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10 Jan 2008 05:14:11 AM |
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Unable to concentrate or motivate myself... |
Been taking 45Mg Mirtazapine for about 8 months...
Not sure if its the drugs or the depression but I REALLY have
difficulty getting motivated to do anything especially in work.
Any suggestions?
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| User: "CJ Dunnaway" |
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10 Jan 2008 07:11:42 AM |
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"paulfoel" <BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eca021c6-29fc-4cc3-b819-489f1ee4c87d@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Been taking 45Mg Mirtazapine for about 8 months...
Not sure if its the drugs or the depression but I REALLY have
difficulty getting motivated to do anything especially in work.
Any suggestions?
I took Mirtazapine for a few years; it helped me sleep but did nothing for
depression. I had a physically demanding job and had trouble gathering up
the energy to do my work. I thought I was just getting old or something.
Then my pshrink switched me over to Zoloft and I had energy to spare. My
job became much easier to handle.
Even though your job is not physically demanding, I would venture a guess
that you are having a similar reaction. I think it's the meds.
CJ
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| User: "paulfoel" |
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11 Jan 2008 05:09:53 AM |
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On Jan 10, 1:11=A0pm, "CJ Dunnaway" <cj_dunnaway-n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"paulfoel" <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eca021c6-29fc-4cc3-b819-489f1ee4c87d@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Been taking 45Mg Mirtazapine for about 8 months...
Not sure if its the drugs or the depression but I REALLY =A0have
difficulty getting motivated to do anything especially in work.
Any suggestions?
I took Mirtazapine for a few years; it helped me sleep but did nothing for=
depression. I had a physically demanding job and had trouble gathering up
the energy to do my work. I thought I was just getting old or something.
Then my pshrink switched me over to Zoloft and I had energy to spare. My
job became much easier to handle.
Even though your job is not physically demanding, I would venture a guess
that you are having a similar reaction. I think it's the meds.
CJ
Hmmm. Yeh. I think its time to try another one.... Next on the docs
list is Effexor.
No so much as I dont have any energy I just cant get motivated to do
anything at all. Just cant be bothered. However, I'm also very edgy
and irritable. I go through phases of cant be bothered then will
switch to almost OCD-like 'I've got to do this'. Pretty
disconcerting...
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| User: "Rowland McDonnell" |
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| Title: Re: Unable to concentrate or motivate myself... |
12 Jan 2008 11:00:12 PM |
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paulfoel <BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> wrote:
"CJ Dunnaway" <cj_dunnaway-n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"paulfoel" <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eca021c6-29fc-4cc3-b819-489f1ee4c87d@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
Been taking 45Mg Mirtazapine for about 8 months...
Not sure if its the drugs or the depression but I REALLY have
difficulty getting motivated to do anything especially in work.
Any suggestions?
I took Mirtazapine for a few years; it helped me sleep but did nothing for
depression. I had a physically demanding job and had trouble gathering up
the energy to do my work. I thought I was just getting old or something.
Then my pshrink switched me over to Zoloft and I had energy to spare. My
job became much easier to handle.
Even though your job is not physically demanding, I would venture a guess
that you are having a similar reaction. I think it's the meds.
CJ
Hmmm. Yeh. I think its time to try another one.... Next on the docs
list is Effexor.
Eek!
Efexor has very unpleasant withdrawal symptoms which, from what I've
gathered reading this newsgroup, seem to affect *MOST* patients. The
quacks tend to completely ignore such problems, but the stuff I've read
in this newsgroup over the years! How about sweating and hot flushes
just for forgetting to take the second dose of the day?
If you start on that drug, you'll be wanting the Efexor XL modified
release version to keep you clear of risk of *that* sort of thing. I
personally wouldn't ever touch the stuff.
And I've not started on the list of `usual so-called side-effects which
seem to clobber rather too many people for them to be side-effects if
you ask me'.
I am no doctor. I haven't - and cannot - medically examine you. I
cannot recommend a drug for you. This drug is fairly new, and has a
kinder side-effect profile than citalopram, which it's a selected
isomer[1] of:
<http://www.bnf.org/bnf/bnf/54/106511.htm?q=%22escitalopram%22>
(free registration required, but it's the bloody BNF, they're not going
to use your details for marketing, honest, sign up, it's worth it)
No so much as I dont have any energy I just cant get motivated to do
anything at all. Just cant be bothered. However, I'm also very edgy
and irritable. I go through phases of cant be bothered then will
switch to almost OCD-like 'I've got to do this'. Pretty
disconcerting...
Yes. I wouldn't be surprised if that's down to the drugs they've got
you on.
Rowland.
[1] The modern terminology seems to be: `active enantiomer', but I've
so far refused to have anything to do with the phrase.
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| User: "cal" |
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| Title: Re: Unable to concentrate or motivate myself... |
10 Jan 2008 05:46:43 AM |
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On 1/10/08 6:14 AM, in article
eca021c6-29fc-4cc3-b819-489f1ee4c87d@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com,
"paulfoel" <BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> wrote:
Been taking 45Mg Mirtazapine for about 8 months...
Not sure if its the drugs or the depression but I REALLY have
difficulty getting motivated to do anything especially in work.
Any suggestions?
1) up the dose
2) switch meds
3) switch jobs
4) take some time off
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| User: "paulfoel" |
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10 Jan 2008 06:02:29 AM |
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On Jan 10, 11:46=A0am, cal <cal1...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/10/08 6:14 AM, in article
eca021c6-29fc-4cc3-b819-489f1ee4c...@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com,
"paulfoel" <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
Been taking 45Mg Mirtazapine for about 8 months...
Not sure if its the drugs or the depression but I REALLY =A0have
difficulty getting motivated to do anything especially in work.
Any suggestions?
1) up the dose
2) switch meds
3) switch jobs
4) take some time off
1) 45Mg is the max dose (here in the UK anyway)
2) Next med to try is Effexor according to doc
3) Worth considering
4) Hmmm. Had a few months off last Summer so want to do this as last
resort only if poss.
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| User: "cal" |
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11 Jan 2008 09:01:13 AM |
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On 1/10/08 7:02 AM, in article
572cd7d0-6c30-4ae2-a124-7143e2e525a4@i72g2000hsd.googlegroups.com,
"paulfoel" <BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jan 10, 11:46 am, cal <cal1...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 1/10/08 6:14 AM, in article
eca021c6-29fc-4cc3-b819-489f1ee4c...@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com,
"paulfoel" <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
Been taking 45Mg Mirtazapine for about 8 months...
Not sure if its the drugs or the depression but I REALLY have
difficulty getting motivated to do anything especially in work.
Any suggestions?
1) up the dose
2) switch meds
3) switch jobs
4) take some time off
1) 45Mg is the max dose (here in the UK anyway)
right. i see now it's the one we call remeron here. so much for that then.
2) Next med to try is Effexor according to doc
well, one of them will probably end up working for you at the right dose. it
can be an odyssey though. the one that works for me is buproprion-sr
(generic wellbutrin), which works on dopamine reuptake rather than serotonin
reuptake. i fared badly on the SSRI concoction i was once on for a year
(zoloft), and after i heard that the side effects that bugged me were
potentially common to all of them, i decided to get out of the SSRI family
completely. for me it was the right move.
3) Worth considering
4) Hmmm. Had a few months off last Summer so want to do this as last
resort only if poss.
12 years ago i went nuts at work and pulled 10 months of paid disability.
maybe try something along those lines. (kidding)
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| User: "paulfoel" |
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12 Jan 2008 03:21:45 PM |
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well, one of them will probably end up working for you at the right dose. it
can be an odyssey though. the one that works for me is buproprion-sr
(generic wellbutrin), which works on dopamine reuptake rather than serotonin
reuptake. i fared badly on the SSRI concoction i was once on for a year
(zoloft), and after i heard that the side effects that bugged me were
potentially common to all of them, i decided to get out of the SSRI family
completely. for me it was the right move.
Unfortnately, I dont think Buproprion is registered for use to treat
depression here in the UK. (It is for stopping smoking called Zyban)
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| User: "Rowland McDonnell" |
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12 Jan 2008 10:49:58 PM |
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paulfoel <BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> wrote:
well, one of them will probably end up working for you at the right dose. it
can be an odyssey though. the one that works for me is buproprion-sr
(generic wellbutrin), which works on dopamine reuptake rather than serotonin
reuptake. i fared badly on the SSRI concoction i was once on for a year
(zoloft), and after i heard that the side effects that bugged me were
potentially common to all of them, i decided to get out of the SSRI family
completely. for me it was the right move.
Unfortnately, I dont think Buproprion is registered for use to treat
depression here in the UK. (It is for stopping smoking called Zyban)
But UK doctors, so I gather, are more willing to risk prescribing drugs
`off licence' (if that's the right phrase) than are doctors in
litigation-happy countries like the USA. So given that the drug's
available on the NHS, you might find it possible to talk your GP into
prescribing it if it seemed like a good idea to you.
I've had amitryptiline (antidepressant) prescribed for pain relief -
it's not licensed for that job at all in the UK (and only any good for
certain kinds of nerve pain that yer typical painkiller does nothing at
all for).
Rowland.
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| User: "paulfoel" |
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13 Jan 2008 04:43:07 AM |
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On Jan 13, 4:49 am, real-address-in-...@flur.bltigibbet (Rowland
McDonnell) wrote:
paulfoel <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
well, one of them will probably end up working for you at the right dose. it
can be an odyssey though. the one that works for me is buproprion-sr
(generic wellbutrin), which works on dopamine reuptake rather than serotonin
reuptake. i fared badly on the SSRI concoction i was once on for a year
(zoloft), and after i heard that the side effects that bugged me were
potentially common to all of them, i decided to get out of the SSRI family
completely. for me it was the right move.
Unfortnately, I dont think Buproprion is registered for use to treat
depression here in the UK. (It is for stopping smoking called Zyban)
But UK doctors, so I gather, are more willing to risk prescribing drugs
`off licence' (if that's the right phrase) than are doctors in
litigation-happy countries like the USA. So given that the drug's
available on the NHS, you might find it possible to talk your GP into
prescribing it if it seemed like a good idea to you.
I've had amitryptiline (antidepressant) prescribed for pain relief -
it's not licensed for that job at all in the UK (and only any good for
certain kinds of nerve pain that yer typical painkiller does nothing at
all for).
Rowland.
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Depends. Some will prescribe off-label but in my experience most wont
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| User: "Rowland McDonnell" |
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13 Jan 2008 04:22:49 PM |
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paulfoel <BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> wrote:
(Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
paulfoel <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
well, one of them will probably end up working for you at the right
dose. it can be an odyssey though. the one that works for me is
buproprion-sr (generic wellbutrin), which works on dopamine reuptake
rather than serotonin reuptake. i fared badly on the SSRI concoction
i was once on for a year (zoloft), and after i heard that the side
effects that bugged me were potentially common to all of them, i
decided to get out of the SSRI family completely. for me it was the
right move.
Unfortnately, I dont think Buproprion is registered for use to treat
depression here in the UK. (It is for stopping smoking called Zyban)
But UK doctors, so I gather, are more willing to risk prescribing drugs
`off licence' (if that's the right phrase) than are doctors in
litigation-happy countries like the USA. So given that the drug's
available on the NHS, you might find it possible to talk your GP into
prescribing it if it seemed like a good idea to you.
I've had amitryptiline (antidepressant) prescribed for pain relief -
it's not licensed for that job at all in the UK (and only any good for
certain kinds of nerve pain that yer typical painkiller does nothing at
all for).
[snip]
Depends. Some will prescribe off-label but in my experience most wont
In my experience, most are happy to do so when I have asked them. All
of them I can recall asking, in fact. The only time I recall a `no' was
a request for St John's Wort, and that only because the quack thought a
different drug would be the right thing and anyway it was a lot of
bother filling in the special form to get funding for something not in
the standard drug books at all.
I suppose it all depends on how you ask. FWIW, the amitryptiline was
offered to me; I didn't ask, and that was off-licence. It seems to be
fairly standard to offer it for nerve pain.
Rowland.
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14 Jan 2008 08:05:33 AM |
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On Jan 13, 10:22 pm, real-address-in-...@flur.bltigibbet (Rowland
McDonnell) wrote:
paulfoel <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
(Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
paulfoel <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
well, one of them will probably end up working for you at the right
dose. it can be an odyssey though. the one that works for me is
buproprion-sr (generic wellbutrin), which works on dopamine reuptake
rather than serotonin reuptake. i fared badly on the SSRI concoction
i was once on for a year (zoloft), and after i heard that the side
effects that bugged me were potentially common to all of them, i
decided to get out of the SSRI family completely. for me it was the
right move.
Unfortnately, I dont think Buproprion is registered for use to treat
depression here in the UK. (It is for stopping smoking called Zyban)
But UK doctors, so I gather, are more willing to risk prescribing drugs
`off licence' (if that's the right phrase) than are doctors in
litigation-happy countries like the USA. So given that the drug's
available on the NHS, you might find it possible to talk your GP into
prescribing it if it seemed like a good idea to you.
I've had amitryptiline (antidepressant) prescribed for pain relief -
it's not licensed for that job at all in the UK (and only any good for
certain kinds of nerve pain that yer typical painkiller does nothing at
all for).
[snip]
Depends. Some will prescribe off-label but in my experience most wont
In my experience, most are happy to do so when I have asked them. All
of them I can recall asking, in fact. The only time I recall a `no' was
a request for St John's Wort, and that only because the quack thought a
different drug would be the right thing and anyway it was a lot of
bother filling in the special form to get funding for something not in
the standard drug books at all.
I suppose it all depends on how you ask. FWIW, the amitryptiline was
offered to me; I didn't ask, and that was off-licence. It seems to be
fairly standard to offer it for nerve pain.
Rowland.
Rowland,
Going to visit my doc today and ask for effexor on top of the
mirtazapine I'm already taking...
I think its going to be tough because he wants me to either stay on
mirtazapine or stop taking and go on effexor...
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| User: "Rowland McDonnell" |
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14 Jan 2008 07:47:51 PM |
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paulfoel <BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> wrote:
(Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
paulfoel <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
Going to visit my doc today and ask for effexor on top of the
mirtazapine I'm already taking...
Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
I think its going to be tough because he wants me to either stay on
mirtazapine or stop taking and go on effexor...
If you're in the UK, it's Efexor (venlafaxine); Effexor is the US
tradename. Don't ask me why.
But aside from that: I'm not surprised that's what he wants. It's the
sensible thing to do from what I've read, and what you want goes against
the guidelines.
Rowland.
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| User: "paulfoel" |
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15 Jan 2008 07:36:12 AM |
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On Jan 15, 1:47=A0am, real-address-in-...@flur.bltigibbet (Rowland
McDonnell) wrote:
paulfoel <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
(Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
paulfoel <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
Going to visit my doc today and ask for effexor on top of the
mirtazapine I'm already taking...
Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
Yes, but there has been research to suggest that a combination of the
two can be worthwhile....
Apparently, the combo is nicknamed California Rocket Fuel !!!!
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| User: "Rowland McDonnell" |
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15 Jan 2008 11:22:53 AM |
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paulfoel <BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> wrote:
(Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
paulfoel <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
(Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
paulfoel <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snip]
Going to visit my doc today and ask for effexor on top of the
mirtazapine I'm already taking...
Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
Yes, but there has been research to suggest that a combination of the
two can be worthwhile....
And there's also evidence that a lot of people are given far too much in
the way of psychotropic drugs especially in combination to the extent
that it causes them harm. Which is why the BNF recommends against
mixing antidepressants in the general case.
Apparently, the combo is nicknamed California Rocket Fuel !!!!
That name is enough to make me very sure that I'll never take such a
combination. Mind you, I'll never take venlafaxine/Efexor because of
the withdrawal problems, amongst other things.
Rowland.
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16 Jan 2008 07:11:19 AM |
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And there's also evidence that a lot of people are given far too much in
the way of psychotropic drugs especially in combination to the extent
that it causes them harm. =A0Which is why the BNF recommends against
mixing antidepressants in the general case.
I did wonder if thats what the BNF recommends...
Apparently, the combo is nicknamed California Rocket Fuel !!!!
That name is enough to make me very sure that I'll =A0never take such a
combination. =A0Mind you, I'll never take venlafaxine/Efexor because of
the withdrawal problems, amongst other things.
Sounds OK to me. :-)
In terms of whether or not to take it - each to his own. However, if
nothing else works, personally I'd have no problems trying it.
Yes, there CAN be withdrawal issue but I think its a small price to
pay if it helps....
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| User: "Rowland McDonnell" |
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16 Jan 2008 09:27:01 PM |
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paulfoel <BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> wrote:
And there's also evidence that a lot of people are given far too much in
the way of psychotropic drugs especially in combination to the extent
that it causes them harm. Which is why the BNF recommends against
mixing antidepressants in the general case.
I did wonder if thats what the BNF recommends...
Last time I read the relevant section, according to my memory, it did.
<http://bnf.org>. Registration is free; you can read all the notes on
antidepressants yourself.
Apparently, the combo is nicknamed California Rocket Fuel !!!!
That name is enough to make me very sure that I'll never take such a
combination. Mind you, I'll never take venlafaxine/Efexor because of
the withdrawal problems, amongst other things.
Sounds OK to me. :-)
In terms of whether or not to take it - each to his own. However, if
nothing else works, personally I'd have no problems trying it.
Yes, there CAN be withdrawal issue but I think its a small price to
pay if it helps....
As you say, `each to his own'. I've told you what I'd do; you make up
your own mind.
Rowland.
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15 Jan 2008 05:44:40 AM |
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Talking of motivating oneself...
how many times a week do you all manage to actually get dressed?
LOL
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15 Jan 2008 07:35:07 AM |
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On Jan 15, 11:44=A0am, MadMazza <marinaCEL...@STICKukgateway.SPAM.net>
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Talking of motivating oneself...
how many times a week do you all manage to actually get dressed?
LOL
OK. Fair point. I know there are people much worse than me.....
Big hugs to you all !!!!!
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15 Jan 2008 07:44:17 AM |
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In article <03eab974-d2e9-4502-a765-
1d3f89f643ab@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
says...
On Jan 15, 11:44=A0am, MadMazza <marinaCEL...@STICKukgateway.SPAM.net>
wrote:
Talking of motivating oneself...
how many times a week do you all manage to actually get dressed?
LOL
OK. Fair point. I know there are people much worse than me.....
Big hugs to you all !!!!!
I wasn't having a dig....
Just curious as to who manages to get dressed....
Some days I can just about manage to get to the laptop via the bathroom!
LOL
HUGS
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15 Jan 2008 09:33:44 AM |
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On Jan 15, 1:44=A0pm, MadMazza <marinaCEL...@STICKukgateway.SPAM.net>
wrote:
In article <03eab974-d2e9-4502-a765-
1d3f89f64...@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
says...
On Jan 15, 11:44=3DA0am, MadMazza <marinaCEL...@STICKukgateway.SPAM.net>=
wrote:
Talking of motivating oneself...
how many times a week do you all manage to actually get dressed?
LOL
OK. Fair point. I know there are people much worse than me.....
Big hugs to you all !!!!!
I wasn't having a dig....
Just curious as to who manages to get dressed....
Some days I can just about manage to get to the laptop via the bathroom!
LOL
HUGS
MadMazza,
No problem....
Must be tough.
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16 Jan 2008 09:44:21 AM |
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On Jan 15, 1:44=A0pm, MadMazza <marinaCEL...@STICKukgateway.SPAM.net>
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Some days I can just about manage to get to the laptop via the bathroom!
=46rom tap dancing to lap dancing?
Evil Nigel
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On Jan 15, 1:44=A0pm, MadMazza <marinaCEL...@STICKukgateway.SPAM.net>
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Some days I can just about manage to get to the laptop via the bathroom!
=46rom tap dancing to lap dancing?
Evil Nigel
You've obviously heard about my pole dancing then?
;o)
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17 Jan 2008 01:14:03 PM |
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On Jan 17, 11:57=A0am, MadMazza <marinaCEL...@STICKukgateway.SPAM.net>
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You've obviously heard about my pole dancing then?
Polka? Mazurka? Polonez?
:)
Evil Nigel
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| User: "%" |
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17 Jan 2008 01:14:55 PM |
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On Jan 17, 11:57 am, MadMazza <marinaCEL...@STICKukgateway.SPAM.net>
wrote:
You've obviously heard about my pole dancing then?
Polka? Mazurka? Polonez?
:)
Evil Nigel
Hokey Pokey
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| User: "Matthew" |
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10 Jan 2008 07:52:31 AM |
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On 10 Jan, 06:14, paulfoel <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
Been taking 45Mg Mirtazapine for about 8 months...
Not sure if its the drugs or the depression but I REALLY have
difficulty getting motivated to do anything especially in work.
Any suggestions?
PLEASE GET ME OFF THIS LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| User: "the_dawggie" |
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13 Jan 2008 12:41:57 AM |
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On Jan 10, 10:14 pm, paulfoel <BertieBigBol...@gmail.com> wrote:
Been taking 45Mg Mirtazapine for about 8 months...
Not sure if its the drugs or the depression but I REALLY have
difficulty getting motivated to do anything especially in work.
Any suggestions?
If you can't get an interest in work, then it becomes a problem.
I don't take droogs, however you have to focus on what is going
on, it's a game, treat it is as such. The paycheck and the weekend
appear, that is all that matters.
Otherwise, yep it sucks.
I don't need to do it, however force myself to go to work, Health
care folk think it's good for me.
I'm not sure I give a *****. It passes the moments of life though.
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| User: "Rowland McDonnell" |
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10 Jan 2008 02:10:46 PM |
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paulfoel <BertieBigBollox@gmail.com> wrote:
Been taking 45Mg Mirtazapine for about 8 months...
Not sure if its the drugs or the depression but I REALLY have
difficulty getting motivated to do anything especially in work.
Any suggestions?
Yes. All antidepressants I've been prescribed except for nefazadone (no
longer available AFAIK) clobbered my ability to think or to concentrate
on anything. The same applied to pretty much all the psychiatric drugs
they've tried me on.
And given mirtazapine's list of side effects:
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<http://www.bnf.org/bnf/bnf/54/65192.htm?q=%22mirtazapine%22>:
Side-effects
increased appetite and weight gain, oedema, sedation; less commonly
dizziness, headache; rarely postural hypotension, abnormal dreams,
mania, suicidal behaviour (see Suicidal Behaviour and Antidepressant
Therapy), seizures, tremor, myoclonus, paraesthesia, arthralgia,
myalgia, akathisia, rash, and blood disorders including reversible
agranulocytosis (see Cautions above); very rarely angle-closure glaucoma
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I'd assume that most people taking that drug would be cabbaged out
(sedation is listed as a `highest incidence' side effect in a US drug
book I have; it's in the `>10%' category, which AFAICT in the case of
psychiatric drugs means `Actually, the majority gets this'). The medics
like prescribing pills like that, but I don't know why. It doesn't do
anyone anyone good to be cabbaged out long term.
Rowland.
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| User: "the_dawggie" |
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| Title: Re: Unable to concentrate or motivate myself... |
10 Jan 2008 05:27:17 AM |
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paulfoel wrote:
Been taking 45Mg Mirtazapine for about 8 months...
Not sure if its the drugs or the depression but I REALLY have
difficulty getting motivated to do anything especially in work.
Any suggestions?
If you have any, we are all ears.
I've sorta developed a method where I get into work
for a time, sit back, then get back into it. It's just
stuff that needs done. Take a distance from it, do it
in bits, get back to it. It's not painfull as such.
Other workers on your arse, no I would not know how
to deal with that.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: Unable to concentrate or motivate myself... |
10 Jan 2008 05:27:09 AM |
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paulfoel wrote:
Been taking 45Mg Mirtazapine for about 8 months...
Not sure if its the drugs or the depression but I REALLY have
difficulty getting motivated to do anything especially in work.
Any suggestions?
How's your environment? Do you find yourself more productive in some
settings than others?
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| User: "paulfoel" |
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| Title: Re: Unable to concentrate or motivate myself... |
10 Jan 2008 05:37:15 AM |
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On Jan 10, 11:27=A0am, Janithor <Janithor...@comcast.net> wrote:
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paulfoel wrote:
Been taking 45Mg Mirtazapine for about 8 months...
Not sure if its the drugs or the depression but I REALLY =A0have
difficulty getting motivated to do anything especially in work.
Any suggestions?
How's your environment? =A0Do you find yourself more productive in some
settings than others?
Very quiet in work - thats the main problem. The work that I do have
to do is pretty boring (documentation etc) and I just cant get myself
motivated.
I tend to be best when I'm doing something really important or taxing,
or when I'm under pressure to get something done.
However, dont know if its the depression or the drugs I'm taking (or
both) but I just cant motivate myself to do anything at all.....
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