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Sociology > Depression |
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"lisa in mass." |
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21 Feb 2006 02:29:15 PM |
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wellbutrin and cymbalta |
has anyone tried this combination? i'd taken wellbutrin with
celexa in the past, and it was a bust. cymbalta's new enough
that i haven't tried it, especially in a combination.
my pdoc said that the big expert in boston recommended trying
this when the parnate poops out. wash out for two weeks, then go
to this combo. when it eventually poops out, go back to the
parnate. he said that this rate of poop-out is typical for mao
inhibitors. he also amended his earlier ceiling, and said we
might go up to 140mg on the parnate. the max recommended is 60,
and i'm on 120mg now. we decided, though, that this is as high
as we'll go. i already don't like taking so much.
anyway, if anyone's tried wellbutrin with cymbalta, could you
let me know what happened? curious about side-effects, etc.
thanks.
-lisa
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| User: "Nom dePlume nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com" |
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| Title: Re: wellbutrin and cymbalta |
21 Feb 2006 08:42:06 PM |
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"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97719D888E77mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
has anyone tried this combination? i'd taken wellbutrin with
celexa in the past, and it was a bust. cymbalta's new enough
that i haven't tried it, especially in a combination.
my pdoc said that the big expert in boston recommended trying
this when the parnate poops out. wash out for two weeks, then go
to this combo. when it eventually poops out, go back to the
parnate. he said that this rate of poop-out is typical for mao
inhibitors. he also amended his earlier ceiling, and said we
might go up to 140mg on the parnate. the max recommended is 60,
and i'm on 120mg now. we decided, though, that this is as high
as we'll go. i already don't like taking so much.
anyway, if anyone's tried wellbutrin with cymbalta, could you
let me know what happened? curious about side-effects, etc.
thanks.
-lisa
My only concern would be that you might get too much norepinephrine,
since both Wellbutrin and Cymbalta increase norepinephrine. However,
if you feel hyper, you can always reduce the dose of one of them.
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000/
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: wellbutrin and cymbalta |
21 Feb 2006 09:20:31 PM |
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Nom dePlume wrote...
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97719D888E77mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
has anyone tried this combination? i'd taken wellbutrin
with celexa in the past, and it was a bust. cymbalta's new
enough that i haven't tried it, especially in a
combination.
my pdoc said that the big expert in boston recommended
trying this when the parnate poops out. wash out for two
weeks, then go to this combo. when it eventually poops
out, go back to the parnate. he said that this rate of
poop-out is typical for mao inhibitors. he also amended
his earlier ceiling, and said we might go up to 140mg on
the parnate. the max recommended is 60, and i'm on 120mg
now. we decided, though, that this is as high as we'll go.
i already don't like taking so much.
anyway, if anyone's tried wellbutrin with cymbalta, could
you let me know what happened? curious about side-effects,
etc.
thanks.
-lisa
My only concern would be that you might get too much
norepinephrine, since both Wellbutrin and Cymbalta increase
norepinephrine. However, if you feel hyper, you can always
reduce the dose of one of them.
last time i was on wellbutrin, alone then with celexa, i felt
terrible. i'm willing to try it again, since i didn't try
cymbalta. if need be, i'll go back to effexor and remeron,
which wasn't great, but helped. the quick wash-out of the
effexor was truly awful, though.
-lisa
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: wellbutrin and cymbalta |
22 Feb 2006 03:56:15 PM |
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lisa in mass. wrote:
Nom dePlume wrote...
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97719D888E77mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
has anyone tried this combination? i'd taken wellbutrin
with celexa in the past, and it was a bust. cymbalta's new
enough that i haven't tried it, especially in a
combination.
my pdoc said that the big expert in boston recommended
trying this when the parnate poops out. wash out for two
weeks, then go to this combo. when it eventually poops
out, go back to the parnate. he said that this rate of
poop-out is typical for mao inhibitors. he also amended
his earlier ceiling, and said we might go up to 140mg on
the parnate. the max recommended is 60, and i'm on 120mg
now. we decided, though, that this is as high as we'll go.
i already don't like taking so much.
anyway, if anyone's tried wellbutrin with cymbalta, could
you let me know what happened? curious about side-effects,
etc.
thanks.
-lisa
My only concern would be that you might get too much
norepinephrine, since both Wellbutrin and Cymbalta increase
norepinephrine. However, if you feel hyper, you can always
reduce the dose of one of them.
last time i was on wellbutrin, alone then with celexa, i felt
terrible. i'm willing to try it again, since i didn't try
cymbalta. if need be, i'll go back to effexor and remeron,
which wasn't great, but helped. the quick wash-out of the
effexor was truly awful, though.
-lisa
Getting off effexor was the slowest thing I ever did, once I realized it
was causing all the weirdness I slowed down a lot and it was easy but
slow afterwards.
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: wellbutrin and cymbalta |
22 Feb 2006 04:30:03 PM |
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Franz Bestuchev wrote...
lisa in mass. wrote:
Nom dePlume wrote...
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97719D888E77mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
has anyone tried this combination? i'd taken wellbutrin
with celexa in the past, and it was a bust. cymbalta's
new enough that i haven't tried it, especially in a
combination.
my pdoc said that the big expert in boston recommended
trying this when the parnate poops out. wash out for two
weeks, then go to this combo. when it eventually poops
out, go back to the parnate. he said that this rate of
poop-out is typical for mao inhibitors. he also amended
his earlier ceiling, and said we might go up to 140mg on
the parnate. the max recommended is 60, and i'm on 120mg
now. we decided, though, that this is as high as we'll
go. i already don't like taking so much.
anyway, if anyone's tried wellbutrin with cymbalta,
could you let me know what happened? curious about
side-effects, etc.
thanks.
-lisa
My only concern would be that you might get too much
norepinephrine, since both Wellbutrin and Cymbalta
increase norepinephrine. However, if you feel hyper, you
can always reduce the dose of one of them.
last time i was on wellbutrin, alone then with celexa, i
felt terrible. i'm willing to try it again, since i didn't
try cymbalta. if need be, i'll go back to effexor and
remeron, which wasn't great, but helped. the quick
wash-out of the effexor was truly awful, though.
-lisa
Getting off effexor was the slowest thing I ever did, once
I realized it was causing all the weirdness I slowed down a
lot and it was easy but slow afterwards.
i got off of 375mg effexor over ten days. that was hell. they
wanted to get me onto the maoi as quickly as possible, so they
put me into partial for the quick taper so someone could
monitor me, then in-patient when the withdrawal symptoms were
too bad. it was probably the quick remeron taper that left me
unable to sleep more than an hour a night for nine months. at
least the maoi worked...
-lisa
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: wellbutrin and cymbalta |
24 Feb 2006 08:20:50 AM |
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lisa in mass. wrote:
Franz Bestuchev wrote...
lisa in mass. wrote:
Nom dePlume wrote...
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97719D888E77mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
has anyone tried this combination? i'd taken wellbutrin
with celexa in the past, and it was a bust. cymbalta's
new enough that i haven't tried it, especially in a
combination.
my pdoc said that the big expert in boston recommended
trying this when the parnate poops out. wash out for two
weeks, then go to this combo. when it eventually poops
out, go back to the parnate. he said that this rate of
poop-out is typical for mao inhibitors. he also amended
his earlier ceiling, and said we might go up to 140mg on
the parnate. the max recommended is 60, and i'm on 120mg
now. we decided, though, that this is as high as we'll
go. i already don't like taking so much.
anyway, if anyone's tried wellbutrin with cymbalta,
could you let me know what happened? curious about
side-effects, etc.
thanks.
-lisa
My only concern would be that you might get too much
norepinephrine, since both Wellbutrin and Cymbalta
increase norepinephrine. However, if you feel hyper, you
can always reduce the dose of one of them.
last time i was on wellbutrin, alone then with celexa, i
felt terrible. i'm willing to try it again, since i didn't
try cymbalta. if need be, i'll go back to effexor and
remeron, which wasn't great, but helped. the quick
wash-out of the effexor was truly awful, though.
-lisa
Getting off effexor was the slowest thing I ever did, once
I realized it was causing all the weirdness I slowed down a
lot and it was easy but slow afterwards.
i got off of 375mg effexor over ten days. that was hell. they
wanted to get me onto the maoi as quickly as possible, so they
put me into partial for the quick taper so someone could
monitor me, then in-patient when the withdrawal symptoms were
too bad. it was probably the quick remeron taper that left me
unable to sleep more than an hour a night for nine months. at
least the maoi worked...
-lisa
Zing, vrow...the Effexor sound effect was the worst side effect I had
during my withdrawal.
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| User: "Jesters mummy" |
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| Title: Re: wellbutrin and cymbalta |
24 Feb 2006 08:59:51 AM |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:20:50 -0700, Franz Bestuchev <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
<(((*>Zing, vrow...the Effexor sound effect was the worst side effect I had
<(((*>during my withdrawal.
I knew that Effexor withdrawal is supposed to be hell. I knew better than to go cold turkey without
a doctor's supervision. But I did it anyway, which goes to show that having a genius-level IQ does
not guarantee behaving intelligently.
Most people who go off Effexor have serious withdrawal effects. I was expecting it to be much worse
than it was, and I was prepared to go to the doctor for a new prescription if the effects became too
unpleasant.
I was very surprised to find that I had almost no withdrawal effects. I had slight dizziness and a
bit of ringing in the ears for perhaps a week. And then it went away. So I never got the new scrip.
When I told my doctor about it, she read me the riot act. I won't get away with this next time.
I DON'T recommend to anyone to do what I did. I was lucky. Horseshoes-up-my *****-lucky. The only
moral of my story is that with meds, YMMV.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: wellbutrin and cymbalta |
24 Feb 2006 09:06:25 AM |
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Jester's mummy wrote:
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 07:20:50 -0700, Franz Bestuchev <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
<(((*>Zing, vrow...the Effexor sound effect was the worst side effect I had
<(((*>during my withdrawal.
I knew that Effexor withdrawal is supposed to be hell. I knew better than to go cold turkey without
a doctor's supervision. But I did it anyway, which goes to show that having a genius-level IQ does
not guarantee behaving intelligently.
Most people who go off Effexor have serious withdrawal effects. I was expecting it to be much worse
than it was, and I was prepared to go to the doctor for a new prescription if the effects became too
unpleasant.
I was very surprised to find that I had almost no withdrawal effects. I had slight dizziness and a
bit of ringing in the ears for perhaps a week. And then it went away. So I never got the new scrip.
When I told my doctor about it, she read me the riot act. I won't get away with this next time.
I DON'T recommend to anyone to do what I did. I was lucky. Horseshoes-up-my *****-lucky. The only
moral of my story is that with meds, YMMV.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
I remember splitting open the smallest capsules and dividing the little
time release pellets into tiny piles of thirds and mixing that with
applesauce at the end. That may have been overkill but that's the degree
to which I tapered off after things started getting too strange for me
at the normal schedule. I would be sitting at the computer and trying to
chase down what fan/hard drive/speaker was making the funny noises.
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