Sociology > Depression > Why are depressed people afraid to face the facts about antidepressants?
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Sociology > Depression |
| User: |
"Fast Recovery" |
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19 Jul 2007 10:26:48 AM |
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Why are depressed people afraid to face the facts about antidepressants? |
It's clear from several studies that "active placebos" work as well as
antidepressants even when the drug companies use dishonest procedures
to slant the data their way.
http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/p000824.html
I used to be depressed years ago and when people told me to "pull
myself up by my bootstraps" I told them that I couldn't. The funny
thing is that I just hadn't learned how to do it yet.
Once I learned Cognitive Behavioral Therapy techniques and forced
myself with a lot self-"tough love" to practice them on paper every
day I realized that I was just lying to myself when I told myself I
couldn't.
As I faced my worst periods of depression and overcame them with the
simple and effective CBT/REBT techniques I learned, I gave myself more
and more confidence. (I've read at least 20 books on CBT/REBT if I've
read one and I've done the exercises on paper. Always looking for a
better way to challenge my irrational beliefs.)
I could do it, but I was just telling myself I couldn't and bringing
up any scientific evidence I could find to back up my irrational
argument. "I can't." That was just a "fortune teller error." I
didn't know I could until I did.
I've got a "chemical imbalance" wah, wah, wah. My depression is more
severe than others, wah, wah, wah. That was me! And it's a lot of
you too.
I made every excuse not to do the work and wasted a lot of time that I
could have spent getting better using CBT/REBT every day chemical
free.
You can do it! Start telling yourself you can and you will find the
means necessary to do it. Keep telling yourself you can't and trying
to come up with "scientific" excuses why you can't and you will waste
a lot of precious lifetime and endure a lot of unnecessary
unhappiness. I challenge any one of you to follow in my footsteps and
then tell me I'm wrong.
Some men have thousands of reasons why they cannot do what they want
to, when all they need is one reason why they can. - Willis Whitney
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| User: "humble life" |
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| Title: Re: Why are depressed people afraid to face the facts about antidepressants? |
19 Jul 2007 04:22:49 PM |
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Fast Recovery wrote:
It's clear from several studies that "active placebos" work as well as
antidepressants even when the drug companies use dishonest procedures
to slant the data their way.
http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/p000824.html
I used to be depressed years ago and when people told me to "pull
myself up by my bootstraps" I told them that I couldn't. The funny
thing is that I just hadn't learned how to do it yet.
Once I learned Cognitive Behavioral Therapy techniques and forced
myself with a lot self-"tough love" to practice them on paper every
day I realized that I was just lying to myself when I told myself I
couldn't.
As I faced my worst periods of depression and overcame them with the
simple and effective CBT/REBT techniques I learned, I gave myself more
and more confidence. (I've read at least 20 books on CBT/REBT if I've
read one and I've done the exercises on paper. Always looking for a
better way to challenge my irrational beliefs.)
I could do it, but I was just telling myself I couldn't and bringing
up any scientific evidence I could find to back up my irrational
argument. "I can't." That was just a "fortune teller error." I
didn't know I could until I did.
I've got a "chemical imbalance" wah, wah, wah. My depression is more
severe than others, wah, wah, wah. That was me! And it's a lot of
you too.
I made every excuse not to do the work and wasted a lot of time that I
could have spent getting better using CBT/REBT every day chemical
free.
You can do it! Start telling yourself you can and you will find the
means necessary to do it. Keep telling yourself you can't and trying
to come up with "scientific" excuses why you can't and you will waste
a lot of precious lifetime and endure a lot of unnecessary
unhappiness. I challenge any one of you to follow in my footsteps and
then tell me I'm wrong.
Some men have thousands of reasons why they cannot do what they want
to, when all they need is one reason why they can. - Willis Whitney
I did, you're wrong. I'm making choices to stick at it, tell me I can,
but still it all seers and dips.
My blood feels like acid, my soul feels like it is being sucked or
dragged to the floor, i can't walk with my back straight unless i put in
a lot of effort.
I fear you may have had some sort of negative pattern that imprinted
some sort of idea that you had no options. It's great that you've come
out of that. But I don't think your understanding is anything but a
form of perverse punishement in the end.
What if the problems are chemical. What about lithium users who go
through the floor if they come off. If you convince them you are right,
you may cause trouble.
Think carefully.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: Why are depressed people afraid to face the facts about antidepressants? |
19 Jul 2007 06:28:02 PM |
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In message <5ga30cF3euicvU1@mid.individual.net>, humble life
<humble.life@nospam.com> writes
Fast Recovery wrote:
It's clear from several studies that "active placebos" work as well as
antidepressants even when the drug companies use dishonest procedures
to slant the data their way.
http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/p000824.html
I used to be depressed years ago and when people told me to "pull
myself up by my bootstraps" I told them that I couldn't. The funny
thing is that I just hadn't learned how to do it yet. Once I
learned Cognitive Behavioral Therapy techniques and forced
myself with a lot self-"tough love" to practice them on paper every
day I realized that I was just lying to myself when I told myself I
couldn't. As I faced my worst periods of depression and overcame
them with the
simple and effective CBT/REBT techniques I learned, I gave myself more
and more confidence. (I've read at least 20 books on CBT/REBT if I've
read one and I've done the exercises on paper. Always looking for a
better way to challenge my irrational beliefs.)
I could do it, but I was just telling myself I couldn't and bringing
up any scientific evidence I could find to back up my irrational
argument. "I can't." That was just a "fortune teller error." I
didn't know I could until I did.
I've got a "chemical imbalance" wah, wah, wah. My depression is more
severe than others, wah, wah, wah. That was me! And it's a lot of
you too. I made every excuse not to do the work and wasted a lot of
time that I
could have spent getting better using CBT/REBT every day chemical
free. You can do it! Start telling yourself you can and you will
find the
means necessary to do it. Keep telling yourself you can't and trying
to come up with "scientific" excuses why you can't and you will waste
a lot of precious lifetime and endure a lot of unnecessary
unhappiness. I challenge any one of you to follow in my footsteps and
then tell me I'm wrong.
Some men have thousands of reasons why they cannot do what they want
to, when all they need is one reason why they can. - Willis Whitney
I did, you're wrong. I'm making choices to stick at it, tell me I can,
but still it all seers and dips.
My blood feels like acid, my soul feels like it is being sucked or
dragged to the floor, i can't walk with my back straight unless i put
in a lot of effort.
I fear you may have had some sort of negative pattern that imprinted
some sort of idea that you had no options. It's great that you've come
out of that. But I don't think your understanding is anything but a
form of perverse punishement in the end.
What if the problems are chemical. What about lithium users who go
through the floor if they come off. If you convince them you are
right, you may cause trouble.
Think carefully.
Why bother? It's a troll, and it doesn't follow-up responses. It could
be the Scientologists, but it's an unusual ploy for them.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "purpleveggie" |
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| Title: Re: Why are depressed people afraid to face the facts about antidepressants? |
21 Jul 2007 05:49:04 AM |
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On 19 Jul, 16:26, Fast Recovery <flyin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
It's clear from several studies that "active placebos" work as well as
antidepressants even when the drug companies use dishonest procedures
to slant the data their way.http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/p000824.html
I used to be depressed years ago and when people told me to "pull
myself up by my bootstraps" I told them that I couldn't. The funny
thing is that I just hadn't learned how to do it yet.
Once I learned Cognitive Behavioral Therapy techniques and forced
myself with a lot self-"tough love" to practice them on paper every
day I realized that I was just lying to myself when I told myself I
couldn't.
As I faced my worst periods of depression and overcame them with the
simple and effective CBT/REBT techniques I learned, I gave myself more
and more confidence. (I've read at least 20 books on CBT/REBT if I've
read one and I've done the exercises on paper. Always looking for a
better way to challenge my irrational beliefs.)
I could do it, but I was just telling myself I couldn't and bringing
up any scientific evidence I could find to back up my irrational
argument. "I can't." That was just a "fortune teller error." I
didn't know I could until I did.
I've got a "chemical imbalance" wah, wah, wah. My depression is more
severe than others, wah, wah, wah. That was me! And it's a lot of
you too.
I made every excuse not to do the work and wasted a lot of time that I
could have spent getting better using CBT/REBT every day chemical
free.
You can do it! Start telling yourself you can and you will find the
means necessary to do it. Keep telling yourself you can't and trying
to come up with "scientific" excuses why you can't and you will waste
a lot of precious lifetime and endure a lot of unnecessary
unhappiness. I challenge any one of you to follow in my footsteps and
then tell me I'm wrong.
Some men have thousands of reasons why they cannot do what they want
to, when all they need is one reason why they can. - Willis Whitney
*****
nuff said
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: Why are depressed people afraid to face the facts about antidepressants? |
22 Jul 2007 04:27:40 AM |
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In message <1185014944.269742.25300@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
purpleveggie <purpleveggie@googlemail.com> writes
On 19 Jul, 16:26, Fast Recovery <flyin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
It's clear from several studies that "active placebos" work as well as
antidepressants even when the drug companies use dishonest procedures
to slant the data their way.http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/p000824.html
<Snipette>
*****
nuff said
You could have said '*****, *****-sucking parasite', but maybe you're
right, and it would have been over the top.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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