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Topic: Sociology > Education
User: "Dana"
Date: 05 Jun 2004 10:44:02 PM
Object: 'Hate crimes' bill: Prescription for tyranny
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'Hate crimes' bill: Prescription for tyranny 6/3/2004
By Robert Knight
Hatch-Smith version seeks to make Kennedy bill more passable
Like a bad penny, the proposed federal "hate crimes" law just keeps coming
back.
It doesn't matter that there is no evidence that crimes against homosexuals
are prosecuted any less vigorously than crimes against other victims. It
doesn't matter that actual crimes against homosexuals have declined in
recent years.
Liberal GOP Sens. Orrin Hatch, Utah, and Gordon Smith, Ore., are planning to
bring up a new version of the Kennedy-Smith federal "hate crimes" law, which
has been filed as an amendment to the defense authorization bill.
Proponents of the Hatch-Smith bill insist that their version seeks to
empower state officials to better handle "hate crimes" and that it mitigates
the more radical aspects of the Kennedy-Smith bill. But it still endorses
the concept of "hate crimes," greatly expands federal power and will lead
inevitably to "thought crimes."
Let's agree that we're all against hate and abuse of anybody. Nobody in
America should live in fear. That is what the criminal law is for, and there
is no evidence that it is not working. But "hate crime" laws are fraught
with possibilities for abuse.
Such laws create a multi-tiered system of justice, in which some crime
victims' cases are taken more seriously than others, thus violating the
constitutional guarantee of equal protection.
Seeking federal dollars, police and prosecutors will define more and more
cases as "hate crimes." Expect such crimes to soar. After California enacted
a "hate crimes" law, incidents went from 75 to 2,052 in four years.
In a media- and dollar-driven situation, your grandmother's mugging will not
receive as much attention as the "hate crime" committed against a
homosexual. Both victims deserve the full protection of the law, but the one
that snags the headlines will get more of it.
All citizens who treasure freedom and the fundamental protections afforded
by our legal system should see the latest drive for a federal "hate crimes"
law for what it is: a sop to the homosexual lobby, fresh from its victory in
Massachusetts, where weddings no longer require a bride.
But the real danger of "hate crime" laws is that they criminalize thoughts
and beliefs. The law should concern itself only with actions. Prosecutors
must prove intent, but examining underlying beliefs goes far beyond that.
Let's go to the bottom line: The federal "hate crimes" bill lays the
groundwork for persecution of Christians in this country.
Homosexual activists have redefined any opposition to homosexuality as "hate
speech." Laws already criminalize speech that incites violence. It's easy to
imagine a scenario in which any incident involving a homosexual can be
blamed on people who have publicly opposed homosexual activism.
Imagine what the activists could have done with a "hate crimes" law in 1998,
when Matthew Shepard was beaten to death by two bar-hopping thugs in
Wyoming. Everybody from Katie Couric to the San Francisco city supervisors
blamed the killing on a "climate of hate" fomented by conservative
Christians. Their evidence was newspaper ads from the "Truth in Love"
campaign, in which former homosexuals told their stories of hope and
redemption. Pure hate, according to the liberal chattering classes. Now they
want to put teeth behind their charges.
Because of the publicity surrounding Mathew Shepherd's death, the state
spent a small fortune prosecuting the case and handling media. By contrast,
the rape and murder of 8-year-old Kristin Lamb, whose body was found in a
landfill that same year, did not burden the state in the same way. Should
Mr. Shepherd's killers receive justice? Absolutely. And they did. But
Kristin's case should be at least as important and disturbing.
"Hate crime" tabulation can be quite misleading. Even though crimes based on
religion constitute the second-highest category, according to the FBI, many
such crimes go unreported. Some property crimes against churches are listed
merely as "vandalism," not as "hate crimes."
In Tulsa, for instance, someone wrote the words "kill" and "death" on the
walls of a Catholic elementary school. According to civil-rights attorney
Leah Farish, the perpetrator also wrote "messages referring to devils and to
sex with Christian girls. Pentagrams and the number 666 appeared as well.
But the police said, 'It is not a hate crime per se. In order for it to be a
hate crime, it has to be an act of malicious intention.'"
In Cleveland, Farish notes, shots were fired at a synagogue, "but these were
not reported as hate crimes either." Can you feel the love yet?
A "hate crimes" law can lead to "thought crime" as is found in totalitarian
countries and increasingly in Western nations that have fallen into the
trap.
In Canada and Sweden, it is now a "hate crime" to criticize homosexuality in
any fashion. Canadian broadcasters are forbidden to air any critical
discussion of homosexuality. Private citizens and public officials have been
hauled before "human rights" commissions and threatened with fines and jail
time. In Sweden, a pastor was arrested at his church after he read Bible
verses about homosexuality.
The "gay" lobby is frank about its desire to persecute Christians in America
in just the same way, and this "hate crimes" bill is a key step in that
strategy.
During the Supreme Court hearings in 2000 on the Boy Scout case, pro-life
Rev. Rob Shenk was sitting in the audience next to the White House liaison
for "gay" issues. Thinking the pastor was a fellow liberal, the woman
whispered, "We're not going to win this case, but that's OK. Once we get
'hate crime' laws on the books, we're going to go after the Scouts and all
the other bigots."
This isn't a slippery slope; it's a luge ride toward totalitarianism.
If you value the freedom to speak our minds, you might want to let public
officials know in no uncertain terms how you feel about politicians who aid
and abet the effort to create "thought crimes."
--
Atheism teaches that there is no God, hence no God-given rights. That
ideology coupled with a system that believed in the superiority of the state
at the expense of the individual was murderously synergistic.
.

User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: 'Hate crimes' bill: Prescription for tyranny 07 Jun 2004 11:45:07 AM
In article <5838d752028abb30dbf19a457f06aea3@news.meganetnews.com> "Dana" <#$%@%$#.com> writes:
<http://www.cwfa.org/articles/5755/CFI/family/index.htm
<'Hate crimes' bill: Prescription for tyranny 6/3/2004
<By Robert Knight
<
<Hatch-Smith version seeks to make Kennedy bill more passable
<Like a bad penny, the proposed federal "hate crimes" law just keeps coming
<back.
<It doesn't matter that there is no evidence that crimes against homosexuals
<are prosecuted any less vigorously than crimes against other victims. It
<doesn't matter that actual crimes against homosexuals have declined in
<recent years.
<Liberal GOP Sens. Orrin Hatch, Utah, and Gordon Smith, Ore., are planning to
<bring up a new version of the Kennedy-Smith federal "hate crimes" law, which
<has been filed as an amendment to the defense authorization bill.
<Proponents of the Hatch-Smith bill insist that their version seeks to
<empower state officials to better handle "hate crimes" and that it mitigates
<the more radical aspects of the Kennedy-Smith bill. But it still endorses
<the concept of "hate crimes," greatly expands federal power and will lead
<inevitably to "thought crimes."
Ah, the slippery slope yet once again.
Canada has more stringent hate crimes laws than we do. Germany
has FAR more stringent laws forbidding hate speech than we
do.
I fail to see "thought control" having been put in place
either in Germany or in Canada.
-- cary
.
User: "Server 13"

Title: Re: 'Hate crimes' bill: Prescription for tyranny 07 Jun 2004 12:05:12 PM
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:ca262j$j56$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu...

In article <5838d752028abb30dbf19a457f06aea3@news.meganetnews.com> "Dana"

<#$%@%$#.com> writes:

<http://www.cwfa.org/articles/5755/CFI/family/index.htm
<'Hate crimes' bill: Prescription for tyranny 6/3/2004
<By Robert Knight
<
<Hatch-Smith version seeks to make Kennedy bill more passable
<Like a bad penny, the proposed federal "hate crimes" law just keeps

coming

<back.
<It doesn't matter that there is no evidence that crimes against

homosexuals

<are prosecuted any less vigorously than crimes against other victims. It
<doesn't matter that actual crimes against homosexuals have declined in
<recent years.
<Liberal GOP Sens. Orrin Hatch, Utah, and Gordon Smith, Ore., are planning

to

<bring up a new version of the Kennedy-Smith federal "hate crimes" law,

which

<has been filed as an amendment to the defense authorization bill.
<Proponents of the Hatch-Smith bill insist that their version seeks to
<empower state officials to better handle "hate crimes" and that it

mitigates

<the more radical aspects of the Kennedy-Smith bill. But it still endorses
<the concept of "hate crimes," greatly expands federal power and will lead
<inevitably to "thought crimes."

Ah, the slippery slope yet once again.

Canada has more stringent hate crimes laws than we do. Germany
has FAR more stringent laws forbidding hate speech than we
do.

I fail to see "thought control" having been put in place
either in Germany or in Canada.

It's just the same old excuse - false christians basically want all gays
dead, they just won't say so. If they can't kill them personally, they'll
pervert the law to let others do it.
.
User: "John Tibbs"

Title: Re: 'Hate crimes' bill: Prescription for tyranny 07 Jun 2004 01:14:15 PM
"Server 13" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:ca262j$j56$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu...

In article <5838d752028abb30dbf19a457f06aea3@news.meganetnews.com>

"Dana"

<#$%@%$#.com> writes:

<http://www.cwfa.org/articles/5755/CFI/family/index.htm
<'Hate crimes' bill: Prescription for tyranny 6/3/2004
<By Robert Knight
<
<Hatch-Smith version seeks to make Kennedy bill more passable
<Like a bad penny, the proposed federal "hate crimes" law just keeps

coming

<back.
<It doesn't matter that there is no evidence that crimes against

homosexuals

<are prosecuted any less vigorously than crimes against other victims.

It

<doesn't matter that actual crimes against homosexuals have declined in
<recent years.
<Liberal GOP Sens. Orrin Hatch, Utah, and Gordon Smith, Ore., are

planning

to

<bring up a new version of the Kennedy-Smith federal "hate crimes" law,

which

<has been filed as an amendment to the defense authorization bill.
<Proponents of the Hatch-Smith bill insist that their version seeks to
<empower state officials to better handle "hate crimes" and that it

mitigates

<the more radical aspects of the Kennedy-Smith bill. But it still

endorses

<the concept of "hate crimes," greatly expands federal power and will

lead

<inevitably to "thought crimes."

Ah, the slippery slope yet once again.

Canada has more stringent hate crimes laws than we do. Germany
has FAR more stringent laws forbidding hate speech than we
do.

I fail to see "thought control" having been put in place
either in Germany or in Canada.


It's just the same old excuse - false christians basically want all gays
dead, they just won't say so. If they can't kill them personally, they'll
pervert the law to let others do it.

Your perverted lifestyle is well demonstrated in your post.
jt



.
User: "Server 13"

Title: Re: 'Hate crimes' bill: Prescription for tyranny 07 Jun 2004 01:36:12 PM
"John Tibbs" <jwtibbs@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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"Server 13" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:ca262j$j56$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu...

In article <5838d752028abb30dbf19a457f06aea3@news.meganetnews.com>

"Dana"

<#$%@%$#.com> writes:

<http://www.cwfa.org/articles/5755/CFI/family/index.htm
<'Hate crimes' bill: Prescription for tyranny 6/3/2004
<By Robert Knight
<
<Hatch-Smith version seeks to make Kennedy bill more passable
<Like a bad penny, the proposed federal "hate crimes" law just keeps

coming

<back.
<It doesn't matter that there is no evidence that crimes against

homosexuals

<are prosecuted any less vigorously than crimes against other victims.

It

<doesn't matter that actual crimes against homosexuals have declined

in

<recent years.
<Liberal GOP Sens. Orrin Hatch, Utah, and Gordon Smith, Ore., are

planning

to

<bring up a new version of the Kennedy-Smith federal "hate crimes"

law,

which

<has been filed as an amendment to the defense authorization bill.
<Proponents of the Hatch-Smith bill insist that their version seeks to
<empower state officials to better handle "hate crimes" and that it

mitigates

<the more radical aspects of the Kennedy-Smith bill. But it still

endorses

<the concept of "hate crimes," greatly expands federal power and will

lead

<inevitably to "thought crimes."

Ah, the slippery slope yet once again.

Canada has more stringent hate crimes laws than we do. Germany
has FAR more stringent laws forbidding hate speech than we
do.

I fail to see "thought control" having been put in place
either in Germany or in Canada.


It's just the same old excuse - false christians basically want all

gays

dead, they just won't say so. If they can't kill them personally,

they'll

pervert the law to let others do it.


Your perverted lifestyle is well demonstrated in your post.
jt

Sorry, chief, you're talking to a hetero born-again christian who simply
doesn't like being lied to.
Why do you like being lied to?
.




User: ""

Title: Re: 'Hate crimes' bill: Prescription for tBUTTMAsTER TO WHINE 06 Jun 2004 01:53:17 AM
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 03:44:02 GMT, "Dana" <#$%@%$#.com> wrote:

Hatch-Smith version seeks to make Kennedy bill more passable
Like a bad penny, the proposed federal "hate crimes" law just keeps coming
back.
It doesn't matter that there is no evidence that crimes against homosexuals
are prosecuted any less vigorously than crimes against other victims.

It isn't about that, you dumb *****
It's about assigning seriousness
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