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"Franz Bestuchev" |
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02 Nov 2004 03:15:07 PM |
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Wine decision - you help me... |
I've got my old favorite Concha Y Toro - Cab. Sauv 85/15% blend; Chilean
2003
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Barton & Guestier - Cab Sauv; French Languedoc region 2002
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: Wine decision - you help me... |
02 Nov 2004 03:47:43 PM |
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On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:15:07 -0700, "Franz Bestuchev"
<fbestuchev@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've got my old favorite Concha Y Toro - Cab. Sauv 85/15% blend; Chilean
2003
and
Barton & Guestier - Cab Sauv; French Languedoc region 2002
Most wines are camel ***** as far as I'm concerned. I like good old
Manischewitz.
Wow... I just hit send and the spell checker flagged "Manischewitz" and
suggested "Auschwitz". No *****. Forte Agent must be written by Nazis.
--
MORAL, adj. Conforming to a local and mutable standard of right. Having
the quality of general expediency.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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| Title: Re: Wine decision - you help me... |
02 Nov 2004 04:59:03 PM |
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CyberDroog wrote:
On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:15:07 -0700, "Franz Bestuchev"
<fbestuchev@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've got my old favorite Concha Y Toro - Cab. Sauv 85/15% blend; Chilean
2003
and
Barton & Guestier - Cab Sauv; French Languedoc region 2002
Most wines are camel ***** as far as I'm concerned. I like good old
Manischewitz.
I like Blue Nun--endorsed by the Pope.
But seriously, I'm more partial to sparkling wines. Moët et Chandon's
White Star is particularly fine IMVHO, even given the cost. And I've
found that even people who don't generally like wine or champagne really
enjoy White Star as well. Then again, I'm no maven of viniculture. But I
know what I don't like. And I don't don't like White Star.
Wow... I just hit send and the spell checker flagged "Manischewitz" and
suggested "Auschwitz". No *****. Forte Agent must be written by Nazis.
Hale vicktorey!
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Wine decision - you help me... |
02 Nov 2004 06:00:08 PM |
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My only real encounters with sparkling wines have been with actual
champagne, Dom Perignon. When I turned 16 we had a magnum of 1976 and then
at a dinner party last summer I split a bottle with friends before a couple
took off for Anchorage the next day.
Of course I wasn't footing the bill either time ;) Well, I put together the
dinner and supplied a bunch of sangria.
"Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote in message
news:41881136.2924FA4A@catlover.com...
CyberDroog wrote:
On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:15:07 -0700, "Franz Bestuchev"
<fbestuchev@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've got my old favorite Concha Y Toro - Cab. Sauv 85/15% blend; Chilean
2003
and
Barton & Guestier - Cab Sauv; French Languedoc region 2002
Most wines are camel ***** as far as I'm concerned. I like good old
Manischewitz.
I like Blue Nun--endorsed by the Pope.
But seriously, I'm more partial to sparkling wines. Moët et Chandon's
White Star is particularly fine IMVHO, even given the cost. And I've
found that even people who don't generally like wine or champagne really
enjoy White Star as well. Then again, I'm no maven of viniculture. But I
know what I don't like. And I don't don't like White Star.
Wow... I just hit send and the spell checker flagged "Manischewitz" and
suggested "Auschwitz". No *****. Forte Agent must be written by Nazis.
Hale vicktorey!
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| User: "gravity" |
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| Title: Re: Wine decision - you help me... |
02 Nov 2004 06:37:28 PM |
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Franz Bestuchev wrote:
My only real encounters with sparkling wines have been with actual
champagne, Dom Perignon. When I turned 16 we had a magnum of 1976 and then
at a dinner party last summer I split a bottle with friends before a couple
took off for Anchorage the next day.
Of course I wasn't footing the bill either time ;) Well, I put together the
dinner and supplied a bunch of sangria.
that stuff is very good. i tried the Dom Perignon regular and Rose.
now i stick to cheap Merlots, Syrah, and Korbel fake champagne.
michael
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: Wine decision - you help me... |
03 Nov 2004 12:29:49 AM |
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In message <cLVhd.262$Gm6.24@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, gravity
<gravity@example.net> writes
Franz Bestuchev wrote:
My only real encounters with sparkling wines have been with actual
champagne, Dom Perignon. When I turned 16 we had a magnum of 1976 and
then at a dinner party last summer I split a bottle with friends
before a couple took off for Anchorage the next day.
Of course I wasn't footing the bill either time ;) Well, I put
together the dinner and supplied a bunch of sangria.
that stuff is very good. i tried the Dom Perignon regular and Rose.
now i stick to cheap Merlots, Syrah, and Korbel fake champagne.
IMO, unless it's a very good champagne, a vintage cider tastes better,
for a fifth of the price or less.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Wine decision - you help me... |
03 Nov 2004 08:10:19 PM |
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"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:r5XWB0VdrHiBFw4
IMO, unless it's a very good champagne, a vintage cider tastes better, for
a fifth of the price or less.
I used to be able to go north of SanFran and get *great* cherry cider, boy
do I miss that.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Wine decision - you help me... |
03 Nov 2004 08:00:32 PM |
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On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 06:29:49 +0000, Alan Harding
<Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:
<(((*> In message <cLVhd.262$Gm6.24@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>, gravity
<(((*> <gravity@example.net> writes
<(((*> >Franz Bestuchev wrote:
<(((*> >> My only real encounters with sparkling wines have been with actual
<(((*> >>champagne, Dom Perignon. When I turned 16 we had a magnum of 1976 and
<(((*> >>then at a dinner party last summer I split a bottle with friends
<(((*> >>before a couple took off for Anchorage the next day.
<(((*> >> Of course I wasn't footing the bill either time ;) Well, I put
<(((*> >>together the dinner and supplied a bunch of sangria.
<(((*> >
<(((*> >that stuff is very good. i tried the Dom Perignon regular and Rose.
<(((*> >
<(((*> >now i stick to cheap Merlots, Syrah, and Korbel fake champagne.
<(((*>
<(((*> IMO, unless it's a very good champagne, a vintage cider tastes better,
<(((*> for a fifth of the price or less.
My mother in law if from the Champagne region of France. For
special occasions like New Years Eve she'll have genuine
champagne, but for everyday consumption she is quite happy with
sparkling white wine from Germany, Spain or Portugal.
Champagne is vastly over-rated. There are some California
sparkling whites that are very nice for a fraction of the cost.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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| User: "gravity" |
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03 Nov 2004 08:10:13 PM |
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waitingforgodot@samuel.beckett wrote:
<(((*> IMO, unless it's a very good champagne, a vintage cider tastes better,
<(((*> for a fifth of the price or less.
My mother in law if from the Champagne region of France. For
special occasions like New Years Eve she'll have genuine
champagne, but for everyday consumption she is quite happy with
sparkling white wine from Germany, Spain or Portugal.
Champagne is vastly over-rated. There are some California
sparkling whites that are very nice for a fraction of the cost.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
i didn't know there was such thing as vintage cider. i love woodpecker,
woodchuck, and hornsby, although i drink beer more often cause it's less
gooey.
i agree Champagne is probably overrated. it's just like wines, there are
several cheap California vintages that are great for almost anyone. i
believe Korbel and other non-French sparkling wines can be labeled as
Champagne in the United States. this causes me a bit of confusion
sometimes.
michael
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| User: "gravity" |
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03 Nov 2004 12:21:09 AM |
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Noon Cat Nick wrote:
I like Blue Nun--endorsed by the Pope.
But seriously, I'm more partial to sparkling wines. Moët et Chandon's
White Star is particularly fine IMVHO, even given the cost. And I've
found that even people who don't generally like wine or champagne really
enjoy White Star as well. Then again, I'm no maven of viniculture. But I
know what I don't like. And I don't don't like White Star.
yeah i think that's pretty good. my ex girlfriend loved drinking that
too. i think it's $40 a bottle, which is still cheaper than Dom at $100
to $250.
Dom is supposedly overrated and overpriced. but anyway, i thought White
Star was real Champagne not just sparkling wine.
michael
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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03 Nov 2004 01:00:07 AM |
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gravity wrote:
Noon Cat Nick wrote:
I like Blue Nun--endorsed by the Pope.
But seriously, I'm more partial to sparkling wines. Moët et Chandon's
White Star is particularly fine IMVHO, even given the cost. And I've
found that even people who don't generally like wine or champagne really
enjoy White Star as well. Then again, I'm no maven of viniculture. But I
know what I don't like. And I don't don't like White Star.
yeah i think that's pretty good. my ex girlfriend loved drinking that
too. i think it's $40 a bottle, which is still cheaper than Dom at $100
to $250.
Dom is supposedly overrated and overpriced. but anyway, i thought White
Star was real Champagne not just sparkling wine.
In the U.S. any sparkling wine can be called champagne. It's in France
that the term "champagne" is legally restricted to sparkling wines made
exclusively from grapes grown in the Champagne region of that country.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: Wine decision - you help me... |
04 Nov 2004 01:37:36 AM |
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In message <418881F6.5B2BE5C0@catlover.com>, Noon Cat Nick
<chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> writes
gravity wrote:
Noon Cat Nick wrote:
I like Blue Nun--endorsed by the Pope.
But seriously, I'm more partial to sparkling wines. Moët et Chandon's
White Star is particularly fine IMVHO, even given the cost. And I've
found that even people who don't generally like wine or champagne really
enjoy White Star as well. Then again, I'm no maven of viniculture. But I
know what I don't like. And I don't don't like White Star.
yeah i think that's pretty good. my ex girlfriend loved drinking that
too. i think it's $40 a bottle, which is still cheaper than Dom at $100
to $250.
Dom is supposedly overrated and overpriced. but anyway, i thought White
Star was real Champagne not just sparkling wine.
In the U.S. any sparkling wine can be called champagne. It's in France
that the term "champagne" is legally restricted to sparkling wines made
exclusively from grapes grown in the Champagne region of that country.
That's the case throughout the EU, at least. To be 'champagne' it has to
come from Champagne. There are lots of other EU sparkling wines, but
they can't call themselves champagne.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: Wine decision - you help me... |
03 Nov 2004 06:05:52 AM |
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On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 07:00:07 GMT, Noon Cat Nick
<chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote:
In the U.S. any sparkling wine can be called champagne. It's in France
that the term "champagne" is legally restricted to sparkling wines made
exclusively from grapes grown in the Champagne region of that country.
We also eat cheese from aerosol cans. No wonder the French freak out over
Americans...
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The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly
teaches me to suspect that my own is also.
- Mark Twain
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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03 Nov 2004 12:54:26 PM |
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CyberDroog wrote:
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 07:00:07 GMT, Noon Cat Nick
<chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote:
In the U.S. any sparkling wine can be called champagne. It's in France
that the term "champagne" is legally restricted to sparkling wines made
exclusively from grapes grown in the Champagne region of that country.
We also eat cheese from aerosol cans. No wonder the French freak out over
Americans...
Well, the French like berets, De Gaulle, Jerry Lewis, and bathing only
once every 90 days. (Then again, Americans like "Monty Python's Flying
Circus," so go figure.)
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: Wine decision - you help me... |
04 Nov 2004 01:38:43 AM |
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In message <pbiho05m97qhhsqn1gkgfq901367kf2u6o@4ax.com>, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 07:00:07 GMT, Noon Cat Nick
<chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote:
In the U.S. any sparkling wine can be called champagne. It's in France
that the term "champagne" is legally restricted to sparkling wines made
exclusively from grapes grown in the Champagne region of that country.
We also eat cheese from aerosol cans. No wonder the French freak out over
Americans...
The idea of aerosol cheese makes me feel ill. After years on an MAOI, I
lust for real cheese.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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04 Nov 2004 05:35:30 AM |
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Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pbiho05m97qhhsqn1gkgfq901367kf2u6o@4ax.com>, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 07:00:07 GMT, Noon Cat Nick
<chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote:
In the U.S. any sparkling wine can be called champagne. It's in France
that the term "champagne" is legally restricted to sparkling wines made
exclusively from grapes grown in the Champagne region of that country.
We also eat cheese from aerosol cans. No wonder the French freak out over
Americans...
The idea of aerosol cheese makes me feel ill. After years on an MAOI, I
lust for real cheese.
I've been on Nardil for 11 years. I've never had a problem eating any
kind of cheese, or any food or drink that MAOI users are warned to eschew.
Found it out by accident, really. Wasn't intentionally "playing with
fire"; I just forgot one day, only to realize hours later what I'd done,
and note that nothing bad happened. My pdoc said there are such people,
althought drs. have no idea why this happens. C'est la guerre.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: Wine decision - you help me... |
11 Nov 2004 01:03:33 AM |
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In message <418A1401.48A656B7@catlover.com>, Noon Cat Nick
<chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> writes
Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pbiho05m97qhhsqn1gkgfq901367kf2u6o@4ax.com>, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 07:00:07 GMT, Noon Cat Nick
<chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote:
In the U.S. any sparkling wine can be called champagne. It's in France
that the term "champagne" is legally restricted to sparkling wines made
exclusively from grapes grown in the Champagne region of that country.
We also eat cheese from aerosol cans. No wonder the French freak out over
Americans...
The idea of aerosol cheese makes me feel ill. After years on an MAOI, I
lust for real cheese.
I've been on Nardil for 11 years. I've never had a problem eating any
kind of cheese, or any food or drink that MAOI users are warned to eschew.
Found it out by accident, really. Wasn't intentionally "playing with
fire"; I just forgot one day, only to realize hours later what I'd done,
and note that nothing bad happened. My pdoc said there are such people,
althought drs. have no idea why this happens. C'est la guerre.
Assuming it's an MAOI thing, and not just Nardil, I may try some cheese.
Just a little, and we'll see how it goes. I don't get any strong
side-effects, apart from sleeping during the day - maybe that'll count
in my favour.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Wine decision - you help me... |
02 Nov 2004 04:08:02 PM |
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I drink red wine only because most other upset my stomach, white wine
included.
It's also a "different" drunk...warmer and more sociable. Maybe that's
***** but it's my impression.
Of course I can't "socialize" when she gets up at 1900 or I'll catch hell
until she goes to work at 2200.
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:nsvfo01e22dbjk7tromhbts3t4foigmm2c@4ax.com...
On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 14:15:07 -0700, "Franz Bestuchev"
<fbestuchev@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've got my old favorite Concha Y Toro - Cab. Sauv 85/15% blend; Chilean
2003
and
Barton & Guestier - Cab Sauv; French Languedoc region 2002
Most wines are camel ***** as far as I'm concerned. I like good old
Manischewitz.
Wow... I just hit send and the spell checker flagged "Manischewitz" and
suggested "Auschwitz". No *****. Forte Agent must be written by Nazis.
--
MORAL, adj. Conforming to a local and mutable standard of right. Having
the quality of general expediency.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "damaged outcast" |
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| Title: Re: Wine decision - you help me... |
02 Nov 2004 03:51:38 PM |
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well i used to be an alcoholic that drank bush light on a daily basis and would
find myself pissing on bushes and passing out in bushes. i was a total
bushwhacker in those days. so if i were you, i'd KERRY myself a bottle of grey
goose and enjoy the night. btw i was an alcoholic till the age of 40. dubya
once an alcoholic, you're always an alcoholic, they teach you that in AA dubya
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Wine decision - you help me... |
02 Nov 2004 04:06:09 PM |
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Grey Goose is great, my only hard liquor is vodka. But it's far too
expensive.
I learned all about the ways of the alcoholic in my DWAI mandated classes,
it was all they talked about. I was charged though with drugs, specifically
my psych drugs which I had kept in a small nalgene bottle because my
insurance delivers 90 days at a time via mail. No way do I want to cart
around all those drugs. But because it wasn't in the original script bottle
I got charged with that. It also didn't help that I failed a UA for pot. But
that only came to concern when I was assigned a parole officer.
F'ing expensive nightmare.
"damaged outcast" <damagedoutcast@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041102165138.16021.00000019@mb-m07.aol.com...
well i used to be an alcoholic that drank bush light on a daily basis and
would
find myself pissing on bushes and passing out in bushes. i was a total
bushwhacker in those days. so if i were you, i'd KERRY myself a bottle of
grey
goose and enjoy the night. btw i was an alcoholic till the age of 40.
dubya
once an alcoholic, you're always an alcoholic, they teach you that in AA
dubya
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: Wine decision - you help me... |
02 Nov 2004 04:05:40 PM |
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On 02 Nov 2004 21:51:38 GMT, (damaged outcast)
wrote:
well i used to be an alcoholic that drank bush light on a daily basis and would
find myself pissing on bushes and passing out in bushes. i was a total
bushwhacker in those days. so if i were you, i'd KERRY myself a bottle of grey
goose and enjoy the night. btw i was an alcoholic till the age of 40. dubya
once an alcoholic, you're always an alcoholic, they teach you that in AA dubya
My, you *are* damaged...
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SAINT, n. A dead sinner revised and edited.
- Ambrose Bierce
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