Sociology > Education > CREDIT Robert Winn for Identifying the Likely *Source* of the RRR Cult's LIES!!
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"Craig Chilton" |
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22 Jan 2004 08:18:58 AM |
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CREDIT Robert Winn for Identifying the Likely *Source* of the RRR Cult's LIES!! |
On 22 Jan 2004 02:34:27 -0800,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
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This post will appear more than once in the group
that I regularly monitor, alt.abortion, to permit cross-
posting this to the full range of relevant groups.
= = = = = = = = =
On those who comprise the ANTI-Choice faction ---
PSEUDO-Christians. NO **actual** Christian would even THINK
of supporting an unconscionable and loathesome agenda that
seeks to impose IMMENSE hardship upon no fewer than tens of
MILLIONS of women by FORCING childbirth upon them. AGAINST
their will. Resulting in the DENIAL of their rights... their RELEGATION
to second-class-citizen status... their INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE to
mere, NON-sentient developing entities which are, in all important
ways, equivalent to sperm and ova (human, unique, NON-sentient,
a stage of development without which NO births would occur --
and alive); entities which the WOMEN would very properly, under
the circumstances, regard to be parasitic. Further manifestations of
that hardship would be the DISRUPTION of their well-being, both
short-term and long-term (as in, for decades or a lifetime)... and
the DESTRUCTION of countless of their opportunities.
That is the epitome of mindless HATEFULNESS.
Well, it seems to me that they would. Christians from the
beginning have fallen into satan's trap of immorality, resulting in
the problems you describe above.
So *Satan* is responsible for the lies, deceptions, propaganda,
disinformation, hate, vileness, disrespect, and total disregard for
people's rights, well-being, and future opportunities that is constantly
manifested by the pseudo-Christians and deluded Christians of
the RRR Cult? I guess that goes along well, too, with the obvious
fulfillment (by the dishonest nature of the RRR Cult leaders... Gary
Bauer, James Dobson, Beverly La Haye, D. James Kennedy, Jerry
Falwell, Cal Thomas, Donald Wildmon, and Chuck Colson) of the
Bible's prophecy that in our day, false teachers would spring up
and deceive a percentage of the people, including Christians.
Very GOOD thinking on your part, for once. Up until now, I'd
simply ascribed that immorality to be due to human failings on
their part (and stupidity). But since Satan and his capabilities for
deception are are so well-documented by the Bible, your theory
is very credible.
Well, even so, no problem. His boy got his due at the end of
WW II, in his Berlin bunker. And the vast majority of fair-minded
egalitarians in our society will ensure that the loathesome agendas
of the RRR Cult's leaders will soon bite the dust with just as much
finality. And all the MORE reason, now, to oppose the RRR Cult
with **additional** vigor!
Your theory also helps to explain how somewhere between
1 and 2 million Americans have been CONNED by those liars.
And several million more deceived into being passive sympa-
thizers for the RRR's agendas. Because, for example, to deceive
that many people into opposing a valuable remedy that the Bible
NOWHERE criticizes... abortion... **as though** it were *other-
wise* -- very well might TAKE such supernatural assistance.
And, after all, Satan IS the "father of lies," so he and the RRR
Cult's leaders GO together like cereal and cream! It's a natural!
I'm amazed that I hadn't thought of this before.
FINALLY, Robert, you have at last made a *worthwhile* contri-
bution to this discussion, and the overall debate, that is likely to
resonate from now on until the RRR Cult's agendas have become
extinct! You have **admirably** redeemed yourself from all that
earlier trolling!
GOOD SHOW!!!
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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| Title: Re: CREDIT Robert Winn for Identifying the Likely *Source* of the RRR Cult's LIES!! |
23 Jan 2004 10:59:53 AM |
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:17:25 +1300,
Anonymous Coward <nospam@anon.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn47@mybluelight.com> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
= = = = = = = = =
This post will appear more than once in the group
that I regularly monitor, alt.abortion, to permit cross-
posting this to the full range of relevant groups.
= = = = = = = = =
On those who comprise the ANTI-Choice faction ---
PSEUDO-Christians. NO **actual** Christian would even THINK
of supporting an unconscionable and loathesome agenda that
seeks to impose IMMENSE hardship upon no fewer than tens of
MILLIONS of women by FORCING childbirth upon them. AGAINST
their will. Resulting in the DENIAL of their rights... their RELEGATION
to second-class-citizen status... their INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE to
mere, NON-sentient developing entities which are, in all important
ways, equivalent to sperm and ova (human, unique, NON-sentient,
a stage of development without which NO births would occur --
and alive); entities which the WOMEN would very properly, under
the circumstances, regard to be parasitic. Further manifestations of
that hardship would be the DISRUPTION of their well-being, both
short-term and long-term (as in, for decades or a lifetime)... and
the DESTRUCTION of countless of their opportunities.
That is the epitome of mindless HATEFULNESS.
Well, it seems to me that they would. Christians from the
beginning have fallen into satan's trap of immorality, resulting in
the problems you describe above.
So *Satan* is responsible for the lies, deceptions, propaganda,
disinformation, hate, vileness, disrespect, and total disregard for
people's rights, well-being, and future opportunities that is constantly
manifested by the pseudo-Christians and deluded Christians of
the RRR Cult? I guess that goes along well, too, with the obvious
fulfillment (by the dishonest nature of the RRR Cult leaders... Gary
Bauer, James Dobson, Beverly La Haye, D. James Kennedy, Jerry
Falwell, Cal Thomas, Donald Wildmon, Pat Robertson, and Chuck
Colson) of the Bible's prophecy that in our day, false teachers would
spring up and deceive a percentage of the people, including Christians.
Deluded wacko.
Yes, you most certainly are. Thanks for identifying yourself this
early on. (In your desperation not to have any of your friends learn
your actual *identity* as a bigot, that's obviously the best you can do.
Hateful people who have no regard for the rights of others very rarely
have the courage of their convictions that it would take to stand
behind their written bile with their own name. Until required not to,
the KKK espoused the same philosophy by hiding their faces under
hoods. People having shameful agendas can't stand the light of day,
so cravenly cower in that manner.) You prove that every time you
post, and you've done a great job of proving it again in *this* post.
What's the expression... "By their fruits shall ye know
them" [?]
You finally got something right. And the abundance of rotten
and fetid fruits by which the RRR Cult is known is longer than
Marley's chains in Dickens' "A Christmas Carol" ---
-- Lies.
-- Disregard for the personal liberties of their neighbors.
-- Selfishness.
-- Busybodyism.
-- Deceit.
-- Propagating & disseminating/teaching false dogmas.
-- Bigotry.
-- Promoting, encouraging, and spreading delusion.
-- Misrepresenting the Bible (e.g.: It authorizes *no* Gestapo
to enforce its actual precepts against society in general,
mich less misperceived or made-up ones. Yet, the cultists
have been deceived by their leaders into thinking that it
does, and then they act upon those lies to interfere with
the lives, rights, well-being, and opportunities of others.)
-- Disregard for the well-being of others.
-- Mean-spiritedness.
-- Propagandizing.
-- Disrespecting those having other faiths, or no faiths.
-- Performing discrimination not condoned by the Bible
(e.g.: firing a person because he's homosexual, or
supporting such a discriminatory action.)
-- Seeking to *force* women to fully gestate unwanted repro-
ductive-process entities against their will, even though
the Bible speaks not a single word in opposition to their
electing choosing not to.
-- Disregard for Jesus' prime commandment in Matt. 22:37-40,
Mark 12:31, and elsewhere.
-- Control-freakishness; seeking to interfere with the personal
and private behavior and decisions of others, which are
absolutely none of their business, such that life for their
neighbors might be made more difficult, unnecessarily.
-- In doing all of the above, the cultists and their leaders directly
disobey and violate Romans 13:9-10 -- "...'Love your neigh-
bor as yourself." Love does no harm to its neighbor. There-
fore love is the fulfillment of the law."
Apparently the only fruit you respect is abortion and fornication.
Abortion is nothing more than a harmless, and enormously-beneficial
*remedy* for the unwanted medical condition of ill-timed pregnancy, for
all women who choose to access it. As a Christian, and fair-minded
humanitarian and egalitarian, I fully defend their right to access it
upon request, free of coercion and undue burdens. In accordance
with what I stated above, this action is wholly consistent with being
a Christian. However, it also is what *any* fair-minded and sensible
person would do, regardless of faith, or lack thereof.
Fornicarion, even though Biblically condemned, is the business of the
person who chooses to engage in it, and no one else's. Therefore, I
defend their right *not* to be coerced in that regard by society or the
state. It is a matter that is entirely between the person and God, on a
case-by-case basis.
Looks like the false teacher is you.
Not in the least. But you are PROVING **yourself** to be one.
Not that you're much of a teacher.
Good teachers present FACTS, and discuss topics in keeping with
those facts. NO facts support the agenda of the Anti-Choicers, and
NO facts support unwarranted hatefulness and discrimination against
people based on what they do in their PRIVATE and personal lives.
Thus, I am doing a good job of teaching by exposing the hate and
the lies of the RRR cultists. People like you.
(The only people that would listen to you for advice would be
virtually brain-dead, afterall.)
No doubt that is something you WISH were true. As usual, the
opposite is the case.
Very GOOD thinking on your part, for once. Up until now, I'd
simply ascribed that immorality to be due to human failings on
their part (and stupidity). But since Satan and his capabilities for
deception are are so well-documented by the Bible, your theory
is very credible.
<LIE-snip. Not in *my* posts, you won't propagandize with your bile.>
Well, even so, no problem. His boy got his due at the end of
WW II, in his Berlin bunker. And the vast majority of fair-minded
egalitarians in our society will ensure that the loathesome agendas
of the RRR Cult's leaders will soon bite the dust with just as much
finality. And all the MORE reason, now, to oppose the RRR Cult
with **additional** vigor!
***** up, you absolute abortion of a Christian.
How, er... "intelligent." No surprise. A person has to be one of
the most wickless candles in the lamp shop, mentality-wise, just to
BE the kind of hateful bigot that the RRR cult encompasses.
Your theory also helps to explain how somewhere between
1 and 2 million Americans have been CONNED by those liars.
That all??? And MANY, MANY MORE people JUST LIKE
YOU -- right???
ROTFL!!! You really **are** one mixed-up puppy.
CLUE: "Facts." Look it up. Educate yourself a bit.
And several million more deceived into being passive sympa-
thizers for the RRR's agendas. Because, for example, to deceive
that many people into opposing a valuable remedy that the Bible
NOWHERE criticizes... abortion... **as though** it were *other-
wise* -- very well might TAKE such supernatural assistance.
And, after all, Satan IS the "father of lies," so he and the RRR
Cult's leaders GO together like cereal and cream! It's a natural!
I'm amazed that I hadn't thought of this before.
<Propagandistic-lie snip. Of the best you can do, apparently.>
Sheez, are you fucked up - or what?
Stop confusing me with yourself. We are polar opposites. You
stand for hate, and I stand for fairness and compassion.
FINALLY, Robert, you have at last made a *worthwhile* contri-
bution to this discussion, and the overall debate, that is likely to
resonate from now on until the RRR Cult's agendas have become
extinct! You have **admirably** redeemed yourself from all that
earlier trolling!
GOOD SHOW!!!
Phew, what a **complete** *****.
Yes, you most CERTAINLY are, anonymous coward.
And you never disappoint. You *always* PROVE that.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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| Title: Re: CREDIT Robert Winn for Identifying the Likely *Source* of the RRR Cult's LIES!! |
23 Jan 2004 01:34:28 PM |
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:59:53 -0600, Craig Chilton wrote
(in message <401d520f.6271302@netnews.mchsi.com>):
So *Satan* is responsible for the lies, deceptions, propaganda,
disinformation, hate, vileness, disrespect, and total disregard for
people's rights, well-being, and future opportunities that is constantly
manifested by the pseudo-Christians and deluded Christians of
the RRR Cult? I guess that goes along well, too, with the obvious
fulfillment (by the dishonest nature of the RRR Cult leaders... Gary
Bauer, James Dobson, Beverly La Haye, D. James Kennedy, Jerry
Falwell, Cal Thomas, Donald Wildmon, Pat Robertson, and Chuck
Colson) of the Bible's prophecy that in our day, false teachers would
spring up and deceive a percentage of the people, including Christians.
Okay, I figgered that 2 of the 3 [R's] stand for "religious right" but what
is the usual word for that third (or first or second) "R"?
Gray Shockley
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Rocking Religious Right?
Randy Religious Right?
Righteous Religious Right?
Rancid Religious Right
Raping Religious Right?
Rapping Religious Right?
Reverent Religious Right?
Ru Rux Ran?
Rhode's Religious Right?
Religious Right's Rex?
Romantic Religious Right?
Religious Revenging Right?
Religious Rear's Right?
"I'm /so/ confused."
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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| Title: Re: CREDIT Robert Winn for Identifying the Likely *Source* of the RRR Cult's LIES!! |
23 Jan 2004 02:24:11 PM |
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Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:59:53 -0600, Craig Chilton wrote
(in message <401d520f.6271302@netnews.mchsi.com>):
So *Satan* is responsible for the lies, deceptions, propaganda,
disinformation, hate, vileness, disrespect, and total disregard for
people's rights, well-being, and future opportunities that is constantly
manifested by the pseudo-Christians and deluded Christians of
the RRR Cult? I guess that goes along well, too, with the obvious
fulfillment (by the dishonest nature of the RRR Cult leaders... Gary
Bauer, James Dobson, Beverly La Haye, D. James Kennedy, Jerry
Falwell, Cal Thomas, Donald Wildmon, Pat Robertson, and Chuck
Colson) of the Bible's prophecy that in our day, false teachers would
spring up and deceive a percentage of the people, including Christians.
Okay, I figgered that 2 of the 3 [R's] stand for "religious right" but what
is the usual word for that third (or first or second) "R"?
Radical R... R...
(assuming your question wasn't rhetorical). It used to be spelled out
in beautiful alliteration.
lojbab
--
lojbab
Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group
(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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| Title: Re: CREDIT Robert Winn for Identifying the Likely *Source* of the RRR Cult's LIES!! |
23 Jan 2004 03:19:42 PM |
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:24:11 -0600, Bob LeChevalier wrote
(in message <mk0310lrdkqf0ihq7mbpo918vrra2n294p@4ax.com>):
Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:59:53 -0600, Craig Chilton wrote
(in message <401d520f.6271302@netnews.mchsi.com>):
So *Satan* is responsible for the lies, deceptions, propaganda,
disinformation, hate, vileness, disrespect, and total disregard for
people's rights, well-being, and future opportunities that is constantly
manifested by the pseudo-Christians and deluded Christians of
the RRR Cult? I guess that goes along well, too, with the obvious
fulfillment (by the dishonest nature of the RRR Cult leaders... Gary
Bauer, James Dobson, Beverly La Haye, D. James Kennedy, Jerry
Falwell, Cal Thomas, Donald Wildmon, Pat Robertson, and Chuck
Colson) of the Bible's prophecy that in our day, false teachers would
spring up and deceive a percentage of the people, including Christians.
Okay, I figgered that 2 of the 3 [R's] stand for "religious right" but
what
is the usual word for that third (or first or second) "R"?
Radical R... R...
(assuming your question wasn't rhetorical).
No, I was totally serious, I didn't
know what the third "R" signified.
I only delve into a few of the "practices and wackinesses" of the lunatic
fringe and I don't know what "LLL" stands for either [grin].
It used to be spelled out
in beautiful alliteration.
Do you mean in a "sputtering sycophantic systemic sordid session spearheaded
by Spiro", by any chance? [or on purpose]
lojbab
/gray/
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: CREDIT Robert Winn for Identifying the Likely *Source* of the RRR Cult's LIES!! |
23 Jan 2004 11:21:52 PM |
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Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> wrote in message news:<0001HW.BC36EC0E000DE38D10D2B7A0@news.giganews.com>...
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:24:11 -0600, Bob LeChevalier wrote
(in message <mk0310lrdkqf0ihq7mbpo918vrra2n294p@4ax.com>):
Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:59:53 -0600, Craig Chilton wrote
(in message <401d520f.6271302@netnews.mchsi.com>):
So *Satan* is responsible for the lies, deceptions, propaganda,
disinformation, hate, vileness, disrespect, and total disregard for
people's rights, well-being, and future opportunities that is constantly
manifested by the pseudo-Christians and deluded Christians of
the RRR Cult? I guess that goes along well, too, with the obvious
fulfillment (by the dishonest nature of the RRR Cult leaders... Gary
Bauer, James Dobson, Beverly La Haye, D. James Kennedy, Jerry
Falwell, Cal Thomas, Donald Wildmon, Pat Robertson, and Chuck
Colson) of the Bible's prophecy that in our day, false teachers would
spring up and deceive a percentage of the people, including Christians.
Okay, I figgered that 2 of the 3 [R's] stand for "religious right" but
what
is the usual word for that third (or first or second) "R"?
Radical R... R...
(assuming your question wasn't rhetorical).
No, I was totally serious, I didn't
know what the third "R" signified.
I only delve into a few of the "practices and wackinesses" of the lunatic
fringe and I don't know what "LLL" stands for either [grin].
It used to be spelled out
in beautiful alliteration.
Do you mean in a "sputtering sycophantic systemic sordid session spearheaded
by Spiro", by any chance? [or on purpose]
lojbab
/gray/
10:21 The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty God.
Robert B. Winn
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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| Title: Re: CREDIT Robert Winn for Identifying the Likely *Source* of the RRR Cult's LIES!! |
24 Jan 2004 12:28:09 AM |
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:21:52 -0600, Robert B. Winn wrote
(in message <7943568.0401232121.7d363182@posting.google.com>):
Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> wrote in message
news:<0001HW.BC36EC0E000DE38D10D2B7A0@news.giganews.com>...
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:24:11 -0600, Bob LeChevalier wrote
(in message <mk0310lrdkqf0ihq7mbpo918vrra2n294p@4ax.com>):
Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:59:53 -0600, Craig Chilton wrote
(in message <401d520f.6271302@netnews.mchsi.com>):
So *Satan* is responsible for the lies, deceptions, propaganda,
disinformation, hate, vileness, disrespect, and total disregard for
people's rights, well-being, and future opportunities that is
constantly
manifested by the pseudo-Christians and deluded Christians of
the RRR Cult? I guess that goes along well, too, with the obvious
fulfillment (by the dishonest nature of the RRR Cult leaders... Gary
Bauer, James Dobson, Beverly La Haye, D. James Kennedy, Jerry
Falwell, Cal Thomas, Donald Wildmon, Pat Robertson, and Chuck
Colson) of the Bible's prophecy that in our day, false teachers would
spring up and deceive a percentage of the people, including
Christians.
Okay, I figgered that 2 of the 3 [R's] stand for "religious right" but
what
is the usual word for that third (or first or second) "R"?
Radical R... R...
(assuming your question wasn't rhetorical).
No, I was totally serious, I didn't
know what the third "R" signified.
I only delve into a few of the "practices and wackinesses" of the lunatic
fringe and I don't know what "LLL" stands for either [grin].
It used to be spelled out
in beautiful alliteration.
Do you mean in a "sputtering sycophantic systemic sordid session
spearheaded
by Spiro", by any chance? [or on purpose]
lojbab
/gray/
10:21 The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty
God.
Robert B. Winn
You better watch out,
You better not cry;
You better not pout
I'm telling you why:
Santa Claus is coming to town.
He's making a list,
Checking it twice,
Gonna find out who's naughty or nice.
Santa Claus is coming to town!
He sees you when you're sleeping,
He knows when you're awake.
He knows if you've been bad or good,
So be good for goodness sake!
Oh! You better watch out,
You better not cry,
You better not pout,
I'm telling you why:
Santa Claus is coming to town!
Written by - J. Fred Coots & Henry Gillespie
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| User: "Robert B. Winn" |
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| Title: Re: CREDIT Robert Winn for Identifying the Likely *Source* of the RRR Cult's LIES!! |
24 Jan 2004 11:00:48 AM |
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Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> wrote in message news:<0001HW.BC376C99002C16FF10D1AC30@news.giganews.com>...
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 23:21:52 -0600, Robert B. Winn wrote
(in message <7943568.0401232121.7d363182@posting.google.com>):
Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> wrote in message
news:<0001HW.BC36EC0E000DE38D10D2B7A0@news.giganews.com>...
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 14:24:11 -0600, Bob LeChevalier wrote
(in message <mk0310lrdkqf0ihq7mbpo918vrra2n294p@4ax.com>):
Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:59:53 -0600, Craig Chilton wrote
(in message <401d520f.6271302@netnews.mchsi.com>):
So *Satan* is responsible for the lies, deceptions, propaganda,
disinformation, hate, vileness, disrespect, and total disregard for
people's rights, well-being, and future opportunities that is
constantly
manifested by the pseudo-Christians and deluded Christians of
the RRR Cult? I guess that goes along well, too, with the obvious
fulfillment (by the dishonest nature of the RRR Cult leaders... Gary
Bauer, James Dobson, Beverly La Haye, D. James Kennedy, Jerry
Falwell, Cal Thomas, Donald Wildmon, Pat Robertson, and Chuck
Colson) of the Bible's prophecy that in our day, false teachers would
spring up and deceive a percentage of the people, including
Christians.
Okay, I figgered that 2 of the 3 [R's] stand for "religious right" but
what
is the usual word for that third (or first or second) "R"?
Radical R... R...
(assuming your question wasn't rhetorical).
No, I was totally serious, I didn't
know what the third "R" signified.
I only delve into a few of the "practices and wackinesses" of the lunatic
fringe and I don't know what "LLL" stands for either [grin].
It used to be spelled out
in beautiful alliteration.
Do you mean in a "sputtering sycophantic systemic sordid session
spearheaded
by Spiro", by any chance? [or on purpose]
lojbab
/gray/
10:21 The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty
God.
Robert B. Winn
You better watch out,
You better not cry;
You better not pout
I'm telling you why:
Santa Claus is coming to town.
He's making a list,
Checking it twice,
Gonna find out who's naughty or nice.
Santa Claus is coming to town!
He sees you when you're sleeping,
He knows when you're awake.
He knows if you've been bad or good,
So be good for goodness sake!
Oh! You better watch out,
You better not cry,
You better not pout,
I'm telling you why:
Santa Claus is coming to town!
Written by - J. Fred Coots & Henry Gillespie
I don't know how to tell you this, but Santa Claus is not a real person.
Robert B. Winn
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