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29 Apr 2006 02:38:10 PM |
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Re: Modern Anthropology and its Political Agendas |
"Comm" <no@spam.com> wrote:
"Michael Hearne" <here@home.us> wrote in message
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Let us just suppose, that after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed,
that the government had stayed out of it, and not "artificially" done
anything at all.
That's the key word, the word that Secret Squirrel on here makes himself
blind to. ARTIFICIALLY DONE - they FORCED the issue. It's not a case that
"now that we can integrate - we can ALL go do it hurrah." No such thing.
It was FORCED on people. Why use force?
Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
Because racists like you need to be forced, or you'll turn us into the
Balkans, perpetually at war against people who you think are different
from you.
For 2 generations the Balkans were FORCED to hold their breath,
and pretend they were 'all the same'. Once they could separate
the cause of conflict disapeared.
Because of that force, the next generation is far more free of racism
than ours, and the one after them now being born might be entirely
free of it,
Well yes, probalbly in the limiting case, if you force interbreeding
[laboratory like] for a few generations, you'll have less race awareness.
But then pee-cee-pushers can't 'celibrate our diversity' ?
Or in a racially homogenous society, are there not 'physically attribute
popular fads' ? I want to start an APARTheid movement against
Micro$loth top-posters !
Why not just BAN the force and let freedom of choice reign supreme.
Because racists don't deserve the freedom to discriminate. They can
go elsewhere if they don't want to be part of the melting pot/salad
bowl that is America.
Well Europe is screwed too: eg. 2 generations of denying genetic
reality has given undenialble results in france, netherlands ...etc.
Now afirmative action patching will just encourage a further flood
from africa.
Only East Asia is still imune.
== Chris Glur
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| User: "Day Brown" |
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| Title: Re: Modern Anthropology and its Political Agendas |
30 Apr 2006 12:02:41 AM |
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In The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Gibbon reports that in the
province of Illrycium, when the pope took over, he seized land, and gave
it to his partisans so as to have someone on hand to keep an eye on
things for him.
Then, when the Sultan took over, he seized land, and gave it to
partisans to keep an eye on things for him, and when the patriarch took
over, he did the same.
Gibbon said that this would be the cause of endless wars, and the start
of many spilling out of the region, which we knew as Yugoslavia.
After Tito, when religion was freed, Catholic priests and Muslim Mullahs
were ranting from their pulpits against birth control. However the Serbs
were Eastern Orthodox, and their women practiced it.
Thus it was, that while the Serbs only had one or two kids, and could
therefore afford to send them to college, the Croats and Albanians were
swamping the school systems with kids they could barely afford to feed,
much less educate.
In 1980, the Serbs were 34% of the population, and according to the
constitution, were able to prevent the 2/3 majority needed to increase
what we call entitlements. The Serbs also saw that while they wanted to
upgrade the school system to meet German, ie, global standards, the
Catholics and Muslims wanted to keep their women barefoot and pregnant,
and didnt want a modern education system.
So- the Serbs began private schools with better standards, and chaffed
at having to pay increasing taxes to build new schools to lower
standards for the masses of cathoics and muslims. There was *NO*
democratic solution, so they fixed the problem the old fashioned, ie,
Roman way.
As Gibbon reports, when the republic had an intractable political
problem, they would find a man of impeccable character, and endow him
with the power such that "his word shall be law." The name for that
office: "Dictator". They found Dr. Malosevic to solve the problem for
them. Since the good doctor was not Hitler, STalin, or Mao, he followed
Machiavelli's advice, and murdered just 10% of the non-serb population
that had been out breeding Serbs in their own traditional areas. Given
the circumstances, and power, American Indians would do the same.
I've posted on this several times already, and no liberal has ever come
up with a rebuttal. The silence is deafening.
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| User: "Philbert Desenex" |
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| Title: Re: Modern Anthropology and its Political Agendas |
30 Apr 2006 12:47:36 PM |
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"Day Brown" <daybrown@wildblue.net> wrote in message
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As Gibbon reports, when the republic had an intractable political problem,
they would find a man of impeccable character, and endow him with the
power such that "his word shall be law." The name for that office:
"Dictator". They found Dr. Malosevic to solve the problem for them. Since
the good doctor was not Hitler, STalin, or Mao, he followed Machiavelli's
advice, and murdered just 10% of the non-serb population that had been out
breeding Serbs in their own traditional areas. Given the circumstances,
and power, American Indians would do the same.
I've posted on this several times already, and no liberal has ever come up
with a rebuttal. The silence is deafening.
Gosh. I just can't imagine why nobody takes you seriously....
--
Philbert Desenex, PhD., Stromatologist
University of Okoboji, Northern Iowa
Office hours: 2 -3, Thur-Fri
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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| Title: Re: Modern Anthropology and its Political Agendas |
30 Apr 2006 10:25:24 PM |
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Day Brown <daybrown@wildblue.net> wrote:
I've posted on this several times already, and no liberal has ever come
up with a rebuttal. The silence is deafening.
Probably because it is unsupported and unsupportable nonsense that
makes multiple questionable assumptions in every sentence.
lojbab
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| User: "Day Brown" |
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| Title: Re: Modern Anthropology and its Political Agendas |
30 Apr 2006 11:06:06 PM |
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Bob LeChevalier wrote:
Day Brown <daybrown@wildblue.net> wrote:
I've posted on this several times already, and no liberal has ever come
up with a rebuttal. The silence is deafening.
Probably because it is unsupported and unsupportable nonsense that
makes multiple questionable assumptions in every sentence.
lojbab
you wanna pick one? Or- you wanna read Machiavelli first?
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| User: "Comm" |
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| Title: Re: Modern Anthropology and its Political Agendas |
14 May 2006 04:05:35 PM |
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Just saw this one. See in.
<news@absamail.co.za> wrote in message
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"Comm" <no@spam.com> wrote:
"Michael Hearne" <here@home.us> wrote in message
news:zyI2g.11568$i41.3236@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Let us just suppose, that after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was
passed,
that the government had stayed out of it, and not "artificially" done
anything at all.
That's the key word, the word that Secret Squirrel on here makes himself
blind to. ARTIFICIALLY DONE - they FORCED the issue. It's not a case
that
"now that we can integrate - we can ALL go do it hurrah." No such
thing.
It was FORCED on people. Why use force?
Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
Because racists like you need to be forced, or you'll turn us into the
Balkans, perpetually at war against people who you think are different
from you.
For 2 generations the Balkans were FORCED to hold their breath,
and pretend they were 'all the same'. Once they could separate
the cause of conflict disapeared.
Indeed, they separated. Free choice.
Because of that force, the next generation is far more free of racism
than ours, and the one after them now being born might be entirely
free of it,
Well yes, probalbly in the limiting case, if you force interbreeding
[laboratory like] for a few generations, you'll have less race awareness.
Heh, no one is going to do that.
But then pee-cee-pushers can't 'celibrate our diversity' ?
Or in a racially homogenous society, are there not 'physically attribute
popular fads' ? I want to start an APARTheid movement against
Micro$loth top-posters !
Scandinavian countries were homogenous and the quality of living there was
the tops. Now that they are getting unwanted "guests" - their govs are
tending toward the right wing. How predictable!
Why not just BAN the force and let freedom of choice reign supreme.
Because racists don't deserve the freedom to discriminate. They can
go elsewhere if they don't want to be part of the melting pot/salad
bowl that is America.
America is not a salad bowl. It's balkanized.
Well Europe is screwed too: eg. 2 generations of denying genetic
reality has given undenialble results in france, netherlands ...etc.
Now afirmative action patching will just encourage a further flood
from africa.
Europe is fucked.
Only East Asia is still imune.
East Asians are a lot smarter than everyone else, too. They don't tend to
get their feathers ruffled by idiots calling them silly names, either. They
ignore it. One gay guy that went to Europe to live freely with his lover,
ended up writing a book cuz some Moslem murdered his lover for BEING gay.
Yet the tolerant Europeans tolerate that, say nothing - they live in dread
emotional fear of being branded with the Hitler heritage. Yes, the DEAD
THREAT of Hitler. That causes otherwise intelligent people to IGNORE the
real live threat in their own countries. Europe either AWAKE - or Europe is
going to perish.
== Chris Glur
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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| Title: Re: Modern Anthropology and its Political Agendas |
15 May 2006 01:04:31 AM |
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"Comm" <no@spam.com> wrote:
For 2 generations the Balkans were FORCED to hold their breath,
and pretend they were 'all the same'. Once they could separate
the cause of conflict disapeared.
Indeed, they separated. Free choice.
I think NATO troops had a lot to do with it as well.
But then pee-cee-pushers can't 'celibrate our diversity' ?
Or in a racially homogenous society, are there not 'physically attribute
popular fads' ? I want to start an APARTheid movement against
Micro$loth top-posters !
Scandinavian countries were homogenous and the quality of living there was
the tops. Now that they are getting unwanted "guests" - their govs are
tending toward the right wing. How predictable!
Their "right wing" governments are well to the left of our Democrats.
Because racists don't deserve the freedom to discriminate. They can
go elsewhere if they don't want to be part of the melting pot/salad
bowl that is America.
America is not a salad bowl. It's balkanized.
No it isn't. I don't think you know what "balkanized" means. I
suspect it is not unlike what you want to see happen.
lojbab
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| User: "Comm" |
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| Title: Re: Modern Anthropology and its Political Agendas |
18 May 2006 10:50:15 AM |
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"Bob LeChevalier" <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote in message
news:o66g6299h9c2ijnatq3hnvpg10dmsd5q39@4ax.com...
"Comm" <no@spam.com> wrote:
For 2 generations the Balkans were FORCED to hold their breath,
and pretend they were 'all the same'. Once they could separate
the cause of conflict disapeared.
Indeed, they separated. Free choice.
I think NATO troops had a lot to do with it as well.
But then pee-cee-pushers can't 'celibrate our diversity' ?
Or in a racially homogenous society, are there not 'physically attribute
popular fads' ? I want to start an APARTheid movement against
Micro$loth top-posters !
Scandinavian countries were homogenous and the quality of living there was
the tops. Now that they are getting unwanted "guests" - their govs are
tending toward the right wing. How predictable!
Their "right wing" governments are well to the left of our Democrats.
Because racists don't deserve the freedom to discriminate. They can
go elsewhere if they don't want to be part of the melting pot/salad
bowl that is America.
America is not a salad bowl. It's balkanized.
No it isn't. I don't think you know what "balkanized" means. I
suspect it is not unlike what you want to see happen.
Boy, are you confused. I want to see ASSIMILATION. In the private sector -
people should have freedom of choice to have what they want. PRIVATE.
PRIVATE schools, PRIVATE fraternities or sororities, PRIVATE communities
(like 55 and older only type thing). PRIVATE clubs, etc. SMALL private
business. EG, WHY NOT let the guy hire his cousins or sons? Balkanized:
In NYC you have Chinatown and Little Italy. They fight with each other all
the time. Further balkanization - when neither group assimilates into the
whole-American society and neither group speaks English. If you used the
stupid "forced integration for black and white people" system, you'd be
relocating Italians and Chinese, telling them where they can or can't live,
forcing them to commute to schools that aren't in their own neighborhoods.
That's a STUPID idea - and it's no longer legal to do that, thanks to what
the ARBC started (me, Jeff, Wayne did that - we started the ball rolling and
it finally rolled to the supreme court where one judge used my own words
"draconian tyranny." ).
When my people came here - I think you have no conception of HOW different
we were - like freaking aliens from another world - THAT different. When we
got here, we immediately learned what's done in "Rome" and we learned to do
it, speak it - we had to learn capitalism, heh. Well, we did it, in our own
unique collective way - and that's HOW we got ahead so fast. You seem to be
ignorant of how powerful collectives are in the middle of individualistic
societies. We also never made waves.
lojbab
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