly, and we would be more secure (and richer).

I'm not a Muslim, and definitely don't support Islamic
extremism. However, don't be fooled by Janithor anti-Islamic
crusade. He is
obviously not unbiased (no Jew is unbiased in the conflict
between Jews and Arabs/Muslims).

What if I took you to a BBQ place to prove I'm not jewish? I'll
even buy some Premium Spatens for us. Serious offer. I'll make
the trip to So Cal. I can even show you the Bible I got in 3rd
grade, with my name on the inside cover.

If you have Jewish ancestry, you are a Jew, regardless of your
religion. Now what are the odds of someone named Redman not having
Jewish ancestry? Also, once you actually admitted to having Jewish
ancestors.

Redman is derived from "Roth"; one in three derivations of "Roth" is
possibly Jewish; the other two aren't. All three are Germanic or
English. Doesn't sound convincing to me.

Jews have often taken Germanic or Slavic names in their host
countries. The name "Roth" (which is of Germanic origin) has been
adopted by many Jews. Also, "Redman" is definitely not a Scandinavian
name.
---
Miserable Man

I drink the blood of goy children and chubby old Chinese guys. You're
such a fool.

In message <4776AC3E.1030101@comcast.net>, Janithor
<JanithorHAW@comcast.net> writes

Alan Harding wrote:

In message <33dcn3dgvrgvouf3kmb9li97033lo97bfi@4ax.com>, Miserable
Man <misemann@misery.net> writes

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 07:36:29 GMT, Janithor <JanithorHAW@comcast.net>
wrote:

Miserable Man wrote:

Michelle la Belle <aminotempty@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:836a9473-bb5c-4324-ad06-b0c254e7281d@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com:

Yeah, I have been aware of this danger for many years, and it
seems to
be growing. I'd love to ignore this nonsense but there seem to
be far
too many; the Islamic extremists are the fringes of Islam but it's a
pretty fucken big fringe. It's scary, and apart from getting in
there
and de-indoctrinating them all, I don't think there's an answer.

The answer is for the U.S. to stop supporting Israel, stop
invading Islamic
countries without provocation or justification, and become neutral
in the
Middle East. Then the support for Islamic extremist actions
against us
would undoubtedly diminish greatly, and we would be more secure (and
richer).

I'm not a Muslim, and definitely don't support Islamic extremism.
However,
don't be fooled by Janithor anti-Islamic crusade. He is
obviously not unbiased (no Jew is unbiased in the conflict between
Jews and
Arabs/Muslims).

What if I took you to a BBQ place to prove I'm not jewish? I'll even
buy some Premium Spatens for us. Serious offer. I'll make the
trip to
So Cal. I can even show you the Bible I got in 3rd grade, with my
name
on the inside cover.

If you have Jewish ancestry, you are a Jew, regardless of your
religion. Now what are the odds of someone named Redman not having
Jewish ancestry? Also, once you actually admitted to having Jewish
ancestors.

Redman is derived from "Roth"; one in three derivations of "Roth"
is possibly Jewish; the other two aren't. All three are Germanic or
English. Doesn't sound convincing to me.

My dad suggested it might actually be Irish once. I found this online:

http://www.houseofnames.com/coatofarms_details.asp?sId=&s=Reddmane&A=54323-224


But I guess I'm a jew, oi vey, who know? I do talk with my hands
sometimes. By the way, how do we know you're not a jew, hmmm... Mr.
Alah "Harding"?

Alah? Aren't you confusing me with Someone else?

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cal wrote:

On 12/29/07 7:22 AM, in article 47763BEC.8060800@comcast.net,
"Janithor" <JanithorHAW@comcast.net> wrote:

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Miserable Man wrote:

If you have Jewish ancestry, you are a Jew, regardless of your
religion. Now what are the odds of someone named Redman not having
Jewish ancestry? Also, once you actually admitted to having Jewish
ancestors.
---
Miserable Man

I was *JOKING* you because you think *everyone* is a jew. Have you
ever heard of a Scandinavian jew?

of course there are scandinavian jews. the question is, do they
support america's middle-east policies.

see the thing is, i'm jewish on both sides as far back as i know,
and i hate america's middle-east policies. i need america to get out
of iraq, pull out of the middle east militarily and commercially,
and withdraw support from every aspect of the zionist cause and
zionist politics. israel needs to be de-partitioned and equally
shared by israelis of jewish and palestinian origin. the zionist
oppression of the palestinian people must end. this won't happen
under the status quo, and the status quo is bolstered chiefly by the
US. without american arms and money, it would collapse.

My grandmother spoke fluent Swedish. My
dad, from whom I get my name, was raised a Lutheran.

a lot of people in the reich were astonished to discover they were
jewish. folks who'd been catholics and protestants for generations
and genuinely had no idea. but discover it they did.

You thought my friend Fisch was a jew, even after Thomas, who is a
real German, told you it's a common name in Germany.

it's as common as fisher is in the anglo world. the benighted
peedster gets his "jewdar" in an uproar whenever he hears a germanic
or germanic-origin name and is mad at the owner. that doesn't mean
there aren't jewish people called fisch and fisher, but there are at
least as many with those names who aren't jewish.

imagine how frustrated the SS thugs would be in today's america, to
yank down guys' pants to determine their religion, only to find most
of us are circumcised regardless. what's the world coming to.
"reduced risk of HIV infection" ...please. oh sodom. oh gomorrah.

He was a very blond,
very pale skinned German and a very devout fundamentalist Christian.

the interesting thing about american fundie christians is that
they're among the strongest supporters of zionism. this isn't
because they're all secretly jewish (they aren't), but because of
the affinity that the faith-based ultra-nationalist element of one
religion feels for the faith-based ultra-nationalist element of
another.

We are from West Michigan - not quite the same as NYC, it's a very
different world. There were 240 people in my graduating class, and
ONE guy was jewish.

as far as you knew, you mean.

I voted for George Bush twice.

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cal wrote:

On 12/29/07 7:22 AM, in article 47763BEC.8060800@comcast.net, "Janithor"
<JanithorHAW@comcast.net> wrote:

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Miserable Man wrote:

If you have Jewish ancestry, you are a Jew, regardless of your
religion. Now what are the odds of someone named Redman not having
Jewish ancestry? Also, once you actually admitted to having Jewish
ancestors.
---
Miserable Man

I was *JOKING* you because you think *everyone* is a jew. Have you ever
heard of a Scandinavian jew?

of course there are scandinavian jews. the question is, do they support
america's middle-east policies.

see the thing is, i'm jewish on both sides as far back as i know, and i hate
america's middle-east policies. i need america to get out of iraq, pull out
of the middle east militarily and commercially, and withdraw support from
every aspect of the zionist cause and zionist politics. israel needs to be
de-partitioned and equally shared by israelis of jewish and palestinian
origin. the zionist oppression of the palestinian people must end. this
won't happen under the status quo, and the status quo is bolstered chiefly
by the US. without american arms and money, it would collapse.

My grandmother spoke fluent Swedish. My
dad, from whom I get my name, was raised a Lutheran.

a lot of people in the reich were astonished to discover they were jewish.
folks who'd been catholics and protestants for generations and genuinely had
no idea. but discover it they did.

You thought my friend Fisch was a jew, even after Thomas, who is a real
German, told you it's a common name in Germany.

it's as common as fisher is in the anglo world. the benighted peedster gets
his "jewdar" in an uproar whenever he hears a germanic or germanic-origin
name and is mad at the owner. that doesn't mean there aren't jewish people
called fisch and fisher, but there are at least as many with those names who
aren't jewish.

imagine how frustrated the SS thugs would be in today's america, to yank
down guys' pants to determine their religion, only to find most of us are
circumcised regardless. what's the world coming to. "reduced risk of HIV
infection" ...please. oh sodom. oh gomorrah.

He was a very blond,
very pale skinned German and a very devout fundamentalist Christian.

the interesting thing about american fundie christians is that they're among
the strongest supporters of zionism. this isn't because they're all secretly
jewish (they aren't), but because of the affinity that the faith-based
ultra-nationalist element of one religion feels for the faith-based
ultra-nationalist element of another.

We are from West Michigan - not quite the same as NYC, it's a very
different world. There were 240 people in my graduating class, and ONE
guy was jewish.

as far as you knew, you mean.

I voted for George Bush twice.

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Miserable Man wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:22:04 -0800, Janithor <JanithorHAW@comcast.net>
wrote:

I was *JOKING* you because you think *everyone* is a jew. Have you ever
heard of a Scandinavian jew? My grandmother spoke fluent Swedish. My
dad, from whom I get my name, was raised a Lutheran.

There *are* of course Scandinavian Jews. You actually wrote that you
had such ancestors. Most of the Scandinavian Jews (i.e., people of
Jewish ancestry living in Scandinavia) converted to the Lutheran faith
a long time ago. The name "Redman" is definitely not a Scandinavian
name.

Like I said, this is your problem. My grandparents visited the homes
their parents were born in back in Scandinavia. I was joking you daft
sod. But hey, think whatever you want to think.

You thought my friend Fisch was a jew, even after Thomas, who is a real
German, told you it's a common name in Germany.

You are lying. Thomas wrote that "Fischer" (fisherman) is a very
common German name, which I am well aware of. The name "Fisch" (fish)
however is in the United States a typically Jewish name. I quoted a
Jewish reference stating that.

That's because his name IS Fischer. I called him Fisch as a nickname. You
daft sod.

He was a very blond,

very pale skinned German and a very devout fundamentalist Christian.

There are blond people who have Jewish ancestry. There are many
Christians who have Jewish ancestry.

So in other words, the German in YOU might be Jewish?

We

are from West Michigan - not quite the same as NYC, it's a very different
world. There were 240 people in my graduating class, and ONE guy was
jewish.

How can you know that none of the others (besides you and that ONE
other guy you are referring to) had any Jewish ancestry?
---
Miserable Man

Print this, take it to your shrink. That's my best advice, maybe he can
help. I don't know.

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Miserable Man wrote:

On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 04:22:04 -0800, Janithor <JanithorHAW@comcast.net>
wrote:

I was *JOKING* you because you think *everyone* is a jew. Have you ever
heard of a Scandinavian jew? My grandmother spoke fluent Swedish. My
dad, from whom I get my name, was raised a Lutheran.

There *are* of course Scandinavian Jews. You actually wrote that you
had such ancestors. Most of the Scandinavian Jews (i.e., people of
Jewish ancestry living in Scandinavia) converted to the Lutheran faith
a long time ago. The name "Redman" is definitely not a Scandinavian
name.

Like I said, this is your problem. My grandparents visited the homes
their parents were born in back in Scandinavia. I was joking you daft
sod. But hey, think whatever you want to think.

You thought my friend Fisch was a jew, even after Thomas, who is a real
German, told you it's a common name in Germany.

You are lying. Thomas wrote that "Fischer" (fisherman) is a very
common German name, which I am well aware of. The name "Fisch" (fish)
however is in the United States a typically Jewish name. I quoted a
Jewish reference stating that.

That's because his name IS Fischer. I called him Fisch as a nickname.
You daft sod.