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"Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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08 Feb 2006 04:26:53 PM |
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Re: Da Vinci Code Movie will add to Christian Sales |
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1134516499.378759.170780@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "The Fool" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:
Since the fictional Da Vinci Code book came out, almost every Christian
publisher has seen an increase in sales due to their own sales of books
refuting the claims in Brown's book. Now, we have a movie coming out
on the same topic. I expect the same result.
Since the Da Vinci Code book has already had such sales, it would be
doubtful that their would be future sales of the book by the release of
the movie. In fact, the movie company is, instead, counting on those
that read the book to come see the movie, which is only half true.
Many that read the book that I know hated it.
On the other hand, books from "cracking the Da Vinci Code" to other
books showing the falsehoods in the teachings will see a rise. When
people want to know the truth behind the theory, they are going to
consult non-fiction for the truth. There, Christians have the majority
of books. When the movie comes out, bookstores will be pushing all of
these books as related to the movie. Therefore, the church will be
making a LOT of money off of the very ones opposed to it. Funny.
Ken Clifton
christianjedi.com
christiancelebrity.com
somebodysaveme.com
I shall run this theory by my tame book-store
maven, who knows these things, and get back to you.
-- cary
Proof I was right about this....
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/living/13820027.htm
Ken Clifton
http://lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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08 Feb 2006 04:47:01 PM |
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In article <1139437612.970054.255120@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1134516499.378759.170780@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "The Fool" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:
Since the fictional Da Vinci Code book came out, almost every Christian
publisher has seen an increase in sales due to their own sales of books
refuting the claims in Brown's book. Now, we have a movie coming out
on the same topic. I expect the same result.
Since the Da Vinci Code book has already had such sales, it would be
doubtful that their would be future sales of the book by the release of
the movie. In fact, the movie company is, instead, counting on those
that read the book to come see the movie, which is only half true.
Many that read the book that I know hated it.
On the other hand, books from "cracking the Da Vinci Code" to other
books showing the falsehoods in the teachings will see a rise. When
people want to know the truth behind the theory, they are going to
consult non-fiction for the truth. There, Christians have the majority
of books. When the movie comes out, bookstores will be pushing all of
these books as related to the movie. Therefore, the church will be
making a LOT of money off of the very ones opposed to it. Funny.
Ken Clifton
christianjedi.com
christiancelebrity.com
somebodysaveme.com
I shall run this theory by my tame book-store
maven, who knows these things, and get back to you.
-- cary
Proof I was right about this....
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/living/13820027.htm
Your claim, to which I was responding, was that:
When the movie comes out, bookstores will be pushing all of
these books as related to the movie. Therefore, the church will be
making a LOT of money off of the very ones opposed to it.
This article hardly proof of that -- there's no mention of a single
copy of any such book having been sold at all.
You're jumping the gun.
However, I hope McDowell's books does well. I'm always in
favor of books promoting skeptcism, whether the skepticism
be directed towards astrology, homeopathy, UFOlogy, or
just plain sloppy sensational historical distortions.
-- cary
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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08 Feb 2006 05:06:39 PM |
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1139437612.970054.255120@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1134516499.378759.170780@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "The Fool" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:
Since the fictional Da Vinci Code book came out, almost every Christian
publisher has seen an increase in sales due to their own sales of books
refuting the claims in Brown's book. Now, we have a movie coming out
on the same topic. I expect the same result.
Since the Da Vinci Code book has already had such sales, it would be
doubtful that their would be future sales of the book by the release of
the movie. In fact, the movie company is, instead, counting on those
that read the book to come see the movie, which is only half true.
Many that read the book that I know hated it.
On the other hand, books from "cracking the Da Vinci Code" to other
books showing the falsehoods in the teachings will see a rise. When
people want to know the truth behind the theory, they are going to
consult non-fiction for the truth. There, Christians have the majority
of books. When the movie comes out, bookstores will be pushing all of
these books as related to the movie. Therefore, the church will be
making a LOT of money off of the very ones opposed to it. Funny.
Ken Clifton
christianjedi.com
christiancelebrity.com
somebodysaveme.com
I shall run this theory by my tame book-store
maven, who knows these things, and get back to you.
-- cary
Proof I was right about this....
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/living/13820027.htm
Your claim, to which I was responding, was that:
When the movie comes out, bookstores will be pushing all of
these books as related to the movie. Therefore, the church will be
making a LOT of money off of the very ones opposed to it.
This article hardly proof of that -- there's no mention of a single
copy of any such book having been sold at all.
You're jumping the gun.
However, I hope McDowell's books does well. I'm always in
favor of books promoting skeptcism, whether the skepticism
be directed towards astrology, homeopathy, UFOlogy, or
just plain sloppy sensational historical distortions.
-- cary
Indeed. I'm confidant that when the claims of those that choose a
religion against lying are compared to the claims of those that choose
to oppose the idea of purity and good, I'll be on the right side. May
everyone challenge everything, including the benefits of abortion and
the diversity of the left. The facts will stand for themselves.
Ken Clifton
http://lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Harkness" |
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09 Feb 2006 10:33:44 AM |
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"It's not lying. It's a gift for fiction"
John Harkness
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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08 Feb 2006 05:33:15 PM |
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On 8 Feb 2006 15:06:39 -0800,
Ken Clifton <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
I'm confidant that when the claims of those that choose a
religion against lying are compared to the claims of those that choose
to oppose the idea of purity and good, I'll be on the right side. May
everyone challenge everything, including the benefits of abortion and
the diversity of the left. The facts will stand for themselves.
Fine. Then let's start with a good strong challenge to the hateful
and loathsome agendas against human liberties that are espoused by
the bigoted louts of the RRR Cult.
For openers, here are the FACTS pertaining to abortion. Facts that
they would NEVER have the honesty or integrity to accept AS the
irrefutable facts that they are:
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
ANALYZING ABORTION-ON-REQUEST* in the USA
*(Abortion Rights as they have existed since 1-22-73)
Abortion terminates entities (z/e/fs: zygotes, embryoes &
fetuses, up until the 7th month of gestation) which have ALL
of these characteristics in common with sperm and ova:
-- Human
-- Unique
-- As a stage of development, indispensable to future birth
-- Have NEVER experienced conscious awareness
-- Alive
...which makes it hypocritical when abortion opponents
try to defend z/e/fs but NOT sperm and ova.
And the Bible, which is the primary moral authority for the
majority of Americans:
-- In NO way condemns abortion
-- Doesn't even MENTION abortion
-- By Jesus' day, abortion had been around for 1,000 yrs.
-- Contains NO defenses of s/o/z/e/fs
-- Reserves ALL of its protection for already-BORN people
-- That the Bible regards personhood to begin at BIRTH is
made clear by it's immense emphasis on the importance
of BIRTH order, and BIRTHrights.
-- In certain cases, condemned BABIES to horrible deaths
-- Never indicates that there is anything "special" about
fertilization
-- Thus making z/e/f and sperm & ova of EQUAL worth
Abortion-on-request enables women to:
-- Put their lives back on track immediately
-- Restore their well-being to pre-unplanned pregnancy levels
-- Vast majority of women are happy with this decision
-- Most women have no regrets
-- Restore their full range of future opportunities
-- Avoid physical difficulties of a 9-month pregnancy
-- Especially important for young girls, ~12-16
-- Statistically 6-10 times safer than carrying-to-term
-- Avoid the trauma of adopting-out, and wondering later
-- Avoid possibility of changing mind about adopting-out
-- Reduce likelihood of long-term economic deprivation
-- Avoid bringing child into less-loving home
-- Avoid bringing child into unstable environment
-- Wait until timing is better before having children
-- Who then are MORE likely to be loved
-- Who then are MORE likely to be in stable home
-- And thus are LESS like to have troubled childhoods
-- And therefore more likely NOT to become criminals
-- And thus are MORE likely to become successful
Legal abortion-on-request:
-- Is exponentially safer than illegal abortions
-- Thus saving the lives of hundreds or thousands of women/yr.
-- Has been available throughout the USA since early 1973
-- Between 1973 and 2000, 30 million women have had them
-- Between 1973 and 2000, 40 million abortions have been done
Other related facts include:
-- MOST women who have abortions go on to HAVE kids later,
when the timing is better
-- Those children would NOT have been born if the abortions
had not taken place earlier, because the same sperm and
ova would not have matched up.
-- Those "2nd-round" kids STARTED reaching age 13 in
significant numbers by 1988. By the early 1990s, millions
of those "2nd-round" kids were in their mid-teens by the
early 1990s.
-- Mid-teens is the highest risk age for crime, and this
continues into the early 20s.
-- As pointed out above, wanted and loved children are
LESS prone to criminal behavior.
-- By 1995, millions of "2nd-round kids" were entering the
workforce. Perhaps a million-plus MORE have entered it
every year SINCE. By 2000, the oldest ones had reached
the age where they could be getting quite successful.
-- Since the early 1990s, the rate of violent crime in the USA
has declined dramatically, and by 2000 was at 40-year
lows in many categories.
-- The decade of the 1990s, and the 21st century to date,
in the USA, has been the most economically-dynamic
period of time for any nation in the entire history of the
world.
Although the exact figures may be impossible to derive, the
probability that abortion-on-request has SIGNIFICANTLY benefitted
all of America's society in terms of the crime rate and the economy
is QUITE strong, despite the temporary anomaly caused by the attack
on Sept. 11, 2001. And a strong U.S. economy benefits the entire
world.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
-- Craig Chilton
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| User: "George Peatty" |
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09 Feb 2006 12:48:52 AM |
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On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 23:33:15 GMT, Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
And the Bible, which is the primary moral authority for the
majority of Americans:
-- In NO way condemns abortion
Nonsense. Your exegesis is crap. "Ye do greatly err .. "
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| User: "Craig Chilton" |
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09 Feb 2006 02:54:45 AM |
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On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 01:48:52 -0500,
George Peatty <peattyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote:
Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
And the Bible, which is the primary moral authority for the
majority of Americans:
-- In NO way condemns abortion
Nonsense. Your exegesis is crap. "Ye do greatly err .. "
ROTFL!!!!
You WISH, bigot!
Just like every other person who's ignorant enough to BE
an Anti-Choicer/RRR Cultist, you too just fell by the wayside
in that are totally UNABLE to refute ANY of the many *facts*
contained in that outline. So -- coward that you are -- you
deleted it instead.
Tough!! The facts ARE facts, and the make dog meat of
the hateful bigots of Anti-Choice.
Outline in its entirety RESTORED, below ---
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
ANALYZING ABORTION-ON-REQUEST* in the USA
*(Abortion Rights as they have existed since 1-22-73)
Abortion terminates entities (z/e/fs: zygotes, embryoes &
fetuses, up until the 7th month of gestation) which have ALL
of these characteristics in common with sperm and ova:
-- Human
-- Unique
-- As a stage of development, indispensable to future birth
-- Have NEVER experienced conscious awareness
-- Alive
...which makes it hypocritical when abortion opponents
try to defend z/e/fs but NOT sperm and ova.
And the Bible, which is the primary moral authority for the
majority of Americans:
-- In NO way condemns abortion
-- Doesn't even MENTION abortion
-- By Jesus' day, abortion had been around for 1,000 yrs.
-- Contains NO defenses of s/o/z/e/fs
-- Reserves ALL of its protection for already-BORN people
-- That the Bible regards personhood to begin at BIRTH is
made clear by it's immense emphasis on the importance
of BIRTH order, and BIRTHrights.
-- In certain cases, condemned BABIES to horrible deaths
-- Never indicates that there is anything "special" about
fertilization
-- Thus making z/e/f and sperm & ova of EQUAL worth
Abortion-on-request enables women to:
-- Put their lives back on track immediately
-- Restore their well-being to pre-unplanned pregnancy levels
-- Vast majority of women are happy with this decision
-- Most women have no regrets
-- Restore their full range of future opportunities
-- Avoid physical difficulties of a 9-month pregnancy
-- Especially important for young girls, ~12-16
-- Statistically 6-10 times safer than carrying-to-term
-- Avoid the trauma of adopting-out, and wondering later
-- Avoid possibility of changing mind about adopting-out
-- Reduce likelihood of long-term economic deprivation
-- Avoid bringing child into less-loving home
-- Avoid bringing child into unstable environment
-- Wait until timing is better before having children
-- Who then are MORE likely to be loved
-- Who then are MORE likely to be in stable home
-- And thus are LESS like to have troubled childhoods
-- And therefore more likely NOT to become criminals
-- And thus are MORE likely to become successful
Legal abortion-on-request:
-- Is exponentially safer than illegal abortions
-- Thus saving the lives of hundreds or thousands of women/yr.
-- Has been available throughout the USA since early 1973
-- Between 1973 and 2000, 30 million women have had them
-- Between 1973 and 2000, 40 million abortions have been done
Other related facts include:
-- MOST women who have abortions go on to HAVE kids later,
when the timing is better
-- Those children would NOT have been born if the abortions
had not taken place earlier, because the same sperm and
ova would not have matched up.
-- Those "2nd-round" kids STARTED reaching age 13 in
significant numbers by 1988. By the early 1990s, millions
of those "2nd-round" kids were in their mid-teens by the
early 1990s.
-- Mid-teens is the highest risk age for crime, and this
continues into the early 20s.
-- As pointed out above, wanted and loved children are
LESS prone to criminal behavior.
-- By 1995, millions of "2nd-round kids" were entering the
workforce. Perhaps a million-plus MORE have entered it
every year SINCE. By 2000, the oldest ones had reached
the age where they could be getting quite successful.
-- Since the early 1990s, the rate of violent crime in the USA
has declined dramatically, and by 2000 was at 40-year
lows in many categories.
-- The decade of the 1990s, and the 21st century to date,
in the USA, has been the most economically-dynamic
period of time for any nation in the entire history of the
world.
Although the exact figures may be impossible to derive, the
probability that abortion-on-request has SIGNIFICANTLY benefitted
all of America's society in terms of the crime rate and the economy
is QUITE strong, despite the temporary anomaly caused by the attack
on Sept. 11, 2001. And a strong U.S. economy benefits the entire
world.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
-- Craig Chilton
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08 Feb 2006 05:59:16 PM |
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Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Indeed. I'm confidant that when the claims of those that choose a
religion against lying are compared to the claims of those that choose
to oppose the idea of purity and good, I'll be on the right side. May
everyone challenge everything, including the benefits of abortion and
the diversity of the left. The facts will stand for themselves.
You've inflated your mission. You ARE a liar. You assume people from
the left don't have deep religious convictions, but you're a stupid
fundamentalist who can't tell the difference between convictions and
theology.
--
Alric Knebel
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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09 Feb 2006 07:54:07 AM |
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Alric Knebel wrote:
Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Indeed. I'm confidant that when the claims of those that choose a
religion against lying are compared to the claims of those that choose
to oppose the idea of purity and good, I'll be on the right side. May
everyone challenge everything, including the benefits of abortion and
the diversity of the left. The facts will stand for themselves.
You've inflated your mission. You ARE a liar. You assume people from
the left don't have deep religious convictions, but you're a stupid
fundamentalist who can't tell the difference between convictions and
theology.
--
Alric Knebel
A - Yes, I'm a fundamentalist that sticks to God's fundamentals,
instead of forcing my views on God.
B - I never said the left wasn't religious. I said they are not as
diverse and tolerant as they claim, which you prove by attacking any
religious view you do not share.
Ken Clifton
http://lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Alric Knebel" |
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09 Feb 2006 08:50:04 AM |
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Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Alric Knebel wrote:
Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Indeed. I'm confidant that when the claims of those that choose a
religion against lying are compared to the claims of those that choose
to oppose the idea of purity and good, I'll be on the right side. May
everyone challenge everything, including the benefits of abortion and
the diversity of the left. The facts will stand for themselves.
You've inflated your mission. You ARE a liar. You assume people from
the left don't have deep religious convictions, but you're a stupid
fundamentalist who can't tell the difference between convictions and
theology.
--
Alric Knebel
A - Yes, I'm a fundamentalist that sticks to God's fundamentals,
instead of forcing my views on God.
B - I never said the left wasn't religious. I said they are not as
diverse and tolerant as they claim, which you prove by attacking any
religious view you do not share.
False again, and a lie. We are tolerant, but we're not tolerant of
intolerance. I attack YOUR religious view because it's got an exclusive
-- and primitive -- theology, and it's by its very essence intolerant.
You think you're doing God's will, but you're just entrenched in theology.
As for as your view of the left, you've stated explicitly in quite a few
of your posts your political affiliation, and it's as exclusive and as
erroneous as your theology. You have the same simple-simon take on the
left-right dichotomy as foisted into the airwaves by these right-wing
lying pie holes. Beneath it all is a very unspiritual snideness that
you can't or refuse to see.
--
Alric
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Alric Knebel
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| User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder" |
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09 Feb 2006 09:02:57 AM |
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Alric Knebel wrote:
Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Alric Knebel wrote:
Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Indeed. I'm confidant that when the claims of those that choose a
religion against lying are compared to the claims of those that choose
to oppose the idea of purity and good, I'll be on the right side. May
everyone challenge everything, including the benefits of abortion and
the diversity of the left. The facts will stand for themselves.
You've inflated your mission. You ARE a liar. You assume people from
the left don't have deep religious convictions, but you're a stupid
fundamentalist who can't tell the difference between convictions and
theology.
--
Alric Knebel
A - Yes, I'm a fundamentalist that sticks to God's fundamentals,
instead of forcing my views on God.
B - I never said the left wasn't religious. I said they are not as
diverse and tolerant as they claim, which you prove by attacking any
religious view you do not share.
False again, and a lie. We are tolerant, but we're not tolerant of
intolerance. I attack YOUR religious view because it's got an exclusive
-- and primitive -- theology, and it's by its very essence intolerant.
You think you're doing God's will, but you're just entrenched in theology.
So, if we are to be intolerant of intolerance, I can be intolerant of
your intolerance of me? Also, by the way, prejudice is another form of
intolerance, even if its prejudice against the relilgious.
Ken Clifton
http://lulu.com/writingken
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| User: "Alric Knebel" |
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09 Feb 2006 12:36:09 PM |
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Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Alric Knebel wrote:
Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Alric Knebel wrote:
Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Indeed. I'm confidant that when the claims of those that choose a
religion against lying are compared to the claims of those that choose
to oppose the idea of purity and good, I'll be on the right side. May
everyone challenge everything, including the benefits of abortion and
the diversity of the left. The facts will stand for themselves.
You've inflated your mission. You ARE a liar. You assume people from
the left don't have deep religious convictions, but you're a stupid
fundamentalist who can't tell the difference between convictions and
theology.
--
Alric Knebel
A - Yes, I'm a fundamentalist that sticks to God's fundamentals,
instead of forcing my views on God.
B - I never said the left wasn't religious. I said they are not as
diverse and tolerant as they claim, which you prove by attacking any
religious view you do not share.
False again, and a lie. We are tolerant, but we're not tolerant of
intolerance. I attack YOUR religious view because it's got an exclusive
-- and primitive -- theology, and it's by its very essence intolerant.
You think you're doing God's will, but you're just entrenched in theology.
So, if we are to be intolerant of intolerance, I can be intolerant of
your intolerance of me? Also, by the way, prejudice is another form of
intolerance, even if its prejudice against the relilgious.
There you go. Another example of your dishonesty, thinking that this
trick of logic works. This is why you can't see straight: You're
stupid. You think that other people have to swallow your simplistic
trickery, but you've done yourself considerable harm.
--
Alric Knebel
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08 Feb 2006 05:56:13 PM |
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Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote:
Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <1134516499.378759.170780@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "The Fool" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:
Since the fictional Da Vinci Code book came out, almost every Christian
publisher has seen an increase in sales due to their own sales of books
refuting the claims in Brown's book. Now, we have a movie coming out
on the same topic. I expect the same result.
Since the Da Vinci Code book has already had such sales, it would be
doubtful that their would be future sales of the book by the release of
the movie. In fact, the movie company is, instead, counting on those
that read the book to come see the movie, which is only half true.
Many that read the book that I know hated it.
On the other hand, books from "cracking the Da Vinci Code" to other
books showing the falsehoods in the teachings will see a rise. When
people want to know the truth behind the theory, they are going to
consult non-fiction for the truth. There, Christians have the majority
of books. When the movie comes out, bookstores will be pushing all of
these books as related to the movie. Therefore, the church will be
making a LOT of money off of the very ones opposed to it. Funny.
Ken Clifton
christianjedi.com
christiancelebrity.com
somebodysaveme.com
I shall run this theory by my tame book-store
maven, who knows these things, and get back to you.
-- cary
Proof I was right about this....
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/living/13820027.htm
That doesn't prove anything other than you read sites that support your
biases. Most people not only enjoyed "The Da Vinci Code," but gave
enthusiastic raves to it, convincing others to read it, sustaining a
phenomenally long run as a HARDCOVER bestseller. That's not happening
because people are hating it. In fact, the book is still selling so
well in hardcover, the publisher hasn't seen any need to print a
paperback edition; and a second, more-expensive edition was published,
with illustrations, and it, too, went to number one.
Now, it's possible that sales on books about Jesus increased, as "The Da
Vinci Code" created interest in him in a new way, and that's a good
thing. You fundamentalist Christians might have sought out arguments to
disprove the ideas in the book, because the ideas are threatening to
their theology. But most people who read the book were already
comfortable thinking for themselves and didn't need the solace of a
counterargument.
Here's a chock in your wheel. You're wrong if you think that the movie
isn't going to generate more sales of the book. What'll happen is, the
publisher will put out a paperback edition to coincide with the film's
release, and it'll be at checkout counters all over America, with a
picture on the cover from the movie for the tie-in, and sales will again
shoot up phenomenally. And, no, that won't lead to a spike in those
anti-code books, because the people interesting in debunking it --
people like you -- have already bought those books, so the response from
your side has already peaked.
I've seen you present some very dishonest articles, meaningless tripe
that shows what you're really all about. You're resentful that your
ideas aren't accepted in the marketplace, and that makes you defensive.
You're dishonest. Be reborn, so you can come to God in a real way,
instead of touching only this theology about him. You'll feel better,
and will be able to look at it all as an intellectual and spiritual
adventure.
--
Alric Knebel
But this resentment people like you have toward that book
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