Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <44SdnVZFsJr-Y-3enZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@comcast.com> "H.E. Eickleberry, Jr." <Xeickleberrybooks@comcast.net> writes:

"The Fool" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131477407.930632.233610@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
So, if he is not President, who cares what Jimmy Carter has to say.
After all, he failed an election, and, as you point out, is a common
citizen that apparently cannot create the least bit of peace in any of
the places he goes. You are right. He's a washed up nobody. Why do
you quote the words of nobodies? I can quote nobodies. Do you want me
to?

Wow. What an *****.

Jimmy Carter became a better man AFTER he was president because all of the
ambition was used up--he had time to work on being a Christian rather than a
politician.

Hence, what Jimmy says now is more pertinent than what he said when he was
president. I listened to him on Charley Rose the other night, and he has
finally awaken from the fundamentalist nightmare.

Good for him.

P.S. "The Fool" is a good name for you.

Oh, I don't think Ken is as much ragging on Carter as he is
trying to shore up his contention that Carter is somehow
still a Presidantal Figure, and thus liberals who do not object
to Carter's frequent references to religion -- merely because
Carter does things which liberals approve of, such as trying
to feed the poor, heal the sick, and make peace -- are
acting hypocritically.

-- cary

Of course, no conservative does those things...right? Should I mention
that Carter's foundation is at a conservative bible school or not.

Mickey <mickey_and_edith@nomorephishsbcglobal.net> wrote:

Bob LeChevalier wrote:

"The Fool" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

So, if he is not President, who cares what Jimmy Carter has to say.

Probably a lot more people than care what YOU have to say. You were
never elected to anything.

Nor was Albert Einstein nor Mother Teresa etc..

They also were granted the Peace Prize

Jimmy Carter is a Nobel peace Prize winner, BTW, and gains
considerable respect and an audience by virtue of that recognition

Maybe he can share some of his audience with Harold Pinter, one of this
year's winners,

Harold Pinter did not win the Nobel Peace Prize.

whose plays have not been all that popular this last
decade or so... His poetry's even less interesting.

Obviously some people find them interesting, or he would not have
gotten the prize.

After all, he failed an election, and, as you point out, is a common
citizen that apparently cannot create the least bit of peace in any of
the places he goes.

The Nobel Committee obviously disagrees with you.

They have never been elected to anything here, either, now that you
mention it.

Not "here" (which isn't a relevant claim anyway), but in fact the
Nobel Committee is elected by the Norwegian Parliament, and 4 of the 5
members are currently members of that Parliament (the other has also
held political office).

lojbab

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He's a nobody who in his life as a civilian has probably done more
to promote world peace, democratic elections, and the worldwide
relief of poverty than any sitting president, himself included,
ever did.

Name one place he's gone on a peace mission that is currently
experiencing peace...just one.

Name one place where Jesus went where people no longer sin. Dope this
mean that Jesus is a failure at fighting sin?

But to answer your question:
Israel and Egypt are no longer at war.
Bosnia is no longer at war
Haiti is no longer in revolt.
Nicaragua has had peaceful elections.
A probably inevitable war with North Korea hasn't happened yet.

In the meantime, a lot of houses have been built for the poor.

But if you still want to criticize, what have YOU done that has
successfully promoted world peace, or housing for the poor.

I'd say that this alone makes him worthy of some attention. That
he does it all in Christ's name would seem to make it worthy
of your attention.

I've never heard Carter say once that it was for Christ. Can you give
me a link to where he says it?

We should live our lives as though Christ were coming this afternoon.
Jimmy Carter, Speech in March 1976

Excerpts from an interview, which you can read in full at:
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/JimmyCarterChristianRightIsntChristian.html
<When I was younger, almost all Baptists were strongly committed on a
< theological basis to the separation of church and state. It was only
< 25 years ago when there began to be a melding of the Republican Party
< with fundamentalist Christianity, particularly with the Southern
< Baptist Convention. This is a fairly new development, and I think it
< was brought about by the abandonment of some of the basic principles
< of Christianity.
<
<First of all, we worship the prince of peace, not war. And those of us
< who have advocated for the resolution of international conflict in a
< peaceful fashion are looked upon as being unpatriotic, branded that
< way by right-wing religious groups, the Bush administration, and
< other Republicans.
<
<Secondly, Christ was committed to compassion for the most destitute,
< poor, needy, and forgotten people in our society. Today there is a
< stark difference [between conservative ideology and Christian
< teaching] because most of the people most strongly committed to the
< Republican philosophy have adopted the proposition that help for the
< rich is the best way to help even poor people (by letting some of the
< financial benefits drip down to those most deeply in need). I would
< say there has been a schism drawn -- on theology and practical
< politics and economics between the two groups.

He's a prominent figure who tries to accomplish the very kinds of thing that
Jesus demanded, decent housing for those who could not otherwise afford it being
the foremost example. Less well known, but probably of greater impact,
are his campaigns to alleviate the ravages of such diseases as shistosomiasis
and Guinea worm disease.

Jesus demanded decent housing?

Mat 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go [and] sell
that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in
heaven: and come [and] follow me.

Luk 14:13 But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the
lame, the blind:

Saying you are a Christian doesn't make you one.

Think about yourself when you say that.

lojbab