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"Ted J L" <publicmien@yahoo.com.INV> wrote in message
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In article <13begaer656nvac@corp.supernews.com>,

"Ted J L" <publicmien@yahoo.com.INV> wrote in message
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In article <1186370520.967010.183830@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
bushhelpscorporations@yahoo.com says...

On Aug 5, 8:18 pm,

<SNIP>

The fact is that neither you, nor I, nor the multiple authors of the bible
know anything about the afterlife for a fact.

"The wicked is driven away in his wickedness:
but the righteous hath hope in his death" [Pr 14:32]

On Aug 6, 10:17 pm, Michael Price <nini_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Aug 7, 12:36 pm,

In article <13begaer656n...@corp.supernews.com>,

"Ted J L" <

In article <1186370520.967010.183...@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
bushhelpscorporati...@yahoo.com says...

On Aug 5, 8:18 pm,

people who die without jesus are the happiest people,<SNIP> they lived
their life on their own terms and I have
the utmost respect for people who live that way.

I reckon your utmost respect will be little consolation for them when
they're
face-down in judgement and facing eternity in torment.

You have any evidence that this has ever happened, or will ever?

Glad you asked...References are out of "The King James Bible containing
the Old and New Testaments Translated out of the Original Tongues and
with Former Translations diligently compared and revised by His Majesty's
special command"

That's not evidence as it's a known partisan work that gives no
evidence
other than voices in people's heads that it is true.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."[Ge 1:1]

"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,
and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired
to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat,
and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. " [Ge 3:6]

"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin;
and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned"[Ro 5:12]

1. You have sinned against God.
"For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God."
[Ro 3:23]
"Whosoever shall keep the whole law and yet offend in
one point, he is guilty of all."[Jas 2:10]
"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves,
and the truth is not in us." [1Jo 1:8]

2. God is a holy, sin-hating God.
"Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and
canst not look on iniquity."[Hab 1:13]
"For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness;
neither shall evil dwell in thee." [Ps. 5:4]

3. God's holy nature demands that all sin must be punished.
"For the wages of sin is death."[Ro 6:23]
"And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and
death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them:
and they were judged every man according to their works.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.
This is the second death. And whosoever was not found
written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
[Re 20:14-15]

4. God the Father imputed His holy wrath for your sin on Jesus, His
only begotten Son, as was foreshadowed and foretold
by Old Testament scripture:
" For such an high priest became us, who is holy,
harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made
higher than the heavens;
Who needeth not daily, ..., to offer
up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's:
for this he did once, when he offered up himself." [Heb 7:26-27]
"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that,
while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."[Rom. 5:8]
"He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised
for our iniquities."[Isa 53:5]
"Who did no sin...Who his own self bare our sins in
his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins,
should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes
ye were healed." [1Pe 22, 24]
"Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures:
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the
third day according to the scriptures" [1Co 15:3-4]

5. Jesus' death alone can save you from Hell--an
eternal separation from God--and nothing else.
"He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied:
by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many;
for he shall bear their iniquities."[Isa 53:11]
"For if righteousness come by the law, then Christ
died in vain."[Ga 2:21]
"Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh
be justified in His sight."[Ro 3:20]
"Not by works of righeousness which we have done,
but according to His mercy He saved us."[Tit 3:5]
"But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our
righteousnesses are as filthy rags."[Isa 64:6]

6. Eternal life is a gift from God to be received, not earned.
"The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."[Ro 6:23]
"As many as received him, to them gave he power to
become sons of God, even to them that believe on his name."[Joh 1:12]

7. To receive eternal life and be saved from Hell,
you must ask Jesus to save you.
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the
Lord shall be saved."[Ro 10:13]
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt
be saved, and thy house." [Ac 16:21]

When you ask to be saved, two things are of vital importance:
"Repentence toward God, and Faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ."[Ac 20:21]
"Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."[Lu 13:3]
"For thou desirest not sacrifices, else I would give it:
thou delightest not in burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are
a broken spirit: a broken and contrite heart, O God, thou
wilt not despise."[Ps 51:16-17]
--
.
"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."
2 Timothy 3:12- Hide quoted text -

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Another coward cant find me.I know, yall all brave behind the
keyboards, but will definitely hide from me.Its interesting, you would
think people would want to know both sides of this issue are wrong.But
you, you continue being an *****-the good people with me depend on
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On Aug 6, 10:17 pm, Michael Price <nini_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Aug 7, 12:36 pm,

In article <13begaer656n...@corp.supernews.com>,

"Ted J L" <

In article <1186370520.967010.183...@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
bushhelpscorporati...@yahoo.com says...

On Aug 5, 8:18 pm,

people who die without jesus are the happiest people,<SNIP> they lived
their life on their own terms and I have
the utmost respect for people who live that way.

I reckon your utmost respect will be little consolation for them when
they're
face-down in judgement and facing eternity in torment.

You have any evidence that this has ever happened, or will ever?

Glad you asked...References are out of "The King James Bible containing
the Old and New Testaments Translated out of the Original Tongues and
with Former Translations diligently compared and revised by His Majesty's
special command"

That's not evidence as it's a known partisan work that gives no
evidence other than voices in people's heads that it is true.

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."[Ge 1:1]

"And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food,
and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired
to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat,
and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. " [Ge 3:6]

"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin;
and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned"[Ro 5:12]

1. You have sinned against God.
"For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God."
[Ro 3:23]
"Whosoever shall keep the whole law and yet offend in
one point, he is guilty of all."[Jas 2:10]
"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves,
and the truth is not in us." [1Jo 1:8]

2. God is a holy, sin-hating God.
"Thou art of purer eyes than to behold evil, and
canst not look on iniquity."[Hab 1:13]
"For thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness;
neither shall evil dwell in thee." [Ps. 5:4]

3. God's holy nature demands that all sin must be punished.
"For the wages of sin is death."[Ro 6:23]
"And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and
death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them:
and they were judged every man according to their works.
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.
This is the second death. And whosoever was not found
written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
[Re 20:14-15]

4. God the Father imputed His holy wrath for your sin on Jesus, His
only begotten Son, as was foreshadowed and foretold
by Old Testament scripture:
" For such an high priest became us, who is holy,
harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made
higher than the heavens;
Who needeth not daily, ..., to offer
up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's:
for this he did once, when he offered up himself." [Heb 7:26-27]
"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that,
while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."[Rom. 5:8]
"He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised
for our iniquities."[Isa 53:5]
"Who did no sin...Who his own self bare our sins in
his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins,
should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes
ye were healed." [1Pe 22, 24]
"Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures:
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the
third day according to the scriptures" [1Co 15:3-4]

5. Jesus' death alone can save you from Hell--an
eternal separation from God--and nothing else.
"He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied:
by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many;
for he shall bear their iniquities."[Isa 53:11]
"For if righteousness come by the law, then Christ
died in vain."[Ga 2:21]
"Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh
be justified in His sight."[Ro 3:20]
"Not by works of righeousness which we have done,
but according to His mercy He saved us."[Tit 3:5]
"But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our
righteousnesses are as filthy rags."[Isa 64:6]

6. Eternal life is a gift from God to be received, not earned.
"The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."[Ro 6:23]
"As many as received him, to them gave he power to
become sons of God, even to them that believe on his name."[Joh 1:12]

7. To receive eternal life and be saved from Hell,
you must ask Jesus to save you.
"For whosoever shall call upon the name of the
Lord shall be saved."[Ro 10:13]
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt
be saved, and thy house." [Ac 16:21]

When you ask to be saved, two things are of vital importance:
"Repentence toward God, and Faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ."[Ac 20:21]
"Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."[Lu 13:3]
"For thou desirest not sacrifices, else I would give it:
thou delightest not in burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are
a broken spirit: a broken and contrite heart, O God, thou
wilt not despise."[Ps 51:16-17]
--
.
"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."
2 Timothy 3:12- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Another coward cant find me.I know, yall all brave behind the
keyboards, but will definitely hide from me.

Its interesting, you would
think people would want to know both sides of this issue are wrong.But
you, you continue being an *****-the good people with me depend on
it.

In article <13bh53mc5qq8qdf@corp.supernews.com>,

Citing the bible as proof of anything to someone who doesn't believe in it
is kinda foolish.

The Bible agrees with you; foolishness indeed!

"For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God,
it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe."
[1Cor 1:21]