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SOCIOLOGY > Diabetes |
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"GysdeJongh" |
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05 Feb 2008 03:34:14 PM |
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Do National Dietary Guidelines Do More Harm Than Good? |
http://www.aecom.yu.edu/home/news/PRdetails.asp?isPR=1&id=399
The recommendation to lower fat might actually have some potential harm.
The committee noted concern that "the previous priority given to a 'low-fat
intake' may lead people to believe that, as long as fat intake is low, the
diet will be entirely healthful.
This belief could engender an overconsumption of total calories in the form
of carbohydrates, resulting in the adverse metabolic consequences of
high-carbohydrate diets," the committee wrote, while also noting that "an
increasing prevalence of obesity in the United States has corresponded
roughly with an absolute increase in carbohydrate consumption."
Dr. Marantz and colleagues present data that support these trends; however,
they are careful to note that this temporal association does not prove
causation. Instead, says Dr. Marantz, "it raises the possibility of a net
harmful effect of seemingly innocuous dietary advice. These dietary
recommendations did not necessarily cause harm, but there is a realistic
possibility that they may have." "As doctors, our first call is to do no
harm," he adds. "That's why we recommend that guidelines be generous in
providing information, but more cautious in giving direction. Any directions
should be based on the very highest standards of scientific evidence. After
all, we expect that much from pharmaceutical companies before they bring a
new drug to market."
hth
Gys
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| User: "Kurt" |
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| Title: Re: Do National Dietary Guidelines Do More Harm Than Good? |
05 Feb 2008 09:25:37 PM |
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On Feb 5, 1:34=EF=BF=BDpm, "GysdeJongh" <jongh...@planet.nl> wrote:
http://www.aecom.yu.edu/home/news/PRdetails.asp?isPR=3D1&id=3D399
The recommendation to lower fat might actually have somepotentialharm.
The committee noted concern that "the previous priority given to a 'low-fa=
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intake' may lead people to believe that, as long as fat intake is low, the=
diet will be entirely healthful.
That's as ridiculous as saying that if someone eats low-carb it will
lead them to think that as long as the carbs are low they can eat all
the greasy fat meat and cheese they want. But I see that it has given
a ray of hope to all the low-carb or the highway advocates here. They
embrace this exciting revelation.
Doctors and nutritionists for many years have recommended a "balanced"
diet. The minute one goes too far one way or another then they have
subverted modern science and just plain common sense. Good luck with
that.
Kurt
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| User: "Alan S" |
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| Title: Re: Do National Dietary Guidelines Do More Harm Than Good? |
05 Feb 2008 11:12:11 PM |
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:25:37 -0800 (PST), Kurt
<kurtwheeling1965@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 5, 1:34?pm, "GysdeJongh" <jongh...@planet.nl> wrote:
http://www.aecom.yu.edu/home/news/PRdetails.asp?isPR=1&id=399
The recommendation to lower fat might actually have somepotentialharm.
The committee noted concern that "the previous priority given to a 'low-fat
intake' may lead people to believe that, as long as fat intake is low, the
diet will be entirely healthful.
That's as ridiculous as saying that if someone eats low-carb it will
lead them to think that as long as the carbs are low they can eat all
the greasy fat meat and cheese they want. But I see that it has given
a ray of hope to all the low-carb or the highway advocates here. They
embrace this exciting revelation.
Doctors and nutritionists for many years have recommended a "balanced"
diet. The minute one goes too far one way or another then they have
subverted modern science and just plain common sense. Good luck with
that.
Kurt
Did you actually read the article?
Alan, T2, Australia.
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| User: "Alan S" |
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| Title: Re: Do National Dietary Guidelines Do More Harm Than Good? |
05 Feb 2008 05:04:44 PM |
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 22:34:14 +0100, "GysdeJongh"
<jongh711@planet.nl> wrote:
http://www.aecom.yu.edu/home/news/PRdetails.asp?isPR=1&id=399
The recommendation to lower fat might actually have some potential harm.
<snip>
At last, a few first glimmers of awareness in the scientific
community.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
Latest: LuckyKat
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| User: "Nicky" |
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| Title: Re: Do National Dietary Guidelines Do More Harm Than Good? |
05 Feb 2008 04:05:11 PM |
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 22:34:14 +0100, "GysdeJongh" <jongh711@planet.nl>
wrote:
http://www.aecom.yu.edu/home/news/PRdetails.asp?isPR=1&id=399
The recommendation to lower fat might actually have some potential harm.
Wow! Baby steps... but still!
Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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| Title: Re: Do National Dietary Guidelines Do More Harm Than Good? |
05 Feb 2008 04:29:54 PM |
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Smarter to simply eat less, down to the optimal amount:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart
Be hungry... be healthy.... be hungrier... be blessed:
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthy
Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
Bondservant to the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
friend GysdeJongh wrote:
http://www.aecom.yu.edu/home/news/PRdetails.asp?isPR=1&id=399
The recommendation to lower fat might actually have some potential harm.
The committee noted concern that "the previous priority given to a 'low-fat
intake' may lead people to believe that, as long as fat intake is low, the
diet will be entirely healthful.
This belief could engender an overconsumption of total calories in the form
of carbohydrates, resulting in the adverse metabolic consequences of
high-carbohydrate diets," the committee wrote, while also noting that "an
increasing prevalence of obesity in the United States has corresponded
roughly with an absolute increase in carbohydrate consumption."
Dr. Marantz and colleagues present data that support these trends; however,
they are careful to note that this temporal association does not prove
causation. Instead, says Dr. Marantz, "it raises the possibility of a net
harmful effect of seemingly innocuous dietary advice. These dietary
recommendations did not necessarily cause harm, but there is a realistic
possibility that they may have." "As doctors, our first call is to do no
harm," he adds. "That's why we recommend that guidelines be generous in
providing information, but more cautious in giving direction. Any directions
should be based on the very highest standards of scientific evidence. After
all, we expect that much from pharmaceutical companies before they bring a
new drug to market."
hth
Gys
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Do National Dietary Guidelines Do More Harm Than Good? |
05 Feb 2008 05:17:10 PM |
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Our armchair master of the "well da" moment opines:
"Smarter to simply eat less, down to the optimal amount:"
Yup, the universal advice, restrict calories until normal weight status
is obtained.
God bless.
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| User: "J666" |
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| Title: Re: Do National Dietary Guidelines Do More Harm Than Good? |
05 Feb 2008 04:39:56 PM |
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There are no simple answers because if there were, no one would be
discussing it.
The best advice to date is a balanced diet with watching the calories
and as much physical activity as possible. Lifestyle is important.
Beware of fads and slogans/mantras and fancy names offering a simple
answer.
Look into the scientific basis of what people advocate and if is not
there, avoid it no matter what they say.
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| User: "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" |
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| Title: Re: Do National Dietary Guidelines Do More Harm Than Good? |
05 Feb 2008 07:19:54 PM |
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http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Stupidsatan
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| User: "J666" |
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| Title: Gee, the Holy Spirit is busy convicting people on AndyHOLEly's web |
05 Feb 2008 07:22:32 PM |
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On Feb 5, 7:19 pm, "Andrew B. Chung,
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Stupidsatan
Gee, the Holy Spirit is busy convicting people on AndyHOLEly's web
page.
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| User: "morris" |
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| Title: Re: Do National Dietary Guidelines Do More Harm Than Good? |
05 Feb 2008 10:16:39 PM |
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The US guidelines would probably help decreaset he prevalence and
severity of diabetes, among othe diseases if anyone actually followed
them. The last survey I saw, showed that average carb consumption in
the US has increased from 400g per day something like 20 years ago,
to 500 grams now. So the USDA diet, with 315 grams of carbs in a 2000
calorie diet, represents a substantial decrease in carbs from what
people are actually eating, sad to say.
The biggest problem with national dietary guidelines is that nobody
pays attention to them. If they paid attention to them, public health
would be immeasurably improved.This would be true with almost any
guidelines, as people pay a heck of lot more attention to snack and
fast food commercials than to anything nutritionists and governments
have to say...
Morris
n Feb 5, 1:34 pm, "GysdeJongh" <jongh...@planet.nl> wrote:
http://www.aecom.yu.edu/home/news/PRdetails.asp?isPR=1&id=399
The recommendation to lower fat might actually have some potential harm.
The committee noted concern that "the previous priority given to a 'low-fat
intake' may lead people to believe that, as long as fat intake is low, the
diet will be entirely healthful.
This belief could engender an overconsumption of total calories in the form
of carbohydrates, resulting in the adverse metabolic consequences of
high-carbohydrate diets," the committee wrote, while also noting that "an
increasing prevalence of obesity in the United States has corresponded
roughly with an absolute increase in carbohydrate consumption."
Dr. Marantz and colleagues present data that support these trends; however,
they are careful to note that this temporal association does not prove
causation. Instead, says Dr. Marantz, "it raises the possibility of a net
harmful effect of seemingly innocuous dietary advice. These dietary
recommendations did not necessarily cause harm, but there is a realistic
possibility that they may have." "As doctors, our first call is to do no
harm," he adds. "That's why we recommend that guidelines be generous in
providing information, but more cautious in giving direction. Any directions
should be based on the very highest standards of scientific evidence. After
all, we expect that much from pharmaceutical companies before they bring a
new drug to market."
hth
Gys
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