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16 Apr 2006 08:21:28 PM |
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we were alike in some ways |
it's funny, we were/are a lot alike in some ways, weren't we,
aren't we? but we both didn't want to admit it... why couldn't you
admit it? I did admit it, I did know it on some level... but you didn;t
seem to want to know it... sometimes you make me so angry... we get so
angry at people who remind us of parts of ourselves that make us
uncomfortable... we both have some of the same problems, the same
difficulties... yet we come from different places, and we are going in
different directions... still, it's a gift, in a sense, to be working
through these issues, so in a way I'm grateful.. anyone could teach us
if we we are open to it... that's what they say, and it's true, even
though its definatly a mixed blessing... but why feel bad about having
mixed felings? it's normal, it's natural, certainly more natural then
only feeling one way... not that opposite feelings cancel each other
out, they don't, but they can coexist oin different levels...
-"jordie"
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| User: "jill" |
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| Title: Re: we were alike in some ways |
18 Apr 2006 10:04:09 AM |
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wrote:
it's funny, we were/are a lot alike in some ways, weren't we,
aren't we? but we both didn't want to admit it... why couldn't you
admit it? I did admit it, I did know it on some level... but you didn;t
seem to want to know it... sometimes you make me so angry... we get so
angry at people who remind us of parts of ourselves that make us
uncomfortable... we both have some of the same problems, the same
difficulties... yet we come from different places, and we are going in
different directions... still, it's a gift, in a sense, to be working
through these issues, so in a way I'm grateful.. anyone could teach us
if we we are open to it... that's what they say, and it's true, even
though its definatly a mixed blessing... but why feel bad about having
mixed felings? it's normal, it's natural, certainly more natural then
only feeling one way... not that opposite feelings cancel each other
out, they don't, but they can coexist oin different levels...
-"jordie"
Sometimes I think the whole world is just one big faliure to
communicate,
I did the family Easter event,,, everyone is much nicer to me
now. so whats the thrust here I was ***** then and I am not
now.....?? puzzled.
That and people just take a position. they don't say what they
really think. They take a position that is a response to how they
feel about you as a person. Dynamics. The problem with that is you
never get anywhere. You don't know what they think, they don't know
what you think, you are stuck having the same exchange over and over.
The words change but its really the same conversation over and over.
The one where they say I know what I know and you are stupid.... But
Hey Your family I love you ,, yeahh feels great ,,, whatever,,
Hi , alvin,, hope you had a good holiday, jill
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: we were alike in some ways |
18 Apr 2006 11:19:29 AM |
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jill wrote:
Icnh@hotmail.com wrote:
it's funny, we were/are a lot alike in some ways, weren't we,
aren't we? but we both didn't want to admit it... why couldn't you
admit it? I did admit it, I did know it on some level... but you didn;t
seem to want to know it... sometimes you make me so angry... we get so
angry at people who remind us of parts of ourselves that make us
uncomfortable... we both have some of the same problems, the same
difficulties... yet we come from different places, and we are going in
different directions... still, it's a gift, in a sense, to be working
through these issues, so in a way I'm grateful.. anyone could teach us
if we we are open to it... that's what they say, and it's true, even
though its definatly a mixed blessing... but why feel bad about having
mixed felings? it's normal, it's natural, certainly more natural then
only feeling one way... not that opposite feelings cancel each other
out, they don't, but they can coexist oin different levels...
-"jordie"
Sometimes I think the whole world is just one big faliure to
communicate,
I did the family Easter event,,, everyone is much nicer to me
now. so whats the thrust here I was ***** then and I am not
now.....?? puzzled.
That and people just take a position. they don't say what they
really think. They take a position that is a response to how they
feel about you as a person. Dynamics. The problem with that is you
never get anywhere. You don't know what they think, they don't know
what you think, you are stuck having the same exchange over and over.
The words change but its really the same conversation over and over.
The one where they say I know what I know and you are stupid.... But
Hey Your family I love you ,, yeahh feels great ,,, whatever,,
Hi , alvin,, hope you had a good holiday, jill
hi Jill. I hope you had a happy holiday too... the thing with me
is that my views, my mood, my perspective is always changing... it is
confusing... sometimes just reading something can change completly the
way I see things... I guess it's always good to get new insights... but
then you have to wonder, how valuable are the insights? how accurate?
maybe there is some truth to every insight, but only some...
perspective, proportion, context, balance... those can be tough to hold
onto...
-"jordie"
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| User: "jill" |
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| Title: Re: we were alike in some ways |
18 Apr 2006 12:49:48 PM |
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wrote:
jill wrote:
wrote:
it's funny, we were/are a lot alike in some ways, weren't we,
aren't we? but we both didn't want to admit it... why couldn't you
admit it? I did admit it, I did know it on some level... but you didn;t
seem to want to know it... sometimes you make me so angry... we get so
angry at people who remind us of parts of ourselves that make us
uncomfortable... we both have some of the same problems, the same
difficulties... yet we come from different places, and we are going in
different directions... still, it's a gift, in a sense, to be working
through these issues, so in a way I'm grateful.. anyone could teach us
if we we are open to it... that's what they say, and it's true, even
though its definatly a mixed blessing... but why feel bad about having
mixed felings? it's normal, it's natural, certainly more natural then
only feeling one way... not that opposite feelings cancel each other
out, they don't, but they can coexist oin different levels...
-"jordie"
Sometimes I think the whole world is just one big faliure to
communicate,
I did the family Easter event,,, everyone is much nicer to me
now. so whats the thrust here I was ***** then and I am not
now.....?? puzzled.
That and people just take a position. they don't say what they
really think. They take a position that is a response to how they
feel about you as a person. Dynamics. The problem with that is you
never get anywhere. You don't know what they think, they don't know
what you think, you are stuck having the same exchange over and over.
The words change but its really the same conversation over and over.
The one where they say I know what I know and you are stupid.... But
Hey Your family I love you ,, yeahh feels great ,,, whatever,,
Hi , alvin,, hope you had a good holiday, jill
hi Jill. I hope you had a happy holiday too... the thing with me
is that my views, my mood, my perspective is always changing... it is
confusing... sometimes just reading something can change completly the
way I see things... I guess it's always good to get new insights... but
then you have to wonder, how valuable are the insights? how accurate?
maybe there is some truth to every insight, but only some...
perspective, proportion, context, balance... those can be tough to hold
onto...
-"jordie"
It was okay ,, I got slightly buzzed on pale ale and managed to hold
my tongue when I needed too. I think thats one of the things thats
changed , I now realize that people believe what they need to believe
and when the facts don't fit they dismiss them,, sound cynical don't I
,, or wise,, its all in how you look at it I guess,,
question ,, can't you become so distracted by proportion and
balance,, by the relationship between things that you lose sight of
the thing itself ,, and once you have moved thru all the different
ways the idea effects other ideas,, ect, don't you find yourself
back at the beginning again,, isn't porportion and balance as a
changing possibility endless. I sometimes feel I get lost there.. I
try to find my balance and poportion and make it part of my identity
, if I can do that I feel like I'm growing a little. but if I don't
choose a balance and I get trapped in the endless possibilities I feel
like I am on the rack and they are tightening the screws up on me.
Was it TS Elliot who said something about the end being the event of
finding yourself back at the beginning and knowing the place for the
first time. that is not a direct quote but it is something like that.
Anyway I agree its confusing and its easy to get trapped in thinking
that doesn't lead anywhere I think, like the winchester mystery
house... where there are stairways that just stop .. and corridors
that don't lead anywhere.. Seems there was this rich eccentric old
lady that thought if she just kept building she would never die,,,,
great house.. like the inside of my head,,,,,,
always good to read your posts take care, jill
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