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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "franco@grex"
Date: 17 Nov 2003 12:18:10 PM
Object: The Manual of Epictetus
An excerpt from The Manual of the stoic greek philosopher Epictetus:
"If you want to improve, reject such reasonings as these: "If I
neglect my affairs, I'll have no income; if I don't correct my
servant, he will be bad." For it is better to die with hunger, exempt
from grief and fear, than to live in affluence with perturbation; and
it is better your servant should be bad, than you unhappy. Begin
therefore from little things. Is a little oil spilt? A little wine
stolen? Say to yourself, "This is the price paid for apathy, for
tranquillity, and nothing is to be had for nothing." When you call
your servant, it is possible that he may not come; or, if he does, he
may not do what you want. But he is by no means of such importance
that it should be in his power to give you any disturbance."
This part now is a bit OT: The text above applies universally, but the
reason I especially recalled it today is because of a recent personal
incident. I won't go into details, but suffice it to say that I am
really sick of a government that rips off its own citizens. Europs
sucks. Now I understand americans when they talk about the hypocrisy
of european governments.
.

User: "Jernau Gurgeh"

Title: Re: The Manual of Epictetus 17 Nov 2003 02:35:37 PM
franco@grex wrote on 17 Nov 2003 in alt.support.depression

An excerpt from The Manual of the stoic greek philosopher Epictetus:

"If you want to improve, reject such reasonings as these: "If I
neglect my affairs, I'll have no income; if I don't correct my
servant, he will be bad." For it is better to die with hunger, exempt
from grief and fear, than to live in affluence with perturbation; and
it is better your servant should be bad, than you unhappy. Begin
therefore from little things. Is a little oil spilt? A little wine
stolen? Say to yourself, "This is the price paid for apathy, for
tranquillity, and nothing is to be had for nothing." When you call
your servant, it is possible that he may not come; or, if he does, he
may not do what you want. But he is by no means of such importance
that it should be in his power to give you any disturbance."

This part now is a bit OT: The text above applies universally, but the
reason I especially recalled it today is because of a recent personal
incident. I won't go into details, but suffice it to say that I am
really sick of a government that rips off its own citizens. Europs
sucks. Now I understand americans when they talk about the hypocrisy
of european governments.

I think the hypocrisy of governments is universal, not just European.
Apart from that, I've always assumed you are an American, I'm not exactly
sure why, but have I been wrong all this time?
Jernau
--
By Endurance We Conquer
-E. Shackleton
.
User: "franco@grex"

Title: Re: The Manual of Epictetus 17 Nov 2003 04:34:18 PM
Jernau Gurgeh <jernaugurgeh@mind.snuh> wrote...

I think the hypocrisy of governments is universal, not just European.
Apart from that, I've always assumed you are an American, I'm not exactly
sure why, but have I been wrong all this time?

European citizen here, living under the dominion of a bogus liberal political
regime that profess the practice of what I call the 'anti-robinhood policy' of
stealing from the poor to give to the rich, so that the rich get richer and the
poor get poorer... But enough about politics, I'm in a better mood already...
water under the bridge.
.
User: "Jernau Gurgeh"

Title: Re: The Manual of Epictetus 17 Nov 2003 06:08:12 PM
franco@grex wrote on 17 Nov 2003 in alt.support.depression

Jernau Gurgeh <jernaugurgeh@mind.snuh> wrote...

I think the hypocrisy of governments is universal, not just European.
Apart from that, I've always assumed you are an American, I'm not
exactly sure why, but have I been wrong all this time?


European citizen here, living under the dominion of a bogus liberal
political regime that profess the practice of what I call the
'anti-robinhood policy' of stealing from the poor to give to the rich,
so that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer...

Could still be anywhere in Europe :-)

But enough
about politics, I'm in a better mood already... water under the
bridge.


Okay, that's better. How did you manage to turn your mood around, if I
may ask? By taking your mind of it?
Jernau
--
By Endurance We Conquer
-E. Shackleton
.
User: "franco@grex"

Title: Re: The Manual of Epictetus 18 Nov 2003 04:06:17 PM
Jernau Gurgeh <jernaugurgeh@mind.snuh> wrote

franco@grex wrote on 17 Nov 2003 in alt.support.depression

Jernau Gurgeh <jernaugurgeh@mind.snuh> wrote...

I think the hypocrisy of governments is universal, not just European.
Apart from that, I've always assumed you are an American, I'm not
exactly sure why, but have I been wrong all this time?

European citizen here, living under the dominion of a bogus liberal
political regime that profess the practice of what I call the
'anti-robinhood policy' of stealing from the poor to give to the rich,
so that the rich get richer and the poor get poorer...

Could still be anywhere in Europe :-)

We'll leave 'private' details for emails. Don't want to be pulled to
jail for defamation against our noble authorities (wink, wink).

But enough
about politics, I'm in a better mood already... water under the
bridge.

Okay, that's better. How did you manage to turn your mood around, if I
may ask? By taking your mind of it?

Not really, it's more by rationalizing it. See the extract from manual
of Epictetus above? I said to myself: alright, let the money be stolen
if that is the price one must pay for peace of mind.
.





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