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07 Oct 2005 06:38:16 AM |
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Americans question Church-state separation, poll finds |
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=39972
Americans question Church-state separation, poll finds
Oct. 04 (CWNews.com) - Americans place a high value on religious freedom, a
new public-opinion survey shows. But many respondents were not convinced of
the need to separate Church and state.
In a poll commissioned by the Council for America's First Freedom, 77
percent of those questioned said that religious freedom is at least as
important today as it was when the US was founded. And nearly one in three
respondents said that religious freedom is the single most important
guarantee afforded by the Bill of Rights. Only freedom of speech was rated
more important by those surveyed.
At the same time, half of the survey sample indicated that they did not see
a need for strict separation of Church and state; 27 percent of the
respondents said that the church-state separation should be less strictly
interpreted, while 23 percent said that there was no need for that
separation at all.
By large majorities, the survey sample approved of prayer and Scripture
readings in public schools, and displays of religious symbols such as the
Ten Commandments and Nativity crèches on public property.
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The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the U.S. and a couple from overseas as well]
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: Americans question Church-state separation, poll finds |
07 Oct 2005 11:30:50 PM |
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<buckeye_ELO@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:rgnck1p34uuoiehnl3o8ore01vj3st8uc0@4ax.com...
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=39972
Americans question Church-state separation, poll finds
Oct. 04 (CWNews.com) - Americans place a high value on religious freedom,
a
new public-opinion survey shows. But many respondents were not convinced
of
the need to separate Church and state.
In a poll commissioned by the Council for America's First Freedom, 77
percent of those questioned said that religious freedom is at least as
important today as it was when the US was founded. And nearly one in three
respondents said that religious freedom is the single most important
guarantee afforded by the Bill of Rights. Only freedom of speech was rated
more important by those surveyed.
At the same time, half of the survey sample indicated that they did not
see
a need for strict separation of Church and state; 27 percent of the
respondents said that the church-state separation should be less strictly
interpreted, while 23 percent said that there was no need for that
separation at all.
By large majorities, the survey sample approved of prayer and Scripture
readings in public schools, and displays of religious symbols such as the
Ten Commandments and Nativity crèches on public property.
The separation of church and state is an integral part of religious freedom.
Without it, we don't have religious freedom.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Americans question Church-state separation, poll finds |
10 Oct 2005 07:40:53 AM |
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"fred" <clarma1@gmail.com> wrote:
:|buckeye_ELO@nospam.net wrote:
:|> http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=39972
:|> Americans question Church-state separation, poll finds
:|>
:|> Oct. 04 (CWNews.com) - Americans place a high value on religious freedom, a
:|> new public-opinion survey shows. But many respondents were not convinced of
:|> the need to separate Church and state.
:|>
:|> In a poll commissioned by the Council for America's First Freedom, 77
:|> percent of those questioned said that religious freedom is at least as
:|> important today as it was when the US was founded. And nearly one in three
:|> respondents said that religious freedom is the single most important
:|> guarantee afforded by the Bill of Rights. Only freedom of speech was rated
:|> more important by those surveyed.
:|
:|"The constitutional freedom of religion [is] the most inalienable and
:|sacred of all human rights." --Thomas Jefferson: Virginia Board of
:|Visitors Minutes, 1819. ME 19:416
:|
:|>
:|> At the same time, half of the survey sample indicated that they did not see
:|> a need for strict separation of Church and state; 27 percent of the
:|> respondents said that the church-state separation should be less strictly
:|> interpreted, while 23 percent said that there was no need for that
:|> separation at all.
:|
:|People don't understand that the 10th Amendment delegated/reserved the
:|power to legislate religion uniquely to the states. But the Supreme
:|Court lied about the meaning of the establishment clause in the Everson
:|opinion as evidenced by the fact that the Everson opinion completely
:|ignored the 10th Amendment.
The only liar I see in those posts is you
You are the liar troll
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Posting and reading from alt.politics.usa.constitution OR alt.education
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the U.S. and a couple from overseas as well]
***************************************************************
.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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| User: "fred" |
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| Title: Re: Americans question Church-state separation, poll finds |
07 Oct 2005 01:24:19 PM |
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wrote:
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=3D39972
Americans question Church-state separation, poll finds
Oct. 04 (CWNews.com) - Americans place a high value on religious freedom,=
a
new public-opinion survey shows. But many respondents were not convinced =
of
the need to separate Church and state.
In a poll commissioned by the Council for America's First Freedom, 77
percent of those questioned said that religious freedom is at least as
important today as it was when the US was founded. And nearly one in three
respondents said that religious freedom is the single most important
guarantee afforded by the Bill of Rights. Only freedom of speech was rated
more important by those surveyed.
"The constitutional freedom of religion [is] the most inalienable and
sacred of all human rights." --Thomas Jefferson: Virginia Board of
Visitors Minutes, 1819. ME 19:416
At the same time, half of the survey sample indicated that they did not s=
ee
a need for strict separation of Church and state; 27 percent of the
respondents said that the church-state separation should be less strictly
interpreted, while 23 percent said that there was no need for that
separation at all.
People don't understand that the 10th Amendment delegated/reserved the
power to legislate religion uniquely to the states. But the Supreme
Court lied about the meaning of the establishment clause in the Everson
opinion as evidenced by the fact that the Everson opinion completely
ignored the 10th Amendment.
By large majorities, the survey sample approved of prayer and Scripture
readings in public schools, and displays of religious symbols such as the
Ten Commandments and Nativity cr=E8ches on public property.
"One of the amendments to the Constitution... expressly declares that
'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press,' thereby guarding in the same sentence and
under the same words, the freedom of religion, of speech, and of the
press; insomuch that whatever violates either throws down the sanctuary
which covers the others." --Thomas Jefferson: Draft Kentucky
Resolutions, 1798. ME 17:382
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Posting and reading from alt.politics.usa.constitution OR alt.education
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS =B7 Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the U.S. and a couple from overseas as well]
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. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why =
"a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisne=
r,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Americans question Church-state separation, poll finds |
07 Oct 2005 02:55:15 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 07:38:16 -0400, wrote:
By large majorities, the survey sample approved of prayer and Scripture
readings in public schools, and displays of religious symbols such as the
Ten Commandments and Nativity crèches on public property.
A poll conducted by a special interest to promote their view isn't
worth the paper it's printed on.
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| User: "SEEYO" |
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| Title: Re: Americans question Church-state separation, poll finds |
07 Oct 2005 09:24:27 AM |
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Well, 50% of Americans believe in "creationism" so so what can you expect?
Americans have the brains of farm animals. The nazi-cons understand this.
They're very good at cattle management.
--
As a human being I applaud the efforts of all Freedom Fighters to get
American terrorists out of their country. America has been the largest
terrorist nation on earth for decades. Slaughetering hundreds of thousands
in Central & South America, Asia and the Middle East directly with "Our
Troops (c)" and indrectly by our brutal, repressive, right wing puppets,
destabilizing governments and assassinating democratically elected leaders.
Empire builders deserve their own medicine. We create the monsters that come
back to kill us. By all means lets stop terrorism; let's stop being
terrorists. They don't hate us for what we are; they hate us for what we do.
<buckeye_ELO@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:rgnck1p34uuoiehnl3o8ore01vj3st8uc0@4ax.com...
http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=39972
Americans question Church-state separation, poll finds
Oct. 04 (CWNews.com) - Americans place a high value on religious freedom,
a
new public-opinion survey shows. But many respondents were not convinced
of
the need to separate Church and state.
In a poll commissioned by the Council for America's First Freedom, 77
percent of those questioned said that religious freedom is at least as
important today as it was when the US was founded. And nearly one in three
respondents said that religious freedom is the single most important
guarantee afforded by the Bill of Rights. Only freedom of speech was rated
more important by those surveyed.
At the same time, half of the survey sample indicated that they did not
see
a need for strict separation of Church and state; 27 percent of the
respondents said that the church-state separation should be less strictly
interpreted, while 23 percent said that there was no need for that
separation at all.
By large majorities, the survey sample approved of prayer and Scripture
readings in public schools, and displays of religious symbols such as the
Ten Commandments and Nativity crèches on public property.
**************************************************************
Posting and reading from alt.politics.usa.constitution OR alt.education
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the U.S. and a couple from overseas as well]
***************************************************************
. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why
"a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v.
Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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