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Sociology > Depression |
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"K i l l e d S p i r i t k i l l e d S p i r i" |
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13 Dec 2004 05:45:58 PM |
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Too Much or Too Little |
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em·pa·thy [ émpəthee ]
1. understanding of another’s feelings: the ability to identify with and
understand another person’s feelings or difficulties
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sym·pa·thy [ símpəthee ] (plural sym·pa·thies)
1. capacity to share feelings: the ability to enter into, understand, or
share somebody else’s feelings
2. feelings caused by sympathy: the feelings of somebody who enters into or
shares another’s feelings
3. sorrow for another’s pain: the feeling or expression of pity or sorrow
for the pain or distress of somebody else.
[Late 16th century. Via Latin from Greek sumpatheia , from sumpathēs ,
literally “feeling with,” from pathos “feeling” (source of English pathetic
and pathology).]
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| User: "harpy" |
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| Title: Re: Too Much or Too Little |
13 Dec 2004 08:54:45 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:45:58 GMT, "K i l l e d S p i r i t" <k i l l e
d S p i r i t@ozone.net> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
empathy [ mp?thee ]
1. understanding of anothers feelings: the ability to identify with and
understand another persons feelings or difficulties
**************
sympathy [ smp?thee ] (plural sympathies)
1. capacity to share feelings: the ability to enter into, understand, or
share somebody elses feelings
2. feelings caused by sympathy: the feelings of somebody who enters into or
shares anothers feelings
3. sorrow for anothers pain: the feeling or expression of pity or sorrow
for the pain or distress of somebody else.
[Late 16th century. Via Latin from Greek sumpatheia , from sumpath?s ,
literally feeling with, from pathos feeling (source of English pathetic
and pathology).]
so..what one do you need most?
you sent this in..you must need sympathy..love..help?
which?
or attention?
its most likely one of the above.
give a yell if you need to!
harpy
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| User: "K i l l e d * S p i r i t x-no-archive:" |
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| Title: Re: Too Much or Too Little |
13 Dec 2004 10:23:32 PM |
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"harpy" <harpyhapps@happs.net> wrote in message
news:cdlsr0d0ivlt4gohn31c899qe9m4i1qm0u@4ax.com...
| so..what one do you need most?
| you sent this in..you must need sympathy..love..help?
| which?
| or attention?
| its most likely one of the above.
| give a yell if you need to!
| harpy
It had to do with the loss of Robert, and the fact that things seemed to be
going along as usual for some of the people, while others of us were in
quite a bit of pain.
I was thinking about the differences in the people.
That possibly some have an inability to experience the emotions described
(something I could offer sympathy for, but not empathize with).
My first reaction was shock and disbelief. Normal stuff..
After the reality of it sank in, and the next stages were on their way, it
began to bother me that the Vindictive Narcissists Periodic Cleansing of
ASD-med is underway!", and other unpleasant threads were continuing, as
though nothing had happened.
Something HAS happened. And I do not like it at all. It feels quite
dreadful.
I suppose the post was a cryptic or possibly somewhat goofy way of
expressing that.
-----------------
A more direct answer to your question would be, probably all of the
mentioned items, but I am somewhat more comfortable offering/expressing such
things than accepting them.
- I am dropping alt.support.trauma-ptsd from this thread.
Whether because it is too triggery, or painfully therapeutic, I don't know.
Some need their walls - too many ill intentioned visitors have been admitted
in the past. A respite before chancing further assault. A time to fortify
and rest until safer from the threat of the "final straw".
Then yet another someone goes and dies on you... There is no blocking that
out.
There is no "not noticing" the lack of them.
One would think the pain would be ameliorated by the fact that so much time
is spent in mourning (the disconnection from) the still living, but
apparently it isn't.
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| User: "metta" |
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| Title: Re: Too Much or Too Little |
14 Dec 2004 06:36:18 PM |
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"K i l l e d * S p i r i t" <x-no-archive: yes@noarchive.com.com> wrote in
message news:8Vtvd.4158$N%6.2944@trnddc05...
It had to do with the loss of Robert, and the fact that things seemed to
be
going along as usual for some of the people, while others of us were in
quite a bit of pain.
I was thinking about the differences in the people.
That possibly some have an inability to experience the emotions described
(something I could offer sympathy for, but not empathize with).
Something HAS happened. And I do not like it at all. It feels quite
dreadful.
so for those of us who have no idea what you're talking about... can you
post a thread title or something?
-kelly
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| User: "metta" |
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| Title: Re: Too Much or Too Little |
14 Dec 2004 06:50:43 PM |
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"metta" <culprit@flashmail.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:329f83F3j7homU1@individual.net...
can you post a thread title or something?
nevermind, i found it. sorry.
-kelly
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| User: "harpy" |
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| Title: Re: Too Much or Too Little |
14 Dec 2004 03:20:13 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 04:23:32 GMT, "K i l l e d * S p i r i t"
<x-no-archive: yes@noarchive.com.com> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
"harpy" <harpyhapps@happs.net> wrote in message
news:cdlsr0d0ivlt4gohn31c899qe9m4i1qm0u@4ax.com...
| so..what one do you need most?
| you sent this in..you must need sympathy..love..help?
| which?
| or attention?
| its most likely one of the above.
| give a yell if you need to!
| harpy
It had to do with the loss of Robert, and the fact that things seemed to be
going along as usual for some of the people, while others of us were in
quite a bit of pain.
I was thinking about the differences in the people.
That possibly some have an inability to experience the emotions described
(something I could offer sympathy for, but not empathize with).
My first reaction was shock and disbelief. Normal stuff..
After the reality of it sank in, and the next stages were on their way, it
began to bother me that the Vindictive Narcissists Periodic Cleansing of
ASD-med is underway!", and other unpleasant threads were continuing, as
though nothing had happened.
Something HAS happened. And I do not like it at all. It feels quite
dreadful.
I suppose the post was a cryptic or possibly somewhat goofy way of
expressing that.
-----------------
A more direct answer to your question would be, probably all of the
mentioned items, but I am somewhat more comfortable offering/expressing such
things than accepting them.
- I am dropping alt.support.trauma-ptsd from this thread.
Whether because it is too triggery, or painfully therapeutic, I don't know.
Some need their walls - too many ill intentioned visitors have been admitted
in the past. A respite before chancing further assault. A time to fortify
and rest until safer from the threat of the "final straw".
Then yet another someone goes and dies on you... There is no blocking that
out.
There is no "not noticing" the lack of them.
One would think the pain would be ameliorated by the fact that so much time
is spent in mourning (the disconnection from) the still living, but
apparently it isn't.
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i fully understand what you are saying.
theres a guy who responded to nearly every single post made here and
now nobody feels like talking about it or him.
but thats natural "human nature"
i cannot condem anyone for thier lack of posting.
all i can do is offer to be here for anyone and i am.
and when we can get to the point of talking more about robert perhaps
we can all face it together.
this is not a thing that just passes us by.
i have lost so many freinds and family in the last decade its
rediculouse.
and remembering thier good (and bad) points helps me.
thanks and post back anytime
harpy
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