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"Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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21 Aug 2007 09:28:14 AM |
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Liberals Abandon Prisoner Reform |
After years of claiming that sexual offending prisoners could be
reformed, liberals are now claiming that sexual preference is set at
birth and unchangable. If it is true that homosexual sexual
preference is a matter of genes and should just be accepted, why would
we believe a child molester (with a sexual preference for kids) could
be reformed...or should we just lock them up for life when caught?
Thus, liberals are claiming, now, that sexual prisoners CANNOT be
reformed.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
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| User: "Joe S." |
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| Title: Re: Liberals Abandon Prisoner Reform |
21 Aug 2007 09:35:15 AM |
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"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187706494.902675.173660@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
After years of claiming that sexual offending prisoners could be
reformed, liberals are now claiming that sexual preference is set at
birth and unchangable. If it is true that homosexual sexual
preference is a matter of genes and should just be accepted, why would
we believe a child molester (with a sexual preference for kids) could
be reformed...or should we just lock them up for life when caught?
Thus, liberals are claiming, now, that sexual prisoners CANNOT be
reformed.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
And exactly where did you come up with this nonsense??
Perhaps you'd be so kind as to share your sources.
Or is this another revelation from god??
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Liberals Abandon Prisoner Reform |
21 Aug 2007 09:41:03 AM |
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On Aug 21, 9:35 am, "Joe S." <no...@nowhere.net> wrote:
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kand...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1187706494.902675.173660@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
After years of claiming that sexual offending prisoners could be
reformed, liberals are now claiming that sexual preference is set at
birth and unchangable. If it is true that homosexual sexual
preference is a matter of genes and should just be accepted, why would
we believe a child molester (with a sexual preference for kids) could
be reformed...or should we just lock them up for life when caught?
Thus, liberals are claiming, now, that sexual prisoners CANNOT be
reformed.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
And exactly where did you come up with this nonsense??
Perhaps you'd be so kind as to share your sources.
Or is this another revelation from god??
Can you answer the question or not? If sexual preference is
unchanging from birth, how can a sexual molester be reformed?
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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| Title: Re: Liberals Abandon Prisoner Reform |
21 Aug 2007 11:13:25 AM |
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Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 21, 9:35 am, "Joe S." <no...@nowhere.net> wrote:
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kand...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1187706494.902675.173660@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
After years of claiming that sexual offending prisoners could be
reformed, liberals are now claiming that sexual preference is set at
birth and unchangable. If it is true that homosexual sexual
preference is a matter of genes and should just be accepted, why would
we believe a child molester (with a sexual preference for kids) could
be reformed...or should we just lock them up for life when caught?
Thus, liberals are claiming, now, that sexual prisoners CANNOT be
reformed.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
And exactly where did you come up with this nonsense??
Perhaps you'd be so kind as to share your sources.
Or is this another revelation from god??
Can you answer the question or not? If sexual preference is
unchanging from birth, how can a sexual molester be reformed?
You made a statement about "liberals" and their beliefs. That
question and its answer would at most have to do with the respondent,
who might or might not be a "liberal".
The answer to your question is that sexual preference and sexual
activity are not the same thing.
lojbab
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| User: "Jd" |
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| Title: Re: Liberals Abandon Prisoner Reform |
22 Aug 2007 06:22:09 PM |
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Bob LeChevalier wrote:
Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 21, 9:35 am, "Joe S." <no...@nowhere.net> wrote:
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kand...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1187706494.902675.173660@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
After years of claiming that sexual offending prisoners could be
reformed, liberals are now claiming that sexual preference is set at
birth and unchangable. If it is true that homosexual sexual
preference is a matter of genes and should just be accepted, why would
we believe a child molester (with a sexual preference for kids) could
be reformed...or should we just lock them up for life when caught?
Thus, liberals are claiming, now, that sexual prisoners CANNOT be
reformed.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
And exactly where did you come up with this nonsense??
Perhaps you'd be so kind as to share your sources.
Or is this another revelation from god??
Can you answer the question or not? If sexual preference is
unchanging from birth, how can a sexual molester be reformed?
You made a statement about "liberals" and their beliefs. That
question and its answer would at most have to do with the respondent,
who might or might not be a "liberal".
The answer to your question is that sexual preference and sexual
activity are not the same thing.
lojbab
Face it Bob, if you guys get your way our country will end being the new sodom and gomorrah.
Genesis 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the
house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
See that? The homosexual pedophile men had their boy victims right there with them....
Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, "Where are the men which came in to
thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them".
To you, defending freedom is the promotion of sin. But in reality "sin" makes you a slave.
John 8:34 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin." - Jesus
Jd
"All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" - Jesus
(Matthew 28:18-19)
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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| Title: Re: Liberals Abandon Prisoner Reform |
22 Aug 2007 09:49:15 PM |
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Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote:
Bob LeChevalier wrote:
Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 21, 9:35 am, "Joe S." <no...@nowhere.net> wrote:
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kand...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1187706494.902675.173660@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
After years of claiming that sexual offending prisoners could be
reformed, liberals are now claiming that sexual preference is set at
birth and unchangable. If it is true that homosexual sexual
preference is a matter of genes and should just be accepted, why would
we believe a child molester (with a sexual preference for kids) could
be reformed...or should we just lock them up for life when caught?
Thus, liberals are claiming, now, that sexual prisoners CANNOT be
reformed.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
And exactly where did you come up with this nonsense??
Perhaps you'd be so kind as to share your sources.
Or is this another revelation from god??
Can you answer the question or not? If sexual preference is
unchanging from birth, how can a sexual molester be reformed?
You made a statement about "liberals" and their beliefs. That
question and its answer would at most have to do with the respondent,
who might or might not be a "liberal".
The answer to your question is that sexual preference and sexual
activity are not the same thing.
Face it Bob, if you guys get your way our country will end being the new sodom and gomorrah.
Nope.
Genesis 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the
house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
See that? The homosexual pedophile men had their boy victims right there with them...
That is YOUR misinterpretation of that verse. There is no mention of
the words "homosexual" or "pedophile" in the verse.
Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, "Where are the men which came in to
thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them".
Which you choose to interpret in the carnal sense of "know".
To you, defending freedom is the promotion of sin.
No. To me, defending freedom is utterly orthogonal to the question of
sin. Those who are free can choose to sin or they can choose not to
sin.
But in reality "sin" makes you a slave.
You should know.
lojbab
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| User: "kT" |
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| Title: Christian American Fascist Spam - Ignore |
21 Aug 2007 09:47:58 AM |
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Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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| Title: Re: Christian American Fascist Spam - Ignore |
21 Aug 2007 09:52:21 AM |
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On Aug 21, 9:47 am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
Are you ready to ban all signatures online or just "christian american
fascist" ones?
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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| Title: Re: Christian American Fascist Spam - Ignore |
21 Aug 2007 11:17:21 AM |
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Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Aug 21, 9:47 am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
Are you ready to ban all signatures online or just "christian american
fascist" ones?
So you are admitting that you are a "fascist"?
I don't see anyone trying to ban a signature. I see someone who
identified you as a fascist and as a spammer (and as an American and
as a "Christian" - we can't help that he got the last one wrong), and
telling people to ignore you.
lojbab
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| User: "kT" |
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| Title: Re: Christian American Fascist Spam - Ignore |
21 Aug 2007 09:53:29 AM |
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Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
On Aug 21, 9:47 am, kT <cos...@lifeform.org> wrote:
Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Are you ready to ban all signatures online or just "christian american
fascist" ones?
Don't worry, I don't ban anyone on the usenet, not even ignorant
scientifically illiterate Christian American fascists with delusions of
relevance.
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
--
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Liberals Abandon Prisoner Reform |
21 Aug 2007 12:47:11 PM |
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In article <1187706494.902675.173660@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:
After years of claiming that sexual offending prisoners could be
reformed, liberals
Citations for this claim:
-- cary
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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| Title: Re: Liberals Abandon Prisoner Reform |
21 Aug 2007 11:08:15 AM |
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Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
After years of claiming that sexual offending prisoners could be reformed,
Who made this claim?
liberals are now claiming
Which liberals?
that sexual preference is set at birth and unchangable.
Sexual preference has nothing to do with sexual offenders.
If it is true that homosexual sexual
preference is a matter of genes and should just be accepted, why would
we believe a child molester (with a sexual preference for kids) could
be reformed.
What do you mean by "reformed"?
Our laws have always presumed that sexual offenders are punished for
their specific offenses, and then released. One is not punished for
having a "preference" for kids, but for acting on that preference.
...or should we just lock them up for life when caught?
Lock WHO up?
I suggest that we have YOU locked up for insanity.
Thus, liberals are claiming, now, that sexual prisoners CANNOT be
reformed.
You need to provide a cite for such a "liberal" making such a claim,
so we can properly address it.
lojbab
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| User: "Jd" |
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| Title: Re: Liberals Abandon Prisoner Reform |
22 Aug 2007 06:22:10 PM |
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Bob LeChevalier wrote:
Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
After years of claiming that sexual offending prisoners could be reformed,
Who made this claim?
liberals are now claiming
Which liberals?
that sexual preference is set at birth and unchangable.
Sexual preference has nothing to do with sexual offenders.
If it is true that homosexual sexual
preference is a matter of genes and should just be accepted, why would
we believe a child molester (with a sexual preference for kids) could
be reformed.
What do you mean by "reformed"?
Our laws have always presumed that sexual offenders are punished for
their specific offenses, and then released. One is not punished for
having a "preference" for kids, but for acting on that preference.
There you go again. Twisting words so as to promote sin. Having a "preference" for kids is sin.
Next thing you know you'll be a freedom fighter for the animal sex crowd. You're leading people to
hell instead of securing "freedom" for them Bob.
Men need God to change their hearts... but they gotta confess their sins first. And all men are
equal in that respect and can equally be forgiven.
Mark 7:21-23 "For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries,
fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye,
blasphemy, pride, foolishness: all these evil things come from within, and defile the man." - Jesus
Jd
"Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away." - Jesus (Luke 21:33)
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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| Title: Re: Liberals Abandon Prisoner Reform |
22 Aug 2007 09:54:44 PM |
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Jd <ZionsFire@att.net> wrote:
Bob LeChevalier wrote:
If it is true that homosexual sexual
preference is a matter of genes and should just be accepted, why would
we believe a child molester (with a sexual preference for kids) could
be reformed.
What do you mean by "reformed"?
Our laws have always presumed that sexual offenders are punished for
their specific offenses, and then released. One is not punished for
having a "preference" for kids, but for acting on that preference.
There you go again. Twisting words so as to promote sin.
Nope.
Having a "preference" for kids is sin.
Having lust for anyone but your wife is sin. It doesn't matter what
age or gender. But in biblical days women got married while still
below what we now consider to be the age of consent.
Next thing you know you'll be a freedom fighter for the animal sex crowd.
God gave us free will.
You're leading people to hell instead of securing "freedom" for them Bob.
I'm leading people to freedom, where they have the option to choose
either heaven or hell.
Men need God to change their hearts... but they gotta confess their sins first.
Physician, heal thyself.
And all men are equal in that respect
Yep, Homosexuals are no more sinners than you are. So get that beam
out of your eye before you worry about their splinters.
lojbab
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| User: "kT" |
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21 Aug 2007 09:49:29 AM |
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Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Kenneth Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
--
Get A Free Orbiter Space Flight Simulator :
http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html
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