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29 May 2004 01:35:43 PM |
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"Liberal" Media's Repugnant Mentality & Attitudes |
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the enemy while
their country is at war? This question is coming up with increasing
frequency as the troubles in Iraq continue.
The May 15 issue of the British magazine The Spectator published an
article [free reg. req.] by Daily Telegraph correspondent Toby
Harnden, recounting a conversation he had with an unnamed "American
magazine journalist of serious accomplishment and impeccable liberal
credentials."
According to Harnden, "Not only had she 'known' the Iraq war would
fail, but she considered it essential that it did so because this
would ensure that the `evil' George W. Bush would no longer be running
her country. Her editors back on the East Coast were giggling, she
said, over what a disaster Iraq had turned out to be. `Lots of us talk
about how awful it would be if this worked out.' " Harnden goes on to
say that when he asked the woman if "thousands more dead Iraqis would
be a good thing," her answer was, essentially, yes.
If this story—tailor-made to confirm every conservative's worst
suspicions about the media establishment—is true, it illustrates a
repugnant mentality. But some of those criticizing such attitudes
reveal a mindset that, in some ways, is equally misguided. On the
widely read Instapundit.com weblog, University of Tennessee law
professor Glenn Reynolds writes, "To explain things in words of few
syllables: It's wrong to root for your country's defeat." Reynolds
adds that it's especially wrong "when that defeat would mean the death
of innocents" and "when it's merely for domestic political advantage."
It's hard to disagree with the last two statements. But what about the
sweeping assertion that rooting for your country's defeat is wrong?
This view is hardly limited to Reynolds alone. The other day on the
Fox News Channel news show From the Heartland, while interviewing
left-wing cartoonist Ted Rall, host and former congressman John Kasich
expressed dismay and shock that anyone could root against their own
country in a war.
Yet what if your country, or your government, is engaged in a war that
is unjust and immoral? What if it's your country that is wantonly
killing innocents, as well as sacrificing the lives of its own
soldiers for no good reason?
I should point out that none of this, in my view, is true of the war
in Iraq. History's final verdict on this war is still a long way from
being in. Yet, it is an indisputable fact that, for good or bad
reasons, we went to war against a brutal, sadistic regime in Iraq—a
regime that was the worst enemy of its own people. It is also a fact
that, for the most part, the United States has gone to great lengths
to avoid injury and death to civilians. Indeed, despite all the
troubles, polls have shown that a majority of Iraqis still believe
that the US-led war was right and that it has made their lives better.
I should also note that in this case, the gloating over our failures
in Iraq can be downright obscene. Rall, who debated Kasich on war and
patriotism on Fox News, has mocked former football player Pat Tillman,
killed in action in Afghanistan, as a "sap" who joined the army after
the Sept. 11 attacks because he wanted to "kill Arabs."
Michael Moore, the so-called documentary filmmaker, compares the Iraqi
insurgents—who indiscriminately kill their own compatriots—to the
fighters of the American revolution. He also states that US forces
should stay in Iraq because we must pay with our blood for this war.
None of these folks show much concern for the Iraqis victimized by
Saddam Hussein and his minions, or by the terrorists today.
["liberal compassion???~nan]
But "my country, right or wrong" is not an answer to these ideologues.
Such an attitude is worthy of the Soviet Union (where, surely, it
wasn't wrong for dissidents to root against their government during
the war in Czechoslovakia in 1968 or in Afghanistan in the 1980s), not
of a free country.
Ironically, the same conservatives who believe that no decent American
can sympathize with the other side during a war also generally believe
that our troops in Iraq deserve the support of the Iraqis because we
liberated them from an evil regime. Yet, following their logic,
patriotic Iraqis would have had to support a homegrown tyrant over
foreign occupation.
The difference, of course, is that we're not a dictatorship. So let's
not demand mindless, knee-jerk patriotism as if we were. I want to
support my country because it's right, not just because it's mine.
Cathy Young is a Reason contributing editor. This column appeared in
the Boston Globe on May 24, 2004.
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02 Jun 2004 04:00:10 AM |
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the enemy while
their country is at war?
You bet.
They're liberals. That's what liberals do.
This question is coming up with increasing
frequency as the troubles in Iraq continue.
America is dumping the news media because of their liberalism.
PEW and "Editor and Publisher" both have recent articles exposing the
liberal frauds for what they are.
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| User: "ronin" |
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29 May 2004 04:28:40 PM |
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the enemy while
their country is at war? This question is coming up with increasing
frequency as the troubles in Iraq continue.
It's much easier to blame liberals thatn to take a herd look at the failures
of your leadership isn't it?
Don't let the hard work of actual thought get in the way of your smear,
losers.
The May 15 issue of the British magazine The Spectator published an
article [free reg. req.] by Daily Telegraph correspondent Toby
Harnden, recounting a conversation he had with an unnamed "American
magazine journalist of serious accomplishment and impeccable liberal
credentials."
According to Harnden, "Not only had she 'known' the Iraq war would
fail, but she considered it essential that it did so because this
would ensure that the `evil' George W. Bush would no longer be running
her country. Her editors back on the East Coast were giggling, she
said, over what a disaster Iraq had turned out to be. `Lots of us talk
about how awful it would be if this worked out.' " Harnden goes on to
say that when he asked the woman if "thousands more dead Iraqis would
be a good thing," her answer was, essentially, yes.
If this story-tailor-made to confirm every conservative's worst
suspicions about the media establishment-is true, it illustrates a
repugnant mentality. But some of those criticizing such attitudes
reveal a mindset that, in some ways, is equally misguided. On the
widely read Instapundit.com weblog, University of Tennessee law
professor Glenn Reynolds writes, "To explain things in words of few
syllables: It's wrong to root for your country's defeat." Reynolds
adds that it's especially wrong "when that defeat would mean the death
of innocents" and "when it's merely for domestic political advantage."
It's hard to disagree with the last two statements. But what about the
sweeping assertion that rooting for your country's defeat is wrong?
Faulty premise - it assumes anyone is 'rooting for defeat'.
You shouldn't have been there in the first place.
That's the first failure that led to the rest.
This view is hardly limited to Reynolds alone. The other day on the
Fox News Channel news show From the Heartland, while interviewing
left-wing cartoonist Ted Rall, host and former congressman John Kasich
expressed dismay and shock that anyone could root against their own
country in a war.
Yet what if your country, or your government, is engaged in a war that
is unjust and immoral? What if it's your country that is wantonly
killing innocents, as well as sacrificing the lives of its own
soldiers for no good reason?
I should point out that none of this, in my view, is true of the war
in Iraq. History's final verdict on this war is still a long way from
being in. Yet, it is an indisputable fact that, for good or bad
reasons, we went to war against a brutal, sadistic regime in Iraq-a
regime that was the worst enemy of its own people.
And did so with the assistance of Reagan and Bush I.
It is also a fact
that, for the most part, the United States has gone to great lengths
to avoid injury and death to civilians. Indeed, despite all the
troubles, polls have shown that a majority of Iraqis still believe
that the US-led war was right and that it has made their lives better.
I should also note that in this case, the gloating over our failures
in Iraq can be downright obscene. Rall, who debated Kasich on war and
patriotism on Fox News, has mocked former football player Pat Tillman,
killed in action in Afghanistan, as a "sap" who joined the army after
the Sept. 11 attacks because he wanted to "kill Arabs."
Tillman was killed by friendly fire.
Michael Moore, the so-called documentary filmmaker, compares the Iraqi
insurgents-who indiscriminately kill their own compatriots-to the
fighters of the American revolution. He also states that US forces
should stay in Iraq because we must pay with our blood for this war.
None of these folks show much concern for the Iraqis victimized by
Saddam Hussein and his minions, or by the terrorists today.
Reagan didn't either.
The US government voted against a UN resolution condemning SH's gassing of
the Kurds.
["liberal compassion???~nan]
But "my country, right or wrong" is not an answer to these ideologues.
This simplistic attitude blinds those who believe it.
It also makes you vulnerable.
The key to success is to acknowledge the failures and how they've damaged
you in the longterm.
The Soviets refused to in Afghanistan.
The British refused to in Iraq in 1919-21.
The US right is refusing to now.
Such an attitude is worthy of the Soviet Union (where, surely, it
wasn't wrong for dissidents to root against their government during
the war in Czechoslovakia in 1968 or in Afghanistan in the 1980s), not
of a free country.
Ironically, the same conservatives who believe that no decent American
can sympathize with the other side during a war also generally believe
that our troops in Iraq deserve the support of the Iraqis because we
liberated them from an evil regime. Yet, following their logic,
patriotic Iraqis would have had to support a homegrown tyrant over
foreign occupation.
The difference, of course, is that we're not a dictatorship. So let's
not demand mindless, knee-jerk patriotism as if we were. I want to
support my country because it's right, not just because it's mine.
Cathy Young is a Reason contributing editor. This column appeared in
the Boston Globe on May 24, 2004.
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| User: "KRP" |
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30 May 2004 07:57:58 AM |
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the enemy while
their country is at war? This question is coming up with increasing
frequency as the troubles in Iraq continue.
It's much easier to blame liberals thatn to take a herd look at the
failures
of your leadership isn't it?
Bush's many "failures" aside for the moment, does not change the misdeeds of
the far left in the process. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Which polar extremists always seem to miss. Both the right and the left.
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| User: "ronin" |
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30 May 2004 06:44:54 PM |
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the enemy while
their country is at war? This question is coming up with increasing
frequency as the troubles in Iraq continue.
It's much easier to blame liberals thatn to take a herd look at the
failures
of your leadership isn't it?
Bush's many "failures" aside for the moment, does not change the misdeeds
of
the far left in the process.
What 'far left'?
Two wrongs don't make a right.
There definitely won't be any more Bushes in the WH, except maybe on a tour.
Which polar extremists always seem to miss. Both the right and the left.
Tell it to the failed and discredited neocons.
Now go take back the Republican party from them.
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| User: "nan" |
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06 Jun 2004 04:24:01 PM |
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the enemy while
their country is at war? This question is coming up with increasing
frequency as the troubles in Iraq continue.
It's much easier to blame liberals thatn to take a herd look at the
failures
of your leadership isn't it?
Bush's many "failures" aside for the moment, does not change the misdeeds of
the far left in the process. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Which polar extremists always seem to miss. Both the right and the left.
Well said! That's why I am a Libertarian. The Right and the Left
nullify each other. Libertarism is a higher calling.
Regards, from Nan
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| User: "Grain of Sand" |
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07 Jun 2004 10:20:27 AM |
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In article <8f49fa86.0406061324.62adcfa8@posting.google.com>,
(nan) wrote:
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the enemy while
their country is at war? This question is coming up with increasing
frequency as the troubles in Iraq continue.
It's much easier to blame liberals thatn to take a herd look at the
failures
of your leadership isn't it?
Bush's many "failures" aside for the moment, does not change the misdeeds
of
the far left in the process. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Which polar extremists always seem to miss. Both the right and the left.
Well said! That's why I am a Libertarian. The Right and the Left
nullify each other. Libertarism is a higher calling.
Yeah, great, capitalism with no government. Replacing democracy wwith
totalitarianism.
-----------------------------------------
Anarchy: It's not what you think it is!
http://www.infoshop.org/faq/index.html
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| User: "Larry Heath" |
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29 May 2004 03:50:05 PM |
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Indeed, despite all the
troubles, polls have shown that a majority of Iraqis still believe
that the US-led war was right and that it has made their lives better.
I would like to see link(s) to the polls that this quote can be attributed
to.
Larry
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| User: "Bradley K. Sherman" |
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29 May 2004 01:49:52 PM |
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In article <8f49fa86.0405291035.404f0cfd@posting.google.com>,
nan <nanleecro@hotmail.com> wrote:
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the enemy while
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
--bks
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| User: "ronin" |
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29 May 2004 04:29:41 PM |
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"Bradley K. Sherman" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
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In article <8f49fa86.0405291035.404f0cfd@posting.google.com>,
nan <nanleecro@hotmail.com> wrote:
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the enemy while
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
Thinking makes the rightwingers's heads hurt.
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| User: "George" |
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02 Jun 2004 04:01:10 AM |
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In article <8f49fa86.0405291035.404f0cfd@posting.google.com>,
nan <nanleecro@hotmail.com> wrote:
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the enemy while
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
How about Kanada? The Islamomaggot's paradise. Sharia law now applies.....
Thinking makes the rightwingers's heads hurt.
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| User: "ronin" |
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03 Jun 2004 01:57:21 AM |
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In article <8f49fa86.0405291035.404f0cfd@posting.google.com>,
nan <nanleecro@hotmail.com> wrote:
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the enemy
while
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
How about Kanada? The Islamomaggot's paradise. Sharia law now
applies.....
This George guy cracks me up, with his little posts from the public library
computers...
Thinking makes the rightwingers's heads hurt.
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| User: "George" |
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04 Jun 2004 06:33:13 AM |
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In article <8f49fa86.0405291035.404f0cfd@posting.google.com>,
nan <nanleecro@hotmail.com> wrote:
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the enemy
while
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
How about Kanada? The Islamomaggot's paradise. Sharia law now
applies.....
This George guy cracks me up, with his little posts from the public
library
computers...
Guffaw.
Do you know that you've violated Canadian law by posting your hate speech
here? Watch out of the RCMP *will* be coming to YOUR public library and
arrest you.
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| User: "Jd" |
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| Title: Re: "Liberal" Media's Repugnant Mentality & Attitudes |
07 Jun 2004 11:27:51 PM |
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George wrote:
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In article <8f49fa86.0405291035.404f0cfd@posting.google.com>,
nan <nanleecro@hotmail.com> wrote:
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the enemy
while
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
How about Kanada? The Islamomaggot's paradise. Sharia law now
applies.....
This George guy cracks me up, with his little posts from the public
library
computers...
Guffaw.
Do you know that you've violated Canadian law by posting your hate speech
here? Watch out of the RCMP *will* be coming to YOUR public library and
arrest you.
Ummm excuse me but most of us don't live in Canada or Germany with the
rest of you cowards who'll let just anyone decide what you can say.
Sodomy is detestable, nasty, and against nature.
I say that only to to show that someone has acquired some sort of
power over your verbal abilities, and to give anyone who has balls
enough the chance of slamming your reply which will undoubedly be....
ungodly.
Jd
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| User: "George" |
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07 Jun 2004 11:44:57 PM |
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"Jd" <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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George wrote:
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In article <8f49fa86.0405291035.404f0cfd@posting.google.com>,
nan <nanleecro@hotmail.com> wrote:
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the enemy
while
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
How about Kanada? The Islamomaggot's paradise. Sharia law now
applies.....
This George guy cracks me up, with his little posts from the public
library
computers...
Guffaw.
Do you know that you've violated Canadian law by posting your hate speech
here? Watch out of the RCMP *will* be coming to YOUR public library and
arrest you.
Ummm excuse me but most of us don't live in Canada or Germany with the
rest of you cowards who'll let just anyone decide what you can say.
Sodomy is detestable, nasty, and against nature.
I say that only to to show that someone has acquired some sort of
power over your verbal abilities, and to give anyone who has balls
enough the chance of slamming your reply which will undoubedly be....
ungodly.
Jd
Yawn...
Was there someone posting here?
I thought I heard a a frog whimpering....Nope.
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| User: "ronin" |
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08 Jun 2004 04:12:03 AM |
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In article <8f49fa86.0405291035.404f0cfd@posting.google.com>,
nan <nanleecro@hotmail.com> wrote:
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the
enemy
while
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
How about Kanada? The Islamomaggot's paradise. Sharia law now
applies.....
This George guy cracks me up, with his little posts from the public
library
computers...
Guffaw.
Do you know that you've violated Canadian law by posting your hate
speech
here? Watch out of the RCMP *will* be coming to YOUR public library
and
arrest you.
Double guffaw.
You don't know ***** all about 'hate speech'.
I'm not the one who posted 'islamofaggot', am I?
Ummm excuse me but most of us don't live in Canada or Germany with the
rest of you cowards who'll let just anyone decide what you can say.
Sodomy is detestable, nasty, and against nature.
I say that only to to show that someone has acquired some sort of
power over your verbal abilities, and to give anyone who has balls
enough the chance of slamming your reply which will undoubedly be....
ungodly.
Jd
Yawn...
Was there someone posting here?
I thought I heard a a frog whimpering....Nope.
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In article <8f49fa86.0405291035.404f0cfd@posting.google.com>,
nan <nanleecro@hotmail.com> wrote:
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the
enemy
while
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
How about Kanada? The Islamomaggot's paradise. Sharia law now
applies.....
This George guy cracks me up, with his little posts from the public
library
computers...
Guffaw.
Do you know that you've violated Canadian law by posting your hate
speech
here? Watch out of the RCMP *will* be coming to YOUR public library
and
arrest you.
Double guffaw.
I'll see you and raise you one guffaw. GUFFAW! That's THREE Guffaws to
you.
You don't know ***** all about 'hate speech'.
Yawn.
I know it when YOUR side practices it -- every day here on Usenet when you
people call a conservative or Republican a "Nazi", "fascist",
"goosestepper", and the like. Or when you call Bush (and now Reagan)
names.
I'm not the one who posted 'islamofaggot', am I?
No. But you SUPPORT them. You take their side. And Kanada *IS* where our
enemies like to sneak in from, now that we've started tightening up our
borders.
"You are with us or you are with the terrorists."
It really *is* a simple concept -- one that your conservatives understand
and who, if elected into power, will adopt. I forgot which conservative
said it, but it went something like this: "we have to stand shoulder to
shoulder with the United States so when necessary, we can stand eye to eye."
Canada has turned it's back on its greatest trading partner and the ally who
DEFENDED it with it's nuclear umbrella for more than 5 decades. And your
southern neighbors have long memories....I promise you!
You'd be a traitor if you were an American citizen -- so I'll just have to
content myself with applying descriptive language to more closely expose you
Canadian liberals for what you all are.
Now, don't you have your armpits to braid?
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In article
<8f49fa86.0405291035.404f0cfd@posting.google.com>,
nan <nanleecro@hotmail.com> wrote:
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the
enemy
while
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
How about Kanada? The Islamomaggot's paradise. Sharia law now
applies.....
This George guy cracks me up, with his little posts from the
public
library
computers...
Guffaw.
Do you know that you've violated Canadian law by posting your hate
speech
here? Watch out of the RCMP *will* be coming to YOUR public
library
and
arrest you.
Double guffaw.
I'll see you and raise you one guffaw. GUFFAW! That's THREE Guffaws to
you.
You don't know ***** all about 'hate speech'.
Yawn.
I know it when YOUR side practices it -- every day here on Usenet when you
people call a conservative or Republican a "Nazi", "fascist",
"goosestepper", and the like.
Or when you call Bush (and now Reagan)
names.
They earned those names fair and square.
I'm not the one who posted 'islamofaggot', am I?
No. But you SUPPORT them. You take their side.
Just 'cause you keep assuming that doesn't make it true.
BTW, how's Bush's pals, the terrorist supporting Saudi royals?
You do know that Bush's first business was bankrolled by a Bin Laden, don't
you?
And Kanada *IS* where our
enemies like to sneak in from, now that we've started tightening up our
borders.
Horse hockey. The 9/11 guys lived in your country for months.
And Ressam didn't get through in 1999. He was caught.
"You are with us or you are with the terrorists."
Which side is Bush on then (according to your dumbed down logic), with his
and papa Bush's ties with the Saudi royals and Pakistan's dictatorship, both
of whom financed terrorist groups?
It really *is* a simple concept -- one that your conservatives understand
and who, if elected into power, will adopt.
They already shot themselves in the foot - one of their candidates compared
pro-choicers to the guys that killed Nick Berg. That's the kiss of death up
here.
I forgot which conservative
said it, but it went something like this: "we have to stand shoulder to
shoulder with the United States so when necessary, we can stand eye to
eye."
It was Liberal - Paul Martin.
Canada has turned it's back on its greatest trading partner and the ally
who
DEFENDED it with it's nuclear umbrella for more than 5 decades. And your
southern neighbors have long memories....I promise you!
Since when?
We have thousands of soldiers fighting alonside yours in Afghanistan. Right
now.
We were in GWII in '91 too, dumbass.
We didn't go into Iraq because we didn't buy your leader's WMD *****.
We were right - Bush and the neocons were wrong.
Or did you forget that war, like the chimp Bush?
So much for your memory....
You'd be a traitor if you were an American citizen -- so I'll just have to
content myself with applying descriptive language to more closely expose
you
Canadian liberals for what you all are.
???
Now, don't you have your armpits to braid?
????
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In article
<8f49fa86.0405291035.404f0cfd@posting.google.com>,
nan <nanleecro@hotmail.com> wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for
the
enemy
while
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
How about Kanada? The Islamomaggot's paradise. Sharia law
now
applies.....
This George guy cracks me up, with his little posts from the
public
library
computers...
Guffaw.
Do you know that you've violated Canadian law by posting your
hate
speech
here? Watch out of the RCMP *will* be coming to YOUR public
library
and
arrest you.
Double guffaw.
I'll see you and raise you one guffaw. GUFFAW! That's THREE Guffaws to
you.
You don't know ***** all about 'hate speech'.
Yawn.
I know it when YOUR side practices it -- every day here on Usenet when
you
people call a conservative or Republican a "Nazi", "fascist",
"goosestepper", and the like.
Or when you call Bush (and now Reagan)
names.
They earned those names fair and square.
Just you earned YOUR names, fair and square.
/´¯/)
,/¯ /
/ /
/´¯/' '/´¯¯`·¸
/'/ / / /¨¯\
('( ´ ´ ¯~/' ')
\ ' ~ /
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In article
<8f49fa86.0405291035.404f0cfd@posting.google.com>,
nan <nanleecro@hotmail.com> wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for
the
enemy
while
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
How about Kanada? The Islamomaggot's paradise. Sharia law
now
applies.....
This George guy cracks me up, with his little posts from the
public
library
computers...
Guffaw.
Do you know that you've violated Canadian law by posting your
hate
speech
here? Watch out of the RCMP *will* be coming to YOUR public
library
and
arrest you.
Double guffaw.
I'll see you and raise you one guffaw. GUFFAW! That's THREE Guffaws
to
you.
You don't know ***** all about 'hate speech'.
Yawn.
I know it when YOUR side practices it -- every day here on Usenet when
you
people call a conservative or Republican a "Nazi", "fascist",
"goosestepper", and the like.
Or when you call Bush (and now Reagan)
names.
They earned those names fair and square.
Just you earned YOUR names, fair and square.
/´¯/)
,/¯ /
/ /
/´¯/' '/´¯¯`·¸
/'/ / / /¨¯\
('( ´ ´ ¯~/' ')
\ ' ~ /
'' \ _ ·´
\ (
\ \
Oh. Real adult.
What'ya gonna do next, threaten to shoot me again?
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In article
<8f49fa86.0405291035.404f0cfd@posting.google.com>,
nan <nanleecro@hotmail.com> wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting
for
the
enemy
while
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
How about Kanada? The Islamomaggot's paradise. Sharia
law
now
applies.....
This George guy cracks me up, with his little posts from
the
public
library
computers...
Guffaw.
Do you know that you've violated Canadian law by posting your
hate
speech
here? Watch out of the RCMP *will* be coming to YOUR public
library
and
arrest you.
Double guffaw.
I'll see you and raise you one guffaw. GUFFAW! That's THREE
Guffaws
to
you.
You don't know ***** all about 'hate speech'.
Yawn.
I know it when YOUR side practices it -- every day here on Usenet
when
you
people call a conservative or Republican a "Nazi", "fascist",
"goosestepper", and the like.
Or when you call Bush (and now Reagan)
names.
They earned those names fair and square.
Just you earned YOUR names, fair and square.
/´¯/)
,/¯ /
/ /
/´¯/' '/´¯¯`·¸
/'/ / / /¨¯\
('( ´ ´ ¯~/' ')
\ ' ~ /
'' \ _ ·´
\ (
\ \
Oh. Real adult.
What'ya gonna do next, threaten to shoot me again?
Did I threaten to shoot the first time?
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In article
<8f49fa86.0405291035.404f0cfd@posting.google.com>,
nan <nanleecro@hotmail.com> wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting
for
the
enemy
while
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
How about Kanada? The Islamomaggot's paradise. Sharia
law
now
applies.....
This George guy cracks me up, with his little posts from
the
public
library
computers...
Guffaw.
Do you know that you've violated Canadian law by posting
your
hate
speech
here? Watch out of the RCMP *will* be coming to YOUR
public
library
and
arrest you.
Double guffaw.
I'll see you and raise you one guffaw. GUFFAW! That's THREE
Guffaws
to
you.
You don't know ***** all about 'hate speech'.
Yawn.
I know it when YOUR side practices it -- every day here on Usenet
when
you
people call a conservative or Republican a "Nazi", "fascist",
"goosestepper", and the like.
Or when you call Bush (and now Reagan)
names.
They earned those names fair and square.
Just you earned YOUR names, fair and square.
/´¯/)
,/¯ /
/ /
/´¯/' '/´¯¯`·¸
/'/ / / /¨¯\
('( ´ ´ ¯~/' ')
\ ' ~ /
'' \ _ ·´
\ (
\ \
Oh. Real adult.
What'ya gonna do next, threaten to shoot me again?
Did I threaten to shoot the first time?
I confused you with another foamer Bushite. Apologies.
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| Title: Re: "Liberal" Media's Repugnant Mentality & Attitudes |
08 Jun 2004 03:22:06 PM |
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"George" <spamfree@nospam.forme.tv> wrote:
You don't know ***** all about 'hate speech'.
Yawn.
I know it when YOUR side practices it -- every day here on Usenet when you
people call a conservative or Republican a "Nazi", "fascist",
"goosestepper", and the like. Or when you call Bush (and now Reagan)
names.
But somehow when your side uses "islamofaggot" and of course the ever
popular "liberal" and "socialist" and "feminazi", or specifically from
your post below, "Kanada" and "traitor" and "armpits to braid", that
is something above "hate speech".
I'm not the one who posted 'islamofaggot', am I?
No. But you SUPPORT them. You take their side.
Not necessarily. But when someone calls them names like that, others
not in goosestep with the name-caller aren't going to side with him.
"You are with us or you are with the terrorists."
It really *is* a simple concept -- one that your conservatives understand
and who, if elected into power, will adopt. I forgot which conservative
said it, but it went something like this: "we have to stand shoulder to
shoulder with the United States so when necessary, we can stand eye to eye."
Canada has turned it's back on its greatest trading partner and the ally who
DEFENDED it with it's nuclear umbrella for more than 5 decades.
That was because they felt it necessary this time to stand eye to eye.
If they cannot do so when they feel it necessary, then "standing
shoulder to shoulder" is really "kneeling lips to *****".
And your southern neighbors have long memories....I promise you!
We need their markets as much as they need ours.
You'd be a traitor if you were an American citizen
That's your error. Disagreeing with the government in the United
States is NOT treason, but instead is one of our fundamental freedoms
for which we fight wars.
lojbab
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lojbab
Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group
(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org
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08 Jun 2004 06:46:10 PM |
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"George" <spamfree@nospam.forme.tv> wrote:
You don't know ***** all about 'hate speech'.
Yawn.
I know it when YOUR side practices it -- every day here on Usenet when
you
people call a conservative or Republican a "Nazi", "fascist",
"goosestepper", and the like. Or when you call Bush (and now Reagan)
names.
But somehow when your side uses "islamofaggot" and of course the ever
popular "liberal" and "socialist" and "feminazi", or specifically from
your post below, "Kanada" and "traitor" and "armpits to braid", that
is something above "hate speech".
It's called "speaking down to them at the level they are most comfortable
with."
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08 Jun 2004 11:48:58 PM |
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"George" <spamfree@nospam.forme.tv> wrote:
But somehow when your side uses "islamofaggot" and of course the ever
popular "liberal" and "socialist" and "feminazi", or specifically from
your post below, "Kanada" and "traitor" and "armpits to braid", that
is something above "hate speech".
It's called "speaking down to them at the level they are most comfortable
with."
And it never occurs to you that they are "speaking down to you at the
level you are most comfortable with"?
Partisan politics has become a tit-for-tat game where anything you can
do they can do nastier, and vice versa. The wise ones will be the
ones who decide that comity is better than civil war.
lojbab
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lojbab
Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group
(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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| Title: Re: "Liberal" Media's Repugnant Mentality & Attitudes |
08 Jun 2004 06:17:44 AM |
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Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
Do you know that you've violated Canadian law by posting your hate speech
here? Watch out of the RCMP *will* be coming to YOUR public library and
arrest you.
Ummm excuse me but most of us don't live in Canada or Germany with the
rest of you cowards who'll let just anyone decide what you can say.
That doesn't matter. If we can arrest criminals from overseas, why
can't they?
Sodomy is detestable, nasty, and against nature.
Idiocy and bigotry are more detestable and nasty, but unfortunately
all too natural to some people.
lojbab
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lojbab
Bob LeChevalier, Founder, The Logical Language Group
(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org
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| User: "pondo sinatra" |
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| Title: Re: "Liberal" Media's Repugnant Mentality & Attitudes |
29 May 2004 06:38:31 PM |
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"ronin" <ronin@ree.tv> wrote in message
news:9h7uc.617588$oR5.168437@pd7tw3no...
"Bradley K. Sherman" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
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In article <8f49fa86.0405291035.404f0cfd@posting.google.com>,
nan <nanleecro@hotmail.com> wrote:
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the enemy while
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
anyone who is a member of a terrorist organization,or aids
comforts, sides with, supplies,or any country that harbors them.
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
Thinking makes the rightwingers's heads hurt.
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| User: "ronin" |
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| Title: Re: "Liberal" Media's Repugnant Mentality & Attitudes |
30 May 2004 03:26:09 AM |
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"pondo sinatra" <somebody@somewhere.net> wrote in message
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"ronin" <ronin@ree.tv> wrote in message
news:9h7uc.617588$oR5.168437@pd7tw3no...
"Bradley K. Sherman" <bks@panix.com> wrote in message
news:c9am0g$ih8$1@panix1.panix.com...
In article <8f49fa86.0405291035.404f0cfd@posting.google.com>,
nan <nanleecro@hotmail.com> wrote:
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www.reason.com
May 25, 2004
Right Or Wrong?
Obscene gloating over US failures in Iraq
Cathy Young
Are some Americans, including journalists, rooting for the enemy
while
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
anyone who is a member of a terrorist organization,or aids
comforts,
Like US support of the Mujahadeen like OBL in the 80s?
Or like their support of Saudi Arabia?
sides with, supplies,or any country that harbors them.
The US harbours them in Fort Benning.
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
Thinking makes the rightwingers's heads hurt.
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| User: "pondo sinatra" |
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| Title: Re: "Liberal" Media's Repugnant Mentality & Attitudes |
30 May 2004 12:02:01 PM |
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"ronin" <ronin@ree.tv> wrote in message
news:BUguc.621760$oR5.155898@pd7tw3no...
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
anyone who is a member of a terrorist organization,or aids
comforts,
Like US support of the Mujahadeen like OBL in the 80s?
25 years ago, you think the world never changes?
Or like their support of Saudi Arabia?
if I have five guys that are hostile i'm going to trash the big
bad one first. hopefully the smaller less hostile will get cold feet.
sides with, supplies,or any country that harbors them.
The US harbours them in Fort Benning.
being in jail is harbored. well this thread is about you isn't it.good day
sir.
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
Thinking makes the rightwingers's heads hurt.
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| User: "ronin" |
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| Title: Re: "Liberal" Media's Repugnant Mentality & Attitudes |
30 May 2004 06:26:19 PM |
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"pondo sinatra" <somebody@somewhere.net> wrote in message
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"ronin" <ronin@ree.tv> wrote in message
news:BUguc.621760$oR5.155898@pd7tw3no...
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
anyone who is a member of a terrorist organization,or aids
comforts,
Like US support of the Mujahadeen like OBL in the 80s?
25 years ago, you think the world never changes?
Are you with them or against them?
Or like their support of Saudi Arabia?
if I have five guys that are hostile i'm going to trash the big
bad one first. hopefully the smaller less hostile will get cold feet.
????
Saudi Arabia is the big guy. Your point?
Which country was bigger or badder, Afghanistan or Iraq?
And how come you can't win either?
sides with, supplies,or any country that harbors them.
The US harbours them in Fort Benning.
being in jail is harbored.
????
well this thread is about you isn't it.good day
sir.
Spooked you, eh?
--bks
Bet you don't get a response.
Thinking makes the rightwingers's heads hurt.
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| User: "pondo sinatra" |
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| Title: Re: "Liberal" Media's Repugnant Mentality & Attitudes |
30 May 2004 10:49:17 PM |
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"ronin" <ronin@ree.tv> wrote in message
news:BUguc.621760$oR5.155898@pd7tw3no...
Before we get into this question, who is the enemy?
anyone who is a member of a terrorist organization,or aids
comforts,
Like US support of the Mujahadeen like OBL in the 80s?
25 years ago, you think the world never changes?
Are you with them or against them?
are conditions today exactly the same as 25 years ago?
Or like their support of Saudi Arabia?
if I have five guys that are hostile i'm going to trash the big
bad one first. hopefully the smaller less hostile will get cold feet.
????
Saudi Arabia is the big guy. Your point?
afghanistan was disneyland for terrorist
Which country was bigger or badder, Afghanistan or Iraq?
And how come you can't win either?
we can asphault the entire region.we're to concerned about killing civilians
and rightly so.
sides with, supplies,or any country that harbors them.
The US harbours them in Fort Benning.
being in jail is harbored.
????
enlighten me do we have terrorist running loose at fort benning? are they
incarcerated? theres a diffrence you know.
well this thread is about you isn't it.good day
sir.
Spooked you, eh?
I don't spook, ever.
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