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30 Aug 2006 12:03:03 PM |
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Yippee! Med-triggered hypomania! |
I'm tellin' 'ya, it's always somethin'.
Unlike most Bipolars, I hate hypomania. It's agitating and
uncomfortable. This isn't of the pleasant, creative or
get-the-apartment-clean variety. I've adjusted all my meds accordingly
and it's getting worse. Don't see my regular doc. until late next
week. Calling the clinic is pointless.
I don't want to go back to the hospital.
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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| Title: Re: Yippee! Med-triggered hypomania! |
30 Aug 2006 01:00:14 PM |
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"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
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I'm tellin' 'ya, it's always somethin'.
Unlike most Bipolars, I hate hypomania. It's agitating and
uncomfortable. This isn't of the pleasant, creative or
get-the-apartment-clean variety. I've adjusted all my meds accordingly
and it's getting worse. Don't see my regular doc. until late next
week. Calling the clinic is pointless.
I don't want to go back to the hospital.
Oh, ugh, yuck. I know what you mean. My pdoc refers to the good get the
house clean kind as hypomania and the agitated, uncomfortable kind as
hypermania, so I too make the same distinction. And yes, it's gawd awful.
There were a couple times when I didn't think I'd be able to talk myself
down and it led to a panic attack that had me thinking I should go to the
hospital, but in that last moment, I managed to calm down and stayed at
home. Looking back now I probably should have gone, but well, you know how
it is. I don't blame you for not wanting to end up in the hospital again.
I found it helped to do normal things. Go for a walk or sweep the floor or
wash the dishes. I kept talking to myself...if you do a normal thing you
will start to feel normal again...over and over with other grounding talk
like breath deep, you'll calm down, you'll be alright, just sweep the floor.
Eventually it worked, but it was scary for awhile. I don't know though
Claudia, in hindsight I should have been paying attention to my fright and
flight response and gone to emerg. If what you're feeling gets worse or it
doesn't abate by tomorrow, or you're suddenly feeling panicky, I would go
the hospital rather than wait for the doc appointment. In the same
situation again I think I would have handled mine differently.
--
Rhi
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Yippee! Med-triggered hypomania! |
30 Aug 2006 01:00:17 PM |
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"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.com> wrote in message
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"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
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I'm tellin' 'ya, it's always somethin'.
Unlike most Bipolars, I hate hypomania. It's agitating and
uncomfortable. This isn't of the pleasant, creative or
get-the-apartment-clean variety. I've adjusted all my meds accordingly
and it's getting worse. Don't see my regular doc. until late next
week. Calling the clinic is pointless.
I don't want to go back to the hospital.
Oh, ugh, yuck. I know what you mean. My pdoc refers to the good get the
house clean kind as hypomania and the agitated, uncomfortable kind as
hypermania, so I too make the same distinction. And yes, it's gawd awful.
There were a couple times when I didn't think I'd be able to talk myself
down and it led to a panic attack that had me thinking I should go to the
hospital, but in that last moment, I managed to calm down and stayed at
home. Looking back now I probably should have gone, but well, you know
how
it is. I don't blame you for not wanting to end up in the hospital again.
I found it helped to do normal things. Go for a walk or sweep the floor
or
wash the dishes. I kept talking to myself...if you do a normal thing you
will start to feel normal again...over and over with other grounding talk
like breath deep, you'll calm down, you'll be alright, just sweep the
floor.
Eventually it worked, but it was scary for awhile. I don't know though
Claudia, in hindsight I should have been paying attention to my fright and
flight response and gone to emerg. If what you're feeling gets worse or
it
doesn't abate by tomorrow, or you're suddenly feeling panicky, I would go
the hospital rather than wait for the doc appointment. In the same
situation again I think I would have handled mine differently.
--
Rhi
you'd be rubber roomed at the Credit Valley Hosp
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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| Title: Re: Yippee! Med-triggered hypomania! |
30 Aug 2006 02:39:12 PM |
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.com> wrote in message
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"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
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I'm tellin' 'ya, it's always somethin'.
Unlike most Bipolars, I hate hypomania. It's agitating and
uncomfortable. This isn't of the pleasant, creative or
get-the-apartment-clean variety. I've adjusted all my meds accordingly
and it's getting worse. Don't see my regular doc. until late next
week. Calling the clinic is pointless.
I don't want to go back to the hospital.
Oh, ugh, yuck. I know what you mean. My pdoc refers to the good get
the
house clean kind as hypomania and the agitated, uncomfortable kind as
hypermania, so I too make the same distinction. And yes, it's gawd
awful.
There were a couple times when I didn't think I'd be able to talk myself
down and it led to a panic attack that had me thinking I should go to
the
hospital, but in that last moment, I managed to calm down and stayed at
home. Looking back now I probably should have gone, but well, you know
how
it is. I don't blame you for not wanting to end up in the hospital
again.
I found it helped to do normal things. Go for a walk or sweep the floor
or
wash the dishes. I kept talking to myself...if you do a normal thing
you
will start to feel normal again...over and over with other grounding
talk
like breath deep, you'll calm down, you'll be alright, just sweep the
floor.
Eventually it worked, but it was scary for awhile. I don't know though
Claudia, in hindsight I should have been paying attention to my fright
and
flight response and gone to emerg. If what you're feeling gets worse or
it
doesn't abate by tomorrow, or you're suddenly feeling panicky, I would
go
the hospital rather than wait for the doc appointment. In the same
situation again I think I would have handled mine differently.
--
Rhi
you'd be rubber roomed at the Credit Valley Hosp
Oh, without a doubt.
--
Rhi
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Yippee! Med-triggered hypomania! |
30 Aug 2006 01:25:04 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:00:14 -0400, "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.com>
wrote:
<snipped lots of unfortunate understanding>
->If what you're feeling gets worse or it
->doesn't abate by tomorrow, or you're suddenly feeling panicky, I would go
->the hospital rather than wait for the doc appointment. In the same
->situation again I think I would have handled mine differently.
I am SOOOOOO sorry you know what it's like. I think the worst of it is
the skin-crawling, like there's bugs underneath trying to gnaw their
way out. AAAGGHHH!
I'll do some more med tweaking (allowed), then decide on Friday. If
things are worse, I'll go back, it would only be two or three days.
I'm doing everything my regular doc. would say to do, anyway.
I'm sleeping, though waking up a lot, thanks to Seroquel. Everything
else is disjointed misery. It's a known side effect of Lexapro. I'm on
the low dose, 10 mg.. I'm not going to stop taking it without a
replacement, that's asking for a major depressive crash.
Many years ago, I was put on Elavil. For three weeks, I was going to
work, unaware that I was extremely delusional. I kept imagining and
talking about things with no link to reality. There were visual
distortions, not quite hallucinations. I hid it well at work, but my
mom the nurse noticed. I looked up Elavil in her PDR and noted the
side effects. She took me to the ER, where I was given an antidote
(Benadryl, intramuscular injection).
I had a similar reaction to Serzone, right in the middle of my
marriage breakup. The only thing to do was wait for it to leave my
system -- three weeks of agony!
I have more examples, but I won't bore you. I don't play with med
reactions. I'm really hoping it will wear off, as most of the stuff
I've read says it might. If not, I will go back to the unit. I should
not be alone in this state. No danger to myself, but I might
absentmindedly set my apartment on fire or something. Well... my
apartment has sprinklers, but you get the idea.
I have to go to the grocery store. As in "if I want to eat tonight, I
have to go to the grocery store". I hope I don't do anything crazy
enough to get the cops called.
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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30 Aug 2006 02:55:57 PM |
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"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:00:14 -0400, "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.com>
wrote:
<snipped lots of unfortunate understanding>
->If what you're feeling gets worse or it
->doesn't abate by tomorrow, or you're suddenly feeling panicky, I would
go
->the hospital rather than wait for the doc appointment. In the same
->situation again I think I would have handled mine differently.
I am SOOOOOO sorry you know what it's like. I think the worst of it is
the skin-crawling, like there's bugs underneath trying to gnaw their
way out. AAAGGHHH!
Yeah, the bug thing does me in too. So many tactile unpleasantries.
Clothes don't feel right. Food doesn't taste right. Or the texture is all
wrong. Everything smells wrong. Everything sounds too loud. Looks too
bright. I found that sleeping as often as I could was the only way to
endure it, and it seems like that's what you're already doing so stick with
what works.
I'll do some more med tweaking (allowed), then decide on Friday. If
things are worse, I'll go back, it would only be two or three days.
I'm doing everything my regular doc. would say to do, anyway.
I'm sleeping, though waking up a lot, thanks to Seroquel. Everything
else is disjointed misery. It's a known side effect of Lexapro. I'm on
the low dose, 10 mg.. I'm not going to stop taking it without a
replacement, that's asking for a major depressive crash.
Many years ago, I was put on Elavil. For three weeks, I was going to
work, unaware that I was extremely delusional. I kept imagining and
talking about things with no link to reality. There were visual
distortions, not quite hallucinations. I hid it well at work, but my
mom the nurse noticed. I looked up Elavil in her PDR and noted the
side effects. She took me to the ER, where I was given an antidote
(Benadryl, intramuscular injection).
I had a similar reaction to Serzone, right in the middle of my
marriage breakup. The only thing to do was wait for it to leave my
system -- three weeks of agony!
I have more examples, but I won't bore you. I don't play with med
reactions. I'm really hoping it will wear off, as most of the stuff
I've read says it might. If not, I will go back to the unit. I should
not be alone in this state. No danger to myself, but I might
absentmindedly set my apartment on fire or something. Well... my
apartment has sprinklers, but you get the idea.
I have to go to the grocery store. As in "if I want to eat tonight, I
have to go to the grocery store". I hope I don't do anything crazy
enough to get the cops called.
I trust you know what you're doing. Gawd, Claudia you probably know as much
as your doctors by now. I'm sorry for you too, that you have to go through
this. I hope all goes well at the grocery store. Cops called is the last
thing you need. You can probably will yourself into a half hour of normal
in order to get that done. You've had a lot of practice. <g> Hang in
there. I'll be thinking about you.
--
Rhi
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| User: "justpackrat" |
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31 Aug 2006 10:03:23 AM |
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Yeah, the bug thing does me in too. So many tactile unpleasantries.
Clothes don't feel right. Food doesn't taste right. Or the texture is all
wrong. Everything smells wrong. Everything sounds too loud. Looks too
bright. I found that sleeping as often as I could was the only way to
endure it, and it seems like that's what you're already doing so stick with
what works.
hmmm, I experience this exact thing way too much. Wondering what my
pdoc would add to my diagnosis if I told him this.
BTW, are you doing any better today chim?
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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01 Sep 2006 05:02:48 PM |
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"justpackrat" <maddie_75@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Yeah, the bug thing does me in too. So many tactile unpleasantries.
Clothes don't feel right. Food doesn't taste right. Or the texture is
all
wrong. Everything smells wrong. Everything sounds too loud. Looks too
bright. I found that sleeping as often as I could was the only way to
endure it, and it seems like that's what you're already doing so stick
with
what works.
hmmm, I experience this exact thing way too much. Wondering what my
pdoc would add to my diagnosis if I told him this.
BTW, are you doing any better today chim?
If you are noticing a regular pattern of this you should mention it to your
pdoc. Let me know what happens. I'm curious as to what the doc will say.
--
Rhi
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| User: "" |
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31 Aug 2006 12:17:15 PM |
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On 31 Aug 2006 08:03:23 -0700, "justpackrat" <maddie_75@yahoo.com>
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->hmmm, I experience this exact thing way too much. Wondering what my
->pdoc would add to my diagnosis if I told him this.
It's pretty run-of-the-mill Bipolar stuff. Notice the folks who
responded, who go through the same thing. If you aren't Dx'd already,
that's all the doc. would add. You'd get at least one mood stabilizer
(I need two).
->BTW, are you doing any better today chim?
Thanks for asking. Cut the Lexapro to 5 mg., much better. I read on
crazymeds.com that folks who take it for Generalized Anxiety Disorder
often only need 5 mg., perhaps it's enough for me. Cutting up 20 mg.
tablets is a challenge, though... will ask my regular doc. to Rx 5
mg..
Today I'm in "productive hypomania" and my apartment is getting
cleaned. It needs it. Dirt becomes invisible while depressed, and I
was depressed for months. Glad I had beans last night and put off
grocery shopping until today. NO INVITATIONS! :P
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| User: "victorious man" |
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31 Aug 2006 12:38:56 AM |
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notchimera<dont@bother.com> wrote in
news:3egbf25m4b6824pmnmqkkfamvb111okhqk@4ax.com:
I'm tellin' 'ya, it's always somethin'.
Unlike most Bipolars, I hate hypomania. It's agitating and
uncomfortable. This isn't of the pleasant, creative or
get-the-apartment-clean variety. I've adjusted all my meds accordingly
and it's getting worse. Don't see my regular doc. until late next
week. Calling the clinic is pointless.
I don't want to go back to the hospital.
I have the same kind of hypomania. Depakote is quite effective in
suppressing it most of the time for me. Effexor had the opposite effect
- it made me even more irritable, anxious, agitated, impatient, and
impulsive. Of course, it was my previous pdoc who prescribed Effexor.
That was the pdoc who didn't know what cognitive therapy was, and who
didn't recognize the existence of Bipolar II.
My current pdoc is much better, and I feel much better now that I'm on
Wellbutrin and Depakote.
--
- victorious man
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"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do
that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about
American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and
the Americans know it."
- Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.
"Israel controls the United States Senate."
- Sen. William Fulbright
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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01 Sep 2006 05:04:18 PM |
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"victorious man" <victorious@no.net> wrote in message
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notchimera<dont@bother.com> wrote in
news:3egbf25m4b6824pmnmqkkfamvb111okhqk@4ax.com:
I'm tellin' 'ya, it's always somethin'.
Unlike most Bipolars, I hate hypomania. It's agitating and
uncomfortable. This isn't of the pleasant, creative or
get-the-apartment-clean variety. I've adjusted all my meds accordingly
and it's getting worse. Don't see my regular doc. until late next
week. Calling the clinic is pointless.
I don't want to go back to the hospital.
I have the same kind of hypomania. Depakote is quite effective in
suppressing it most of the time for me. Effexor had the opposite effect
- it made me even more irritable, anxious, agitated, impatient, and
impulsive. Of course, it was my previous pdoc who prescribed Effexor.
That was the pdoc who didn't know what cognitive therapy was, and who
didn't recognize the existence of Bipolar II.
My current pdoc is much better, and I feel much better now that I'm on
Wellbutrin and Depakote.
--
- victorious man
This is encouraging to read. I'm glad you've finally found a med combo that
is helping.
--
Rhi
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| User: "victorious man" |
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01 Sep 2006 08:08:55 PM |
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"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in
news:edaap2$gu6$1@news.datemas.de:
This is encouraging to read. I'm glad you've finally found a med
combo that is helping.
--
Rhi
Thanks. I'm hoping it can get even better though.
--
- victorious man
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"We have the Israelis coming to us for equipment. We can say we can't
possibly get the Congress to support a program like this. And they say
don't worry about the Congress. We will take care of the Congress. This
is somebody from another country, but they can do it. They own, you
know, the banks in this country. The newspapers. Just look at where the
Jewish money is." -- General George S. Brown
"Israel controls the United States Senate."
- Sen. William Fulbright
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| User: "victorious man" |
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31 Aug 2006 10:06:06 AM |
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victorious man <victorious@no.net> wrote in
news:Xns982FE6743961victorABCABCABCABCio@207.115.17.102:
notchimera<dont@bother.com> wrote in
news:3egbf25m4b6824pmnmqkkfamvb111okhqk@4ax.com:
I'm tellin' 'ya, it's always somethin'.
Unlike most Bipolars, I hate hypomania. It's agitating and
uncomfortable. This isn't of the pleasant, creative or
get-the-apartment-clean variety. I've adjusted all my meds
accordingly
and it's getting worse. Don't see my regular doc. until late next
week. Calling the clinic is pointless.
I don't want to go back to the hospital.
I have the same kind of hypomania. Depakote is quite effective in
suppressing it most of the time for me. Effexor had the opposite
effect
- it made me even more irritable, anxious, agitated, impatient, and
impulsive.
Worst of all is the fits of rage that can easily be triggered when I'm
in that mood.
Of course, it was my previous pdoc who prescribed Effexor.
That was the pdoc who didn't know what cognitive therapy was, and who
didn't recognize the existence of Bipolar II.
My current pdoc is much better, and I feel much better now that I'm on
Wellbutrin and Depakote.
--
- victorious man
----------
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do
that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about
American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and
the Americans know it."
- Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001.
"Israel controls the United States Senate."
- Sen. William Fulbright
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