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Re: Ungrateful black kids hassle white civil rights activist |
"WhiteLiberal" <no.spam@no.spam> wrote in message
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Virginia Durr is a famous as a white activist who fought for most
of her life for equal civil rights and fair treatment of black people.
For this cause she endured threats and social ostracism. Her children
were harassed in school.
She and her husband were the ones who bailed Rosa Parks out of jail
in Montgomery, Alabama and supported the year-long bus boycott.
In fact she was one of the key white people who helped bring about
desegregation in the South and better opportunities for blacks.
However, not all of them seem to know this, or even care.
Here's what happened when Ms. Durr visited a sociology class
full of black kids at Tuskegee Institute (from Chapter 22 of her
autobiography, _Outside the Magic Circle_):
---------------------------------------------------------------
As I began, I could feel a sense of hostility in the room, a sense
of coldness, nonresponse, but I began anyway. I said, "I don't
want to bore you young people with a two-hour seminar by telling
you the things that you already know. I'd like to know how many
people here have read and know about the case of _Gomillion v.
Lightfoot_." Not one of them had ever read the case or ever heard
of the book about that case. "My goodness, that's too bad because
this is about Macon County and it's about the long struggle for
the right to vote that Dr. Gomillion led." No response at all.
"Have you ever read DuBois's book, _The Souls of Black Folks_?
I think that is also one of the great classics that everybody should
read." Nobody'd ever heard of it. "Have you read Dr. Horace Mann
Bond's book, _Negro Education in Alabama_ which I also consider
one of the great classics of Alabama history?" Nobody'd ever heard
of that.
A young girl was sitting right behind me and all of a sudden she
said, "You old lady, we don't want to hear you anyway. You just
coming down here to take us down. 'Have we read this? Have we read
that?' You just coming here to take us down. We know what kind of
folks you are. We don't want to hear you." With that the whole
class joined in: "No, we don't want to hear no white folks." I was
shocked beyond words. I had never been treated that way in my life
by black or white, with just open, insulting repudiation. There
was a girl in the back of the classroom who was flapping a book.
She had gotten a great big book and she kept flapping the pages.
I said, "I really can't say anything until the young lady over there
stops making so much noise."
"I'll make all the noise I want to. I don't want to hear no white
folks anyway."
TNB.
Finally I said, "Now look, there are twenty-three people here.
Each one of you has made it perfectly plain to me that you don't
care one single thing about what I have to say... but I am very
eager to hear what you have to say. If you don't think we came to
talk about the right to vote..."
"That don't mean nothing!"
I asked, "Well, what does mean something? Mainly, I want to know
why all of you hate me so much. You've never seen me before. You
don't know anything about me. You're just expressing all this
hatred for me because I'm white, which I can't help but be. Why do
you hate me so much?"
I took each in turn and they told me why they hated white people.
One of them was a veteran and something had happened to him in
Vietnam and he hated white folks. The twenty-three black kids who
were sitting there each told me in detail why they hated white
folks. This took quite a white because they were extremely
articulate about why they hated white folks.
I said, "you don't believe that politics is going to do you any
good?" No. they said the big shots, the black leaders, in Tuskegee
were just as bad as white folks any day. The black mayor and the
black sheriff and the black people who'd been elected were no
better than the whites before them.
Probably because they "acted White."
"What about Greene County?" I asked.
"They're a bunch of crooks, too. They're no good."
"You don't believe that politics is going to help your position at
all?"
"No, not at all."
"Do any of you vote? Have you been registered?" None of them had
even registered.
So much for Bush "stealing" the election.
"Do you think that the law, the federal courts, have helped you
any?"
"They don't amount to nothing either."
"Well, then you tell me what you think the solution is." And they
gave me their solution -- and this was unanimous.
"Eldridge Cleaver's coming back and we're going to take it away
from the white folks. We're going to take what they got. We want
what the white folks have got."
TNB BIG TIME. The niggers want it ALL, they want it NOW, and don't give a
***** how they get it, just as long as they don't have to work for it.
"In other words, you see the solution as economic?"
"We want what the white folks got."
The meeting ended on that note. They didn't give a damn about
politics or about the right to vote or the right to sit down in a
bus. It was like the time I asked young Donny, who worked for me
on Saturdays, "Haven't you ever heard about the big struggle for
desegregation of the buses?"
"Huh, Mrs, Durr, you wants to ride on a _bus_? I want a car of my
own."
A Welfare Cadillac, no doubt.
They have absolutely no trust or faith in law or politics. They
want a car. They want a good house. They want a job. They want
opportunity to rise in the world. Eldridge Cleaver was coming back
and he was going to have a revolution. Cleaver had married a girl
from Tuskegee whose father was on the faculty and at that time he
was in Algeria. Of course, Eldridge Cleaver has come back, but
he's a totally different man.
Cleaver skipped the country and lived in exile for years, eventually tiring
of finding that North Africans and camel jocks don't like niggers either.
Eventually he enounced his militancy and returned to the U.S. to face
justice, got off easy and lived in obscurity in L.A. until his death in
1998.
That class in Tuskegee was, in a
way, the most painful moment of my life, because I felt that they
didn't give a damn about all I'd worked so hard for.
Nor do former BLACK Civil Rights leaders get any respect: "Eckford said last
spring that young children have no concept of segregation and that they have
trouble understanding the depth of the acrimony when Little Rock schools
were first integrated." KUDOS! You got that right, sistah. About the only
Americans of African ancestry that non-black folks can comfortably be around
these days are the ones who are old enough to remember what things were like
BEFORE the 1964 Civil Rights act. About 95% of the blacks under the age of
35 that I meet today are used to having "Whitey" grovel at their fucking
feet while they howl their you-owe-me-something-white-boy,
I-ain't-working-like-no-slave *****. Now here are all these former
"activists" from the flower-power era whose own sprogs have absolutely no
idea of what it was like to live with Jim Crow- and "sundown" laws. About
20 years ago there was an old, white-haired black security guard where I
worked, and he was more than a little disgusted with today's black
Americans. Once he told us about how he and his teen-age great-grandson
were watching a documentary on Martin Luther King, and when the footage of
the demonstrators being fire-hosed and mauled by police dogs was trotted
out, the kid bragged, "Man, dey wuddn'a done dat ***** to ME!" Great-grandpa
replied, "No, boy, they'd have just blown your fool head off."
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Today: January 02, 2003 at 10:00:22 PST
Civil Rights Figure's Son Killed in Ark.
ASSOCIATED PRESS
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) - An officer fatally shot the son of one of the
Little Rock Nine, the group of blacks who integrated the city's schools in
1957, police said.
Police said they were called after neighbors saw Erin Eckford, 26, firing an
assault rifle into the air Wednesday night.
Eckford was asked to put the weapon down, and when he did not, officers
fired a bean bag round at him, to no avail, police Sgt. Terry Hastings said.
Eckford then began firing the assault rifle again, and police shot back,
firing seven to 10 rounds and hitting him six times, Hastings said.
Eckford died at a nearby hospital.
The three officers involved were placed on administrative leave with pay,
the normal procedure, pending a police investigation of the shooting.
Eckford, a student at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock, was the son
of Elizabeth Eckford. She was among the students who broke the color barrier
at Little Rock Central High School in 1957.
Elizabeth Eckford declined to comment, a family friend said. Her son had a
short criminal history with a marijuana charge in 1997 and a firearm
possession charge in 2000.
A neighbor, LaWanda McKinnie, said she saw Eckford carrying a rifle while
her son and friends were playing basketball. She said she asked a passing
man with a cell phone to call police.
"I feel like it's all my fault," she said. "He eventually would have gone
back into his house. But I didn't want him to shoot that gun with all the
kids outside."
Elizabeth Eckford, 60, spent 23 years away from Arkansas, but returned to
Little Rock several years ago. She earned a history degree from Central
State College in Wilberforce, Ohio, and had a career in the Army as a
military journalist. She also worked as a bank clerk and a social studies
teacher. She has worked part time in Little Rock as a social worker, and has
spent time speaking to school children.
Eckford said last spring that young children have no concept of segregation
and that they have trouble understanding the depth of the acrimony when
Little Rock schools were first integrated.
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| User: "Xander Cage" |
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| Title: Re: Ungrateful black kids hassle white civil rights activist |
31 Aug 2003 10:18:13 AM |
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On 30 Aug 2003, yet another 2-Digit IQ racist Byker,byker@do~rag.net was
thinking out loud in the newsgroup soc.culture.african.american and this
happened to drip out of his *****:
TNB BIG TIME. The niggers want it ALL, they want it NOW, and don't give a
***** how they get it, just as long as they don't have to work for it.
That statement is as simplistic and juvenile as any of your more poignant
rants. If I were to replace the invective "*****" with "dot-com
entrepreneurs," that statement would apply to a whole lot of white people.
<snip>
--
Be you live or dead I'll grind your bones
to make my bread.
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| User: "Me" |
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| Title: Re: Ungrateful black kids hassle white civil rights activist |
30 Aug 2003 11:48:55 PM |
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There are alot of black people that would find this very disturbing at the
very least. They would be disgraced by this. Groups you can blame for this
are the NOI, NBPP, and the KKK. Three terrorist groups in this country that
need to be dismantled.
"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message
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"WhiteLiberal" <no.spam@no.spam> wrote in message
news:3F510550.46FDC581@no.spam...
Virginia Durr is a famous as a white activist who fought for most
of her life for equal civil rights and fair treatment of black people.
For this cause she endured threats and social ostracism. Her children
were harassed in school.
She and her husband were the ones who bailed Rosa Parks out of jail
in Montgomery, Alabama and supported the year-long bus boycott.
In fact she was one of the key white people who helped bring about
desegregation in the South and better opportunities for blacks.
However, not all of them seem to know this, or even care.
Here's what happened when Ms. Durr visited a sociology class
full of black kids at Tuskegee Institute (from Chapter 22 of her
autobiography, _Outside the Magic Circle_):
---------------------------------------------------------------
As I began, I could feel a sense of hostility in the room, a sense
of coldness, nonresponse, but I began anyway. I said, "I don't
want to bore you young people with a two-hour seminar by telling
you the things that you already know. I'd like to know how many
people here have read and know about the case of _Gomillion v.
Lightfoot_." Not one of them had ever read the case or ever heard
of the book about that case. "My goodness, that's too bad because
this is about Macon County and it's about the long struggle for
the right to vote that Dr. Gomillion led." No response at all.
"Have you ever read DuBois's book, _The Souls of Black Folks_?
I think that is also one of the great classics that everybody should
read." Nobody'd ever heard of it. "Have you read Dr. Horace Mann
Bond's book, _Negro Education in Alabama_ which I also consider
one of the great classics of Alabama history?" Nobody'd ever heard
of that.
A young girl was sitting right behind me and all of a sudden she
said, "You old lady, we don't want to hear you anyway. You just
coming down here to take us down. 'Have we read this? Have we read
that?' You just coming here to take us down. We know what kind of
folks you are. We don't want to hear you." With that the whole
class joined in: "No, we don't want to hear no white folks." I was
shocked beyond words. I had never been treated that way in my life
by black or white, with just open, insulting repudiation. There
was a girl in the back of the classroom who was flapping a book.
She had gotten a great big book and she kept flapping the pages.
I said, "I really can't say anything until the young lady over there
stops making so much noise."
"I'll make all the noise I want to. I don't want to hear no white
folks anyway."
TNB.
Finally I said, "Now look, there are twenty-three people here.
Each one of you has made it perfectly plain to me that you don't
care one single thing about what I have to say... but I am very
eager to hear what you have to say. If you don't think we came to
talk about the right to vote..."
"That don't mean nothing!"
I asked, "Well, what does mean something? Mainly, I want to know
why all of you hate me so much. You've never seen me before. You
don't know anything about me. You're just expressing all this
hatred for me because I'm white, which I can't help but be. Why do
you hate me so much?"
I took each in turn and they told me why they hated white people.
One of them was a veteran and something had happened to him in
Vietnam and he hated white folks. The twenty-three black kids who
were sitting there each told me in detail why they hated white
folks. This took quite a white because they were extremely
articulate about why they hated white folks.
I said, "you don't believe that politics is going to do you any
good?" No. they said the big shots, the black leaders, in Tuskegee
were just as bad as white folks any day. The black mayor and the
black sheriff and the black people who'd been elected were no
better than the whites before them.
Probably because they "acted White."
"What about Greene County?" I asked.
"They're a bunch of crooks, too. They're no good."
"You don't believe that politics is going to help your position at
all?"
"No, not at all."
"Do any of you vote? Have you been registered?" None of them had
even registered.
So much for Bush "stealing" the election.
"Do you think that the law, the federal courts, have helped you
any?"
"They don't amount to nothing either."
"Well, then you tell me what you think the solution is." And they
gave me their solution -- and this was unanimous.
"Eldridge Cleaver's coming back and we're going to take it away
from the white folks. We're going to take what they got. We want
what the white folks have got."
TNB BIG TIME. The niggers want it ALL, they want it NOW, and don't give a
***** how they get it, just as long as they don't have to work for it.
"In other words, you see the solution as economic?"
"We want what the white folks got."
The meeting ended on that note. They didn't give a damn about
politics or about the right to vote or the right to sit down in a
bus. It was like the time I asked young Donny, who worked for me
on Saturdays, "Haven't you ever heard about the big struggle for
desegregation of the buses?"
"Huh, Mrs, Durr, you wants to ride on a _bus_? I want a car of my
own."
A Welfare Cadillac, no doubt.
They have absolutely no trust or faith in law or politics. They
want a car. They want a good house. They want a job. They want
opportunity to rise in the world. Eldridge Cleaver was coming back
and he was going to have a revolution. Cleaver had married a girl
from Tuskegee whose father was on the faculty and at that time he
was in Algeria. Of course, Eldridge Cleaver has come back, but
he's a totally different man.
Cleaver skipped the country and lived in exile for years, eventually
tiring
of finding that North Africans and camel jocks don't like niggers either.
Eventually he enounced his militancy and returned to the U.S. to face
justice, got off easy and lived in obscurity in L.A. until his death in
1998.
That class in Tuskegee was, in a
way, the most painful moment of my life, because I felt that they
didn't give a damn about all I'd worked so hard for.
Nor do former BLACK Civil Rights leaders get any respect: "Eckford said
last
spring that young children have no concept of segregation and that they
have
trouble understanding the depth of the acrimony when Little Rock schools
were first integrated." KUDOS! You got that right, sistah. About the
only
Americans of African ancestry that non-black folks can comfortably be
around
these days are the ones who are old enough to remember what things were
like
BEFORE the 1964 Civil Rights act. About 95% of the blacks under the age
of
35 that I meet today are used to having "Whitey" grovel at their fucking
feet while they howl their you-owe-me-something-white-boy,
I-ain't-working-like-no-slave *****. Now here are all these former
"activists" from the flower-power era whose own sprogs have absolutely no
idea of what it was like to live with Jim Crow- and "sundown" laws. About
20 years ago there was an old, white-haired black security guard where I
worked, and he was more than a little disgusted with today's black
Americans. Once he told us about how he and his teen-age great-grandson
were watching a documentary on Martin Luther King, and when the footage of
the demonstrators being fire-hosed and mauled by police dogs was trotted
out, the kid bragged, "Man, dey wuddn'a done dat ***** to ME!"
Great-grandpa
replied, "No, boy, they'd have just blown your fool head off."
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Today: January 02, 2003 at 10:00:22 PST
Civil Rights Figure's Son Killed in Ark.
ASSOCIATED PRESS
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) - An officer fatally shot the son of one of the
Little Rock Nine, the group of blacks who integrated the city's schools in
1957, police said.
Police said they were called after neighbors saw Erin Eckford, 26, firing
an
assault rifle into the air Wednesday night.
Eckford was asked to put the weapon down, and when he did not, officers
fired a bean bag round at him, to no avail, police Sgt. Terry Hastings
said.
Eckford then began firing the assault rifle again, and police shot back,
firing seven to 10 rounds and hitting him six times, Hastings said.
Eckford died at a nearby hospital.
The three officers involved were placed on administrative leave with pay,
the normal procedure, pending a police investigation of the shooting.
Eckford, a student at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock, was the
son
of Elizabeth Eckford. She was among the students who broke the color
barrier
at Little Rock Central High School in 1957.
Elizabeth Eckford declined to comment, a family friend said. Her son had a
short criminal history with a marijuana charge in 1997 and a firearm
possession charge in 2000.
A neighbor, LaWanda McKinnie, said she saw Eckford carrying a rifle while
her son and friends were playing basketball. She said she asked a passing
man with a cell phone to call police.
"I feel like it's all my fault," she said. "He eventually would have gone
back into his house. But I didn't want him to shoot that gun with all the
kids outside."
Elizabeth Eckford, 60, spent 23 years away from Arkansas, but returned to
Little Rock several years ago. She earned a history degree from Central
State College in Wilberforce, Ohio, and had a career in the Army as a
military journalist. She also worked as a bank clerk and a social studies
teacher. She has worked part time in Little Rock as a social worker, and
has
spent time speaking to school children.
Eckford said last spring that young children have no concept of
segregation
and that they have trouble understanding the depth of the acrimony when
Little Rock schools were first integrated.
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| User: "BroJack" |
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| Title: Re: Ungrateful black kids hassle white civil rights activist |
31 Aug 2003 05:50:23 AM |
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:48:55 GMT, "Me" <me@me.com> wrote:
There are alot of black people that would find this very disturbing at the
very least. They would be disgraced by this. Groups you can blame for this
are the NOI, NBPP, and the KKK. Three terrorist groups in this country that
need to be dismantled.
Don't forget the NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, Rainbow Coalition,
EEOC, and Civil Rights' Commission which keep blacks onthe victim
plantation.
BroJack
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| User: "Rally" |
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| Title: Re: Ungrateful black kids hassle white civil rights activist |
31 Aug 2003 09:08:17 AM |
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"BroJack" <brojack@windswept.org> wrote in message
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| On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:48:55 GMT, "Me" <me@me.com> wrote:
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| >There are alot of black people that would find this very disturbing at
the
| >very least. They would be disgraced by this. Groups you can blame for
this
| >are the NOI, NBPP, and the KKK. Three terrorist groups in this country
that
| >need to be dismantled.
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| Don't forget the NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, Rainbow Coalition,
| EEOC, and Civil Rights' Commission which keep blacks onthe victim
| plantation.
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| BroJack
One can equate the black organizations you listed as the "House
Negroes", and the general negro populace as the "Field Negroes".
Those House Negroes want to stay in the house.
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| User: "B9 B9" |
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| Title: Re: Ungrateful black kids hassle white civil rights activist |
31 Aug 2003 09:33:40 AM |
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Are you still drinking rally ? You better put the shine down and go to bed.
Rally wrote:
"BroJack" <brojack@windswept.org> wrote in message
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| On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:48:55 GMT, "Me" <me@me.com> wrote:
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| >There are alot of black people that would find this very disturbing at
the
| >very least. They would be disgraced by this. Groups you can blame for
this
| >are the NOI, NBPP, and the KKK. Three terrorist groups in this country
that
| >need to be dismantled.
|
| Don't forget the NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, Rainbow Coalition,
| EEOC, and Civil Rights' Commission which keep blacks onthe victim
| plantation.
|
| BroJack
One can equate the black organizations you listed as the "House
Negroes", and the general negro populace as the "Field Negroes".
Those House Negroes want to stay in the house.
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| User: "James Crow Esq." |
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| Title: Re: Ungrateful black kids hassle white civil rights activist |
01 Sep 2003 10:00:06 AM |
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Damn these ***** forgeries sure pile up quick.
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:33:40 -0400, B9 <"B9 KKK"@afn.org> wrote:
Are you still drinking rally ? You better put the shine down and go to bed.
Rally wrote:
"BroJack" <brojack@windswept.org> wrote in message
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| On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:48:55 GMT, "Me" <me@me.com> wrote:
|
| >There are alot of black people that would find this very disturbing at
the
| >very least. They would be disgraced by this. Groups you can blame for
this
| >are the NOI, NBPP, and the KKK. Three terrorist groups in this country
that
| >need to be dismantled.
|
| Don't forget the NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, Rainbow Coalition,
| EEOC, and Civil Rights' Commission which keep blacks onthe victim
| plantation.
|
| BroJack
One can equate the black organizations you listed as the "House
Negroes", and the general negro populace as the "Field Negroes".
Those House Negroes want to stay in the house.
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At the end of a long day I like to relax. Kick back
on the veranda with a ice cold mint julip, watch a
***** swing from a branch and feel that cool evening
breeze.
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| User: "Me" |
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| Title: Re: Ungrateful black kids hassle white civil rights activist |
31 Aug 2003 02:44:54 PM |
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Forgot all about them.
"BroJack" <brojack@windswept.org> wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:48:55 GMT, "Me" <me@me.com> wrote:
There are alot of black people that would find this very disturbing at
the
very least. They would be disgraced by this. Groups you can blame for
this
are the NOI, NBPP, and the KKK. Three terrorist groups in this country
that
need to be dismantled.
Don't forget the NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, Rainbow Coalition,
EEOC, and Civil Rights' Commission which keep blacks onthe victim
plantation.
BroJack
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| User: "James Crow Esq." |
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| Title: Re: Ungrateful black kids hassle white civil rights activist |
31 Aug 2003 10:25:13 AM |
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:48:55 GMT, "Me" <me@me.com> wrote:
There are alot of black people that would find this very disturbing at the
very least. They would be disgraced by this. Groups you can blame for this
are the NOI, NBPP, and the KKK. Three terrorist groups in this country that
need to be dismantled.
How did the KKK get in there. Buwahahahahahahaha, U R an Idiot.
"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message
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"WhiteLiberal" <no.spam@no.spam> wrote in message
news:3F510550.46FDC581@no.spam...
Virginia Durr is a famous as a white activist who fought for most
of her life for equal civil rights and fair treatment of black people.
For this cause she endured threats and social ostracism. Her children
were harassed in school.
She and her husband were the ones who bailed Rosa Parks out of jail
in Montgomery, Alabama and supported the year-long bus boycott.
In fact she was one of the key white people who helped bring about
desegregation in the South and better opportunities for blacks.
However, not all of them seem to know this, or even care.
Here's what happened when Ms. Durr visited a sociology class
full of black kids at Tuskegee Institute (from Chapter 22 of her
autobiography, _Outside the Magic Circle_):
---------------------------------------------------------------
As I began, I could feel a sense of hostility in the room, a sense
of coldness, nonresponse, but I began anyway. I said, "I don't
want to bore you young people with a two-hour seminar by telling
you the things that you already know. I'd like to know how many
people here have read and know about the case of _Gomillion v.
Lightfoot_." Not one of them had ever read the case or ever heard
of the book about that case. "My goodness, that's too bad because
this is about Macon County and it's about the long struggle for
the right to vote that Dr. Gomillion led." No response at all.
"Have you ever read DuBois's book, _The Souls of Black Folks_?
I think that is also one of the great classics that everybody should
read." Nobody'd ever heard of it. "Have you read Dr. Horace Mann
Bond's book, _Negro Education in Alabama_ which I also consider
one of the great classics of Alabama history?" Nobody'd ever heard
of that.
A young girl was sitting right behind me and all of a sudden she
said, "You old lady, we don't want to hear you anyway. You just
coming down here to take us down. 'Have we read this? Have we read
that?' You just coming here to take us down. We know what kind of
folks you are. We don't want to hear you." With that the whole
class joined in: "No, we don't want to hear no white folks." I was
shocked beyond words. I had never been treated that way in my life
by black or white, with just open, insulting repudiation. There
was a girl in the back of the classroom who was flapping a book.
She had gotten a great big book and she kept flapping the pages.
I said, "I really can't say anything until the young lady over there
stops making so much noise."
"I'll make all the noise I want to. I don't want to hear no white
folks anyway."
TNB.
Finally I said, "Now look, there are twenty-three people here.
Each one of you has made it perfectly plain to me that you don't
care one single thing about what I have to say... but I am very
eager to hear what you have to say. If you don't think we came to
talk about the right to vote..."
"That don't mean nothing!"
I asked, "Well, what does mean something? Mainly, I want to know
why all of you hate me so much. You've never seen me before. You
don't know anything about me. You're just expressing all this
hatred for me because I'm white, which I can't help but be. Why do
you hate me so much?"
I took each in turn and they told me why they hated white people.
One of them was a veteran and something had happened to him in
Vietnam and he hated white folks. The twenty-three black kids who
were sitting there each told me in detail why they hated white
folks. This took quite a white because they were extremely
articulate about why they hated white folks.
I said, "you don't believe that politics is going to do you any
good?" No. they said the big shots, the black leaders, in Tuskegee
were just as bad as white folks any day. The black mayor and the
black sheriff and the black people who'd been elected were no
better than the whites before them.
Probably because they "acted White."
"What about Greene County?" I asked.
"They're a bunch of crooks, too. They're no good."
"You don't believe that politics is going to help your position at
all?"
"No, not at all."
"Do any of you vote? Have you been registered?" None of them had
even registered.
So much for Bush "stealing" the election.
"Do you think that the law, the federal courts, have helped you
any?"
"They don't amount to nothing either."
"Well, then you tell me what you think the solution is." And they
gave me their solution -- and this was unanimous.
"Eldridge Cleaver's coming back and we're going to take it away
from the white folks. We're going to take what they got. We want
what the white folks have got."
TNB BIG TIME. The niggers want it ALL, they want it NOW, and don't give a
***** how they get it, just as long as they don't have to work for it.
"In other words, you see the solution as economic?"
"We want what the white folks got."
The meeting ended on that note. They didn't give a damn about
politics or about the right to vote or the right to sit down in a
bus. It was like the time I asked young Donny, who worked for me
on Saturdays, "Haven't you ever heard about the big struggle for
desegregation of the buses?"
"Huh, Mrs, Durr, you wants to ride on a _bus_? I want a car of my
own."
A Welfare Cadillac, no doubt.
They have absolutely no trust or faith in law or politics. They
want a car. They want a good house. They want a job. They want
opportunity to rise in the world. Eldridge Cleaver was coming back
and he was going to have a revolution. Cleaver had married a girl
from Tuskegee whose father was on the faculty and at that time he
was in Algeria. Of course, Eldridge Cleaver has come back, but
he's a totally different man.
Cleaver skipped the country and lived in exile for years, eventually
tiring
of finding that North Africans and camel jocks don't like niggers either.
Eventually he enounced his militancy and returned to the U.S. to face
justice, got off easy and lived in obscurity in L.A. until his death in
1998.
That class in Tuskegee was, in a
way, the most painful moment of my life, because I felt that they
didn't give a damn about all I'd worked so hard for.
Nor do former BLACK Civil Rights leaders get any respect: "Eckford said
last
spring that young children have no concept of segregation and that they
have
trouble understanding the depth of the acrimony when Little Rock schools
were first integrated." KUDOS! You got that right, sistah. About the
only
Americans of African ancestry that non-black folks can comfortably be
around
these days are the ones who are old enough to remember what things were
like
BEFORE the 1964 Civil Rights act. About 95% of the blacks under the age
of
35 that I meet today are used to having "Whitey" grovel at their fucking
feet while they howl their you-owe-me-something-white-boy,
I-ain't-working-like-no-slave *****. Now here are all these former
"activists" from the flower-power era whose own sprogs have absolutely no
idea of what it was like to live with Jim Crow- and "sundown" laws. About
20 years ago there was an old, white-haired black security guard where I
worked, and he was more than a little disgusted with today's black
Americans. Once he told us about how he and his teen-age great-grandson
were watching a documentary on Martin Luther King, and when the footage of
the demonstrators being fire-hosed and mauled by police dogs was trotted
out, the kid bragged, "Man, dey wuddn'a done dat ***** to ME!"
Great-grandpa
replied, "No, boy, they'd have just blown your fool head off."
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Today: January 02, 2003 at 10:00:22 PST
Civil Rights Figure's Son Killed in Ark.
ASSOCIATED PRESS
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) - An officer fatally shot the son of one of the
Little Rock Nine, the group of blacks who integrated the city's schools in
1957, police said.
Police said they were called after neighbors saw Erin Eckford, 26, firing
an
assault rifle into the air Wednesday night.
Eckford was asked to put the weapon down, and when he did not, officers
fired a bean bag round at him, to no avail, police Sgt. Terry Hastings
said.
Eckford then began firing the assault rifle again, and police shot back,
firing seven to 10 rounds and hitting him six times, Hastings said.
Eckford died at a nearby hospital.
The three officers involved were placed on administrative leave with pay,
the normal procedure, pending a police investigation of the shooting.
Eckford, a student at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock, was the
son
of Elizabeth Eckford. She was among the students who broke the color
barrier
at Little Rock Central High School in 1957.
Elizabeth Eckford declined to comment, a family friend said. Her son had a
short criminal history with a marijuana charge in 1997 and a firearm
possession charge in 2000.
A neighbor, LaWanda McKinnie, said she saw Eckford carrying a rifle while
her son and friends were playing basketball. She said she asked a passing
man with a cell phone to call police.
"I feel like it's all my fault," she said. "He eventually would have gone
back into his house. But I didn't want him to shoot that gun with all the
kids outside."
Elizabeth Eckford, 60, spent 23 years away from Arkansas, but returned to
Little Rock several years ago. She earned a history degree from Central
State College in Wilberforce, Ohio, and had a career in the Army as a
military journalist. She also worked as a bank clerk and a social studies
teacher. She has worked part time in Little Rock as a social worker, and
has
spent time speaking to school children.
Eckford said last spring that young children have no concept of
segregation
and that they have trouble understanding the depth of the acrimony when
Little Rock schools were first integrated.
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Because the fucking KKK and any other white supremacist group are *****. They
are just as much to blame for these problems.
The idiot is you for not knowing why they are listed in there.
"James Crow Esq." <utahraptor88@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:48:55 GMT, "Me" <me@me.com> wrote:
There are alot of black people that would find this very disturbing at
the
very least. They would be disgraced by this. Groups you can blame for
this
are the NOI, NBPP, and the KKK. Three terrorist groups in this country
that
need to be dismantled.
How did the KKK get in there. Buwahahahahahahaha, U R an Idiot.
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Virginia Durr is a famous as a white activist who fought for most
of her life for equal civil rights and fair treatment of black
people.
For this cause she endured threats and social ostracism. Her children
were harassed in school.
She and her husband were the ones who bailed Rosa Parks out of jail
in Montgomery, Alabama and supported the year-long bus boycott.
In fact she was one of the key white people who helped bring about
desegregation in the South and better opportunities for blacks.
However, not all of them seem to know this, or even care.
Here's what happened when Ms. Durr visited a sociology class
full of black kids at Tuskegee Institute (from Chapter 22 of her
autobiography, _Outside the Magic Circle_):
---------------------------------------------------------------
As I began, I could feel a sense of hostility in the room, a sense
of coldness, nonresponse, but I began anyway. I said, "I don't
want to bore you young people with a two-hour seminar by telling
you the things that you already know. I'd like to know how many
people here have read and know about the case of _Gomillion v.
Lightfoot_." Not one of them had ever read the case or ever heard
of the book about that case. "My goodness, that's too bad because
this is about Macon County and it's about the long struggle for
the right to vote that Dr. Gomillion led." No response at all.
"Have you ever read DuBois's book, _The Souls of Black Folks_?
I think that is also one of the great classics that everybody should
read." Nobody'd ever heard of it. "Have you read Dr. Horace Mann
Bond's book, _Negro Education in Alabama_ which I also consider
one of the great classics of Alabama history?" Nobody'd ever heard
of that.
A young girl was sitting right behind me and all of a sudden she
said, "You old lady, we don't want to hear you anyway. You just
coming down here to take us down. 'Have we read this? Have we read
that?' You just coming here to take us down. We know what kind of
folks you are. We don't want to hear you." With that the whole
class joined in: "No, we don't want to hear no white folks." I was
shocked beyond words. I had never been treated that way in my life
by black or white, with just open, insulting repudiation. There
was a girl in the back of the classroom who was flapping a book.
She had gotten a great big book and she kept flapping the pages.
I said, "I really can't say anything until the young lady over there
stops making so much noise."
"I'll make all the noise I want to. I don't want to hear no white
folks anyway."
TNB.
Finally I said, "Now look, there are twenty-three people here.
Each one of you has made it perfectly plain to me that you don't
care one single thing about what I have to say... but I am very
eager to hear what you have to say. If you don't think we came to
talk about the right to vote..."
"That don't mean nothing!"
I asked, "Well, what does mean something? Mainly, I want to know
why all of you hate me so much. You've never seen me before. You
don't know anything about me. You're just expressing all this
hatred for me because I'm white, which I can't help but be. Why do
you hate me so much?"
I took each in turn and they told me why they hated white people.
One of them was a veteran and something had happened to him in
Vietnam and he hated white folks. The twenty-three black kids who
were sitting there each told me in detail why they hated white
folks. This took quite a white because they were extremely
articulate about why they hated white folks.
I said, "you don't believe that politics is going to do you any
good?" No. they said the big shots, the black leaders, in Tuskegee
were just as bad as white folks any day. The black mayor and the
black sheriff and the black people who'd been elected were no
better than the whites before them.
Probably because they "acted White."
"What about Greene County?" I asked.
"They're a bunch of crooks, too. They're no good."
"You don't believe that politics is going to help your position at
all?"
"No, not at all."
"Do any of you vote? Have you been registered?" None of them had
even registered.
So much for Bush "stealing" the election.
"Do you think that the law, the federal courts, have helped you
any?"
"They don't amount to nothing either."
"Well, then you tell me what you think the solution is." And they
gave me their solution -- and this was unanimous.
"Eldridge Cleaver's coming back and we're going to take it away
from the white folks. We're going to take what they got. We want
what the white folks have got."
TNB BIG TIME. The niggers want it ALL, they want it NOW, and don't
give a
***** how they get it, just as long as they don't have to work for it.
"In other words, you see the solution as economic?"
"We want what the white folks got."
The meeting ended on that note. They didn't give a damn about
politics or about the right to vote or the right to sit down in a
bus. It was like the time I asked young Donny, who worked for me
on Saturdays, "Haven't you ever heard about the big struggle for
desegregation of the buses?"
"Huh, Mrs, Durr, you wants to ride on a _bus_? I want a car of my
own."
A Welfare Cadillac, no doubt.
They have absolutely no trust or faith in law or politics. They
want a car. They want a good house. They want a job. They want
opportunity to rise in the world. Eldridge Cleaver was coming back
and he was going to have a revolution. Cleaver had married a girl
from Tuskegee whose father was on the faculty and at that time he
was in Algeria. Of course, Eldridge Cleaver has come back, but
he's a totally different man.
Cleaver skipped the country and lived in exile for years, eventually
tiring
of finding that North Africans and camel jocks don't like niggers
either.
Eventually he enounced his militancy and returned to the U.S. to face
justice, got off easy and lived in obscurity in L.A. until his death in
1998.
That class in Tuskegee was, in a
way, the most painful moment of my life, because I felt that they
didn't give a damn about all I'd worked so hard for.
Nor do former BLACK Civil Rights leaders get any respect: "Eckford said
last
spring that young children have no concept of segregation and that they
have
trouble understanding the depth of the acrimony when Little Rock
schools
were first integrated." KUDOS! You got that right, sistah. About the
only
Americans of African ancestry that non-black folks can comfortably be
around
these days are the ones who are old enough to remember what things were
like
BEFORE the 1964 Civil Rights act. About 95% of the blacks under the
age
of
35 that I meet today are used to having "Whitey" grovel at their
fucking
feet while they howl their you-owe-me-something-white-boy,
I-ain't-working-like-no-slave *****. Now here are all these former
"activists" from the flower-power era whose own sprogs have absolutely
no
idea of what it was like to live with Jim Crow- and "sundown" laws.
About
20 years ago there was an old, white-haired black security guard where
I
worked, and he was more than a little disgusted with today's black
Americans. Once he told us about how he and his teen-age
great-grandson
were watching a documentary on Martin Luther King, and when the footage
of
the demonstrators being fire-hosed and mauled by police dogs was
trotted
out, the kid bragged, "Man, dey wuddn'a done dat ***** to ME!"
Great-grandpa
replied, "No, boy, they'd have just blown your fool head off."
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Today: January 02, 2003 at 10:00:22 PST
Civil Rights Figure's Son Killed in Ark.
ASSOCIATED PRESS
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) - An officer fatally shot the son of one of the
Little Rock Nine, the group of blacks who integrated the city's schools
in
1957, police said.
Police said they were called after neighbors saw Erin Eckford, 26,
firing
an
assault rifle into the air Wednesday night.
Eckford was asked to put the weapon down, and when he did not, officers
fired a bean bag round at him, to no avail, police Sgt. Terry Hastings
said.
Eckford then began firing the assault rifle again, and police shot
back,
firing seven to 10 rounds and hitting him six times, Hastings said.
Eckford died at a nearby hospital.
The three officers involved were placed on administrative leave with
pay,
the normal procedure, pending a police investigation of the shooting.
Eckford, a student at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock, was
the
son
of Elizabeth Eckford. She was among the students who broke the color
barrier
at Little Rock Central High School in 1957.
Elizabeth Eckford declined to comment, a family friend said. Her son
had a
short criminal history with a marijuana charge in 1997 and a firearm
possession charge in 2000.
A neighbor, LaWanda McKinnie, said she saw Eckford carrying a rifle
while
her son and friends were playing basketball. She said she asked a
passing
man with a cell phone to call police.
"I feel like it's all my fault," she said. "He eventually would have
gone
back into his house. But I didn't want him to shoot that gun with all
the
kids outside."
Elizabeth Eckford, 60, spent 23 years away from Arkansas, but returned
to
Little Rock several years ago. She earned a history degree from Central
State College in Wilberforce, Ohio, and had a career in the Army as a
military journalist. She also worked as a bank clerk and a social
studies
teacher. She has worked part time in Little Rock as a social worker,
and
has
spent time speaking to school children.
Eckford said last spring that young children have no concept of
segregation
and that they have trouble understanding the depth of the acrimony when
Little Rock schools were first integrated.
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:46:41 GMT, "Me" <me@me.com> wrote:
Because the fucking KKK and any other white supremacist group are *****. They
are just as much to blame for these problems.
Oh paleze, how can you or any sane person remotely say the KKK is
responsible for niglets not wanting to get a white man's education,
crimes and out of wedlock birth rates. My dog is smarter that you if
you really believe that *****.
The idiot is you for not knowing why they are listed in there.
"James Crow Esq." <utahraptor88@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:48:55 GMT, "Me" <me@me.com> wrote:
There are alot of black people that would find this very disturbing at
the
very least. They would be disgraced by this. Groups you can blame for
this
are the NOI, NBPP, and the KKK. Three terrorist groups in this country
that
need to be dismantled.
How did the KKK get in there. Buwahahahahahahaha, U R an Idiot.
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Virginia Durr is a famous as a white activist who fought for most
of her life for equal civil rights and fair treatment of black
people.
For this cause she endured threats and social ostracism. Her children
were harassed in school.
She and her husband were the ones who bailed Rosa Parks out of jail
in Montgomery, Alabama and supported the year-long bus boycott.
In fact she was one of the key white people who helped bring about
desegregation in the South and better opportunities for blacks.
However, not all of them seem to know this, or even care.
Here's what happened when Ms. Durr visited a sociology class
full of black kids at Tuskegee Institute (from Chapter 22 of her
autobiography, _Outside the Magic Circle_):
---------------------------------------------------------------
As I began, I could feel a sense of hostility in the room, a sense
of coldness, nonresponse, but I began anyway. I said, "I don't
want to bore you young people with a two-hour seminar by telling
you the things that you already know. I'd like to know how many
people here have read and know about the case of _Gomillion v.
Lightfoot_." Not one of them had ever read the case or ever heard
of the book about that case. "My goodness, that's too bad because
this is about Macon County and it's about the long struggle for
the right to vote that Dr. Gomillion led." No response at all.
"Have you ever read DuBois's book, _The Souls of Black Folks_?
I think that is also one of the great classics that everybody should
read." Nobody'd ever heard of it. "Have you read Dr. Horace Mann
Bond's book, _Negro Education in Alabama_ which I also consider
one of the great classics of Alabama history?" Nobody'd ever heard
of that.
A young girl was sitting right behind me and all of a sudden she
said, "You old lady, we don't want to hear you anyway. You just
coming down here to take us down. 'Have we read this? Have we read
that?' You just coming here to take us down. We know what kind of
folks you are. We don't want to hear you." With that the whole
class joined in: "No, we don't want to hear no white folks." I was
shocked beyond words. I had never been treated that way in my life
by black or white, with just open, insulting repudiation. There
was a girl in the back of the classroom who was flapping a book.
She had gotten a great big book and she kept flapping the pages.
I said, "I really can't say anything until the young lady over there
stops making so much noise."
"I'll make all the noise I want to. I don't want to hear no white
folks anyway."
TNB.
Finally I said, "Now look, there are twenty-three people here.
Each one of you has made it perfectly plain to me that you don't
care one single thing about what I have to say... but I am very
eager to hear what you have to say. If you don't think we came to
talk about the right to vote..."
"That don't mean nothing!"
I asked, "Well, what does mean something? Mainly, I want to know
why all of you hate me so much. You've never seen me before. You
don't know anything about me. You're just expressing all this
hatred for me because I'm white, which I can't help but be. Why do
you hate me so much?"
I took each in turn and they told me why they hated white people.
One of them was a veteran and something had happened to him in
Vietnam and he hated white folks. The twenty-three black kids who
were sitting there each told me in detail why they hated white
folks. This took quite a white because they were extremely
articulate about why they hated white folks.
I said, "you don't believe that politics is going to do you any
good?" No. they said the big shots, the black leaders, in Tuskegee
were just as bad as white folks any day. The black mayor and the
black sheriff and the black people who'd been elected were no
better than the whites before them.
Probably because they "acted White."
"What about Greene County?" I asked.
"They're a bunch of crooks, too. They're no good."
"You don't believe that politics is going to help your position at
all?"
"No, not at all."
"Do any of you vote? Have you been registered?" None of them had
even registered.
So much for Bush "stealing" the election.
"Do you think that the law, the federal courts, have helped you
any?"
"They don't amount to nothing either."
"Well, then you tell me what you think the solution is." And they
gave me their solution -- and this was unanimous.
"Eldridge Cleaver's coming back and we're going to take it away
from the white folks. We're going to take what they got. We want
what the white folks have got."
TNB BIG TIME. The niggers want it ALL, they want it NOW, and don't
give a
***** how they get it, just as long as they don't have to work for it.
"In other words, you see the solution as economic?"
"We want what the white folks got."
The meeting ended on that note. They didn't give a damn about
politics or about the right to vote or the right to sit down in a
bus. It was like the time I asked young Donny, who worked for me
on Saturdays, "Haven't you ever heard about the big struggle for
desegregation of the buses?"
"Huh, Mrs, Durr, you wants to ride on a _bus_? I want a car of my
own."
A Welfare Cadillac, no doubt.
They have absolutely no trust or faith in law or politics. They
want a car. They want a good house. They want a job. They want
opportunity to rise in the world. Eldridge Cleaver was coming back
and he was going to have a revolution. Cleaver had married a girl
from Tuskegee whose father was on the faculty and at that time he
was in Algeria. Of course, Eldridge Cleaver has come back, but
he's a totally different man.
Cleaver skipped the country and lived in exile for years, eventually
tiring
of finding that North Africans and camel jocks don't like niggers
either.
Eventually he enounced his militancy and returned to the U.S. to face
justice, got off easy and lived in obscurity in L.A. until his death in
1998.
That class in Tuskegee was, in a
way, the most painful moment of my life, because I felt that they
didn't give a damn about all I'd worked so hard for.
Nor do former BLACK Civil Rights leaders get any respect: "Eckford said
last
spring that young children have no concept of segregation and that they
have
trouble understanding the depth of the acrimony when Little Rock
schools
were first integrated." KUDOS! You got that right, sistah. About the
only
Americans of African ancestry that non-black folks can comfortably be
around
these days are the ones who are old enough to remember what things were
like
BEFORE the 1964 Civil Rights act. About 95% of the blacks under the
age
of
35 that I meet today are used to having "Whitey" grovel at their
fucking
feet while they howl their you-owe-me-something-white-boy,
I-ain't-working-like-no-slave *****. Now here are all these former
"activists" from the flower-power era whose own sprogs have absolutely
no
idea of what it was like to live with Jim Crow- and "sundown" laws.
About
20 years ago there was an old, white-haired black security guard where
I
worked, and he was more than a little disgusted with today's black
Americans. Once he told us about how he and his teen-age
great-grandson
were watching a documentary on Martin Luther King, and when the footage
of
the demonstrators being fire-hosed and mauled by police dogs was
trotted
out, the kid bragged, "Man, dey wuddn'a done dat ***** to ME!"
Great-grandpa
replied, "No, boy, they'd have just blown your fool head off."
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Today: January 02, 2003 at 10:00:22 PST
Civil Rights Figure's Son Killed in Ark.
ASSOCIATED PRESS
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) - An officer fatally shot the son of one of the
Little Rock Nine, the group of blacks who integrated the city's schools
in
1957, police said.
Police said they were called after neighbors saw Erin Eckford, 26,
firing
an
assault rifle into the air Wednesday night.
Eckford was asked to put the weapon down, and when he did not, officers
fired a bean bag round at him, to no avail, police Sgt. Terry Hastings
said.
Eckford then began firing the assault rifle again, and police shot
back,
firing seven to 10 rounds and hitting him six times, Hastings said.
Eckford died at a nearby hospital.
The three officers involved were placed on administrative leave with
pay,
the normal procedure, pending a police investigation of the shooting.
Eckford, a student at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock, was
the
son
of Elizabeth Eckford. She was among the students who broke the color
barrier
at Little Rock Central High School in 1957.
Elizabeth Eckford declined to comment, a family friend said. Her son
had a
short criminal history with a marijuana charge in 1997 and a firearm
possession charge in 2000.
A neighbor, LaWanda McKinnie, said she saw Eckford carrying a rifle
while
her son and friends were playing basketball. She said she asked a
passing
man with a cell phone to call police.
"I feel like it's all my fault," she said. "He eventually would have
gone
back into his house. But I didn't want him to shoot that gun with all
the
kids outside."
Elizabeth Eckford, 60, spent 23 years away from Arkansas, but returned
to
Little Rock several years ago. She earned a history degree from Central
State College in Wilberforce, Ohio, and had a career in the Army as a
military journalist. She also worked as a bank clerk and a social
studies
teacher. She has worked part time in Little Rock as a social worker,
and
has
spent time speaking to school children.
Eckford said last spring that young children have no concept of
segregation
and that they have trouble understanding the depth of the acrimony when
Little Rock schools were first integrated.
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How can any sane person say they are not. But looking at your preferred
name, you are hardly sane. WTF is a "white man's education." I sure hope you
don't think it is the way you are educated.
"James Crow Esq." <utahraptor88@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:46:41 GMT, "Me" <me@me.com> wrote:
Because the fucking KKK and any other white supremacist group are *****.
They
are just as much to blame for these problems.
Oh paleze, how can you or any sane person remotely say the KKK is
responsible for niglets not wanting to get a white man's education,
crimes and out of wedlock birth rates. My dog is smarter that you if
you really believe that *****.
The idiot is you for not knowing why they are listed in there.
"James Crow Esq." <utahraptor88@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:48:55 GMT, "Me" <me@me.com> wrote:
There are alot of black people that would find this very disturbing at
the
very least. They would be disgraced by this. Groups you can blame for
this
are the NOI, NBPP, and the KKK. Three terrorist groups in this
country
that
need to be dismantled.
How did the KKK get in there. Buwahahahahahahaha, U R an Idiot.
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Virginia Durr is a famous as a white activist who fought for most
of her life for equal civil rights and fair treatment of black
people.
For this cause she endured threats and social ostracism. Her
children
were harassed in school.
She and her husband were the ones who bailed Rosa Parks out of
jail
in Montgomery, Alabama and supported the year-long bus boycott.
In fact she was one of the key white people who helped bring about
desegregation in the South and better opportunities for blacks.
However, not all of them seem to know this, or even care.
Here's what happened when Ms. Durr visited a sociology class
full of black kids at Tuskegee Institute (from Chapter 22 of her
autobiography, _Outside the Magic Circle_):
---------------------------------------------------------------
As I began, I could feel a sense of hostility in the room, a sense
of coldness, nonresponse, but I began anyway. I said, "I don't
want to bore you young people with a two-hour seminar by telling
you the things that you already know. I'd like to know how many
people here have read and know about the case of _Gomillion v.
Lightfoot_." Not one of them had ever read the case or ever heard
of the book about that case. "My goodness, that's too bad because
this is about Macon County and it's about the long struggle for
the right to vote that Dr. Gomillion led." No response at all.
"Have you ever read DuBois's book, _The Souls of Black Folks_?
I think that is also one of the great classics that everybody
should
read." Nobody'd ever heard of it. "Have you read Dr. Horace Mann
Bond's book, _Negro Education in Alabama_ which I also consider
one of the great classics of Alabama history?" Nobody'd ever heard
of that.
A young girl was sitting right behind me and all of a sudden she
said, "You old lady, we don't want to hear you anyway. You just
coming down here to take us down. 'Have we read this? Have we read
that?' You just coming here to take us down. We know what kind of
folks you are. We don't want to hear you." With that the whole
class joined in: "No, we don't want to hear no white folks." I was
shocked beyond words. I had never been treated that way in my life
by black or white, with just open, insulting repudiation. There
was a girl in the back of the classroom who was flapping a book.
She had gotten a great big book and she kept flapping the pages.
I said, "I really can't say anything until the young lady over
there
stops making so much noise."
"I'll make all the noise I want to. I don't want to hear no white
folks anyway."
TNB.
Finally I said, "Now look, there are twenty-three people here.
Each one of you has made it perfectly plain to me that you don't
care one single thing about what I have to say... but I am very
eager to hear what you have to say. If you don't think we came to
talk about the right to vote..."
"That don't mean nothing!"
I asked, "Well, what does mean something? Mainly, I want to know
why all of you hate me so much. You've never seen me before. You
don't know anything about me. You're just expressing all this
hatred for me because I'm white, which I can't help but be. Why do
you hate me so much?"
I took each in turn and they told me why they hated white people.
One of them was a veteran and something had happened to him in
Vietnam and he hated white folks. The twenty-three black kids who
were sitting there each told me in detail why they hated white
folks. This took quite a white because they were extremely
articulate about why they hated white folks.
I said, "you don't believe that politics is going to do you any
good?" No. they said the big shots, the black leaders, in Tuskegee
were just as bad as white folks any day. The black mayor and the
black sheriff and the black people who'd been elected were no
better than the whites before them.
Probably because they "acted White."
"What about Greene County?" I asked.
"They're a bunch of crooks, too. They're no good."
"You don't believe that politics is going to help your position at
all?"
"No, not at all."
"Do any of you vote? Have you been registered?" None of them had
even registered.
So much for Bush "stealing" the election.
"Do you think that the law, the federal courts, have helped you
any?"
"They don't amount to nothing either."
"Well, then you tell me what you think the solution is." And they
gave me their solution -- and this was unanimous.
"Eldridge Cleaver's coming back and we're going to take it away
from the white folks. We're going to take what they got. We want
what the white folks have got."
TNB BIG TIME. The niggers want it ALL, they want it NOW, and don't
give a
***** how they get it, just as long as they don't have to work for
it.
"In other words, you see the solution as economic?"
"We want what the white folks got."
The meeting ended on that note. They didn't give a damn about
politics or about the right to vote or the right to sit down in a
bus. It was like the time I asked young Donny, who worked for me
on Saturdays, "Haven't you ever heard about the big struggle for
desegregation of the buses?"
"Huh, Mrs, Durr, you wants to ride on a _bus_? I want a car of my
own."
A Welfare Cadillac, no doubt.
They have absolutely no trust or faith in law or politics. They
want a car. They want a good house. They want a job. They want
opportunity to rise in the world. Eldridge Cleaver was coming back
and he was going to have a revolution. Cleaver had married a girl
from Tuskegee whose father was on the faculty and at that time he
was in Algeria. Of course, Eldridge Cleaver has come back, but
he's a totally different man.
Cleaver skipped the country and lived in exile for years, eventually
tiring
of finding that North Africans and camel jocks don't like niggers
either.
Eventually he enounced his militancy and returned to the U.S. to
face
justice, got off easy and lived in obscurity in L.A. until his death
in
1998.
That class in Tuskegee was, in a
way, the most painful moment of my life, because I felt that they
didn't give a damn about all I'd worked so hard for.
Nor do former BLACK Civil Rights leaders get any respect: "Eckford
said
last
spring that young children have no concept of segregation and that
they
have
trouble understanding the depth of the acrimony when Little Rock
schools
were first integrated." KUDOS! You got that right, sistah. About
the
only
Americans of African ancestry that non-black folks can comfortably
be
around
these days are the ones who are old enough to remember what things
were
like
BEFORE the 1964 Civil Rights act. About 95% of the blacks under the
age
of
35 that I meet today are used to having "Whitey" grovel at their
fucking
feet while they howl their you-owe-me-something-white-boy,
I-ain't-working-like-no-slave *****. Now here are all these
former
"activists" from the flower-power era whose own sprogs have
absolutely
no
idea of what it was like to live with Jim Crow- and "sundown" laws.
About
20 years ago there was an old, white-haired black security guard
where
I
worked, and he was more than a little disgusted with today's black
Americans. Once he told us about how he and his teen-age
great-grandson
were watching a documentary on Martin Luther King, and when the
footage
of
the demonstrators being fire-hosed and mauled by police dogs was
trotted
out, the kid bragged, "Man, dey wuddn'a done dat ***** to ME!"
Great-grandpa
replied, "No, boy, they'd have just blown your fool head off."
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Today: January 02, 2003 at 10:00:22 PST
Civil Rights Figure's Son Killed in Ark.
ASSOCIATED PRESS
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) - An officer fatally shot the son of one of
the
Little Rock Nine, the group of blacks who integrated the city's
schools
in
1957, police said.
Police said they were called after neighbors saw Erin Eckford, 26,
firing
an
assault rifle into the air Wednesday night.
Eckford was asked to put the weapon down, and when he did not,
officers
fired a bean bag round at him, to no avail, police Sgt. Terry
Hastings
said.
Eckford then began firing the assault rifle again, and police shot
back,
firing seven to 10 rounds and hitting him six times, Hastings said.
Eckford died at a nearby hospital.
The three officers involved were placed on administrative leave with
pay,
the normal procedure, pending a police investigation of the
shooting.
Eckford, a student at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock, was
the
son
of Elizabeth Eckford. She was among the students who broke the color
barrier
at Little Rock Central High School in 1957.
Elizabeth Eckford declined to comment, a family friend said. Her son
had a
short criminal history with a marijuana charge in 1997 and a firearm
possession charge in 2000.
A neighbor, LaWanda McKinnie, said she saw Eckford carrying a rifle
while
her son and friends were playing basketball. She said she asked a
passing
man with a cell phone to call police.
"I feel like it's all my fault," she said. "He eventually would have
gone
back into his house. But I didn't want him to shoot that gun with
all
the
kids outside."
Elizabeth Eckford, 60, spent 23 years away from Arkansas, but
returned
to
Little Rock several years ago. She earned a history degree from
Central
State College in Wilberforce, Ohio, and had a career in the Army as
a
military journalist. She also worked as a bank clerk and a social
studies
teacher. She has worked part time in Little Rock as a social worker,
and
has
spent time speaking to school children.
Eckford said last spring that young children have no concept of
segregation
and that they have trouble understanding the depth of the acrimony
when
Little Rock schools were first integrated.
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On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 17:57:14 GMT, "Me" <me@me.com> wrote:
How can any sane person say they are not. But looking at your preferred
name, you are hardly sane. WTF is a "white man's education." I sure hope you
don't think it is the way you are educated.
Evasion noted. White man's education, you know, history, science,
math, English, reading, writing etc.
You really are a putz
"James Crow Esq." <utahraptor88@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:46:41 GMT, "Me" <me@me.com> wrote:
Because the fucking KKK and any other white supremacist group are *****.
They
are just as much to blame for these problems.
Oh paleze, how can you or any sane person remotely say the KKK is
responsible for niglets not wanting to get a white man's education,
crimes and out of wedlock birth rates. My dog is smarter that you if
you really believe that *****.
The idiot is you for not knowing why they are listed in there.
"James Crow Esq." <utahraptor88@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ra44lv0g98t746a1976sqbhea61k4g2n5h@4ax.com...
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:48:55 GMT, "Me" <me@me.com> wrote:
There are alot of black people that would find this very disturbing at
the
very least. They would be disgraced by this. Groups you can blame for
this
are the NOI, NBPP, and the KKK. Three terrorist groups in this
country
that
need to be dismantled.
How did the KKK get in there. Buwahahahahahahaha, U R an Idiot.
"Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote in message
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"WhiteLiberal" <no.spam@no.spam> wrote in message
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Virginia Durr is a famous as a white activist who fought for most
of her life for equal civil rights and fair treatment of black
people.
For this cause she endured threats and social ostracism. Her
children
were harassed in school.
She and her husband were the ones who bailed Rosa Parks out of
jail
in Montgomery, Alabama and supported the year-long bus boycott.
In fact she was one of the key white people who helped bring about
desegregation in the South and better opportunities for blacks.
However, not all of them seem to know this, or even care.
Here's what happened when Ms. Durr visited a sociology class
full of black kids at Tuskegee Institute (from Chapter 22 of her
autobiography, _Outside the Magic Circle_):
---------------------------------------------------------------
As I began, I could feel a sense of hostility in the room, a sense
of coldness, nonresponse, but I began anyway. I said, "I don't
want to bore you young people with a two-hour seminar by telling
you the things that you already know. I'd like to know how many
people here have read and know about the case of _Gomillion v.
Lightfoot_." Not one of them had ever read the case or ever heard
of the book about that case. "My goodness, that's too bad because
this is about Macon County and it's about the long struggle for
the right to vote that Dr. Gomillion led." No response at all.
"Have you ever read DuBois's book, _The Souls of Black Folks_?
I think that is also one of the great classics that everybody
should
read." Nobody'd ever heard of it. "Have you read Dr. Horace Mann
Bond's book, _Negro Education in Alabama_ which I also consider
one of the great classics of Alabama history?" Nobody'd ever heard
of that.
A young girl was sitting right behind me and all of a sudden she
said, "You old lady, we don't want to hear you anyway. You just
coming down here to take us down. 'Have we read this? Have we read
that?' You just coming here to take us down. We know what kind of
folks you are. We don't want to hear you." With that the whole
class joined in: "No, we don't want to hear no white folks." I was
shocked beyond words. I had never been treated that way in my life
by black or white, with just open, insulting repudiation. There
was a girl in the back of the classroom who was flapping a book.
She had gotten a great big book and she kept flapping the pages.
I said, "I really can't say anything until the young lady over
there
stops making so much noise."
"I'll make all the noise I want to. I don't want to hear no white
folks anyway."
TNB.
Finally I said, "Now look, there are twenty-three people here.
Each one of you has made it perfectly plain to me that you don't
care one single thing about what I have to say... but I am very
eager to hear what you have to say. If you don't think we came to
talk about the right to vote..."
"That don't mean nothing!"
I asked, "Well, what does mean something? Mainly, I want to know
why all of you hate me so much. You've never seen me before. You
don't know anything about me. You're just expressing all this
hatred for me because I'm white, which I can't help but be. Why do
you hate me so much?"
I took each in turn and they told me why they hated white people.
One of them was a veteran and something had happened to him in
Vietnam and he hated white folks. The twenty-three black kids who
were sitting there each told me in detail why they hated white
folks. This took quite a white because they were extremely
articulate about why they hated white folks.
I said, "you don't believe that politics is going to do you any
good?" No. they said the big shots, the black leaders, in Tuskegee
were just as bad as white folks any day. The black mayor and the
black sheriff and the black people who'd been elected were no
better than the whites before them.
Probably because they "acted White."
"What about Greene County?" I asked.
"They're a bunch of crooks, too. They're no good."
"You don't believe that politics is going to help your position at
all?"
"No, not at all."
"Do any of you vote? Have you been registered?" None of them had
even registered.
So much for Bush "stealing" the election.
"Do you think that the law, the federal courts, have helped you
any?"
"They don't amount to nothing either."
"Well, then you tell me what you think the solution is." And they
gave me their solution -- and this was unanimous.
"Eldridge Cleaver's coming back and we're going to take it away
from the white folks. We're going to take what they got. We want
what the white folks have got."
TNB BIG TIME. The niggers want it ALL, they want it NOW, and don't
give a
***** how they get it, just as long as they don't have to work for
it.
"In other words, you see the solution as economic?"
"We want what the white folks got."
The meeting ended on that note. They didn't give a damn about
politics or about the right to vote or the right to sit down in a
bus. It was like the time I asked young Donny, who worked for me
on Saturdays, "Haven't you ever heard about the big struggle for
desegregation of the buses?"
"Huh, Mrs, Durr, you wants to ride on a _bus_? I want a car of my
own."
A Welfare Cadillac, no doubt.
They have absolutely no trust or faith in law or politics. They
want a car. They want a good house. They want a job. They want
opportunity to rise in the world. Eldridge Cleaver was coming back
and he was going to have a revolution. Cleaver had married a girl
from Tuskegee whose father was on the faculty and at that time he
was in Algeria. Of course, Eldridge Cleaver has come back, but
he's a totally different man.
Cleaver skipped the country and lived in exile for years, eventually
tiring
of finding that North Africans and camel jocks don't like niggers
either.
Eventually he enounced his militancy and returned to the U.S. to
face
justice, got off easy and lived in obscurity in L.A. until his death
in
1998.
That class in Tuskegee was, in a
way, the most painful moment of my life, because I felt that they
didn't give a damn about all I'd worked so hard for.
Nor do former BLACK Civil Rights leaders get any respect: "Eckford
said
last
spring that young children have no concept of segregation and that
they
have
trouble understanding the depth of the acrimony when Little Rock
schools
were first integrated." KUDOS! You got that right, sistah. About
the
only
Americans of African ancestry that non-black folks can comfortably
be
around
these days are the ones who are old enough to remember what things
were
like
BEFORE the 1964 Civil Rights act. About 95% of the blacks under the
age
of
35 that I meet today are used to having "Whitey" grovel at their
fucking
feet while they howl their you-owe-me-something-white-boy,
I-ain't-working-like-no-slave *****. Now here are all these
former
"activists" from the flower-power era whose own sprogs have
absolutely
no
idea of what it was like to live with Jim Crow- and "sundown" laws.
About
20 years ago there was an old, white-haired black security guard
where
I
worked, and he was more than a little disgusted with today's black
Americans. Once he told us about how he and his teen-age
great-grandson
were watching a documentary on Martin Luther King, and when the
footage
of
the demonstrators being fire-hosed and mauled by police dogs was
trotted
out, the kid bragged, "Man, dey wuddn'a done dat ***** to ME!"
Great-grandpa
replied, "No, boy, they'd have just blown your fool head off."
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Today: January 02, 2003 at 10:00:22 PST
Civil Rights Figure's Son Killed in Ark.
ASSOCIATED PRESS
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) - An officer fatally shot the son of one of
the
Little Rock Nine, the group of blacks who integrated the city's
schools
in
1957, police said.
Police said they were called after neighbors saw Erin Eckford, 26,
firing
an
assault rifle into the air Wednesday night.
Eckford was asked to put the weapon down, and when he did not,
officers
fired a bean bag round at him, to no avail, police Sgt. Terry
Hastings
said.
Eckford then began firing the assault rifle again, and police shot
back,
firing seven to 10 rounds and hitting him six times, Hastings said.
Eckford died at a nearby hospital.
The three officers involved were placed on administrative leave with
pay,
the normal procedure, pending a police investigation of the
shooting.
Eckford, a student at the University of Arkansas at Little Rock, was
the
son
of Elizabeth Eckford. She was among the students who broke the color
barrier
at Little Rock Central High School in 1957.
Elizabeth Eckford declined to comment, a family friend said. Her son
had a
short criminal history with a marijuana charge in 1997 and a firearm
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