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"Franz Bestuchev" |
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21 May 2006 01:06:48 AM |
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Which way to Kaaba? |
According to my handheld GPS unit the best route is the ~7600 mile trip
up and across the north pole, but it's also to the east of me. So which
way would one pray?
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: Which way to Kaaba? |
21 May 2006 04:12:12 AM |
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In message <4daebeF18o1toU1@individual.net>, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> writes
According to my handheld GPS unit the best route is the ~7600 mile trip
up and across the north pole, but it's also to the east of me. So which
way would one pray?
Ask any local Muslim.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Hussin" |
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| Title: Re: Which way to Kaaba? |
21 May 2006 03:23:38 PM |
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"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qQgDgYFs7CcEFwPo@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <4daebeF18o1toU1@individual.net>, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> writes
According to my handheld GPS unit the best route is the ~7600 mile trip up
and across the north pole, but it's also to the east of me. So which way
would one pray?
Ask any local Muslim.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
Since the Earth is spherical, the closest direction to the kaaba isn't
necessarily going to be what it appears to be on a map. From Upstate NY,
it's East North East, even though a map of the world makes it appear
southeast. Usually, the local mesjid can tell you what the correct direction
to face from that particular locale is. There are probably websites that can
provide this information as well.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Which way to Kaaba? |
22 May 2006 12:14:38 AM |
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Hussin wrote:
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qQgDgYFs7CcEFwPo@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <4daebeF18o1toU1@individual.net>, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> writes
According to my handheld GPS unit the best route is the ~7600 mile trip up
and across the north pole, but it's also to the east of me. So which way
would one pray?
Ask any local Muslim.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
Since the Earth is spherical, the closest direction to the kaaba isn't
necessarily going to be what it appears to be on a map. From Upstate NY,
it's East North East, even though a map of the world makes it appear
southeast. Usually, the local mesjid can tell you what the correct direction
to face from that particular locale is. There are probably websites that can
provide this information as well.
Hence my GPS directing me to take the polar route...
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| User: "gravity" |
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| Title: Re: Which way to Kaaba? |
22 May 2006 12:20:01 AM |
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Since the Earth is spherical, the closest direction to the kaaba isn't
necessarily going to be what it appears to be on a map. From Upstate NY,
it's East North East, even though a map of the world makes it appear
southeast. Usually, the local mesjid can tell you what the correct
direction
to face from that particular locale is. There are probably websites that
can
provide this information as well.
use a great circle map for ham radio. you can get bearings to all your
favorite religious sites.
Gravity
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Which way to Kaaba? |
22 May 2006 04:47:01 PM |
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gravity wrote:
Since the Earth is spherical, the closest direction to the kaaba isn't
necessarily going to be what it appears to be on a map. From Upstate NY,
it's East North East, even though a map of the world makes it appear
southeast. Usually, the local mesjid can tell you what the correct
direction
to face from that particular locale is. There are probably websites that
can
provide this information as well.
use a great circle map for ham radio. you can get bearings to all your
favorite religious sites.
Gravity
I have all the bearings I need
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: Which way to Kaaba? |
22 May 2006 12:56:28 AM |
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In message <4dcvluF19c8l4U2@individual.net>, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> writes
Hussin wrote:
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qQgDgYFs7CcEFwPo@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <4daebeF18o1toU1@individual.net>, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> writes
According to my handheld GPS unit the best route is the ~7600 mile
trip up and across the north pole, but it's also to the east of me.
So which way would one pray?
Ask any local Muslim.
Since the Earth is spherical, the closest direction to the kaaba
isn't necessarily going to be what it appears to be on a map. From
Upstate NY, it's East North East, even though a map of the world
makes it appear southeast. Usually, the local mesjid can tell you
what the correct direction to face from that particular locale is.
There are probably websites that can provide this information as well.
Hence my GPS directing me to take the polar route...
Where would we be without great circles? I used to know how to calculate
them, but, alas, it's all gone now.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "gravity" |
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| Title: Re: Which way to Kaaba? |
22 May 2006 12:21:01 AM |
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i dunno, i turn one of my stacked Yagis to Japan, and one to Europe. works
pretty well.
Michael
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Which way to Kaaba? |
22 May 2006 12:36:03 AM |
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"gravity" <gravityzrainbow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:44714b67$0$12167$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net...
i dunno, i turn one of my stacked Yagis to Japan, and one to Europe.
works
pretty well.
Michael
get a lenear , you don't get out
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| User: "Hussin" |
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| Title: Re: Which way to Kaaba? |
22 May 2006 08:31:35 AM |
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quite true. I once took a piece of string and checked the direction on a
globe and got that same polar route.
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4dcvluF19c8l4U2@individual.net...
Hussin wrote:
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qQgDgYFs7CcEFwPo@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <4daebeF18o1toU1@individual.net>, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> writes
According to my handheld GPS unit the best route is the ~7600 mile trip
up and across the north pole, but it's also to the east of me. So which
way would one pray?
Ask any local Muslim.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
Since the Earth is spherical, the closest direction to the kaaba isn't
necessarily going to be what it appears to be on a map. From Upstate NY,
it's East North East, even though a map of the world makes it appear
southeast. Usually, the local mesjid can tell you what the correct
direction to face from that particular locale is. There are probably
websites that can provide this information as well.
Hence my GPS directing me to take the polar route...
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Which way to Kaaba? |
22 May 2006 04:48:27 PM |
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Hussin wrote:
quite true. I once took a piece of string and checked the direction on a
globe and got that same polar route.
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4dcvluF19c8l4U2@individual.net...
Hussin wrote:
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qQgDgYFs7CcEFwPo@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <4daebeF18o1toU1@individual.net>, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> writes
According to my handheld GPS unit the best route is the ~7600 mile trip
up and across the north pole, but it's also to the east of me. So which
way would one pray?
Ask any local Muslim.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
Since the Earth is spherical, the closest direction to the kaaba isn't
necessarily going to be what it appears to be on a map. From Upstate NY,
it's East North East, even though a map of the world makes it appear
southeast. Usually, the local mesjid can tell you what the correct
direction to face from that particular locale is. There are probably
websites that can provide this information as well.
Hence my GPS directing me to take the polar route...
That's why all the U.S. ICBM detection stuff is up in northern Canada too.
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| User: "Hussin" |
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| Title: Re: Which way to Kaaba? |
23 May 2006 03:17:22 PM |
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I do remember reading about that some years ago during the cold war. Very
depressing thought, but then I was very depressed even then. A less
depressing example is that airplanes flying from the USA to Europe or Asia
tend to fly north at first to go south because the spherical shape of the
Earth makes that distance shorter.
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4depsuF19e87tU3@individual.net...
Hussin wrote:
quite true. I once took a piece of string and checked the direction on a
globe and got that same polar route.
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4dcvluF19c8l4U2@individual.net...
Hussin wrote:
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qQgDgYFs7CcEFwPo@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <4daebeF18o1toU1@individual.net>, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> writes
According to my handheld GPS unit the best route is the ~7600 mile
trip up and across the north pole, but it's also to the east of me.
So which way would one pray?
Ask any local Muslim.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
Since the Earth is spherical, the closest direction to the kaaba isn't
necessarily going to be what it appears to be on a map. From Upstate
NY, it's East North East, even though a map of the world makes it
appear southeast. Usually, the local mesjid can tell you what the
correct direction to face from that particular locale is. There are
probably websites that can provide this information as well.
Hence my GPS directing me to take the polar route...
That's why all the U.S. ICBM detection stuff is up in northern Canada too.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Which way to Kaaba? |
23 May 2006 09:47:16 PM |
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Well there was that one Korean airliner with the incorrectly set
autopilot, it followed the short route and that wasn't acceptable to the
Russians.
It's the main route all the airlines fly these days however.
Hussin wrote:
I do remember reading about that some years ago during the cold war. Very
depressing thought, but then I was very depressed even then. A less
depressing example is that airplanes flying from the USA to Europe or Asia
tend to fly north at first to go south because the spherical shape of the
Earth makes that distance shorter.
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4depsuF19e87tU3@individual.net...
Hussin wrote:
quite true. I once took a piece of string and checked the direction on a
globe and got that same polar route.
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4dcvluF19c8l4U2@individual.net...
Hussin wrote:
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qQgDgYFs7CcEFwPo@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <4daebeF18o1toU1@individual.net>, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> writes
According to my handheld GPS unit the best route is the ~7600 mile
trip up and across the north pole, but it's also to the east of me.
So which way would one pray?
Ask any local Muslim.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
Since the Earth is spherical, the closest direction to the kaaba isn't
necessarily going to be what it appears to be on a map. From Upstate
NY, it's East North East, even though a map of the world makes it
appear southeast. Usually, the local mesjid can tell you what the
correct direction to face from that particular locale is. There are
probably websites that can provide this information as well.
Hence my GPS directing me to take the polar route...
That's why all the U.S. ICBM detection stuff is up in northern Canada too.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Which way to Kaaba? |
21 May 2006 03:10:13 PM |
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Alan Harding wrote:
In message <4daebeF18o1toU1@individual.net>, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> writes
According to my handheld GPS unit the best route is the ~7600 mile
trip up and across the north pole, but it's also to the east of me. So
which way would one pray?
Ask any local Muslim.
I think they're as busy with the GPS in the backyard as I am, except
they get up WAY earlier than I do to be confused.
Hmm, I know there's a Buddhist worship center about 15 miles from here,
and a great Stupa about an hour and a half away. I haven't seen any
Mosques though. There's about 3/4 of one of those mega-Churches not too
far away, perhaps 10 miles. They're building a Synagogue in town - it's
kind of strange though as it's an ultra-orthodox Rabbi who came from New
York and this is not a conservative area.
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