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Sociology > Education |
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26 Mar 2005 05:02:37 PM |
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Eyewitness Testimony Requested by Phil Mathews [ iii ] |
Phil Mathews complains:
No eyewitness descriptions were presented in
a section purporting to "critique" them.
That's because its easier to lie about them when you don't post them!
Well, Phil here's some testimony for ya.
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Testimony of Hans Stark, registrar of new arrivals in the death camp
Auschwitz. Quoted in The Good Old Days - E. Klee, W. Dressen, V.
Riess, The Free Press, NY, 1988, p. 255:
"At another, later gassing - also in autumn 1941- Grabner ordered me
to pour Zyklon B into the opening because only one medical orderly had
shown up. During a gassing Zyklon B had to be poured through both
openings of the gas-chamber room at the same time. This gassing was
also a transport of 200-250 Jews, once again men, women and children.
As the Zyklon B - as already mentioned - was in granular form, it
trickled down over the people as it was being poured in. They then
started to cry out terribly for they now knew what was happening to
them. I did not look through the opening because it had to be closed
as soon as the Zyklon B had been poured in. After a few minutes there
was silence. After some time had passed, it may have been ten to
fifteen minutes, the gas chamber was opened. The dead lay
higgledy-piggedly all over the place. It was a dreadful sight."
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--
Pressac says - that his book:
"... demonstrates the complete bankruptacy of traditional history, a history based
for the most part on testimonies, assembled according to the mood of the moment,
truncated to fit an arbitrary truth and sprinkled with a few German documents of
uneven value and without any connection with one and another." J.C. Pressac
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| Title: Re: Eyewitness Testimony Requested by Phil Mathews [ iii ] |
26 Mar 2005 06:40:05 PM |
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wrote:
Phil Mathews complains:
No eyewitness descriptions were presented in
a section purporting to "critique" them.
That's because its easier to lie about them when you don't post
them!
Well, Phil here's some testimony for ya.
-------------------------------------------------------
Testimony of Hans Stark, registrar of new arrivals in the death camp
Auschwitz. Quoted in The Good Old Days - E. Klee, W. Dressen, V.
Riess, The Free Press, NY, 1988, p. 255:
"At another, later gassing - also in autumn 1941- Grabner ordered me
to pour Zyklon B into the opening because only one medical orderly
had
shown up. During a gassing Zyklon B had to be poured through both
openings of the gas-chamber room at the same time. This gassing was
also a transport of 200-250 Jews, once again men, women and children.
As the Zyklon B - as already mentioned - was in granular form, it
trickled down over the people as it was being poured in. They then
started to cry out terribly for they now knew what was happening to
them. I did not look through the opening because it had to be closed
as soon as the Zyklon B had been poured in. After a few minutes there
was silence. After some time had passed, it may have been ten to
fifteen minutes, the gas chamber was opened. The dead lay
higgledy-piggedly all over the place. It was a dreadful sight."
Yup, and readers will note there is nothing odd about this testimony,
nor nothing which supports the false claims made by Rudolf in the
thread in which no testimonial evidence was presented.
Now we know why!
--
Philip Mathews
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Eyewitness Testimony Requested by Phil Mathews [ iii ] |
27 Mar 2005 10:32:58 AM |
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On 26 Mar 2005 16:40:05 -0800, wrote:
Yup, and readers will note there is nothing odd about this testimony,
nor nothing which supports the false claims made by Rudolf in the
thread in which no testimonial evidence was presented.
Now we know why!
Chamber aired put pretty quick, eh?
After a few minutes there
was silence. After some time had passed, it may have been ten to
fifteen minutes, the gas chamber was opened. The dead lay
higgledy-piggedly all over the place. It was a dreadful sight."
--
Pressac says - that his book:
"... demonstrates the complete bankruptacy of traditional history, a history based
for the most part on testimonies, assembled according to the mood of the moment,
truncated to fit an arbitrary truth and sprinkled with a few German documents of
uneven value and without any connection with one and another." J.C. Pressac
.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Eyewitness Testimony Requested by Phil Mathews [ iii ] |
27 Mar 2005 11:07:37 AM |
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wrote:
On 26 Mar 2005 16:40:05 -0800, wrote:
Yup, and readers will note there is nothing odd about this
testimony,
nor nothing which supports the false claims made by Rudolf in the
thread in which no testimonial evidence was presented.
Now we know why!
Chamber aired put pretty quick, eh?
Try again in English Chrissy.
After a few minutes there
was silence. After some time had passed, it may have been ten to
fifteen minutes, the gas chamber was opened. The dead lay
higgledy-piggedly all over the place. It was a dreadful sight."
Nothing wrong with that I'm afraid Chrissy.
So we see that when forced to actually provide the testimony it shows
how dishonest their claims about it are.
--
Philip Mathews
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Eyewitness Testimony Requested by Phil Mathews [ iii ] |
27 Mar 2005 06:51:36 PM |
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On 27 Mar 2005 09:07:37 -0800, wrote:
scott@free.info wrote:
On 26 Mar 2005 16:40:05 -0800, wrote:
Yup, and readers will note there is nothing odd about this
testimony,
nor nothing which supports the false claims made by Rudolf in the
thread in which no testimonial evidence was presented.
Now we know why!
Chamber aired put pretty quick, eh?
Try again in English Chrissy.
After a few minutes there
was silence. After some time had passed, it may have been ten to
fifteen minutes, the gas chamber was opened. The dead lay
higgledy-piggedly all over the place. It was a dreadful sight."
Nothing wrong with that I'm afraid Chrissy.
Tem to 15 minutes?
So we see that when forced to actually provide the testimony it shows
how dishonest their claims about it are.
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"Sources for the
study of the gas chambers are at once rare and unreliable. Even though
Hitler and the Nazis made no secret of their war on the Jews,"
Arno Mayer
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Eyewitness Testimony Requested by Phil Mathews [ iii ] |
27 Mar 2005 08:25:04 PM |
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wrote:
On 27 Mar 2005 09:07:37 -0800, wrote:
wrote:
On 26 Mar 2005 16:40:05 -0800, wrote:
Yup, and readers will note there is nothing odd about this
testimony,
nor nothing which supports the false claims made by Rudolf in the
thread in which no testimonial evidence was presented.
Now we know why!
Chamber aired put pretty quick, eh?
Try again in English Chrissy.
After a few minutes there
was silence. After some time had passed, it may have been ten to
fifteen minutes, the gas chamber was opened. The dead lay
higgledy-piggedly all over the place. It was a dreadful sight."
Nothing wrong with that I'm afraid Chrissy.
Tem to 15 minutes?
What's wrong with that?
So we see that when forced to actually provide the testimony it
shows
how dishonest their claims about it are.
No response from the idiot!
--
Philip Mathews
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