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21 Dec 2006 11:29:22 AM |
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Triumph of the Will |
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Alarm clock went off at 8:45, I got up. Struggled for about 5 minutes,
went back to sleep for another 15, got up again with the alarm clock.
Now I'm still up. I'd love nothing more than to go back to sleep, it's
cold right now and it's warm back in in bed and frankly I'm tired.
What does anyone think of the concept of "will"? Can you just push
yourself to do things you don't want to do, because you know it's better
for you in the long run? Dieting, exercising, quitting
smoking/drinking, etc... Why are some things so hard to do?
Last night, I got home late, and it was cold outside, ~41 F. I didn't
feel like running, I probably shouldn't run that late anyway, but I
decided I was going to do it. So I did. All I have are running shorts
and a light pullover, so it was freakin cold at first, my body was
telling me this was stupid, just go back where it's warm. But I stayed
at it, and eventually warmed up from running.
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| Title: Re: Triumph of the Will |
21 Dec 2006 12:24:12 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Alarm clock went off at 8:45, I got up. Struggled for about 5 minutes,
went back to sleep for another 15, got up again with the alarm clock.
Now I'm still up. I'd love nothing more than to go back to sleep, it's
cold right now and it's warm back in in bed and frankly I'm tired.
What does anyone think of the concept of "will"? Can you just push
yourself to do things you don't want to do, because you know it's better
for you in the long run? Dieting, exercising, quitting
smoking/drinking, etc... Why are some things so hard to do?
Last night, I got home late, and it was cold outside, ~41 F. I didn't
feel like running, I probably shouldn't run that late anyway, but I
decided I was going to do it. So I did. All I have are running shorts
and a light pullover, so it was freakin cold at first, my body was
telling me this was stupid, just go back where it's warm. But I stayed
at it, and eventually warmed up from running.
i think if you want it you do it if you don't really you don't
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| User: "cal" |
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| Title: Re: Triumph of the Will |
22 Dec 2006 04:20:07 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Alarm clock went off at 8:45, I got up. Struggled for about 5 minutes,
went back to sleep for another 15, got up again with the alarm clock. Now
I'm still up. I'd love nothing more than to go back to sleep, it's cold
right now and it's warm back in in bed and frankly I'm tired.
What does anyone think of the concept of "will"? Can you just push
yourself to do things you don't want to do, because you know it's better
for you in the long run? Dieting, exercising, quitting smoking/drinking,
etc... Why are some things so hard to do?
there are self-destructive things i've done because somewhere inside i liked
the idea of destroying myself. it came out in thoughts like, "oh well, if i
die, so what," and "cool, the sooner the better." when i changed my mind
about that, i was able to stop doing self-destructive things. when i change
back, i'm tempted to start doing them again.
i don't believe will-power works against what we really want to do in the
long term, although it works for short periods of time. to permanently
change undesirable behavior, we need to discover and resolve the motives.
when the subjective need for the behavior is gone, the behavior will go too.
Last night, I got home late, and it was cold outside, ~41 F. I didn't
feel like running, I probably shouldn't run that late anyway, but I
decided I was going to do it. So I did. All I have are running shorts
and a light pullover, so it was freakin cold at first, my body was telling
me this was stupid, just go back where it's warm. But I stayed at it, and
eventually warmed up from running.
you can do that. you just can't do it all the time. what the pros tell me
about exercise is: do something you honestly enjoy and isn't very hard for
you, because you'll quit doing everything else.
i don't know about running. i've known two guys who died while running. i
walk to work and back every day. briskly. i told my doctor i walk briskly
for about 90 minutes a day and he said, "that's all we ask." sometimes i go
to the gym and work out on the equipment. if i do it consistently for a
while, i get pretty good at it. but then it starts to get boring and not
fun. i like to ride my bike when the weather is ok.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: Triumph of the Will |
23 Dec 2006 12:55:04 AM |
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cal wrote:
i don't believe will-power works against what we really want to do in the
long term, although it works for short periods of time. to permanently
change undesirable behavior, we need to discover and resolve the motives.
when the subjective need for the behavior is gone, the behavior will go too.
Hm...this could get philosophical very quickly. I think there's
something to what you're saying. How do you explain people who quit
smoking or drinking? There is a physical element to the compulsion.
Your body is telling you to smoke and/or drink. I think on some level
you've just got to decide to stop and just stop. People don't like the
word "force", but, if you have the craving, the desire, and the means,
if you're going to do it, you're going to have overcome that craving &
desire. That can be hard to do sometimes.
Last night, I got home late, and it was cold outside, ~41 F. I didn't
feel like running, I probably shouldn't run that late anyway, but I
decided I was going to do it. So I did. All I have are running shorts
and a light pullover, so it was freakin cold at first, my body was telling
me this was stupid, just go back where it's warm. But I stayed at it, and
eventually warmed up from running.
you can do that. you just can't do it all the time. what the pros tell me
about exercise is: do something you honestly enjoy and isn't very hard for
you, because you'll quit doing everything else.
i don't know about running. i've known two guys who died while running. i
walk to work and back every day. briskly. i told my doctor i walk briskly
for about 90 minutes a day and he said, "that's all we ask." sometimes i go
to the gym and work out on the equipment. if i do it consistently for a
while, i get pretty good at it. but then it starts to get boring and not
fun. i like to ride my bike when the weather is ok.
I run because I genuinely enjoy it, and also because I want to lose
weight. I know I run well beyond the basic health benefits. I figure
I'll die sooner because I heard you get 2,000,000,000 beats for your
heart and that's it. If I'm running more, my heart rate goes up, I'm
that much closer to check out time. I don't know.
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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23 Dec 2006 03:51:42 AM |
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 06:55:04 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
cal wrote:
i don't believe will-power works against what we really want to do in the
long term, although it works for short periods of time. to permanently
change undesirable behavior, we need to discover and resolve the motives.
when the subjective need for the behavior is gone, the behavior will go too.
Hm...this could get philosophical very quickly. I think there's
something to what you're saying. How do you explain people who quit
smoking or drinking? There is a physical element to the compulsion.
Your body is telling you to smoke and/or drink. I think on some level
you've just got to decide to stop and just stop. People don't like the
word "force", but, if you have the craving, the desire, and the means,
if you're going to do it, you're going to have overcome that craving &
desire. That can be hard to do sometimes.
Psychologists say it takes about 21 days to change any habit. But habits
with physical components may take longer and are much harder. Depression,
having a physical component, may make all habits hard to change.
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| User: "Kirby Cook" |
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| Title: Re: Triumph of the Will |
21 Dec 2006 07:19:02 PM |
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What does anyone think of the concept of "will"? Can you just push
yourself to do things you don't want to do, because you know it's better
for you in the long run?
Since you just described doing this with a good result, I'll assume you
mean, as a regular thing. Why not? I just read again today the quote
to the effect that habit can be the most wonderful of servants or the
nastiest of masters. Habits can be cultivated, including the habit of
heeding the impulse to do yourself a favor without a lot of internal
debate. I seem to recall doing that with good results. <sigh> No, it
didn't last... Hmm, maybe bits of it did.
Kirby
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: Triumph of the Will |
21 Dec 2006 10:05:12 PM |
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Kirby Cook wrote:
What does anyone think of the concept of "will"? Can you just push
yourself to do things you don't want to do, because you know it's better
for you in the long run?
Since you just described doing this with a good result, I'll assume you
mean, as a regular thing. Why not? I just read again today the quote
to the effect that habit can be the most wonderful of servants or the
nastiest of masters. Habits can be cultivated, including the habit of
heeding the impulse to do yourself a favor without a lot of internal
debate. I seem to recall doing that with good results. <sigh> No, it
didn't last... Hmm, maybe bits of it did.
Kirby
Hmm...I think there's something there, Kirby. I wonder if it is simply
just deciding to jump in the cold lake, and do it often enough so you
get to the point where you don't think about it anymore. Is that what
you mean?
It's raining and cold and dark, but dammit, I'm going for a run right
now. Later!
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Triumph of the Will |
21 Dec 2006 10:10:06 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Kirby Cook wrote:
What does anyone think of the concept of "will"? Can you just push
yourself to do things you don't want to do, because you know it's better
for you in the long run?
Since you just described doing this with a good result, I'll assume you
mean, as a regular thing. Why not? I just read again today the quote
to the effect that habit can be the most wonderful of servants or the
nastiest of masters. Habits can be cultivated, including the habit of
heeding the impulse to do yourself a favor without a lot of internal
debate. I seem to recall doing that with good results. <sigh> No, it
didn't last... Hmm, maybe bits of it did.
Kirby
Hmm...I think there's something there, Kirby. I wonder if it is simply
just deciding to jump in the cold lake, and do it often enough so you
get to the point where you don't think about it anymore. Is that what
you mean?
It's raining and cold and dark, but dammit, I'm going for a run right
now. Later!
i wonder what he runs and runs and runs ... from
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| User: "spy vs spy" |
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22 Dec 2006 09:33:27 AM |
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Kirby Cook wrote:
What does anyone think of the concept of "will"? Can you just push
yourself to do things you don't want to do, because you know it's
better
for you in the long run?
Since you just described doing this with a good result, I'll assume you
mean, as a regular thing. Why not? I just read again today the quote
to the effect that habit can be the most wonderful of servants or the
nastiest of masters. Habits can be cultivated, including the habit of
heeding the impulse to do yourself a favor without a lot of internal
debate. I seem to recall doing that with good results. <sigh> No, it
didn't last... Hmm, maybe bits of it did.
Kirby
Hmm...I think there's something there, Kirby. I wonder if it is simply
just deciding to jump in the cold lake, and do it often enough so you
get to the point where you don't think about it anymore. Is that what
you mean?
It's raining and cold and dark, but dammit, I'm going for a run right
now. Later!
i wonder what he runs and runs and runs ... from
ASD.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: Triumph of the Will |
22 Dec 2006 12:17:32 AM |
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% wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Kirby Cook wrote:
What does anyone think of the concept of "will"? Can you just push
yourself to do things you don't want to do, because you know it's better
for you in the long run?
Since you just described doing this with a good result, I'll assume you
mean, as a regular thing. Why not? I just read again today the quote
to the effect that habit can be the most wonderful of servants or the
nastiest of masters. Habits can be cultivated, including the habit of
heeding the impulse to do yourself a favor without a lot of internal
debate. I seem to recall doing that with good results. <sigh> No, it
didn't last... Hmm, maybe bits of it did.
Kirby
Hmm...I think there's something there, Kirby. I wonder if it is simply
just deciding to jump in the cold lake, and do it often enough so you
get to the point where you don't think about it anymore. Is that what
you mean?
It's raining and cold and dark, but dammit, I'm going for a run right
now. Later!
i wonder what he runs and runs and runs ... from
Your betrayal with Slunky.
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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22 Dec 2006 12:59:32 AM |
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Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I've been trying to write something sensible about
"will" and all, but I haven't gotten it right yet.
There's a lot of slogans floating around, and book
titles e.g. the Low book I was looking for recently.
Sometimes one groks what the slogan means correctly
from hearing it, sometimes not, and the latter can
be grotesque if one perseveres on the wrong track.
I'd hate to see you despondent over any setback
you face in meeting your current goals.
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| User: "Kirby Cook" |
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22 Dec 2006 03:09:08 PM |
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Janithor wrote:
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Kirby Cook wrote:
What does anyone think of the concept of "will"? Can you just push
yourself to do things you don't want to do, because you know it's better
for you in the long run?
Since you just described doing this with a good result, I'll assume you
mean, as a regular thing. Why not? I just read again today the quote
to the effect that habit can be the most wonderful of servants or the
nastiest of masters. Habits can be cultivated, including the habit of
heeding the impulse to do yourself a favor without a lot of internal
debate. I seem to recall doing that with good results. <sigh> No, it
didn't last... Hmm, maybe bits of it did.
Kirby
Hmm...I think there's something there, Kirby. I wonder if it is simply
just deciding to jump in the cold lake, and do it often enough so you
get to the point where you don't think about it anymore. Is that what
you mean?
It's raining and cold and dark, but dammit, I'm going for a run right
now. Later!
There was a joke... I barely remember it, so, sorry. One man remarks
to another on the colds and flu going around. Second man answers that
he's never has a cold or flu in his life through the simple expedient
of taking a cold shower every morning. The first man responds, "Oh,
you took cold showers instead!"
I would have to be very sure that jumping in the lake would be the
best I could do, and I would be very hard to convince. What I had in
mind were the (my) internal exchanges like, "Why not hang that coat up
instead of just tossing it? ...Nah, later." Or, "Hey, interrupt what
you're doing for just a mo and give her a kiss and a hug and a smile
and an 'I sure love you, sweetie'. ...Ah, she's busy, and she doesn't
even like me much right now." On and on.
Congratulations on your run.
There is something I have wondered about. Looking back on times when I
was grim-jawed and stern with myself in forcing myself to do what it
seemed had to be done, I've wondered, couldn't I have spent the time
doing the same things with a light and cheerful heart and outlook?
Sometimes, I don't see why not. So I practice doing that now and
again, with mixed success. After all, it requires a, or sometimes
seems to require an, illogical or unreasonable discontinuity. Kind of
like forgiveness, which sometimes requires the same thing. But is *is*
something I can do, an actual change I can make in the world, just
because I want to. Just by deciding to. And practicing.
Kirby
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| User: "Janithor" |
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23 Dec 2006 12:48:56 AM |
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Kirby Cook wrote:
There was a joke... I barely remember it, so, sorry. One man remarks
to another on the colds and flu going around. Second man answers that
he's never has a cold or flu in his life through the simple expedient
of taking a cold shower every morning. The first man responds, "Oh,
you took cold showers instead!"
I would have to be very sure that jumping in the lake would be the
best I could do, and I would be very hard to convince. What I had in
mind were the (my) internal exchanges like, "Why not hang that coat up
instead of just tossing it? ...Nah, later." Or, "Hey, interrupt what
you're doing for just a mo and give her a kiss and a hug and a smile
and an 'I sure love you, sweetie'. ...Ah, she's busy, and she doesn't
even like me much right now." On and on.
Congratulations on your run.
There is something I have wondered about. Looking back on times when I
was grim-jawed and stern with myself in forcing myself to do what it
seemed had to be done, I've wondered, couldn't I have spent the time
doing the same things with a light and cheerful heart and outlook?
Sometimes, I don't see why not. So I practice doing that now and
again, with mixed success. After all, it requires a, or sometimes
seems to require an, illogical or unreasonable discontinuity. Kind of
like forgiveness, which sometimes requires the same thing. But is *is*
something I can do, an actual change I can make in the world, just
because I want to. Just by deciding to. And practicing.
Kirby
Response to the joke:
Are you basically saying the gain from just tossing your coat and not
being bothered with having it to put it away is outweighed in the long
run by the relief of having a neater and more organized room - that kind
of thing?
Response to the other part:
Again, something to chew on. You know, running started to become a lot
easier for me when I started running in places and at times that made it
a lot easier. I almost never run on the streets anymore. I run down by
the river, and it's like a secret get away from everything, I really get
recharged every time I'm down there.
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| User: "Kirby Cook" |
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23 Dec 2006 03:56:36 PM |
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Janithor wrote:
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Kirby Cook wrote:
There was a joke... I barely remember it, so, sorry. One man remarks
to another on the colds and flu going around. Second man answers that
he's never has a cold or flu in his life through the simple expedient
of taking a cold shower every morning. The first man responds, "Oh,
you took cold showers instead!"
Response to the joke:
Are you basically saying the gain from just tossing your coat and not
being bothered with having it to put it away is outweighed in the long
run by the relief of having a neater and more organized room - that kind
of thing?
You know, I didn't even make a connection between the joke and the
coat, at least not consciously. The joke was obsure to me for years;
now it's about choosing your discomfort, kind of like the guy who
swallows a live frog every morning secure in the conviction that
nothing worse will happen to him all day. But *you* made the
connection, and it fits, it seems to me.
Response to the other part:
Again, something to chew on. You know, running started to become a lot
easier for me when I started running in places and at times that made it
a lot easier. I almost never run on the streets anymore. I run down by
the river, and it's like a secret get away from everything, I really get
recharged every time I'm down there.
I'm enjoying a similar experience. The morning and evening dog-walks
in the snow on the hill that rises to a mountain behind us have become,
sometimes, the best parts of my day.
Kirby
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| User: "Judith Stillwater" |
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23 Dec 2006 10:45:25 AM |
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On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 06:48:56 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net>
wrote:
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in my headers
You know, running started to become a lot
easier for me when I started running in places and at times that made it
a lot easier. I almost never run on the streets anymore. I run down by
the river, and it's like a secret get away from everything, I really get
recharged every time I'm down there.
When I read your post, I was struck by how much willpower you have.
You are absolutely able to force yourself to do something you don't
want to do.
Do you ever keep a sleep journal? Like, what went on during the day,
what are you thinking when you go to sleep, what thoughts do you have
when you wake up before you want to. Is there something happening the
next day that you're worried about? Maybe you can find some patterns
to your sleep disturbance, and come up with solutions that fit for
you.
Just a thought.
judith
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21 Dec 2006 04:08:42 PM |
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Janithor wrote:
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Alarm clock went off at 8:45, I got up. Struggled for about 5 minutes,
went back to sleep for another 15, got up again with the alarm clock.
Now I'm still up. I'd love nothing more than to go back to sleep, it's
cold right now and it's warm back in in bed and frankly I'm tired.
What does anyone think of the concept of "will"? Can you just push
yourself to do things you don't want to do, because you know it's better
for you in the long run? Dieting, exercising, quitting
smoking/drinking, etc... Why are some things so hard to do?
Last night, I got home late, and it was cold outside, ~41 F. I didn't
feel like running, I probably shouldn't run that late anyway, but I
decided I was going to do it. So I did. All I have are running shorts
and a light pullover, so it was freakin cold at first, my body was
telling me this was stupid, just go back where it's warm. But I stayed
at it, and eventually warmed up from running.
If you find some awnsers, please let me know... I'm constantly
telling myself to do all these new patterns(thought and behavior
patterns)... but itws very tough to go from talking about it to doing
it, on a consistant basis... the thing about me is that I'll get really
excited about certain things, and may try it out for a short while, but
then I quickly lose interest when it changes from a fun fantasy/idea to
becoming a reality... will power, perseverance... those are important
concepts I guess, but often tough to put into practise... for me at any
rate...
-"Jordy"
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22 Dec 2006 02:15:39 AM |
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Triumph des Willens
(Triumph of the Will)
1934
Directed by: Leni Rienfenstahl
Produced by: Leni Riefenstahl, Adolf Hitler
Starring: Adolf Hitler, Hermann Goring, Nazi Leaders
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| User: "Kirby Cook" |
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21 Dec 2006 07:06:16 PM |
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Janithor wrote:
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Alarm clock went off at 8:45, I got up. Struggled for about 5 minutes,
went back to sleep for another 15, got up again with the alarm clock.
Now I'm still up. I'd love nothing more than to go back to sleep, it's
cold right now and it's warm back in in bed and frankly I'm tired.
What does anyone think of the concept of "will"? Can you just push
yourself to do things you don't want to do, because you know it's better
for you in the long run? Dieting, exercising, quitting
smoking/drinking, etc... Why are some things so hard to do?
Last night, I got home late, and it was cold outside, ~41 F. I didn't
feel like running, I probably shouldn't run that late anyway, but I
decided I was going to do it. So I did. All I have are running shorts
and a light pullover, so it was freakin cold at first, my body was
telling me this was stupid, just go back where it's warm. But I stayed
at it, and eventually warmed up from running.
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| User: "Brianversion" |
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21 Dec 2006 11:36:20 AM |
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Janithor wrote:
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Alarm clock went off at 8:45, I got up. Struggled for about 5 minutes,
went back to sleep for another 15, got up again with the alarm clock.
Now I'm still up. I'd love nothing more than to go back to sleep, it's
cold right now and it's warm back in in bed and frankly I'm tired.
What does anyone think of the concept of "will"? Can you just push
yourself to do things you don't want to do, because you know it's better
for you in the long run? Dieting, exercising, quitting
smoking/drinking, etc... Why are some things so hard to do?
Last night, I got home late, and it was cold outside, ~41 F. I didn't
feel like running, I probably shouldn't run that late anyway, but I
decided I was going to do it. So I did. All I have are running shorts
and a light pullover, so it was freakin cold at first, my body was
telling me this was stupid, just go back where it's warm. But I stayed
at it, and eventually warmed up from running.
I have heard, if you're not motivated, just begin to do it, and your
brain will finally catch up to your feet. You warmed up after running.
It's like that. I try. I stared at my trees for a month before I
finally trimmed them. Now I look out the window and say, ' dam, they
look good.'
brian
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| User: "kerfoker" |
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23 Dec 2006 10:28:44 AM |
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Brianversion wrote:
Janithor wrote:
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Alarm clock went off at 8:45, I got up. Struggled for about 5 minutes,
went back to sleep for another 15, got up again with the alarm clock.
Now I'm still up. I'd love nothing more than to go back to sleep, it's
cold right now and it's warm back in in bed and frankly I'm tired.
What does anyone think of the concept of "will"? Can you just push
yourself to do things you don't want to do, because you know it's better
for you in the long run? Dieting, exercising, quitting
smoking/drinking, etc... Why are some things so hard to do?
Last night, I got home late, and it was cold outside, ~41 F. I didn't
feel like running, I probably shouldn't run that late anyway, but I
decided I was going to do it. So I did. All I have are running shorts
and a light pullover, so it was freakin cold at first, my body was
telling me this was stupid, just go back where it's warm. But I stayed
at it, and eventually warmed up from running.
I have heard, if you're not motivated, just begin to do it, and your
brain will finally catch up to your feet. You warmed up after running.
It's like that. I try. I stared at my trees for a month before I
finally trimmed them. Now I look out the window and say, ' dam, they
look good.'
brian
That's the thing, just to get started doing something and then I find
myself having trouble stopping! Inertia.
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: Triumph of the Will |
21 Dec 2006 01:27:36 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:29:22 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
Last night, I got home late, and it was cold outside, ~41 F. I didn't
feel like running, I probably shouldn't run that late anyway, but I
decided I was going to do it. So I did. All I have are running shorts
and a light pullover, so it was freakin cold at first, my body was
telling me this was stupid, just go back where it's warm. But I stayed
at it, and eventually warmed up from running.
41° is cold?
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| User: "spy vs spy" |
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| Title: Re: Triumph of the Will |
22 Dec 2006 09:32:20 AM |
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:i0olo2trnmalnjj8m6una7gp7qcc1hd2bg@news.easynews.com...
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:29:22 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
Last night, I got home late, and it was cold outside, ~41 F. I didn't
feel like running, I probably shouldn't run that late anyway, but I
decided I was going to do it. So I did. All I have are running shorts
and a light pullover, so it was freakin cold at first, my body was
telling me this was stupid, just go back where it's warm. But I stayed
at it, and eventually warmed up from running.
41° is cold?
Not for a cheese head like you or a New England born girl like me.
(I intend no offence by "cheese head")
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: Triumph of the Will |
21 Dec 2006 01:33:57 PM |
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CyberDroog wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:29:22 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote=
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Last night, I got home late, and it was cold outside, ~41 F. I didn't =
feel like running, I probably shouldn't run that late anyway, but I=20
decided I was going to do it. So I did. All I have are running shorts=
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telling me this was stupid, just go back where it's warm. But I stayed=
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41=B0 is cold?
I've been in California for 8 years.
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| User: "spy vs spy" |
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| Title: Re: Triumph of the Will |
22 Dec 2006 09:32:38 AM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:458AE1A1.9060002@comcast.net...
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CyberDroog wrote:
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:29:22 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
Last night, I got home late, and it was cold outside, ~41 F. I didn't
feel like running, I probably shouldn't run that late anyway, but I
decided I was going to do it. So I did. All I have are running shorts
and a light pullover, so it was freakin cold at first, my body was telling
me this was stupid, just go back where it's warm. But I stayed at it, and
eventually warmed up from running.
41° is cold?
I've been in California for 8 years.
Wuss.
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