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"Topaz" |
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16 Oct 2007 05:07:13 AM |
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Iran Rocks |
ran Ex-President Rafsanjani Comments on Hitler and Jews
Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301296,00 .html
Hashemi Rafsanjani, former Iranian president and current Chairman of
the Assembly of Experts, said Friday that Hitler's treatment of Jewish
people in Europe was due in part to their being "a pain in the neck."
Rafsanjani's comments came during a sermon for "International
Jerusalem Day" on Iranian TV. Rafsanjani noted that Jews caused
problems for European governments because they "had a lot of property"
and "controlled an empire of propaganda." He also said that the Nazis
were successful in saving Europe from the evil of Zionism.
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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| Title: Re: Iran Rocks |
16 Oct 2007 05:47:21 AM |
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Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> wrote:
ran Ex-President Rafsanjani Comments on Hitler and Jews
Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301296,00 .html
Hashemi Rafsanjani, former Iranian president and current Chairman of
the Assembly of Experts, said Friday that Hitler's treatment of Jewish
people in Europe was due in part to their being "a pain in the neck."
Iran is being a pain in the neck to several other countries. Is
Rafsanjani saying that he wants those countries to treat Iran like
Hitler treated the Jews?
lojbab
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| User: "Topaz" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Iran Rocks |
16 Oct 2007 05:18:14 PM |
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:47:21 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
<lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
Iran is being a pain in the neck to several other countries. Is
Rafsanjani saying that he wants those countries to treat Iran like
Hitler treated the Jews?
Iran is in no way being a pain in the neck to other countries. Even
if they had H-bombs so does a lot of other countries, notably the
Jews. Maybe Iraq would have been safe from the terrorist USA if they
had H-bombs. Talk softly and carry a big stick.
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Iran Rocks |
16 Oct 2007 05:44:27 PM |
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In article <iudah3lohf9bjnk9jqg2kcquj40g351va3@4ax.com> Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> writes:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:47:21 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
<lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
Iran is being a pain in the neck to several other countries. Is
Rafsanjani saying that he wants those countries to treat Iran like
Hitler treated the Jews?
Iran is in no way being a pain in the neck to other countries. Even
if they had H-bombs so does a lot of other countries, notably the
Jews. Maybe Iraq would have been safe from the terrorist USA if they
had H-bombs.
You ARE talking about the same Iran whose war with Iraq in
the late 80s had Iran resorting to using nine year-old
Iranian boys as cannon fodder, right?
-- cary
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| User: "Topaz" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Re: Iran Rocks |
17 Oct 2007 06:03:25 PM |
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On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:44:27 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
You ARE talking about the same Iran whose war with Iraq in
the late 80s had Iran resorting to using nine year-old
Iranian boys as cannon fodder, right?
1 Iraq invaded Iran.
2 War is hell.
3. There is no substitute for victory.
4. You might be a Jew.
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Re: Iran Rocks |
17 Oct 2007 06:42:14 PM |
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Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com>
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:44:27 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
You ARE talking about the same Iran whose war with Iraq in
the late 80s had Iran resorting to using nine year-old
Iranian boys as cannon fodder, right?
1 Iraq invaded Iran.
2 War is hell.
3. There is no substitute for victory.
And my point being, of course, is that neither country has reason
to harbor fond feelings about the other.
4. You might be a Jew.
I might well be. As might you. Few of us know our genealogies
further back than a handful of generations.
-- cary
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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| Title: Re: Iran Rocks |
17 Oct 2007 08:06:27 PM |
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Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> wrote:
1 Iraq invaded Iran.
Germany invaded Russia, but you fault Russia for its actions in
response.
2 War is hell.
A Nazi should be expert in attesting to that fact, being a loser in
war, and being guaranteed a spot in hell.
3. There is no substitute for victory.
Hitler used suicide as his substitute, since victory was not an
option.
4. You might be a Jew.
So might you. After all, you don't have a proven complete family tree
back to before the time of Judah. All it takes is one amidst tens of
thousands of ancestors, and you are as much a mongrel as anyone else.
lojbab
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| User: "Topaz" |
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| Title: Re: Re: Iran Rocks |
18 Oct 2007 04:59:38 PM |
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German leaders believed in death before dishonor. They knew the allies
were subhuman monsters:
Eyewitness account by Mrs. Leonora Geier (nee Cavoa, born Oct 22,
1925, Sao Paulo,
Brazil) to Dr. Trutz Foelsche, Ph.D
Deutsche Nationalzeitung, No. 17-65, p. 7:
"On the morning of February, 16, (1945) a Russian detachment
occupied the RAD
(Reichsarbeitsdienst) camp Vilmsee near Neustettin. The Commissar told
me in good
German language that the camp was dissolved and that we, as a unit
with uniforms (RAD - German Labour Service, not military uniforms),
would be transported to a collection camp. Since I, as a Brazilian
citizen, belong to an allied nation, he asked me to take over
as a leader of the transport that went to Neustettin, into the yard of
the former iron factory. We were about 500 girls (Maidens of the
Reichsarbeitsdienst - German Labour Service).
He said I could come into the orderly room, which I accepted.
Immediately he directed
me to make no further contact with other women, because they were
members of an illegal army. On my response that this what not true, he
cut me off with the remark that I would be shot immediately, if I
would repeat in any form a similar statement.
"Suddenly I heard loud screams, and promptly five girls were brought
in by the two Red Armists. The Commissar ordered them to undress. When
they, in a sense of shame, refused to do so, he ordered me to undress
them and follow him with the girls. We walked through the yard to the
former factory kitchen, which was completely cleared out
except for some tables along the window wall. It was dreadfully cold
and the unfortunate girls trembled. In the huge tiled room several
Russians waited for us who were obviously making obscene remarks
because every word was followed by loud laughter.
The Commissar then directed me to watch how one makes sissies out of
'The Master Race'.
Now two Poles, clad in trousers only, entered the room. At their
sight the girls cried out.
Briskly, they seized the first of the two girls and bent her over with
her back over the edge of the table until her joints cracked. I almost
fainted when one of the men pulled his knife and cut off her right
breast in the presence of the other girls. I have never heard a
human being scream as desperately as this young woman. After this
'operation' both men stabbed her several times in the abdomen,
accompanied by the howling of the Russians.
The next girl cried for mercy, in vain, since she was exceptionally
pretty. I had the impression that the 'work' was carried out very
slowly. The other three girls were completely broken down, cried for
their mothers and begged for a speedy death, but also
fate them overtook.
The last of the girls was still half a child, with barely developed
breasts, one tore the
flesh literally from her ribs until the white bone appeared.
Again, five girls were brought in. This time, they had been selected
carefully. All were
developed and pretty. When they saw the bodies of their predecessors,
they began to cry and scream. Weak as they were, they tried to defend
themselves but to no avail; the Poles became more cruel every time.
One of the girls, they cut open her womb and trunk over the whole
length; poured a can of machine oil into the mutilated body and tried
to set fire
to it. Another was shot in the genitals by a Russia, before they cut
off her breasts.
A great howling began when someone brought a saw from a toolbox.
Now, using the saw, they set to work to the breasts of the girls to
pieces, which in a short period of time
led to the floor being covered with blood. A blood rage seized the
Russians. Continuously
one of them brought more and more girls.
Like a red fog, I saw the gruesome happenings again and again and I
perceived the inhuman screaming at the torture of their breasts and
the load groaning at the mutilation of their private parts. When my
legs failed me I was forced into a chair. The Commissar persistently
watched me to make sure I was looking toward the torture scenes. In
fact, when I had to vomit, they even paused with their tortures. One
girl had not undressed completely, she may have been somewhat older
than the rest of the girls who were about 17-years old. One of the
torturers soaked her bra with oil and ignited it and, while she cried
out, another drove a thin iron rod into her vagina until it emerged at
her naval.
In the yard they liquidated entire groups of girls, after they had
selected the prettiest ones for the torture room. The air was filled
with the death cries of many hundreds of girls. But in view of what
happened here, the slaughter outside could be considered more humane.
It was a dreadful fact that not one of the girls brought into the
torture room lost here consciousness.
In their horror all were equal in their expressions. It was always
the same; the begging for mercy, the high-pitched scream when their
breasts were cut and their genitals mutilated. Several times the
slaughter was interrupted to sweep out the blood and to clear away the
corpses.
That evening I sank into a severe nerve fever. From then on I lack
any recollection
until the moment I awoke in a military hospital. German troops had
recaptured Neustettin temporarily, and had liberated us. As I learned
later, approximately 2,000 girls were murdered during the first three
days of the first round of Russian occupation."
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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