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"used2be" |
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22 Aug 2006 09:15:43 AM |
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the jon benet ramsey case... |
do you think this Karr guy did it?
i can't decide...he just seems so wimpy and all. something just doesn't
seem right about it at all. i hope they get this thing solved soon. it's
been going on long enough. that family needs some closure!!!
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When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
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| User: "victorious man" |
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| Title: Re: the jon benet ramsey case... |
22 Aug 2006 11:18:58 PM |
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"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in
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do you think this Karr guy did it?
i can't decide...he just seems so wimpy and all. something just
doesn't seem right about it at all. i hope they get this thing solved
soon. it's been going on long enough. that family needs some
closure!!!
He is definitely a pervert, but I'm not sure he is the person who killed
Jon Benet Ramsey.
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| User: "Justin Case ." |
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| Title: Re: the jon benet ramsey case... |
22 Aug 2006 09:18:51 AM |
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"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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do you think this Karr guy did it?
i can't decide...he just seems so wimpy and all. something just doesn't
seem right about it at all. i hope they get this thing solved soon. it's
been going on long enough. that family needs some closure!!!
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When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
would be nice to finally know who did it, shame the little girls mother
recently died of cancer and had no real closure though.
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: the jon benet ramsey case... |
22 Aug 2006 10:55:25 PM |
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On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:18:51 +1000, "Justin Case" <.> wrote:
would be nice to finally know who did it, shame the little girls mother
recently died of cancer and had no real closure though.
There is a lot of evidence to show that Patsy Ramsey wrote the ransom note.
I don't think she needed closure. I think she knew what happened.
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| User: "Justin Case ." |
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| Title: Re: the jon benet ramsey case... |
23 Aug 2006 03:10:31 AM |
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 00:18:51 +1000, "Justin Case" <.> wrote:
would be nice to finally know who did it, shame the little girls mother
recently died of cancer and had no real closure though.
There is a lot of evidence to show that Patsy Ramsey wrote the ransom
note.
I don't think she needed closure. I think she knew what happened.
Well if thats true, ***** her! may she rot in hell.
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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| Title: Re: the jon benet ramsey case... |
22 Aug 2006 10:00:51 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:15:43 +0000, used2be wrote:
do you think this Karr guy did it?
Honestly, no. I think he's a nut-job that had nothing to do with it.
(Though, that's just a feeling. I'm not sure what actual evidence they
have against him.)
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The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.
Feingold-Obama '08 - Because the Constitution isn't history,
It's the law.
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: the jon benet ramsey case... |
22 Aug 2006 10:04:09 AM |
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"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:15:43 +0000, used2be wrote:
do you think this Karr guy did it?
Honestly, no. I think he's a nut-job that had nothing to do with it.
(Though, that's just a feeling. I'm not sure what actual evidence they
have against him.)
same with me....it's just a feeling i get. but they did say he knew details
about the murder that he shouldn't know unless he did it. still, though...i
just have this weird feeling about him...
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| User: "Jesters mummy" |
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22 Aug 2006 11:49:27 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:04:09 GMT, "used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:
<(((*>same with me....it's just a feeling i get. but they did say he knew details
<(((*>about the murder that he shouldn't know unless he did it.
Or unless he talked to somebody (cop, perp) who knew the details. His
longstanding obsession with the case argues for the former. But then he's into
child porn, and it might have brought him together with the latter.
<(((*>still, though...i
<(((*>just have this weird feeling about him...
Oh, he's plenty creepy, what with marrying both his wives when they were under
age 15, and getting all touchy-feely with little girls.
But did he do it? I doubt it. I expect the DNA will rule him out. I'm prepared
to be wrong, of course.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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| User: "used2be" |
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22 Aug 2006 01:00:02 PM |
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"Jester's mummy" <cocky2@nest.egg> wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:04:09 GMT, "used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:
<(((*>same with me....it's just a feeling i get. but they did say he knew
details
<(((*>about the murder that he shouldn't know unless he did it.
Or unless he talked to somebody (cop, perp) who knew the details. His
longstanding obsession with the case argues for the former. But then he's
into
child porn, and it might have brought him together with the latter.
<(((*>still, though...i
<(((*>just have this weird feeling about him...
Oh, he's plenty creepy, what with marrying both his wives when they were
under
age 15, and getting all touchy-feely with little girls.
But did he do it? I doubt it. I expect the DNA will rule him out. I'm
prepared
to be wrong, of course.
yes, he's definitely creepy for sure. but for several reasons, i am having
trouble connecting the dots and believing he did it. i hope to be wrong.
it would be nice for her killer to be finally brought to justice.
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| User: "Gayle" |
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22 Aug 2006 02:45:42 PM |
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used2be wrote:
yes, he's definitely creepy for sure. but for several reasons, i am having
trouble connecting the dots and believing he did it. i hope to be wrong.
it would be nice for her killer to be finally brought to justice.
I don't know if they have enough to
connect the dots for a conviction ...
but they've got something more than
unpublished details in emails, imo.
I saw an interview with a handwriting
analyst who was comparing the "ransom"
note and stuff Karr had written in other
people's yearbooks. The comparisons were
freakishly similar (to my eye) and this
guy said that there'd be no problem
finding experts to testify to that. That
wouldn't be enough, imo.
Also, he had a tag line in the
yearbooks: "Soon To Be The Conqueror".
The "ransom" note had 'STBTC' written on
it.
But, if they had a DNA match, I think
that info would have found its way
public. He might have been there, but
not alone -- and that is what he said.
Of course, everything he has said, so
far, could be inadmissible at trial.
I'll hang with the 'presumed innocent'
crowd for now. But I'll bet they've got
something we don't know about.
Gayle
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| User: "justabeing" |
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| Title: Re: the jon benet ramsey case... |
22 Aug 2006 05:06:52 PM |
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"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
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used2be wrote:
yes, he's definitely creepy for sure. but for several reasons, i am
having trouble connecting the dots and believing he did it. i hope to be
wrong. it would be nice for her killer to be finally brought to justice.
I don't know if they have enough to connect the dots for a conviction ...
but they've got something more than unpublished details in emails, imo.
I saw an interview with a handwriting analyst who was comparing the
"ransom" note and stuff Karr had written in other people's yearbooks. The
comparisons were freakishly similar (to my eye) and this guy said that
there'd be no problem finding experts to testify to that. That wouldn't be
enough, imo.
Also, he had a tag line in the yearbooks: "Soon To Be The Conqueror". The
"ransom" note had 'STBTC' written on it.
But, if they had a DNA match, I think that info would have found its way
public. He might have been there, but not alone -- and that is what he
said. Of course, everything he has said, so far, could be inadmissible at
trial.
I'll hang with the 'presumed innocent' crowd for now. But I'll bet they've
got something we don't know about.
Gayle
yes, i agree (that they have something we don't know about)
yes that guy is massively creepy
i read that the journalist professor who'd been emailing with him received a
photo from him of himself as a small boy, holding a white "christmas" teddy
bear.....
they say one just like it was found in JonBennet's room and no one could
account for it.............
very strange
either he knew the perpetrator well or it is him (all the contradictory info
aside), i'm waiting on the DNA evidence............
what a very sad story the whole dang thing has been
justabeing
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| User: "Gayle" |
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22 Aug 2006 09:42:58 PM |
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justabeing wrote:
i read that the journalist professor who'd been emailing with him received a
photo from him of himself as a small boy, holding a white "christmas" teddy
bear.....
they say one just like it was found in JonBennet's room and no one could
account for it.............
very strange
Ewww, strange ... every single bit of it.
either he knew the perpetrator well or it is him (all the contradictory info
aside), i'm waiting on the DNA evidence............
Well, I'll bet the silverware/glasses he
handled on the plane are already on
their way to the lab.
what a very sad story the whole dang thing has been
It has -- but it makes me feel sadder
for the less affluent, less photogenic
kids who get killed with little
attention from the community at all. Or,
maybe it's the mystery, the whodunit,
the bizarre details that makes it a big
story -- and it's not about JonBenet at all.
Gayle
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: the jon benet ramsey case... |
22 Aug 2006 11:01:38 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:45:42 -0400, Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote:
I saw an interview with a handwriting
analyst who was comparing the "ransom"
note and stuff Karr had written in other
people's yearbooks. The comparisons were
freakishly similar (to my eye) and this
guy said that there'd be no problem
finding experts to testify to that. That
wouldn't be enough, imo.
Also, he had a tag line in the
yearbooks: "Soon To Be The Conqueror".
The "ransom" note had 'STBTC' written on
it.
I heard just the opposite. That preliminary examinations have ruled him out
as the author of the note. Yet nine hand writing analysts have said that
the note was written by Patsy Ramsey. I still have a feeling that the
Ramsey's, at least Patsy, may be implicated somehow.
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| User: "áñti-ëVêrYtHïñG" |
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23 Aug 2006 04:15:38 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:15:43 GMT, "used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:
do you think this Karr guy did it?
i can't decide...he just seems so wimpy and all. something just doesn't
seem right about it at all. i hope they get this thing solved soon. it's
been going on long enough. that family needs some closure!!!
As others here have already said. I too think that he is guilty of something,
but maybe not the murder of JBR.
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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22 Aug 2006 10:53:59 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:15:43 GMT, "used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:
do you think this Karr guy did it?
i can't decide...he just seems so wimpy and all. something just doesn't
seem right about it at all. i hope they get this thing solved soon. it's
been going on long enough. that family needs some closure!!!
He seems to have given too much contradictory information already. Like
saying he picked Jon Benet up from school that day when it was the
Christmas holiday and school was out. He also said her death was an
accident when the fact is she was brutally beaten and strangled. PLus his
ex-wife has stated that he wasn't in Colorado at the time.
It's a bizarre case. A ransom note left when the dead body is still in the
house? Weird. And I can't help but wonder why nine hand writing analysts
have said that the ransom note was written by Patsy Ramsey, and after the
Ramsey's hired their own expert, they refused the release the results.
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| User: "used2be" |
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23 Aug 2006 09:05:45 AM |
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:15:43 GMT, "used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:
do you think this Karr guy did it?
i can't decide...he just seems so wimpy and all. something just doesn't
seem right about it at all. i hope they get this thing solved soon. it's
been going on long enough. that family needs some closure!!!
He seems to have given too much contradictory information already. Like
saying he picked Jon Benet up from school that day when it was the
Christmas holiday and school was out. He also said her death was an
accident when the fact is she was brutally beaten and strangled. PLus his
ex-wife has stated that he wasn't in Colorado at the time.
yes, that is what started me to wondering about him. the fact that his EX
wife would actually offer an alibi for him. and one he didn't ask for. she
just offered it on her own. why would she want to protect him unless he
truly actually didn't do it? i dunno...
It's a bizarre case. A ransom note left when the dead body is still in the
house? Weird. And I can't help but wonder why nine hand writing analysts
have said that the ransom note was written by Patsy Ramsey, and after the
Ramsey's hired their own expert, they refused the release the results.
i'd forgotten that about the ransom note. the whole case was weird from the
get-go. and the way the family paraded JonBenet around in those beauty
pageants at such a young age was weird, too. but why would they want to
kill their own child? and in such a bizarre way. i just don't get it.
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| User: "jill" |
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22 Aug 2006 09:49:34 AM |
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used2be wrote:
do you think this Karr guy did it?
i can't decide...he just seems so wimpy and all. something just doesn't
seem right about it at all. i hope they get this thing solved soon. it's
been going on long enough. that family needs some closure!!!
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When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
I don't think he did it. I think he wishes he did though which seems
almost worse to me. He is a very creepy guy.
Yeah, the movie the books , Imagine losing a child and then having to
endure endless speculation over wether you killed your own child .
Years of it. I can't imagine. Mr Ramsey said that alot of people
stood by them , I hope so. jill
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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22 Aug 2006 01:34:39 PM |
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"jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote in message
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used2be wrote:
do you think this Karr guy did it?
i can't decide...he just seems so wimpy and all. something just doesn't
seem right about it at all. i hope they get this thing solved soon.
it's
been going on long enough. that family needs some closure!!!
When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
I don't think he did it. I think he wishes he did though which seems
almost worse to me. He is a very creepy guy.
Yeah, the movie the books , Imagine losing a child and then having to
endure endless speculation over wether you killed your own child .
Years of it. I can't imagine. Mr Ramsey said that alot of people
stood by them , I hope so. jill
I agree with you. I don't understand that "confess to a crime I didn't
commit" mindset, but it seems this could be the case here. Of course, there
is probably a lot we don't know yet. Weird story.
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Rhi
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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22 Aug 2006 01:51:43 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:34:39 -0400, Rhiannon wrote:
"jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote in message
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used2be wrote:
do you think this Karr guy did it?
i can't decide...he just seems so wimpy and all. something just
doesn't seem right about it at all. i hope they get this thing
solved soon.
it's
been going on long enough. that family needs some closure!!!
When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
I don't think he did it. I think he wishes he did though which seems
almost worse to me. He is a very creepy guy.
Yeah, the movie the books , Imagine losing a child and then having to
endure endless speculation over wether you killed your own child .
Years of it. I can't imagine. Mr Ramsey said that alot of people
stood by them , I hope so. jill
I agree with you. I don't understand that "confess to a crime I didn't
commit" mindset
It happens a lot more than we know and is one of the main reasons the
police keep the details of crimes out of the public view.
I remember reading about the hundreds of people confessing to being the
zodiac killer when he was doing his thing... the real guy finally had to
send a letter to Herb Caen (columnist for the S.F. Chronicle) through the
police, to let the city and police know he was still around.
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The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.
Feingold-Obama '08 - Because the Constitution isn't history,
It's the law.
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: the jon benet ramsey case... |
22 Aug 2006 10:03:16 AM |
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"jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote in message
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used2be wrote:
do you think this Karr guy did it?
i can't decide...he just seems so wimpy and all. something just doesn't
seem right about it at all. i hope they get this thing solved soon.
it's
been going on long enough. that family needs some closure!!!
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When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
I don't think he did it. I think he wishes he did though which seems
almost worse to me. He is a very creepy guy.
yes, this is exactly the same feeling i get! that he's only admitting to it
for attention and not because he actually did it. fwiw, i hope i'm wrong.
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