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"Noon Cat Nick" |
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05 Feb 2008 08:25:23 PM |
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The irony of getting termed for illness |
I went and got a doc's note today documenting my recent illness. The
company still stood by its policy of terming trainees who miss more than
a day of work during training for any reason. They termed six other
trainees before me for the same reason. In the middle of a local
influenza outbreak.
One could question the legality of such a policy. Perhaps one should.
The irony of it is that, although (I believe) I shouldn't have been
canned under the circumstances, I'm not interested in fighting it
because I'd rather not work for a company that operates that way.
(Another irony is that the work frayed my nerve endings. I'm not sure
how long I'd've lasted there, illness or no.)
So it's back to what I was gonna do in the first place--hit the myriad
temp agencies once I'm past this flu. I may be out for a while, but I'm
not down. Perchance getting termed was, in the long run, not such a bad
thing.
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| User: "Jane" |
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| Title: Re: The irony of getting termed for illness |
05 Feb 2008 08:52:35 PM |
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"Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nU8qj.17447$yE1.9618@attbi_s21...
I went and got a doc's note today documenting my recent illness. The
company still stood by its policy of terming trainees who miss more than a
day of work during training for any reason. They termed six other trainees
before me for the same reason. In the middle of a local influenza outbreak.
One could question the legality of such a policy. Perhaps one should. The
irony of it is that, although (I believe) I shouldn't have been canned
under the circumstances, I'm not interested in fighting it because I'd
rather not work for a company that operates that way. (Another irony is
that the work frayed my nerve endings. I'm not sure how long I'd've lasted
there, illness or no.)
So it's back to what I was gonna do in the first place--hit the myriad
temp agencies once I'm past this flu. I may be out for a while, but I'm
not down. Perchance getting termed was, in the long run, not such a bad
thing.
Exactly Nick, when one door closes another opens. I thought that when I got
laid off from a previous job, I was so royally pissed since I moved from
Minnesota to Florida on a guarantee that the job would be no less then five
years. It lasted one grrrrr. But I'm much happier at the new job. Glad
you got the note, did you go to that clinic I found??? You do know I wish
the best for you I hope!
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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| Title: Re: The irony of getting termed for illness |
05 Feb 2008 10:35:51 PM |
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Jane wrote:
"Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nU8qj.17447$yE1.9618@attbi_s21...
I went and got a doc's note today documenting my recent illness. The
company still stood by its policy of terming trainees who miss more than a
day of work during training for any reason. They termed six other trainees
before me for the same reason. In the middle of a local influenza outbreak.
One could question the legality of such a policy. Perhaps one should. The
irony of it is that, although (I believe) I shouldn't have been canned
under the circumstances, I'm not interested in fighting it because I'd
rather not work for a company that operates that way. (Another irony is
that the work frayed my nerve endings. I'm not sure how long I'd've lasted
there, illness or no.)
So it's back to what I was gonna do in the first place--hit the myriad
temp agencies once I'm past this flu. I may be out for a while, but I'm
not down. Perchance getting termed was, in the long run, not such a bad
thing.
Exactly Nick, when one door closes another opens. I thought that when I got
laid off from a previous job, I was so royally pissed since I moved from
Minnesota to Florida on a guarantee that the job would be no less then five
years. It lasted one grrrrr. But I'm much happier at the new job. Glad
you got the note, did you go to that clinic I found??? You do know I wish
the best for you I hope!
Yep, that's where I went to get the note. Glad I know about that place
now (a thousand thank-yous, BTW), but it cut no ice with the powers that be.
All considered, I'm a bit better off now than two months ago. I now have
a bit of savings to build upon, plus a coming paycheck to tide me
through for awhile. Earned enough to scrap my analog TV set and get a
digital unit.
The way I sees it right now, I'll prob'ly never have a "career" or make
enough to have much of a nest egg in my senior years, or earn much more
than minimum wage ever. At best I'll have a small flat with a coupla
cats, my TV set and DVD player, computer access at the local public
libraries, and possibly not be able to afford to have the internet (or
even a 'puter) or own a car ever again, and I'll spend the rest of my
life paying off bit by bit the $25,000 in debt I've incurred. But if I
can at least have access to a pdoc and therp and other such resources,
and make enough to pay for my meds, things won't be grand but they'll be
comfy (times of physical illness excepted).
Depression is what's ruined 'most every chance and opportunity that's
ever been open to me so far in my life. I could live the remainder of my
days as a member of the working poor as long I have ways available to
avert or alleviate depression. Even my ex-wife has managed to have a
career despite her condition. If she can manage it, so should I.
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| User: "mighty mouse" |
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| Title: Re: The irony of getting termed for illness |
06 Feb 2008 03:06:38 AM |
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Noon Cat Nick wrote:
I went and got a doc's note today documenting my recent illness. The
company still stood by its policy of terming trainees who miss more than
a day of work during training for any reason. They termed six other
trainees before me for the same reason. In the middle of a local
influenza outbreak.
One could question the legality of such a policy. Perhaps one should.
The irony of it is that, although (I believe) I shouldn't have been
canned under the circumstances, I'm not interested in fighting it
because I'd rather not work for a company that operates that way.
(Another irony is that the work frayed my nerve endings. I'm not sure
how long I'd've lasted there, illness or no.)
So it's back to what I was gonna do in the first place--hit the myriad
temp agencies once I'm past this flu. I may be out for a while, but I'm
not down. Perchance getting termed was, in the long run, not such a bad
thing.
Sounds like you're handling this so well Nick. I'm really glad. You're
doing much better than I did when I've been in the same position.
The best revenge is to get out there, find something new and make it
work. Then you can dream about firebombing the company that sacked you!
I actually did dream that a couple of times about one particular
former employer :)
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| User: "cal" |
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| Title: Re: The irony of getting termed for illness |
06 Feb 2008 01:35:25 AM |
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On 2/5/08 9:25 PM, in article nU8qj.17447$yE1.9618@attbi_s21, "Noon Cat
Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote:
I went and got a doc's note today documenting my recent illness. The
company still stood by its policy of terming trainees who miss more than
a day of work during training for any reason. They termed six other
trainees before me for the same reason. In the middle of a local
influenza outbreak.
must be a lot of people needing work around there, for them to be getting
chewed and spat out like sunflower seeds. how long does it take them to
replace the people they turf out like that?
One could question the legality of such a policy. Perhaps one should.
in theory, yeah. in practice, expensive, lot of bother, and usually not
worth it. if they're the only game in town, you need a strong union going in
there to keep them on the up and up. otherwise the good people just go
across the street and work for the competition, and it all shakes out in the
end. crappy employers eventually rue the day.
i worked for this guy one time, his middle initial was F and behind his back
everybody said it stood for "fuckface". that's the kind of manager he was.
one evening around 9 o'clock he stopped by my cubicle and aired the view
that people like me should be working in the civil service, not the private
sector. i could tell he didn't mean this in a flattering way, and besides, i
was tired and stressed. i replied that people like him needed to have their
head shoved down a toilet and flushed a few times, whereupon he asked if i'd
like to try doing that. "i would," i said, "but i'm tired and you're not
worth the aggravation." then i packed my coffee mug and dying cubicle jade
plant in a plastic grocery bag and walked out, never to be seen there again.
the next day the ***** called me at home to ask if i was coming back, and
i said i saw no reason why i should. a month later i was working somewhere
else for more money than he paid me, and his lousy company went bust and
disappeared less than a year later.
The irony of it is that, although (I believe) I shouldn't have been
canned under the circumstances, I'm not interested in fighting it
because I'd rather not work for a company that operates that way.
absolutely not.
(Another irony is that the work frayed my nerve endings. I'm not sure
how long I'd've lasted there, illness or no.)
honestly, they sound like a bunch of shitheads. i probably would have quit
after watching the other six go down before me.
So it's back to what I was gonna do in the first place--hit the myriad
temp agencies once I'm past this flu.
i used to temp quite a lot at one time. i liked it, and the money, while not
great, was enough.
I may be out for a while, but I'm
not down. Perchance getting termed was, in the long run, not such a bad
thing.
it usually isn't, in the long run. just stings a bit in the short run.
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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06 Feb 2008 04:00:56 AM |
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cal wrote:
On 2/5/08 9:25 PM, in article nU8qj.17447$yE1.9618@attbi_s21, "Noon Cat
Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote:
I went and got a doc's note today documenting my recent illness. The
company still stood by its policy of terming trainees who miss more than
a day of work during training for any reason. They termed six other
trainees before me for the same reason. In the middle of a local
influenza outbreak.
must be a lot of people needing work around there, for them to be getting
chewed and spat out like sunflower seeds. how long does it take them to
replace the people they turf out like that?
Not long. This company is always hiring. And starting wage is $10/hr.,
quite a competitive rate for this area in terms of hiring untrained
personnel. 'Course, they end up losing about half of those they hire
during the training process, for sundry reasons. But they've gotta
continually large pool of applicants to make up the slack.
One could question the legality of such a policy. Perhaps one should.
in theory, yeah. in practice, expensive, lot of bother, and usually not
worth it. if they're the only game in town, you need a strong union going in
there to keep them on the up and up. otherwise the good people just go
across the street and work for the competition, and it all shakes out in the
end. crappy employers eventually rue the day.
For sure. Thing is, not all customer service is as arduous as what I was
trained to do there. I was dealing with Verizon Wireless customers,
ranked one of the most difficult customer service positions in the U.S.,
and consequently one of the most stressful. I've done customer service
before, for a computer leasing corporation out of New Jersey, and that
was porter and skittles compared to this. No wonder the company has to
fight attrition continually.
i worked for this guy one time, his middle initial was F and behind his back
everybody said it stood for "fuckface". that's the kind of manager he was.
one evening around 9 o'clock he stopped by my cubicle and aired the view
that people like me should be working in the civil service, not the private
sector. i could tell he didn't mean this in a flattering way, and besides, i
was tired and stressed. i replied that people like him needed to have their
head shoved down a toilet and flushed a few times, whereupon he asked if i'd
like to try doing that. "i would," i said, "but i'm tired and you're not
worth the aggravation." then i packed my coffee mug and dying cubicle jade
plant in a plastic grocery bag and walked out, never to be seen there again.
the next day the ***** called me at home to ask if i was coming back, and
i said i saw no reason why i should. a month later i was working somewhere
else for more money than he paid me, and his lousy company went bust and
disappeared less than a year later.
The irony of it is that, although (I believe) I shouldn't have been
canned under the circumstances, I'm not interested in fighting it
because I'd rather not work for a company that operates that way.
absolutely not.
(Another irony is that the work frayed my nerve endings. I'm not sure
how long I'd've lasted there, illness or no.)
honestly, they sound like a bunch of shitheads. i probably would have quit
after watching the other six go down before me.
So it's back to what I was gonna do in the first place--hit the myriad
temp agencies once I'm past this flu.
i used to temp quite a lot at one time. i liked it, and the money, while not
great, was enough.
I may be out for a while, but I'm
not down. Perchance getting termed was, in the long run, not such a bad
thing.
it usually isn't, in the long run. just stings a bit in the short run.
Thanks, Cal. It's been a hard few weeks. Never thought I'd feel upbeat
about tanking a job.
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| User: "Michelle la Belle" |
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05 Feb 2008 08:31:13 PM |
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On Feb 5, 9:25=A0pm, Noon Cat Nick <chatdemidiSPAMBEG...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I went and got a doc's note today documenting my recent illness. The
company still stood by its policy of terming trainees who miss more than
a day of work during training for any reason. They termed six other
trainees before me for the same reason. In the middle of a local
influenza outbreak.
One could question the legality of such a policy. Perhaps one should.
The irony of it is that, although (I believe) I shouldn't have been
canned under the circumstances, I'm not interested in fighting it
because I'd rather not work for a company that operates that way.
(Another irony is that the work frayed my nerve endings. I'm not sure
how long I'd've lasted there, illness or no.)
So it's back to what I was gonna do in the first place--hit the myriad
temp agencies once I'm past this flu. I may be out for a while, but I'm
not down. Perchance getting termed was, in the long run, not such a bad
thing.
You go, Nick.
A blessing in disguise.
I wouldn't want to work for those cunts either.
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| User: "Gelly" |
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05 Feb 2008 08:32:56 PM |
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On Feb 5, 8:31 pm, Michelle la Belle <aminotem...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 5, 9:25 pm, Noon Cat Nick <chatdemidiSPAMBEG...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I went and got a doc's note today documenting my recent illness. The
company still stood by its policy of terming trainees who miss more than
a day of work during training for any reason. They termed six other
trainees before me for the same reason. In the middle of a local
influenza outbreak.
One could question the legality of such a policy. Perhaps one should.
The irony of it is that, although (I believe) I shouldn't have been
canned under the circumstances, I'm not interested in fighting it
because I'd rather not work for a company that operates that way.
(Another irony is that the work frayed my nerve endings. I'm not sure
how long I'd've lasted there, illness or no.)
So it's back to what I was gonna do in the first place--hit the myriad
temp agencies once I'm past this flu. I may be out for a while, but I'm
not down. Perchance getting termed was, in the long run, not such a bad
thing.
You go, Nick.
A blessing in disguise.
I wouldn't want to work for those cunts either.
Yeah, sounds about right
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| User: "Translucent Troglodyte" |
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05 Feb 2008 11:52:56 PM |
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:25:23 GMT, Noon Cat Nick
<chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote:
I went and got a doc's note today documenting my recent illness. The
company still stood by its policy of terming trainees who miss more than
a day of work during training for any reason. They termed six other
trainees before me for the same reason. In the middle of a local
influenza outbreak.
One could question the legality of such a policy. Perhaps one should.
The irony of it is that, although (I believe) I shouldn't have been
canned under the circumstances, I'm not interested in fighting it
because I'd rather not work for a company that operates that way.
(Another irony is that the work frayed my nerve endings. I'm not sure
how long I'd've lasted there, illness or no.)
So it's back to what I was gonna do in the first place--hit the myriad
temp agencies once I'm past this flu. I may be out for a while, but I'm
not down. Perchance getting termed was, in the long run, not such a bad
thing.
I didn't want to say anything when you got the job, as it was
obviously a morale booster when you landed it, but I was concerned
that it would be soul-sucking engagement. I knew *I* couldn't have
handled it.
You sound so much better, Nick, and I'm happy for you.
TT
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Going nowhere
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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06 Feb 2008 12:23:50 AM |
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Translucent Troglodyte wrote:
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:25:23 GMT, Noon Cat Nick
<chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote:
I went and got a doc's note today documenting my recent illness. The
company still stood by its policy of terming trainees who miss more than
a day of work during training for any reason. They termed six other
trainees before me for the same reason. In the middle of a local
influenza outbreak.
One could question the legality of such a policy. Perhaps one should.
The irony of it is that, although (I believe) I shouldn't have been
canned under the circumstances, I'm not interested in fighting it
because I'd rather not work for a company that operates that way.
(Another irony is that the work frayed my nerve endings. I'm not sure
how long I'd've lasted there, illness or no.)
So it's back to what I was gonna do in the first place--hit the myriad
temp agencies once I'm past this flu. I may be out for a while, but I'm
not down. Perchance getting termed was, in the long run, not such a bad
thing.
I didn't want to say anything when you got the job, as it was
obviously a morale booster when you landed it, but I was concerned
that it would be soul-sucking engagement. I knew *I* couldn't have
handled it.
That was wise. Better one should find out for oneself than to have a
voice of reality rain on their parade of positive self-delusion. Seriously.
You sound so much better, Nick, and I'm happy for you.
Thanks. I'm not feeling so bad about it anymore these days. At least I
proved I could pull 40 hrs. a week. Now to find employment that *isn't*
soul-sucking.
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