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User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
Date: 16 Jul 2007 10:10:48 PM
Object: Official Government Promotion of Religion (US Presidents)
A few quotes from a few well-known Presidents that you won't read in
public schools... (quotes from my book, A Nation Under God)
Washington (1st President)
"...it would be peculiarly improper to omit in this first official act
my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the
universe, who presides in the councils of nations, and whose
providential aids can supply every human defect." - Inaugural Address
Adams (2nd President)
"...with humble reverence, I feel it to be my duty to add, if a
veneration for the religion of a people who profess and call
themselves Christian, and a fixed resolution to consider a decent
respect for Christianity among the best recommendations for the public
service..." - Inaugural Address
Jefferson (3rd President)
"...and may that Infinite Power which rules the destinies of the
universe lead our councils to what is best, and give them a favorable
issue for your peace and prosperity." - Inaugural Address
Madison (4th President)
"...the guardianship and guidance of that Almighty Being whose power
regulates the destiny of nations...to whom we are bound to address our
devout gratitude for the past, as well as our fervent supplications
and best hopes for the future." - Inaugural Address
Monroe (5th President)
"...with a firm reliance on the protection of Almighty God..." -
Inaugural Address
Lincoln (16th President)
"...as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said
'the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether." -
Inaugural Addrss
Theodore Roosevelt (26th President)
"No people on earth have more cause to be thankful than ours, and this
is said reverently, in no spite of boastfulness in our own strength,
but with gratitude to the Giver of Good who has blessed us..." -
Inaugural Address
Wilson (28th President)
"we shall, in God's Providence, let us hope..." - Inaugural Address
F D Roosevelt (32nd President)
"And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in
prayer...and, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee...Thy will
be done, Almighty God." - Nationally Broadcast D-Day prayer.
Eisenhower (34th President)
"At such a time in history, we who are free must proclaim anew our
faith...those gifts of the Creator that are man's inalienable rights,
and that make all men equal in His sight." - Inaugural Address
Kennedy (35th President)
"...the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of
the state, but from the hand of God." - Inaugural Address
Carter (39th President)
"Here before me is the Bible used in the inauguration of our first
President, in 1789, and I have just taken the oath of office on the
Bible my mother gave me a few years ago, opened to a timeless
admonition from the ancient prophet Micah:
'He hath showed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord
require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk
humbly with thy God.' (Micah 6:8)"
Ken Clifton
www.lulu.com/kenclifton
.

User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder"

Title: Re: Official Government Promotion of Religion (US Presidents) 17 Jul 2007 09:01:03 AM
On Jul 16, 10:10 pm, Wide Eyed in Wonder <kand...@hotmail.com> wrote:

A few quotes from a few well-known Presidents that you won't read in
public schools... (quotes from my book, A Nation Under God)

Washington (1st President)
"...it would be peculiarly improper to omit in this first official act
my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the
universe, who presides in the councils of nations, and whose
providential aids can supply every human defect." - Inaugural Address

Adams (2nd President)
"...with humble reverence, I feel it to be my duty to add, if a
veneration for the religion of a people who profess and call
themselves Christian, and a fixed resolution to consider a decent
respect for Christianity among the best recommendations for the public
service..." - Inaugural Address

Jefferson (3rd President)
"...and may that Infinite Power which rules the destinies of the
universe lead our councils to what is best, and give them a favorable
issue for your peace and prosperity." - Inaugural Address

Madison (4th President)
"...the guardianship and guidance of that Almighty Being whose power
regulates the destiny of nations...to whom we are bound to address our
devout gratitude for the past, as well as our fervent supplications
and best hopes for the future." - Inaugural Address

Monroe (5th President)
"...with a firm reliance on the protection of Almighty God..." -
Inaugural Address

Lincoln (16th President)
"...as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said
'the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether." -
Inaugural Addrss

Theodore Roosevelt (26th President)
"No people on earth have more cause to be thankful than ours, and this
is said reverently, in no spite of boastfulness in our own strength,
but with gratitude to the Giver of Good who has blessed us..." -
Inaugural Address

Wilson (28th President)
"we shall, in God's Providence, let us hope..." - Inaugural Address

F D Roosevelt (32nd President)
"And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in
prayer...and, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee...Thy will
be done, Almighty God." - Nationally Broadcast D-Day prayer.

Eisenhower (34th President)
"At such a time in history, we who are free must proclaim anew our
faith...those gifts of the Creator that are man's inalienable rights,
and that make all men equal in His sight." - Inaugural Address

Kennedy (35th President)
"...the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of
the state, but from the hand of God." - Inaugural Address

Carter (39th President)
"Here before me is the Bible used in the inauguration of our first
President, in 1789, and I have just taken the oath of office on the
Bible my mother gave me a few years ago, opened to a timeless
admonition from the ancient prophet Micah:
'He hath showed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord
require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk
humbly with thy God.' (Micah 6:8)"

Ken Cliftonwww.lulu.com/kenclifton

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Ken Clifton
-author of A Nation Under God
www.lulu.com/kenclifton
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User: "Bob LeChevalier"

Title: Re: Official Government Promotion of Religion (US Presidents) 17 Jul 2007 11:47:13 AM
Wide Eyed in Wonder <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 16, 10:10 pm, Wide Eyed in Wonder <kand...@hotmail.com> wrote:

A few

.... unimportant ...

quotes from a few well-known Presidents that you won't read in
public schools.

Kids in public schools, private schools, and whatever don't tend to
read presidential quotes of any sort. They simply aren't that
important. A couple are noteworthy enough to gain attention, in
particular the words of Lincoln, because of the circumstances in the
nation WHEN he said them.

bump

grind
lojbab
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User: "ZerkonX"

Title: Re: Official Government Promotion of Religion (US Presidents) 21 Jul 2007 10:08:35 AM
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:10:48 -0700, Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:

God

Jesus Christ commonly spoke Aramaic. The world for God in Aramaic is
Allah.
.

User: "Peter Franks"

Title: Re: Official Government Promotion of Religion (US Presidents) 17 Jul 2007 09:14:29 AM
Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:

A few quotes from a few well-known Presidents that you won't read in
public schools... (quotes from my book, A Nation Under God)

Inaugural addresses aren't "official government promotion of religion".
So, excluding those quotes, we are left with:

F D Roosevelt (32nd President)
"And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in
prayer...and, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee...Thy will
be done, Almighty God." - Nationally Broadcast D-Day prayer.

And

Carter (39th President)
"Here before me is the Bible used in the inauguration of our first
President, in 1789, and I have just taken the oath of office on the
Bible my mother gave me a few years ago, opened to a timeless
admonition from the ancient prophet Micah:
'He hath showed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord
require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk
humbly with thy God.' (Micah 6:8)"

No idea what this comes from, and without a reference, will be ignored.
That leaves a single quote for analysis (FDR).
Referring to the amendment:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
1) FDR was /president/, not congress, so this doesn't apply.
2) The statement does not establish a religion.
3) FDR has the right of free exercise, and apparently was exercising
that right.
So, in conclusion, your assertion regarding "Official Government
Promotion of Religion" is found lacking.
.
User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder"

Title: Re: Official Government Promotion of Religion (US Presidents) 19 Jul 2007 08:57:44 AM
On Jul 17, 9:14 am, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:

Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:

A few quotes from a few well-known Presidents that you won't read in
public schools... (quotes from my book, A Nation Under God)


Inaugural addresses aren't "official government promotion of religion".

So, excluding those quotes, we are left with:

F D Roosevelt (32nd President)
"And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in
prayer...and, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee...Thy will
be done, Almighty God." - Nationally Broadcast D-Day prayer.


And

Carter (39th President)
"Here before me is the Bible used in the inauguration of our first
President, in 1789, and I have just taken the oath of office on the
Bible my mother gave me a few years ago, opened to a timeless
admonition from the ancient prophet Micah:
'He hath showed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord
require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk
humbly with thy God.' (Micah 6:8)"


No idea what this comes from, and without a reference, will be ignored.

That leaves a single quote for analysis (FDR).

Referring to the amendment:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

1) FDR was /president/, not congress, so this doesn't apply.

2) The statement does not establish a religion.

3) FDR has the right of free exercise, and apparently was exercising
that right.

So, in conclusion, your assertion regarding "Official Government
Promotion of Religion" is found lacking.

Teachers are not congress either, right?
Ken Clifton
christiansuperhero.com
.
User: "Peter Franks"

Title: Re: Official Government Promotion of Religion (US Presidents) 23 Jul 2007 12:18:36 PM
Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:

On Jul 17, 9:14 am, Peter Franks <n...@none.com> wrote:

Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:


A few quotes from a few well-known Presidents that you won't read in
public schools... (quotes from my book, A Nation Under God)


Inaugural addresses aren't "official government promotion of religion".

So, excluding those quotes, we are left with:


F D Roosevelt (32nd President)
"And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in
prayer...and, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee...Thy will
be done, Almighty God." - Nationally Broadcast D-Day prayer.


And


Carter (39th President)
"Here before me is the Bible used in the inauguration of our first
President, in 1789, and I have just taken the oath of office on the
Bible my mother gave me a few years ago, opened to a timeless
admonition from the ancient prophet Micah:
'He hath showed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord
require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk
humbly with thy God.' (Micah 6:8)"


No idea what this comes from, and without a reference, will be ignored.

That leaves a single quote for analysis (FDR).

Referring to the amendment:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

1) FDR was /president/, not congress, so this doesn't apply.

2) The statement does not establish a religion.

3) FDR has the right of free exercise, and apparently was exercising
that right.

So, in conclusion, your assertion regarding "Official Government
Promotion of Religion" is found lacking.


Teachers are not congress either, right?

Yes, that is correct; excepting the case where a teacher happens to be a
concurrently-serving congressperson.
.




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