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Sociology > Education |
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"*Mark T* thinkaboutwh@youaredoing8265678658748975432256965763" |
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30 Dec 2005 04:04:32 PM |
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Re: Blessed Chirsitmas (sic) to all |
"Kanga Mom" <kangamaroodoesntreadmailhere@yahoo.com> wrote:
4. Pop culture isn't very timeless
.... like Elvis or the Beatles ... who helped change our culture and music.
I told her you're from Oz, and she says that she guesses things must
be _really_ different in Australia.
Yes, we aren't a bunch of gun loving imbeciles like you. We have manadatory
minimum educational standards for ALL children ... including homeschools.
The vast majority of us never call our kids by Winnie the Pooh names.
What is going to happen when your kids grow up and you're STILL calling them
by cute little Winnie The Pooh names???? It'll probably be time for the kids
to shift Mom off the Whispering Gums Retirement Village.
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In our times, various ideologically dedicated groups increasingly use
censorship, coercion, or propaganda to limit access to ideas, literature,
and the arts that they consider threatening. p.74
Censorship, the twin brother of propaganda, is the tool of despots, of
idealogues, of ayatollahs, of fantics. p.96
Franky Schaeffer "Sham Pearls For Real Swine" ( Wolgemuth & Hyatt;
Brentwood:1990) [Francis Schaeffer's son & Susan Schaeffer Macaulay's
brother]
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| User: "baba" |
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| Title: Re: Blessed Chirsitmas (sic) to all |
30 Dec 2005 07:06:53 PM |
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"*Mark T*" <thinkaboutwh@youaredoing8265678658748975432256965763> wrote in
message news:43b5aef7$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
"Kanga Mom" <kangamaroodoesntreadmailhere@yahoo.com> wrote:
4. Pop culture isn't very timeless
... like Elvis or the Beatles ... who helped change our culture and music.
I told her you're from Oz, and she says that she guesses things must
be _really_ different in Australia.
Yes, we aren't a bunch of gun loving imbeciles like you. We have
manadatory minimum educational standards for ALL children ... including
homeschools. The vast majority of us never call our kids by Winnie the
Pooh names.
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Gun loving imbeciles...? Is that a general put down coming from the folks
running around rioting in the streets and bashing non-whites? Uhmmm
BTW "Teach", what does "manadatory" (sic) mean?
What is going to happen when your kids grow up and you're STILL calling
them by cute little Winnie The Pooh names???? It'll probably be time for
the kids to shift Mom off the Whispering Gums Retirement Village.
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In our times, various ideologically dedicated groups increasingly use
censorship, coercion, or propaganda to limit access to ideas, literature,
and the arts that they consider threatening. p.74
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Do you mean dedicated groups like public school teachers and administrators?
Censorship, the twin brother of propaganda, is the tool of despots, of
idealogues, of ayatollahs, of fantics. p.96
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So Mark, what are "fantics" (sic)? How about "idealogues" (sic)?
baba ;-)
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| User: "*Mark T* thinkaboutwh@youaredoing8273567348759455412612873476480765" |
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| Title: Re: Blessed Chirsitmas (sic) to all |
30 Dec 2005 07:30:28 PM |
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"baba" wrote:
I told her you're from Oz, and she says that she guesses things must
be _really_ different in Australia.
Yes, we aren't a bunch of gun loving imbeciles like you. We have
mandatory minimum educational standards for ALL children ... including
homeschools. The vast majority of us never call our kids by Winnie the
Pooh names.
Gun loving imbeciles...?
Yep!
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In our times, various ideologically dedicated groups increasingly use
censorship, coercion, or propaganda to limit access to ideas, literature,
and the arts that they consider threatening. p.74
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Do you mean dedicated groups like public school teachers and
administrators?
Nah .... Trew Homeskoolas.
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In our times, various ideologically dedicated groups increasingly use
censorship, coercion, or propaganda to limit access to ideas, literature,
and the arts that they consider threatening. p.74
Censorship, the twin brother of propaganda, is the tool of despots, of
ideologues, of ayatollahs, of fanatics. p.96
Franky Schaeffer "Sham Pearls For Real Swine" ( Wolgemuth & Hyatt;
Brentwood:1990) [Francis Schaeffer's son & Susan Schaeffer Macaulay's
brother]
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| User: "baba" |
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| Title: Re: Blessed Chirsitmas (sic) to all |
30 Dec 2005 09:03:46 PM |
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"*Mark T*" <thinkaboutwh@youaredoing8273567348759455412612873476480765>
wrote in message news:43b5df3b@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
"baba" wrote:
I told her you're from Oz, and she says that she guesses things must
be _really_ different in Australia.
Yes, we aren't a bunch of gun loving imbeciles like you. We have
mandatory minimum educational standards for ALL children ... including
homeschools. The vast majority of us never call our kids by Winnie the
Pooh names.
Gun loving imbeciles...?
Yep!
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Let's clear the air here Mark. Are you referring to the "home schoolers" as
"gun loving imbeciles"
or is that a general statement about "Americans"?
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In our times, various ideologically dedicated groups increasingly use
censorship, coercion, or propaganda to limit access to ideas,
literature,
and the arts that they consider threatening. p.74
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Do you mean dedicated groups like public school teachers and
administrators?
Nah .... Trew Homeskoolas.
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Since I'm not a professional educator I won't debate your "expertise" on the
matter Mark. But I will state for the record that in my experience
(as an educatee) the majority of people who are guilty of "censorship,
coercion, or propaganda to limit access to ideas, literature,
and the arts that they consider threatening" are well ensconced primarily in
the ivory halls of academia, then in the hallowed walls of the Church ( in
general), and between the bedsheets of whomever lies down with the
bureaucrats of government.
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In our times, various ideologically dedicated groups increasingly use
censorship, coercion, or propaganda to limit access to ideas, literature,
and the arts that they consider threatening. p.74
Censorship, the twin brother of propaganda, is the tool of despots, of
ideologues, of ayatollahs, of fanatics. p.96
Franky Schaeffer "Sham Pearls For Real Swine" ( Wolgemuth & Hyatt;
Brentwood:1990) [Francis Schaeffer's son & Susan Schaeffer Macaulay's
brother]
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Yeah...that's better. I don't mean to seem anally retentive or come off
like a wanna be netcop...but
it looks *really* bad when you're talking about how you have a million years
experience as an educator (K-12)
and you keep misspelling stuff...It leads to the conclusion that it's not
the kid's fault they're getting dumber.
Now here's a real question for you. Maybe it'll remind you that you are an
educator and you'll quit acting like a schoolboy with a grudge...
My 3½ year old is about ready to start day care/pre-school (because the
powers that be have made kindergarten mandatory when the kids are 4..so it's
time to socialize)
Would you recommend any material (books, software, etc.) to facilitate the
process for him (and me)?
(...like home schooling stuff, LOL)
TIA,
baba
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| User: "*Mark T* thinkaboutwh@youaredoing894658965965966565659566595656" |
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| Title: Re: Blessed Chirsitmas (sic) to all |
30 Dec 2005 11:46:26 PM |
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"baba" wrote:
In our times, various ideologically dedicated groups increasingly use
censorship, coercion, or propaganda to limit access to ideas,
literature, and the arts that they consider threatening. p.74
Do you mean dedicated groups like public school teachers and
administrators?
Nah .... Trew Homeskoolas.
Since I'm not a professional educator I won't debate your "expertise" on
the matter Mark.
You could become a Trew Homeskoolas - those anamateurs apparently think they
know more about education than any professional educator (like me).
My 3½ year old is about ready to start day care/pre-school (because the
powers that be have made kindergarten mandatory when the kids are 4..so
it's time to socialize)
Really? You can't start Kindergarten in NSW, Oz till you are 4 and a half.
Nothing mandatopry before then. I wouldn't worry until he is 5 ... and since
he is a boy that would depend upon his month of birth and maturity level.
Hard to say what to do wiuth the little information you have given.
Would you recommend any material (books, software, etc.) to facilitate the
process for him (and me)?
From my Homeschool Article 13: Better Homeschooling Reseources ......
http://k6.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/
This NSW Board of Studies site provides syllabus and support material for
parents of children in kindergarten through to year 6. For parents keen to
learn more about what their kids are up to in their primary education years,
there's a range of resources to download such as syllabus information
(available for all subjects) and advice documents on how to support your
child's learning
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In our times, various ideologically dedicated groups increasingly use
censorship, coercion, or propaganda to limit access to ideas, literature,
and the arts that they consider threatening. p.74
Censorship, the twin brother of propaganda, is the tool of despots, of
ideologues, of ayatollahs, of fanatics. p.96
Franky Schaeffer "Sham Pearls For Real Swine" ( Wolgemuth & Hyatt;
Brentwood:1990) [Francis Schaeffer's son & Susan Schaeffer Macaulay's
brother]
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| User: "baba" |
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| Title: Re: Blessed Chirsitmas (sic) to all |
31 Dec 2005 12:15:31 AM |
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"*Mark T*" <thinkaboutwh@youaredoing894658965965966565659566595656> wrote in
message news:43b61b39$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
"baba" wrote:
In our times, various ideologically dedicated groups increasingly use
censorship, coercion, or propaganda to limit access to ideas,
literature, and the arts that they consider threatening. p.74
Do you mean dedicated groups like public school teachers and
administrators?
Nah .... Trew Homeskoolas.
Since I'm not a professional educator I won't debate your "expertise" on
the matter Mark.
You could become a Trew Homeskoolas - those anamateurs apparently think
they know more about education than any professional educator (like me).
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No, I'm not interested in becoming a home schooler, just a good parent and
tutor.
My 3½ year old is about ready to start day care/pre-school (because the
powers that be have made kindergarten mandatory when the kids are 4..so
it's time to socialize)
Really? You can't start Kindergarten in NSW, Oz till you are 4 and a half.
Nothing mandatopry before then. I wouldn't worry until he is 5 ... and
since he is a boy that would depend upon his month of birth and maturity
level. Hard to say what to do wiuth the little information you have given.
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What information do you need. He's a 3½ year old boy. Intelligent. Cute.
Here, take a look at him:
http://penny-lane.hotbox.ru/Taddy_pockets.jpg Big boy baba.
His month of birth? What are you on, astrology?
He's a gemini...(like daddy baba) he'll turn 4 in May and school starts in
August or September.
So I gotta put him in day care/pre-school now to acclimatize him b4 then.
He has and can almost operate his own computer with several mickey mouse
type preschool games,
can use tools like screwdrivers and adjustable wrenches...(I haven't taught
him how to change a tire or load the shotgun yet..;-)
He can assemble his Thomas the Train track on his own...and drive his r/c
dump truck over Bob the Builder...
WHATTA YA WANNA KNOW?
Would you recommend any material (books, software, etc.) to facilitate
the process for him (and me)?
From my Homeschool Article 13: Better Homeschooling Reseources ......
http://k6.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/
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There y' go mate. Checked it out and bookmarked it. Thanks.
baba
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| User: "*Mark T* thinkaboutwh@youaredoing89789365963856363475387485" |
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| Title: Re: Blessed Chirsitmas (sic) to all |
31 Dec 2005 12:52:34 AM |
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"baba" wrote:
What information do you need. He's a 3½ year old boy
That's a good start.
Intelligent.
How do you know?
Cute. Here, take a look at him:
http://penny-lane.hotbox.ru/Taddy_pockets.jpg Big boy baba.
Cute little fella!
His month of birth? What are you on, astrology?
Nope. Maturity is important for this age boy if you don't want him to have
problems at school.
He's a gemini...(like daddy baba) he'll turn 4 in May and school starts in
August or September.
A May birth! Not a good idea to start him before the next year unless he is
advanced for his age.
So I gotta put him in day care/pre-school now to acclimatize him b4 then.
Who says? If you can keep him at home till the next year all the better.
Would you recommend any material (books, software, etc.) to facilitate
the process for him (and me)?
From my Homeschool Article 13: Better Homeschooling Reseources ......
http://k6.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/
There y' go mate. Checked it out and bookmarked it. Thanks.
See ... lots of good info.
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| User: "baba" |
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| Title: Re: Blessed Chirsitmas (sic) to all |
31 Dec 2005 01:11:09 AM |
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"*Mark T*" <thinkaboutwh@youaredoing89789365963856363475387485> wrote in
message news:43b62ab9@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
"baba" wrote:
What information do you need. He's a 3½ year old boy
That's a good start.
Intelligent.
How do you know?
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For one, he has very good genes..and a noble spirit. I'm his dad! He has a
very well developed vocabulary
and is sly and manipulative. He has a keen memory and can form intelligent
sentences. He's cool!
Cute. Here, take a look at him:
http://penny-lane.hotbox.ru/Taddy_pockets.jpg Big boy baba.
Cute little fella!
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Thanks!
His month of birth? What are you on, astrology?
Nope. Maturity is important for this age boy if you don't want him to have
problems at school.
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That's why he's gotta go now. So he doesn't get his ***** whooped in
kiddiegarten
He's a gemini...(like daddy baba) he'll turn 4 in May and school starts
in August or September.
A May birth! Not a good idea to start him before the next year unless he
is advanced for his age.
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I'd say he's advanced..at least above average in IQ, but he lacks
socialization skills with children.
I have no problem with homeschooling him until he's five, but it doesn't
work that way.
This Amerika! If he's four he's gotta go to school or people with guns and
clipboards come to your door.
So I gotta put him in day care/pre-school now to acclimatize him b4 then.
Who says? If you can keep him at home till the next year all the better.
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See above. Can we come stay with you? Wanna adopt a couple of babas?
It'd be an awesome jam..man!
Would you recommend any material (books, software, etc.) to facilitate
the process for him (and me)?
From my Homeschool Article 13: Better Homeschooling Reseources ......
http://k6.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/
There y' go mate. Checked it out and bookmarked it. Thanks.
See ... lots of good info.
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Yup. Up to superior "European" standards no doubt. thanx agin
baba
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| User: "*Mark T* thinkaboutwh@youaredoing8735866507596596075696495487384" |
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31 Dec 2005 01:23:11 AM |
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"baba" wrote:
A May birth! Not a good idea to start him before the next year unless he
is advanced for his age.
I'd say he's advanced..at least above average in IQ, but he lacks
socialization skills with children.
.....
This Amerika! If he's four he's gotta go to school or people with guns and
clipboards come to your door.
Good grief! 4!!!! Too young in my opinion unless it is more like our
pre-school / daycare ... more play than anything else.
See above. Can we come stay with you? Wanna adopt a couple of babas?
It'd be an awesome jam..man!
I could handle that! Come to the Land Down Under. Plenty of room at our
Bungalow.
Summer is a bit hot though. 38C for New Year's Eve ... tonight. 42 C for
tomorrow! need plenty of cold beer.
http://k6.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/
There y' go mate. Checked it out and bookmarked it. Thanks.
See ... lots of good info.
Yup. Up to superior "European" standards no doubt. thanx agin
World's Best Practice.
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In our times, various ideologically dedicated groups increasingly use
censorship, coercion, or propaganda to limit access to ideas, literature,
and the arts that they consider threatening. p.74
Censorship, the twin brother of propaganda, is the tool of despots, of
ideologues, of ayatollahs, of fanatics. p.96
Franky Schaeffer "Sham Pearls For Real Swine" ( Wolgemuth & Hyatt;
Brentwood:1990) [Francis Schaeffer's son & Susan Schaeffer Macaulay's
brother]
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| User: "Jon Houts" |
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| Title: Re: Blessed Chirsitmas (sic) to all |
31 Dec 2005 01:45:24 AM |
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baba wrote:
This Amerika! If he's four he's gotta go to school or people with guns and
clipboards come to your door.
Where in America? In my part of America, kids can't start kindergarten
unless they're 5 by labor day, and school isn't compulsory till they're
seven.
but,but...
Jon
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| User: "baba" |
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31 Dec 2005 02:02:17 AM |
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"Jon Houts" <houtsj@tcfreenet.org> wrote in message
news:1136015124.508120.243570@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
baba wrote:
This Amerika! If he's four he's gotta go to school or people with guns
and
clipboards come to your door.
Where in America? In my part of America, kids can't start kindergarten
unless they're 5 by labor day, and school isn't compulsory till they're
seven.
but,but...
Jon
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But-but..
This is Miami-Dade County Florida. Jeb's country.
And it just became a law (not sure if that's state law or municipal..I'll
find out though)
that if your child is 4 by when school starts, he or she has to be there.
Compulsory...( I love that word..it's so compelling..makes me wanna be
compulsive and have compulsions..yes, come pulsate all over..)
There are long lines to get into school and if one doesn't matriculate the
child before capacities are full
the child must be sent to a private school.
butt-butt
baba
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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| Title: Re: Blessed Chirsitmas (sic) to all |
31 Dec 2005 01:23:51 PM |
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"baba" <bbdd@terra.spoof.net> wrote:
"Jon Houts" <houtsj@tcfreenet.org> wrote in message
news:1136015124.508120.243570@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
baba wrote:
This Amerika! If he's four he's gotta go to school or people with guns
and
clipboards come to your door.
Where in America? In my part of America, kids can't start kindergarten
unless they're 5 by labor day, and school isn't compulsory till they're
seven.
but,but...
Jon
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But-but..
This is Miami-Dade County Florida. Jeb's country.
And it just became a law (not sure if that's state law or municipal..I'll
find out though)
that if your child is 4 by when school starts, he or she has to be there.
Compulsory...( I love that word..it's so compelling..makes me wanna be
compulsive and have compulsions..yes, come pulsate all over..)
The new law, as far as I can tell, is not "compulsory". It is
"universal" - the state will pay for up to 3 hours of preschool for
all 4 years olds, but it is up to the parents whether to participate.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/13498667.htm
Per state law 1003.21, the age of compulsory education is still 6 in
Florida, so even kindergarten is technically optional. That law has
not changed.
http://www.geocities.com/homeshcoolersofcolliercounty/fla_hs_law.html
http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch1003/Sec21.HTM
lojbab
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| User: "baba" |
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31 Dec 2005 05:32:50 PM |
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"Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote in message
news:s8mdr1d8a9n2p4s0p634qcn9oio9b7qvvk@4ax.com...
"baba" <bbdd@terra.spoof.net> wrote:
"Jon Houts" <houtsj@tcfreenet.org> wrote in message
news:1136015124.508120.243570@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
baba wrote:
This Amerika! If he's four he's gotta go to school or people with guns
and
clipboards come to your door.
Where in America? In my part of America, kids can't start kindergarten
unless they're 5 by labor day, and school isn't compulsory till they're
seven.
but,but...
Jon
--------------->
But-but..
This is Miami-Dade County Florida. Jeb's country.
And it just became a law (not sure if that's state law or municipal..I'll
find out though)
that if your child is 4 by when school starts, he or she has to be there.
Compulsory...( I love that word..it's so compelling..makes me wanna be
compulsive and have compulsions..yes, come pulsate all over..)
The new law, as far as I can tell, is not "compulsory". It is
"universal" - the state will pay for up to 3 hours of preschool for
all 4 years olds, but it is up to the parents whether to participate.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/13498667.htm
Per state law 1003.21, the age of compulsory education is still 6 in
Florida, so even kindergarten is technically optional. That law has
not changed.
http://www.geocities.com/homeshcoolersofcolliercounty/fla_hs_law.html
http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch1003/Sec21.HTM
lojbab
Thanks! I'll show this to my wife. That isn't what she heard.
baba
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