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17 Oct 2005 06:43:40 PM |
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the most thoughtful, sensitive first lady is: |
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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| Title: Re: the most thoughtful, sensitive first lady is: |
19 Oct 2005 04:53:54 PM |
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"alvintchase" <Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbarbarabushunderprivileged.htm
-"Alvintchase"
She's a peach ain't she?
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Rhiannon
rhianon@sympatico.ca
The Labyrinth
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| User: "bunny" |
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| Title: Re: the most thoughtful, sensitive first lady is: |
17 Oct 2005 08:37:47 PM |
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Oh my god. When I first read what she had said, I was dumbfounded but
hoping (without a lot of conviction, but still hoping) that somehow it came
out worse in writing and she didn't really mean it the way it came out.
Then I heard a recording of her actually saying the stuff and it was worse
than it read. Her voice inflections, my god, she really *did* mean it that
way. That karma scares me.
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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| Title: Re: the most thoughtful, sensitive first lady is: |
18 Oct 2005 10:42:34 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:37:47 +0000, bunny wrote:
Oh my god. When I first read what she had said, I was dumbfounded but
hoping (without a lot of conviction, but still hoping) that somehow it
came out worse in writing and she didn't really mean it the way it came
out. Then I heard a recording of her actually saying the stuff and it
was worse than it read. Her voice inflections, my god, she really *did*
mean it that way. That karma scares me.
Yep... that's the truly frightening thing about anyone who's a republican
and doesn't have an excess of 5 million dollars in the bank... they really
don't understand that these people think of 99% of the world as nothing
but ants.
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"Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed."
Benjamin Franklin (I didn't know he was a Buddhist)
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| User: "bunny" |
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| Title: Re: the most thoughtful, sensitive first lady is: |
18 Oct 2005 12:37:32 PM |
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"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote
Yep... that's the truly frightening thing about anyone who's a republican
and doesn't have an excess of 5 million dollars in the bank... they really
don't understand that these people think of 99% of the world as nothing
but ants.
Well, that's just a silly stereotype. I've known a couple of
multimillionaire Republicans personally who were kind and philanthropic and
respectful to people in general. Think outside the box, Ivan. :)
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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| Title: Re: the most thoughtful, sensitive first lady is: |
18 Oct 2005 12:50:59 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:37:32 +0000, bunny wrote:
"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote
Yep... that's the truly frightening thing about anyone who's a
republican and doesn't have an excess of 5 million dollars in the
bank... they really don't understand that these people think of 99% of
the world as nothing but ants.
Well, that's just a silly stereotype.
No... if you're one of the relatively poor in this country and you support
what the republican party has become in the last 20 years... you are a
moron.
I've known a couple of multimillionaire Republicans personally who were
kind and philanthropic and respectful to people in general. Think
outside the box, Ivan. :)
There is no box!
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"Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed."
Benjamin Franklin (I didn't know he was a Buddhist)
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| User: "bunny" |
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| Title: Re: the most thoughtful, sensitive first lady is: |
18 Oct 2005 01:12:03 PM |
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"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.10.18.17.50.59.131108@you.now...
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:37:32 +0000, bunny wrote:
"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote
Yep... that's the truly frightening thing about anyone who's a
republican and doesn't have an excess of 5 million dollars in the
bank... they really don't understand that these people think of 99% of
the world as nothing but ants.
Well, that's just a silly stereotype.
No... if you're one of the relatively poor in this country and you support
what the republican party has become in the last 20 years... you are a
moron.
That's completely different than your first statement.
I've known a couple of multimillionaire Republicans personally who were
kind and philanthropic and respectful to people in general. Think
outside the box, Ivan. :)
There is no box!
Your stereotype of all Republicans who have five million dollars is just as
much of a box as when people say "all muslims are terrorists" or "all women
are bad drivers". And just as dumb.
I get impatient with these kinds of sweeping "anyone" statements that are
almost always going to be wrong. God knows I'm a flaming liberal myself,
but I'm not such a prejudiced jerk that I can't recognize goodness and
respect in someone who believes differently than I do just because she's
rich. I'm thinking of a very sweet lady who was a Republican and certainly
had in excess of five million dollars. She didn't think anyone was an ant.
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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18 Oct 2005 04:36:54 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 18:12:03 +0000, bunny wrote:
"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.10.18.17.50.59.131108@you.now...
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:37:32 +0000, bunny wrote:
"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote
Yep... that's the truly frightening thing about anyone who's a
republican and doesn't have an excess of 5 million dollars in the
bank... they really don't understand that these people think of 99%
of the world as nothing but ants.
Well, that's just a silly stereotype.
No... if you're one of the relatively poor in this country and you
support what the republican party has become in the last 20 years...
you are a moron.
That's completely different than your first statement.
No, it's not. Multimillionaires ARE relatively poor compared to the people
in question.
I've known a couple of multimillionaire Republicans personally who
were kind and philanthropic and respectful to people in general. Think
outside the box, Ivan. :)
There is no box!
Your stereotype of all Republicans who have five million dollars is just
as much of a box as when people say "all muslims are terrorists" or "all
women are bad drivers". And just as dumb.
Muslims follow a religion.
Republicans follow a mega-rich group of power hungry, old money families
that want to rule the world.
There is no comparison.
I get impatient with these kinds of sweeping "anyone" statements that
are almost always going to be wrong. God knows I'm a flaming liberal
myself, but I'm not such a prejudiced jerk that I can't recognize
goodness and respect in someone who believes differently than I do just
because she's rich.
Goodness and respect have nothing to do with it. This is the current
republican party http://www.newamericancentury.org/ perhaps you should
read up on who the people are that are in charge of this country... all
republicans certainly should. I think they'd be surprised who their
leaders are.
You'll notice quite a bit of their policies have already been implemented
during the current administration.
I'm thinking of a very sweet lady who was a Republican and certainly had
in excess of five million dollars. She didn't think anyone was an ant.
I'm not a liberal. ...and if she believes in what the current republican
party and the PNAC believe in she DOES believe that the poor are ants to
be stepped on... she's just not honest about it.
Give it another ten years... the ten commandments will be the
constitution, the US will be the government for the world, there will be
no expectation of privacy at any time, sex and free speech will be
reserved for those in charge.
These are the very people that suppressed the technology that would have
kept this country, and perhaps the world, out of the current situation.
Any republican who isn't a member of this power society is living in
denial that they are no more important than the poorest of our nation.
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"Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed."
Benjamin Franklin (I didn't know he was a Buddhist)
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| User: "bunny" |
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| Title: Re: the most thoughtful, sensitive first lady is: |
18 Oct 2005 05:24:34 PM |
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"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote
I don't care about your political rants. I have enough of my own, thanks.
What I *did* clearly object to, which you very well know and are ignoring,
is your stupid statement that *anyone* -- your word, no exceptions,
absolutely *anyone* -- who is a Republican and has more than 5 million
dollars thinks of people with less money as ants.
That's just a big lie. The lady I was referring to is my dead
step-grandmother. She was quite rich, and quite kind and respectful of
others whether they had money or not. You're in no position to judge her
honesty, but I am. So, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, *****
off.
Rant all you want about policies and parties. When you try to make one size
fit everyone and anyone who belongs to a party and has money, you make a
fool of yourself.
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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19 Oct 2005 11:48:56 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:24:34 +0000, bunny wrote:
"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote
I don't care about your political rants. I have enough of my own,
thanks.
Then shut the ***** up. It was a political thread about people in power and
wealth.
What I *did* clearly object to, which you very well know and are
ignoring, is your stupid statement that *anyone* -- your word, no
exceptions, absolutely *anyone* -- who is a Republican and has more than
5 million dollars thinks of people with less money as ants.
If they believe in what the current republican party believes they do.
It's an undeniably true statement.
That's just a big lie. The lady I was referring to is my dead
step-grandmother. She was quite rich, and quite kind and respectful of
others whether they had money or not. You're in no position to judge her
honesty, but I am. So, and I mean this in the nicest possible way, *****
off.
No, you're just in denial.
Rant all you want about policies and parties. When you try to make one
size fit everyone and anyone who belongs to a party and has money, you
make a fool of yourself.
You've missed the point entirely and gotten your panties in a bunch over
something you're taking personally for the wrong reasons.
If you can't understand something someone writes then you probably
shouldn't comment on it.
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"Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed."
Benjamin Franklin (I didn't know he was a Buddhist)
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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18 Oct 2005 04:41:05 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:50:59 -0500, Ivan Marsh <annoyed@you.now> wrote:
No... if you're one of the relatively poor in this country and you support
what the republican party has become in the last 20 years... you are a
moron.
You're an even bigger moron if you are poor, black, and still vote for
Democrats.
Wise up and vote Libertarian.
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The second item in the liberal creed, after self-righteousness, is
unaccountability. Liberals have invented whole college majors - psychology,
sociology, women's studies - to prove that nothing is anybody's fault. No
one is fond of taking responsibility for his actions, but consider how much
you'd have to hate free will to come up with a political platform that
advocates killing unborn babies but not convicted murderers. A callous
pragmatist might favor abortion and capital punishment. A devout Christian
would sanction neither. But it takes years of therapy to arrive at the
liberal view.
- P.J. O'Roarke, Give War A Chance (1992)
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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19 Oct 2005 11:50:19 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:41:05 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:50:59 -0500, Ivan Marsh <annoyed@you.now> wrote:
No... if you're one of the relatively poor in this country and you
support what the republican party has become in the last 20 years... you
are a moron.
You're an even bigger moron if you are poor, black, and still vote for
Democrats.
The Democratic party is dead. I wish they'd stop being such push-overs.
Wise up and vote Libertarian.
I would if they could find someone that had a chance of winning an
election.
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"Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed."
Benjamin Franklin (I didn't know he was a Buddhist)
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| User: "Gayle" |
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19 Oct 2005 12:12:03 PM |
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Ivan Marsh wrote:
Wise up and vote Libertarian.
I would if they could find someone that had a chance of winning an
election.
More than once, I tried to get a voter
registration drive going at Boston's
annual marijuana decriminalization, um,
festival. Many of the organizers are
Libertarian Party affiliated. They
looked at me like I had 2 heads -- in a
"why would we wanna do that?" kinda way.
Oh, I dunno, 50 - 60 thousand people,
mostly young and statistically likely to
be unregistered, in one place trying to
have an impact on legislation? Sigh.
Someone once opined to me that the
problem with the Libertarian party was
that it was full of libertarians. heh.
Gayle
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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19 Oct 2005 12:40:24 PM |
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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:12:03 -0400, Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote:
More than once, I tried to get a voter
registration drive going at Boston's
annual marijuana decriminalization, um,
festival. Many of the organizers are
Libertarian Party affiliated. They
looked at me like I had 2 heads -- in a
"why would we wanna do that?" kinda way.
Oh, I dunno, 50 - 60 thousand people,
mostly young and statistically likely to
be unregistered, in one place trying to
have an impact on legislation? Sigh.
Someone once opined to me that the
problem with the Libertarian party was
that it was full of libertarians. heh.
The apathy probably had a lot more to do with the cannabis than the
libertarianism...
--
I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I don't know the
answer.
- Douglas Adams
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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19 Oct 2005 12:17:58 PM |
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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:50:19 -0500, Ivan Marsh <annoyed@you.now> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:41:05 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
Wise up and vote Libertarian.
I would if they could find someone that had a chance of winning an
election.
Which is why most people continue to vote for the lesser of two evils. It
doesn't occur to them that voting for the lesser of two evils guarantees
voting for evil.
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There will be peace when the Arabs love their children more than they hate
others.
- Golda Meir
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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19 Oct 2005 12:47:29 PM |
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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:17:58 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:50:19 -0500, Ivan Marsh <annoyed@you.now> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:41:05 +0000, CyberDroog wrote:
Wise up and vote Libertarian.
I would if they could find someone that had a chance of winning an
election.
Which is why most people continue to vote for the lesser of two evils.
It doesn't occur to them that voting for the lesser of two evils
guarantees voting for evil.
True... I don't think I've ever voted for anything but the lesser of two
evils myself.
Unfortunately, without an apparent win being possible for a third party
candidate, voting for a third party candidate usually means you'll be
assuring a win for the person you least want to win.
....and you end up with situations like Nader... the scumbag who took huge
republican contributions and insured a split of the democrat vote.
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"Blessed is he who expects nothing, for he shall never be disappointed."
Benjamin Franklin (I didn't know he was a Buddhist)
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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19 Oct 2005 12:57:52 PM |
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On 2005-10-19, Ivan Marsh wrote:
True... I don't think I've ever voted for anything but the lesser of two
evils myself.
The odd time, I've done it, but usually, I don't. These days, I vote
Green. <http://www.gp.org/> That's the American version.
<http://www.gp.org/platform.shtml>
They come across quite different than does the Libertarian Party.
<http://www.lp.org/> That's the American one, too.
<http://www.lp.org/issues/platform_all.shtml>
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It is better to live one day wisely and reflectively
than to live a hundred years in ignorance and indulgence.
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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18 Oct 2005 11:08:26 AM |
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Ivan Marsh wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:37:47 +0000, bunny wrote:
Oh my god. When I first read what she had said, I was dumbfounded but
hoping (without a lot of conviction, but still hoping) that somehow it
came out worse in writing and she didn't really mean it the way it came
out. Then I heard a recording of her actually saying the stuff and it
was worse than it read. Her voice inflections, my god, she really *did*
mean it that way. That karma scares me.
Yep... that's the truly frightening thing about anyone who's a republican
and doesn't have an excess of 5 million dollars in the bank... they really
don't understand that these people think of 99% of the world as nothing
but ants.
--
Barabara Bush also said that it was a "scary thing" that the
evacuees planned to stay in Texas...
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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18 Oct 2005 11:03:07 AM |
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bunny wrote:
Oh my god. When I first read what she had said, I was dumbfounded but
hoping (without a lot of conviction, but still hoping) that somehow it came
out worse in writing and she didn't really mean it the way it came out.
Then I heard a recording of her actually saying the stuff and it was worse
than it read. Her voice inflections, my god, she really *did* mean it that
way. That karma scares me.
yep, it's pretty scary...
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "bunny" |
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18 Oct 2005 12:34:44 PM |
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"alvintchase" <Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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bunny wrote:
Oh my god. When I first read what she had said, I was dumbfounded but
hoping (without a lot of conviction, but still hoping) that somehow it
came
out worse in writing and she didn't really mean it the way it came out.
Then I heard a recording of her actually saying the stuff and it was
worse
than it read. Her voice inflections, my god, she really *did* mean it
that
way. That karma scares me.
yep, it's pretty scary...
*She's* pretty scary. From all accounts I've seen, she's one of the
bitchiest grande dames around. I honestly can't see anything grand about
her; she's always struck me as classless and graceless, and that has nothing
to do with her politics and everything to do with her nasty behaviour.
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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17 Oct 2005 07:08:40 PM |
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On 2005-10-17, alvintchase wrote:
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbarbarabushunderprivileged.htm
Bless her privileged little heart.
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