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"Cary Kittrell" |
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13 Oct 2005 12:22:17 PM |
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Re: Exorcism University |
In article <3r7h8gFib8g3U1@individual.net> "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
Oh brother!
First day of school for aspiring Vatican exorcists
By Philip PullellaThu Oct 13, 8:00 AM ET
It was the first day of school, so some students were understandably
nervous. But then again, they were not taking just any course, but one run
by a Vatican university to teach aspiring demonologists and exorcists.
"There is no doubt that the devil is intervening more in the life of man
these days," Father Paolo Scarafoni told the students, most of them priests
who want to learn how to tackle the demon if they should ever encounter him.
"Not all of you will become exorcists but it is indispensable that every
priest knows how to discern between demonic possession and psychological
problems," he said.
The four-month course, called "Exorcism and the Prayer of Liberation," is
being offered for the second year by Pontifical Regina Apostolorum
University on Rome's outskirts.
The about 120 students from around the world will hear lectures on topics
such as the pastoral, spiritual, theological, liturgical, medical, legal and
criminological aspects of Satanism and demonic possession.
One planned lecture is called: "Problems related to exorcism and correlated
issues."
One priest, who asked not to be identified, said he decided to take the
course after a "very unsettling experience" while hearing the confession of
one young member of his parish.
"Her voice changed, her face was transformed and she started speaking in a
language that she did not know," he said. "I've met people who are suffering
from this problem and it is not as rare as we might imagine."
So, will he be ready to wrestle with demons of the kind who may have
possessed his parishioner in the confessional box?
"If, after this course, my superiors decide that it will be useful for me to
become an exorcist, I will do it," he said.
REAL-LIFE EXORCISTS
Interest in the devil and the occult has been boosted by films such as this
year's "The Exorcism of Emily Rose," and last year's "Exorcist: The
Beginning," which was the sequel to the original "The Exorcist" in 1973.
But forget the films. The students will have several real-life and well
known exorcists to teach them.
One is Father Gabriele Nanni, who attended Thursday's opening class and
spoke to Reuters during a break.
"First thing is the priest has to know if the devil is at work in a person
or if the problem is somewhere else," he said.
Nanni said there are four sure signs that pointed to demonic possession
rather than psychological problems.
He listed them as:
"When someone speaks or understands languages they normally do not; when
their physical strength is disproportionate to their body size or age; when
they are suddenly knowledgeable about occult practices; when they have a
physical aversion to sacred things, such as the communion host or prayers."
According to some estimates, as many as 5,000 people are thought to be
members of Satanic cults in Italy with 17-to 25-year-olds making up three
quarters of them.
In 1999, the Vatican updated its ritual for exorcism.
It starts with prayers, a blessing and sprinkling of holy water, the laying
on of hands on the possessed, and the making of the sign of the cross.
The formula begins: "I order you, Satan..." It goes on to denounce Satan as
"prince of this world" and "enemy of human salvation." It ends: "Go back,
Satan."
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
I think we ought to see if we can get JDay a full scholarship.
-- cary
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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| Title: Re: Exorcism University |
13 Oct 2005 02:45:22 PM |
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:22:17 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
:
In article <3r7h8gFib8g3U1@individual.net> "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
Oh brother!
First day of school for aspiring Vatican exorcists
By Philip PullellaThu Oct 13, 8:00 AM ET
It was the first day of school, so some students were understandably
nervous. But then again, they were not taking just any course, but one run
by a Vatican university to teach aspiring demonologists and exorcists.
"There is no doubt that the devil is intervening more in the life of man
these days," Father Paolo Scarafoni told the students, most of them priests
who want to learn how to tackle the demon if they should ever encounter him.
"Not all of you will become exorcists but it is indispensable that every
priest knows how to discern between demonic possession and psychological
problems," he said.
The four-month course, called "Exorcism and the Prayer of Liberation," is
being offered for the second year by Pontifical Regina Apostolorum
University on Rome's outskirts.
The about 120 students from around the world will hear lectures on topics
such as the pastoral, spiritual, theological, liturgical, medical, legal
and
criminological aspects of Satanism and demonic possession.
One planned lecture is called: "Problems related to exorcism and correlated
issues."
One priest, who asked not to be identified, said he decided to take the
course after a "very unsettling experience" while hearing the confession of
one young member of his parish.
"Her voice changed, her face was transformed and she started speaking in a
language that she did not know," he said. "I've met people who are
suffering
from this problem and it is not as rare as we might imagine."
So, will he be ready to wrestle with demons of the kind who may have
possessed his parishioner in the confessional box?
"If, after this course, my superiors decide that it will be useful for me
to
become an exorcist, I will do it," he said.
REAL-LIFE EXORCISTS
Interest in the devil and the occult has been boosted by films such as this
year's "The Exorcism of Emily Rose," and last year's "Exorcist: The
Beginning," which was the sequel to the original "The Exorcist" in 1973.
But forget the films. The students will have several real-life and well
known exorcists to teach them.
One is Father Gabriele Nanni, who attended Thursday's opening class and
spoke to Reuters during a break.
"First thing is the priest has to know if the devil is at work in a person
or if the problem is somewhere else," he said.
Nanni said there are four sure signs that pointed to demonic possession
rather than psychological problems.
He listed them as:
"When someone speaks or understands languages they normally do not; when
their physical strength is disproportionate to their body size or age; when
they are suddenly knowledgeable about occult practices; when they have a
physical aversion to sacred things, such as the communion host or prayers."
According to some estimates, as many as 5,000 people are thought to be
members of Satanic cults in Italy with 17-to 25-year-olds making up three
quarters of them.
In 1999, the Vatican updated its ritual for exorcism.
It starts with prayers, a blessing and sprinkling of holy water, the laying
on of hands on the possessed, and the making of the sign of the cross.
The formula begins: "I order you, Satan..." It goes on to denounce Satan as
"prince of this world" and "enemy of human salvation." It ends: "Go back,
Satan."
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
I think we ought to see if we can get JDay a full scholarship.
-- cary
And I think we ought to volunteer him
for the lab part of the course.
++ gray
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Exorcism University |
13 Oct 2005 03:05:30 PM |
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In article <0001HW.BF742382000850D9F0284550@news.giganews.com> writes:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:22:17 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
:
In article <3r7h8gFib8g3U1@individual.net> "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> writes:
Oh brother!
First day of school for aspiring Vatican exorcists
By Philip PullellaThu Oct 13, 8:00 AM ET
It was the first day of school, so some students were understandably
nervous. But then again, they were not taking just any course, but one run
by a Vatican university to teach aspiring demonologists and exorcists.
"There is no doubt that the devil is intervening more in the life of man
these days," Father Paolo Scarafoni told the students, most of them priests
who want to learn how to tackle the demon if they should ever encounter him.
"Not all of you will become exorcists but it is indispensable that every
priest knows how to discern between demonic possession and psychological
problems," he said.
The four-month course, called "Exorcism and the Prayer of Liberation," is
being offered for the second year by Pontifical Regina Apostolorum
University on Rome's outskirts.
The about 120 students from around the world will hear lectures on topics
such as the pastoral, spiritual, theological, liturgical, medical, legal
and
criminological aspects of Satanism and demonic possession.
One planned lecture is called: "Problems related to exorcism and correlated
issues."
One priest, who asked not to be identified, said he decided to take the
course after a "very unsettling experience" while hearing the confession of
one young member of his parish.
"Her voice changed, her face was transformed and she started speaking in a
language that she did not know," he said. "I've met people who are
suffering
from this problem and it is not as rare as we might imagine."
So, will he be ready to wrestle with demons of the kind who may have
possessed his parishioner in the confessional box?
"If, after this course, my superiors decide that it will be useful for me
to
become an exorcist, I will do it," he said.
REAL-LIFE EXORCISTS
Interest in the devil and the occult has been boosted by films such as this
year's "The Exorcism of Emily Rose," and last year's "Exorcist: The
Beginning," which was the sequel to the original "The Exorcist" in 1973.
But forget the films. The students will have several real-life and well
known exorcists to teach them.
One is Father Gabriele Nanni, who attended Thursday's opening class and
spoke to Reuters during a break.
"First thing is the priest has to know if the devil is at work in a person
or if the problem is somewhere else," he said.
Nanni said there are four sure signs that pointed to demonic possession
rather than psychological problems.
He listed them as:
"When someone speaks or understands languages they normally do not; when
their physical strength is disproportionate to their body size or age; when
they are suddenly knowledgeable about occult practices; when they have a
physical aversion to sacred things, such as the communion host or prayers."
According to some estimates, as many as 5,000 people are thought to be
members of Satanic cults in Italy with 17-to 25-year-olds making up three
quarters of them.
In 1999, the Vatican updated its ritual for exorcism.
It starts with prayers, a blessing and sprinkling of holy water, the laying
on of hands on the possessed, and the making of the sign of the cross.
The formula begins: "I order you, Satan..." It goes on to denounce Satan as
"prince of this world" and "enemy of human salvation." It ends: "Go back,
Satan."
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
I think we ought to see if we can get JDay a full scholarship.
-- cary
And I think we ought to volunteer him
for the lab part of the course.
Probably a very good idea. I mean, he's got the head-spinning thing down,
and the speaking-in-strange-tongues bit, and by his own admission the
whole tearing-the-flesh-with-implements routine.
-- cary
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