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Topic: Sociology > Education
User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
Date: 03 May 2007 10:30:20 AM
Object: All Believers Are Tax Free?
The Supreme Court has said that the power to tax is the power to
destroy. This is the reason that religious organizations do not have
to pay taxes, since the government is not to restrict the "free
exercise" of religion.
However, in recent days, many have claimed that individuals have
broken this "wall" by trying to establish religion by being religious
openly in public occupations. My question...well, are they tax free?
Think about it. If we are not to tax those capable of establishing
religion, then, any who could establish religion should be tax free.
If a Christian teacher can establish religion, she should be tax
free. If a Christian judge is establishing religion, his salary
should be tax-free for that year. Because, apparently, anyone that is
religious is an establishment of religion, and religious
establishments are not taxed.
Or, if you are going to say that ONLY religious ORGANIZATIONS can be
tax free, then ONLY such organizations can qualify as an establishment
of religion in the 1st amendment and ONLY they could breach the wall.
Ken Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
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User: "cpt banjo"

Title: Re: All Believers Are Tax Free? 03 May 2007 11:01:46 AM
On May 3, 10:30 am, Wide Eyed in Wonder <kand...@hotmail.com> wrote:

The Supreme Court has said that the power to tax is the power to
destroy. This is the reason that religious organizations do not have
to pay taxes, since the government is not to restrict the "free
exercise" of religion.

Nonsense. There is no constitutional requirement that religious
organizations be tax-exempt. Rather, the granting of the exemption to
certain religious organizations has been a policy decision by Congress
and the state legislatures that they could revoke at any time. In
fact, some activities of religious organizations are taxable. If a
church rents out is oparking lot during the week as a commercial
parking business, its income from the activity is taxable. If a
religious organization sells religious literature, it may have to
collect sales tax.
Churches do not have any more constitutional right to not pay taxes
just because of the First Amendment than newspaper publishers do.

However, in recent days, many have claimed that individuals have
broken this "wall" by trying to establish religion by being religious
openly in public occupations. My question...well, are they tax free?
Think about it. If we are not to tax those capable of establishing
religion, then, any who could establish religion should be tax free.

More nonsense. Just because an organization is religious doesn't
automatically entitle it to a tax exemption. You may recall that Bob
Jones University lost its tax exemption because of its racially
discriminatory admissions policy.
.

User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: All Believers Are Tax Free? 04 May 2007 12:00:43 AM
On May 3, 2007, KENNETH "I'M #1" CLIFTON wrote:

The Supreme Court has said that the power to tax is the power to
destroy. This is the reason that religious organizations do not have
to pay taxes, since the government is not to restrict the "free
exercise" of religion.

Please - very specifically - illustrate precisely and exactly where
"religious organizations" are exempted from paying taxes, or, in your
words, "do not have to pay taxes".
Again: the tremendous majority of the time you have no idea about
what you're babbling and you do tremendous harm to Christianity
because you vomit on Jesus' words.
You might read the Gospels - for the /first/ time for /content/ - and
give very serious consideration to becoming a follower of Jesus and
try to live a Christ-like life.
Forget Paul the Wack and the stories of all those old kings. Forget
Saint John the Mushroom Head and his hallucinations. Forget
projections and prophecies.
Do you know what a "red-letter" version of the _Bible_ is?
Do you know what those red-letters are? Have you ever had the vaguest
idea that it might be a just really good idea to read them and - at
the very least - think about them?
In years of babbling your arrogant/egomaniiacal hubris on this (and
other) forums, you have let everybody know who is NUMBER ONE in
Kenneth Clifton's life and there is no mistake whatsoever who your
NUMBER ONE is:
KENNETH CLIFTON.
Gray Shockley
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However, in recent days, many have claimed that individuals have
broken this "wall" by trying to establish religion by being religious
openly in public occupations. My question...well, are they tax free?

Think about it. If we are not to tax those capable of establishing
religion, then, any who could establish religion should be tax free.
If a Christian teacher can establish religion, she should be tax
free. If a Christian judge is establishing religion, his salary
should be tax-free for that year. Because, apparently, anyone that is
religious is an establishment of religion, and religious
establishments are not taxed.

Or, if you are going to say that ONLY religious ORGANIZATIONS can be
tax free, then ONLY such organizations can qualify as an establishment
of religion in the 1st amendment and ONLY they could breach the wall.

Ken Clifton
christiansuperhero.com

.

User: "Bob LeChevalier"

Title: Re: All Believers Are Tax Free? 03 May 2007 05:03:48 PM
Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

The Supreme Court has said that the power to tax is the power to
destroy.

Cite, please.

This is the reason that religious organizations do not have
to pay taxes, since the government is not to restrict the "free
exercise" of religion.

Actually, I don't believe that the question has been decided by the
Supreme Court. Religious organizations are exempted because they can
easily qualify as nonprofit and charitable, just like a lot of other
non profit and charitable groups. If they don't meet the rules, they
pay taxes just like any business.
There is no particular reason that the law couldn't be changed with
the result that religious groups are taxed.

However, in recent days, many have claimed that individuals have
broken this "wall" by trying to establish religion by being religious
openly in public occupations. My question...well, are they tax free?

Think about it. If we are not to tax those capable of establishing
religion, then, any who could establish religion should be tax free.
If a Christian teacher can establish religion, she should be tax
free. If a Christian judge is establishing religion, his salary
should be tax-free for that year. Because, apparently, anyone that is
religious is an establishment of religion, and religious
establishments are not taxed.

Why don't you learn the law, before making such silly arguments.
lojbab
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