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User: "Cary Kittrell"
Date: 31 Mar 2004 07:38:38 PM
Object: Re: Gay Marriage Undermins Marriage & Family Culture
In article <c4etvp$rgk$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com> "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> writes:
<
<
<"Poster Boy" <PosterBoy@localhost.com> wrote in message
<news:4r8h6058uiv5cr10635hmn6sb8c129c0p4@4ax.com...
<> On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:08:08 -0600, SemiScholar
<> <noemail@spambegone.com> wrote:
<>
<> >On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:54:45 -0500, Poster Boy
<> ><PosterBoy@localhost.com> wrote:
<> >
<> >>On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:21:01 -0500, "L. Michael Roberts"
<> >><L_Michael_Roberts@NoSpamThanks.net> wrote:
<> >>
<> >>>CB wrote:
<> >>>> Not when we're the majority and dominate culture. Someone has to
<teach the
<> >>>> children well.
<> >>>
<> >>> Wrong! The US constitution specifically protects against the "tyranny
<> >>>of the majority". Just because one particular religious belief is in
<> >>>the majority, does not give that cult the right to indoctrinate the
<> >>>population at large - that is called a theocracy. If you believe this
<> >>>is the way things should be, then take at look at the Vatican, Iraq,
<> >>>Iran and Afghanistan as examples of theocracies.
<> >>>
<> >>>
<> >>>>>>and stick up for our Creator.
<> >>>
<> >>> If, as christians claim, your deity is omnipotent, then why would he
<> >>>need a mere mortal such as yourself to "stick up for him"?
<> >>
<> >>CB, please read your history, about the Pilgrims, and why
<> >>they came to America.
<> >
<> >
<> >So they could escape persectution and be free to persecute others
<> >instead.
<>
<> Damned right! It's the "Christian" way!
<
<How else would the Super Ego keep the Id within it's Pandora's Box?
It's not the place of the government to regulate sin. It's the place
of the government to curb actions which harm individuals, or society
as a whole.
Gay marriage would do neither.
-- cary
.

User: "CB"

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Undermins Marriage & Family Culture 31 Mar 2004 10:14:27 PM
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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In article <c4etvp$rgk$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com> "CB" <CB@prayforme.com>

writes:

<
<
<"Poster Boy" <PosterBoy@localhost.com> wrote in message
<news:4r8h6058uiv5cr10635hmn6sb8c129c0p4@4ax.com...
<> On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:08:08 -0600, SemiScholar
<> <noemail@spambegone.com> wrote:
<>
<> >On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:54:45 -0500, Poster Boy
<> ><PosterBoy@localhost.com> wrote:
<> >
<> >>On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:21:01 -0500, "L. Michael Roberts"
<> >><L_Michael_Roberts@NoSpamThanks.net> wrote:
<> >>
<> >>>CB wrote:
<> >>>> Not when we're the majority and dominate culture. Someone has to
<teach the
<> >>>> children well.
<> >>>
<> >>> Wrong! The US constitution specifically protects against the

"tyranny

<> >>>of the majority". Just because one particular religious belief is

in

<> >>>the majority, does not give that cult the right to indoctrinate the
<> >>>population at large - that is called a theocracy. If you believe

this

<> >>>is the way things should be, then take at look at the Vatican, Iraq,
<> >>>Iran and Afghanistan as examples of theocracies.
<> >>>
<> >>>
<> >>>>>>and stick up for our Creator.
<> >>>
<> >>> If, as christians claim, your deity is omnipotent, then why would

he

<> >>>need a mere mortal such as yourself to "stick up for him"?
<> >>
<> >>CB, please read your history, about the Pilgrims, and why
<> >>they came to America.
<> >
<> >
<> >So they could escape persectution and be free to persecute others
<> >instead.
<>
<> Damned right! It's the "Christian" way!
<
<How else would the Super Ego keep the Id within it's Pandora's Box?


It's not the place of the government to regulate sin. It's the place
of the government to curb actions which harm individuals, or society
as a whole.

Gay marriage would do neither.

Marriage is for families. Children need a balance of masculine and famine
influence. Homosexual marriage is not conducive for a healthy 'family'
environment.
CB
.
User: "Fritz"

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Undermins Marriage & Family Culture 01 Apr 2004 03:21:41 AM
CB wrote:

"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:c4frqu$id6$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu...

In article <c4etvp$rgk$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com> "CB" <CB@prayforme.com>

writes:

<
<
<"Poster Boy" <PosterBoy@localhost.com> wrote in message
<news:4r8h6058uiv5cr10635hmn6sb8c129c0p4@4ax.com...
<> On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:08:08 -0600, SemiScholar
<> <noemail@spambegone.com> wrote:
<>
<> >On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:54:45 -0500, Poster Boy
<> ><PosterBoy@localhost.com> wrote:
<> >
<> >>On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:21:01 -0500, "L. Michael Roberts"
<> >><L_Michael_Roberts@NoSpamThanks.net> wrote:
<> >>
<> >>>CB wrote:
<> >>>> Not when we're the majority and dominate culture. Someone has to
<teach the
<> >>>> children well.
<> >>>
<> >>> Wrong! The US constitution specifically protects against the

"tyranny

<> >>>of the majority". Just because one particular religious belief is

in

<> >>>the majority, does not give that cult the right to indoctrinate the
<> >>>population at large - that is called a theocracy. If you believe

this

<> >>>is the way things should be, then take at look at the Vatican, Iraq,
<> >>>Iran and Afghanistan as examples of theocracies.
<> >>>
<> >>>
<> >>>>>>and stick up for our Creator.
<> >>>
<> >>> If, as christians claim, your deity is omnipotent, then why would

he

<> >>>need a mere mortal such as yourself to "stick up for him"?
<> >>
<> >>CB, please read your history, about the Pilgrims, and why
<> >>they came to America.
<> >
<> >
<> >So they could escape persectution and be free to persecute others
<> >instead.
<>
<> Damned right! It's the "Christian" way!
<
<How else would the Super Ego keep the Id within it's Pandora's Box?


It's not the place of the government to regulate sin. It's the place
of the government to curb actions which harm individuals, or society
as a whole.

Gay marriage would do neither.


Marriage is for families. Children need a balance of masculine and famine
influence. Homosexual marriage is not conducive for a healthy 'family'
environment.

How would you know? You don't even know what a homosexual is.
--
Fritz
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Religion = tyranny.
.
User: "Bob VB"

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Undermins Marriage & Family Culture 01 Apr 2004 10:13:14 AM
In article <406BDF23.61EC7BE6@1sib2dw81ncnytpl.net>, Fritz
<fsmith@1sib2dw81ncnytpl.net> wrote:

Gay marriage would do neither.


Marriage is for families. Children need a balance of masculine and famine
influence. Homosexual marriage is not conducive for a healthy 'family'
environment.


How would you know? You don't even know what a homosexual is.

And of course that isn't true. Yes being raised in a same sex
household can be different than an opposite sex one but studies have
shown that the kids turn out great in both. As with most things that
attract bigots the variation *within* the groups they are comparing is
greater than the variation *between* the groups. They'd be far more on
the mark whining about unhealthy families by concentrating on fat
parents, lazy parents, stupid parents, absence parents, etc and not
gay parents.
.
User: "Fritz"

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Undermins Marriage & Family Culture 02 Apr 2004 12:57:54 AM
Bob VB wrote:

In article <406BDF23.61EC7BE6@1sib2dw81ncnytpl.net>, Fritz
<fsmith@1sib2dw81ncnytpl.net> wrote:

Gay marriage would do neither.


Marriage is for families. Children need a balance of masculine and famine
influence. Homosexual marriage is not conducive for a healthy 'family'
environment.


How would you know? You don't even know what a homosexual is.


And of course that isn't true.

What isn't true?

Yes being raised in a same sex
household can be different than an opposite sex one but studies have
shown that the kids turn out great in both. As with most things that
attract bigots the variation *within* the groups they are comparing is
greater than the variation *between* the groups. They'd be far more on
the mark whining about unhealthy families by concentrating on fat
parents, lazy parents, stupid parents, absence parents, etc and not
gay parents.

--
Fritz
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Religion = tyranny.
.
User: "RobertVB"

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Undermins Marriage & Family Culture 02 Apr 2004 02:20:19 AM
In article <406D0EF2.C2C78993@1sib2dw81ncnytpl.net>, Fritz
<fsmith@1sib2dw81ncnytpl.net> wrote:

Bob VB wrote:

In article <406BDF23.61EC7BE6@1sib2dw81ncnytpl.net>, Fritz
<fsmith@1sib2dw81ncnytpl.net> wrote:

Gay marriage would do neither.


Marriage is for families. Children need a balance of masculine and
famine
influence. Homosexual marriage is not conducive for a healthy 'family'
environment.



And of course that isn't true.


What isn't true?

Yes being raised in a same sex
household can be different than an opposite sex one but studies have
shown that the kids turn out great in both. As with most things that
attract bigots the variation *within* the groups they are comparing is
greater than the variation *between* the groups. They'd be far more on
the mark whining about unhealthy families by concentrating on fat
parents, lazy parents, stupid parents, absence parents, etc and not
gay parents.

sorry line got cut wrong... better (it was for CB)
.




User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Undermins Marriage & Family Culture 01 Apr 2004 10:14:14 AM
In article <c4g4v0$264$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com> "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> writes:
<
<"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
<news:c4frqu$id6$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu...
<> In article <c4etvp$rgk$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com> "CB" <CB@prayforme.com>
<writes:
<> <
<> <
<> <"Poster Boy" <PosterBoy@localhost.com> wrote in message
<> <news:4r8h6058uiv5cr10635hmn6sb8c129c0p4@4ax.com...
<> <> On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:08:08 -0600, SemiScholar
<> <> <noemail@spambegone.com> wrote:
<> <>
<> <> >On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:54:45 -0500, Poster Boy
<> <> ><PosterBoy@localhost.com> wrote:
<> <> >
<> <> >>On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 12:21:01 -0500, "L. Michael Roberts"
<> <> >><L_Michael_Roberts@NoSpamThanks.net> wrote:
<> <> >>
<> <> >>>CB wrote:
<> <> >>>> Not when we're the majority and dominate culture. Someone has to
<> <teach the
<> <> >>>> children well.
<> <> >>>
<> <> >>> Wrong! The US constitution specifically protects against the
<"tyranny
<> <> >>>of the majority". Just because one particular religious belief is
<in
<> <> >>>the majority, does not give that cult the right to indoctrinate the
<> <> >>>population at large - that is called a theocracy. If you believe
<this
<> <> >>>is the way things should be, then take at look at the Vatican, Iraq,
<> <> >>>Iran and Afghanistan as examples of theocracies.
<> <> >>>
<> <> >>>
<> <> >>>>>>and stick up for our Creator.
<> <> >>>
<> <> >>> If, as christians claim, your deity is omnipotent, then why would
<he
<> <> >>>need a mere mortal such as yourself to "stick up for him"?
<> <> >>
<> <> >>CB, please read your history, about the Pilgrims, and why
<> <> >>they came to America.
<> <> >
<> <> >
<> <> >So they could escape persectution and be free to persecute others
<> <> >instead.
<> <>
<> <> Damned right! It's the "Christian" way!
<> <
<> <How else would the Super Ego keep the Id within it's Pandora's Box?
<>
<>
<> It's not the place of the government to regulate sin. It's the place
<> of the government to curb actions which harm individuals, or society
<> as a whole.
<>
<> Gay marriage would do neither.
<
<Marriage is for families. Children need a balance of masculine and famine
<influence. Homosexual marriage is not conducive for a healthy 'family'
<environment.
<
1) Most gay marriages will not have children.
2) And regarding those that do, your assertion is simply your assertion.
I can quote you a list of studies which were unable to find any
problems, psychological or otherwise, associated with children
raised by gay parents. Until you can demonstrate otherwise,
you contention remains in the category of "something CB just
now made up".
3) If "marriage is for families", shall we forbid those straights
not intending to have children to marry? Shall we annul the marriages
if those who marry and then discover that they're infertile? If
you cannot answer "yes" to both these questions, then marriage
is also for families which do not include children, and your point
is irrelevant.
-- cary
.
User: "RobertVB"

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Undermins Marriage & Family Culture 01 Apr 2004 10:46:25 AM
In article <c4hf4m$e8h$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>, Cary Kittrell
<cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote:

<Marriage is for families. Children need a balance of masculine and famine
<influence. Homosexual marriage is not conducive for a healthy 'family'
<environment.
<

1) Most gay marriages will not have children.

But many will and regardless of how fundies feel about that those
families would still benefit from the parents being joined by the
secular contract of marriage.


2) And regarding those that do, your assertion is simply your assertion.
I can quote you a list of studies which were unable to find any
problems, psychological or otherwise, associated with children
raised by gay parents. Until you can demonstrate otherwise,
you contention remains in the category of "something CB just
now made up".

Yes there are many studies that show gay parents are just swell - this
is just a sound bite that they regurgitate on command.


3) If "marriage is for families", shall we forbid those straights
not intending to have children to marry? Shall we annul the marriages
if those who marry and then discover that they're infertile? If
you cannot answer "yes" to both these questions, then marriage
is also for families which do not include children, and your point
is irrelevant.

that's why long ago the Supreme Court of the United States said that
the contract of marriage can NOT be based on the ability to have
children. One of the 'colony' states was trying to prevent mentally
handicapped people who had been involuntarily sterilized from getting
married - SCOTUS said no way - being able to get a contract of marriage
was a fundamental right and couldn't be made dependent on fertility.
And of course, with the heterosexual divorce rate at 50% many families
are composed of children from previous marriage and the couple has no
intention of having more of their own.
Oh as an interesting aside I've been told that the state of Utah will
only allow first cousins to marry if they ARE incapable of having
children. :)
.


User: "RobertVB"

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Undermins Marriage & Family Culture 31 Mar 2004 10:31:14 PM
In article <c4g4v0$264$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>, CB
<CB@prayforme.com> wrote:

It's not the place of the government to regulate sin. It's the place
of the government to curb actions which harm individuals, or society
as a whole.

Gay marriage would do neither.


Marriage is for families. Children need a balance of masculine and famine
influence. Homosexual marriage is not conducive for a healthy 'family'
environment.

Many gay people have families and they will continue to have families
whether they can marry or not. Allowing them to marry would improve
the home environment and therefor, for the children's sake, they should
be allowed to marry.
.

User: "Lars Eighner"

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Undermins Marriage & Family Culture 01 Apr 2004 03:26:34 AM
In our last episode,
<c4g4v0$264$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>,
the lovely and talented CB
broadcast on alt.politics.homosexuality:

Children need a balance of masculine and famine
influence.

I guess that puts Ethiopian kids in the catbird seat.
--
Lars Eighner -finger for geek code-
http://www.io.com/~eighner/
"With a heavy dose of fear and violence, and a lot of money for projects,
I think we can convince these people that we are here to help them"
-- Lt. Col. Nathan Sassaman
.

User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Undermins Marriage & Family Culture 31 Mar 2004 10:55:44 PM
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:14:27 -0600, CB wrote
(in message <c4g4v0$264$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>):

Marriage is for families. Children need a balance of masculine and famine
influence. Homosexual marriage is not conducive for a healthy 'family'
environment.

And where are the studies on homosexual marriage to which you're referring?
Or is "Homosexual marriage is not conducive for a healthy 'family'
environment" CB's opinion and CB is speaking ex cathreda from the reason
"his" breath is so bad.
Ya know, the reason I so despise and hold in contempt you and your little
band of haters is that you are against "love". It's just that simple.
Do you really and truly think that there is so much love in the world that
you or anyone - for that matter - can choose to say that "this kind" or "that
kind" of love is wrong, evil, immoral and fattening?
When all is said and done, Charlie Barta thinks that what is like Charlie
Barta is good and what is unlike Charlie Barta is bad. The pity of Charlie
Barta, though, is what Charlie Barta "thinks", apparently, is good is hatred
and ole Charlie Boy doesn't "think" very much of love.
And, while BartaBoy has my pity, "he" certainly does not have my respect (and
I doubt seriously if I am the only person who has this extremely negative
attitude about "him".
Gray Shockley
--------------------------------------------------------
When trouble arises and things look bad, there is always one
individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take
command. Very often, that individual is crazy. -Author Unk
.
User: "Poster Boy"

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Undermins Marriage & Family Culture 31 Mar 2004 11:57:14 PM
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:55:44 -0600, Gray Shockley
<gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> wrote:

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:14:27 -0600, CB wrote
(in message <c4g4v0$264$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>):

Marriage is for families. Children need a balance of masculine and famine
influence. Homosexual marriage is not conducive for a healthy 'family'
environment.



And where are the studies on homosexual marriage to which you're referring?


Or is "Homosexual marriage is not conducive for a healthy 'family'
environment" CB's opinion and CB is speaking ex cathreda from the reason
"his" breath is so bad.


Ya know, the reason I so despise and hold in contempt you and your little
band of haters is that you are against "love". It's just that simple.

Do you really and truly think that there is so much love in the world that
you or anyone - for that matter - can choose to say that "this kind" or "that
kind" of love is wrong, evil, immoral and fattening?


When all is said and done, Charlie Barta thinks that what is like Charlie
Barta is good and what is unlike Charlie Barta is bad. The pity of Charlie
Barta, though, is what Charlie Barta "thinks", apparently, is good is hatred
and ole Charlie Boy doesn't "think" very much of love.

And, while BartaBoy has my pity, "he" certainly does not have my respect (and
I doubt seriously if I am the only person who has this extremely negative
attitude about "him".

I have CB killfiled (life is too short to waste on hate-
mongers) but here is a link to the American Psychiatric
Association FactSheet on GLB issues which flatly contradicts
his babble:
http://www.psych.org/public_info/gaylesbianbisexualissues22701.pdf
Of course CB and the other pro-hate/anti-love forces will
not accept it because it disagrees with their intellectually
vacuous religious dogma, and especially because it is based
on science (not a particularly strong point for these Scopes
Monkey Trial types,) but I no longer care what these
anachronisms think. Here is the quote:
How Do the Children of Gay/Lesbians Parents Fare?
"Many gay men and women are parents. For example, estimates
of the numbers of lesbian mothers range from 1 to 5 million
and with the number of children ranging from 6 to 14
million. Most gay parents conceived their children in prior
heterosexual marriages. Recently an increasing number of gay
parents have conceived children and raised them from birth
either as single parents or in committed relationships.
Often this is done through alternative insemination,
adoption or through foster parenting. Numerous studies have
shown that the children of gay parents are as likely to be
healthy and well adjusted as children raised in heterosexual
households. Children raised in gay or lesbian households do
not show any greater incidence of homosexuality or gender
identity issues than other children. Children raised in
nontraditional homes with gay/lesbian parents can encounter
some special challenges related to the ongoing stigma
against homosexuality, but most children surmount these
problems."
In other words (to simplify for the mentally challenged CB,)
the only problems children of gay marriages have is a result
of bigotry from the likes of CB and his KKKult of hate. So
much for his brand of "family values."
.
User: "CB"

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Undermins Marriage & Family Culture 01 Apr 2004 10:46:52 PM
"Poster Boy" <PosterBoy@localhost.com> wrote in message
news:tsan60lc670rili3p84patq15pc724doob@4ax.com...

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:55:44 -0600, Gray Shockley
<gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> wrote:

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:14:27 -0600, CB wrote
(in message <c4g4v0$264$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>):

Marriage is for families. Children need a balance of masculine and

famine

influence. Homosexual marriage is not conducive for a healthy 'family'
environment.



And where are the studies on homosexual marriage to which you're

referring?



Or is "Homosexual marriage is not conducive for a healthy 'family'
environment" CB's opinion and CB is speaking ex cathreda from the reason
"his" breath is so bad.


Ya know, the reason I so despise and hold in contempt you and your little
band of haters is that you are against "love". It's just that simple.

Do you really and truly think that there is so much love in the world

that

you or anyone - for that matter - can choose to say that "this kind" or

"that

kind" of love is wrong, evil, immoral and fattening?


When all is said and done, Charlie Barta thinks that what is like Charlie
Barta is good and what is unlike Charlie Barta is bad. The pity of

Charlie

Barta, though, is what Charlie Barta "thinks", apparently, is good is

hatred

and ole Charlie Boy doesn't "think" very much of love.

And, while BartaBoy has my pity, "he" certainly does not have my respect

(and

I doubt seriously if I am the only person who has this extremely negative
attitude about "him".


I have CB killfiled (life is too short to waste on hate-
mongers) but here is a link to the American Psychiatric
Association FactSheet on GLB issues which flatly contradicts
his babble:

http://www.psych.org/public_info/gaylesbianbisexualissues22701.pdf

Of course CB and the other pro-hate/anti-love forces will
not accept it because it disagrees with their intellectually
vacuous religious dogma, and especially because it is based
on science (not a particularly strong point for these Scopes
Monkey Trial types,) but I no longer care what these
anachronisms think. Here is the quote:

How Do the Children of Gay/Lesbians Parents Fare?

"Many gay men and women are parents. For example, estimates
of the numbers of lesbian mothers range from 1 to 5 million
and with the number of children ranging from 6 to 14
million. Most gay parents conceived their children in prior
heterosexual marriages. Recently an increasing number of gay
parents have conceived children and raised them from birth
either as single parents or in committed relationships.
Often this is done through alternative insemination,
adoption or through foster parenting. Numerous studies have
shown that the children of gay parents are as likely to be
healthy and well adjusted as children raised in heterosexual
households. Children raised in gay or lesbian households do
not show any greater incidence of homosexuality or gender
identity issues than other children. Children raised in
nontraditional homes with gay/lesbian parents can encounter
some special challenges related to the ongoing stigma
against homosexuality, but most children surmount these
problems."

In other words (to simplify for the mentally challenged CB,)
the only problems children of gay marriages have is a result
of bigotry from the likes of CB and his KKKult of hate. So
much for his brand of "family values."

Notice the hate words used.
--
CB
"[A]ll history is a witness of the truth...that good morals are essential to
the faithful and upright discharge of public functions."
-- Noah Webster
.
User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: Gay Marriage Undermins Marriage & Family Culture 21 May 2004 02:57:32 AM
CB wrote):

In other words (to simplify for the mentally challenged CB,)
the only problems children of gay marriages have is a result
of bigotry from the likes of CB and his KKKult of hate. So
much for his brand of "family values."


Notice the hate words used.

Yup. I also hate the Ku Klux Klans. I also hated the East Germans, the
VietCong and those who have practised incest so often that no one is sure how
various "family members" are related.
I guess us folks just don't have love, worship and admiration in unending
supply like you and your fellows do.
I'll leave you and the above-mentioned groups to enjoy yourselves with each
other while I go practice hating collectivists, nutso freakos, Charles Manson
and Associates as well as Zell Miller and the unethical Roy "I'll sell my
sould for an election" Moore.
Y'all have fun now; hear?
Gray Shockley
-----------------------------------------
Don't Change Horsemen in
the Middle of an Apocalypse.
- Mrs. Betty Bowers
.


User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Barta Undermines Integrity and Morality [was:Gay Marriage Undermins Marriage & Family Culture] 01 Apr 2004 01:11:04 AM
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:57:14 -0600, Poster Boy wrote:

I have CB killfiled (life is too short to waste on hate-
mongers)

[chuckle] Not by /my/ standards. I spent a number of years a number of years
ago delaing with the KuKluxKlans (and such) so a failure such as C "wacko" B
can be amusing. I actually had more fun with John Latrino Knight - idiot
extraordinary - but he /was/ beginning to bore. So - out of the holey trinity
of CB, Jd and K C, I've been killfooling two of them and receiving one. It's
amusement that cheapo and easy.

but here is a link to the American Psychiatric
Association FactSheet on GLB issues which flatly contradicts
his babble:

http://www.psych.org/public_info/gaylesbianbisexualissues22701.pdf

To be quite truthful, homosexuality bores the hell out of me. Heck,
heterosexuality bores me except when it's with my lover, best friend and wife
(in case someone is not too bright (or mebbe not), that's one person - maybe
like the HOLY - rather than holey - trinity <grin>).
[I just noticed it's my wedding anniversary. [We
just had to get married on a religious holiday.]]

Of course CB and the other pro-hate/anti-love forces will
not accept it because it disagrees with their intellectually
vacuous religious dogma,

Oh,h,h - I like that "vacuous religious dogma" phrase.

and especially because it is based
on science (not a particularly strong point for these Scopes
Monkey Trial types,) but I no longer care what these
anachronisms think. Here is the quote:

[major chomp]


I just don't really care what someone's sexual orientation is, what a
person's political party is, what a person does for a living (et cetera et
cetera et cetera as King Yul of French Indo-China was fond of saying). I
judge and become friends with people because they are interesting,
intelligent and have integrity and decency and are not meanspirited.
When ya get that far, it's pretty durn stupid to have any more
'qualifications".

In other words (to simplify for the mentally challenged CB,)
the only problems children of gay marriages have is a result
of bigotry from the likes of CB and his KKKult of hate. So
much for his brand of "family values."

Ya know, that's a pretty good description of BartaBoy. Barta does resemble
the Klans and - a group which once threw bricks at me (and others - mainly
MLK) - the American Nazi Party (doesn't count, I'm talking 'bout people who
quote Hitler) and CB would fit into either group quite well.
I can't help but wonder if Barta were seen by a psychiatrist, if Barta
wouldn't have a new room (and board) by the end of the day.
Gray Shockley
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"One man's religion is another man's belly laugh."
- Jubal Harshaw
(Channeled through RAH)
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