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http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20051221104245957
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Thursday, December 22 2005 @ 06:39 AM EST
Religious Right's Claims of A 'War on Christmas' Thinner Than Cheap
Wrapping Paper, Says Americans United
Wednesday, December 21 2005 @ 10:42 AM EST
Views: 33
AU: Examples of Hostility Toward Christmas Melt Under Scrutiny
AU via BBSNews 2005-12-21 -- Religious Right groups and their allies in the
right-wing media insist that a “war on Christmas” is under way in America
but a new analysis of alleged examples of bias against Christmas shows more
hype than hard facts, says Americans United for Separation of Church and
State.
Americans United staff members researched the “war on Christmas” incidents
cited most frequently by Religious Right leaders and found them to be based
in myth, not fact. For details, read the AU report , “The Religious Right’s
Phony ‘War on Christmas’: Mything In Action.”
http://www.au.org/site/PageServer?pagename=resources_xmas_tales&JServSessionIdr005=0479x06w91.app1b
“This isn’t a war on Christmas it’s not even a skirmish,” said the Rev.
Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United. “When the facts are
exposed, the Religious Right’s ‘war on Christmas’ melts faster than a
snowman on an 80-degree day.”
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256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
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22 Dec 2005 07:55:06 AM |
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wrote in alt.atheism
Americans United staff members researched the "war on Christmas" incidents
cited most frequently by Religious Right leaders and found them to be based
in myth, not fact.
Just like their Bible.
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "The Fool" |
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22 Dec 2005 08:01:34 AM |
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Ha Ha Ha
You've been caught in your presumption. The term "war on Christmas"
comes from a book by a Fox News reporter that has, to my knowledge,
never expressed any personal faith statement and is not connected with
any church. So much for the religious right being behind this.
The War on Christmas: How the Liberal Plot to Ban the Sacred Christian
Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought
by John Gibson
http://www.penguinputnam.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,0_1595230165,00.html
buckeye-elo@nospam.net wrote:
http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20051221104245957
Welcome to BBSNews
Thursday, December 22 2005 @ 06:39 AM EST
Religious Right's Claims of A 'War on Christmas' Thinner Than Cheap
Wrapping Paper, Says Americans United
Wednesday, December 21 2005 @ 10:42 AM EST
Views: 33
AU: Examples of Hostility Toward Christmas Melt Under Scrutiny
AU via BBSNews 2005-12-21 -- Religious Right groups and their allies in the
right-wing media insist that a "war on Christmas" is under way in America
but a new analysis of alleged examples of bias against Christmas shows more
hype than hard facts, says Americans United for Separation of Church and
State.
Americans United staff members researched the "war on Christmas" incidents
cited most frequently by Religious Right leaders and found them to be based
in myth, not fact. For details, read the AU report , "The Religious Right's
Phony 'War on Christmas': Mything In Action."
http://www.au.org/site/PageServer?pagename=resources_xmas_tales&JServSessionIdr005=0479x06w91.app1b
"This isn't a war on Christmas it's not even a skirmish," said the Rev.
Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United. "When the facts are
exposed, the Religious Right's 'war on Christmas' melts faster than a
snowman on an 80-degree day."
Ken Clifton
christianjedi.com
christiancelebrity.com
somebodysaveme.com
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right's Claims of A 'War on Christmas' Thinner ThanCheap Wrapping Paper |
25 Dec 2005 08:23:02 PM |
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Okay, Ken... how much money you had to give your family this
Christmas so they could give you presents?
Paul
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| User: "AK47" |
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22 Dec 2005 08:50:17 AM |
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"The Fool" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1135260094.208091.98730@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
http://www.au.org/site/PageServer?pagename=resources_xmas_tales&JServSe
ssionIdr005=0479x06w91.app1b
Christian is a religious term; liberal a political one.This should be
obvious to anyone who thinks about it, but the political right has
deliberately confused pious and gullible people to follow the religious
right and do their bidding.
It is obvious to me and has been for a long time that the so called leaders
of the religious right are nothing more than dupes of the political right,
recruited for the purpose of getting their adherents to vote against their
economic self-interest.
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| Title: Re: Religious Right's Claims of A 'War on Christmas' Thinner Than Cheap Wrapping Paper |
24 Dec 2005 09:22:38 AM |
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"The Fool" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
:|Ha Ha Ha
:|You've been caught in your presumption. The term "war on Christmas"
:|comes from a book by a Fox News reporter that has, to my knowledge,
:|never expressed any personal faith statement and is not connected with
:|any church. So much for the religious right being behind this.
:|
:|The War on Christmas: How the Liberal Plot to Ban the Sacred Christian
:|Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought
:|by John Gibson
:|http://www.penguinputnam.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,0_1595230165,00.html
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Dear me.
Ha ha yourself
Where does Gibson work?
Who owns where he works?
What is the known position of that place?
Who else had picked up that banner and who is affiliated with the
theocrats. the radical religious right, etc?that has theocratic
You do like to keep sticking your foot in your mouth don't you?
:|buckeye-elo@nospam.net wrote:
:|> http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20051221104245957
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:|> Welcome to BBSNews
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:|> Thursday, December 22 2005 @ 06:39 AM EST
:|> Religious Right's Claims of A 'War on Christmas' Thinner Than Cheap
:|> Wrapping Paper, Says Americans United
:|>
:|> Wednesday, December 21 2005 @ 10:42 AM EST
:|>
:|> Views: 33
:|>
:|> AU: Examples of Hostility Toward Christmas Melt Under Scrutiny
:|>
:|> AU via BBSNews 2005-12-21 -- Religious Right groups and their allies in the
:|> right-wing media insist that a "war on Christmas" is under way in America
:|> but a new analysis of alleged examples of bias against Christmas shows more
:|> hype than hard facts, says Americans United for Separation of Church and
:|> State.
:|>
:|> Americans United staff members researched the "war on Christmas" incidents
:|> cited most frequently by Religious Right leaders and found them to be based
:|> in myth, not fact. For details, read the AU report , "The Religious Right's
:|> Phony 'War on Christmas': Mything In Action."
:|> http://www.au.org/site/PageServer?pagename=resources_xmas_tales&JServSessionIdr005=0479x06w91.app1b
:|>
:|>
:|> "This isn't a war on Christmas it's not even a skirmish," said the Rev.
:|> Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United. "When the facts are
:|> exposed, the Religious Right's 'war on Christmas' melts faster than a
:|> snowman on an 80-degree day."
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| User: "The Fool" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right's Claims of A 'War on Christmas' Thinner Than Cheap Wrapping Paper |
24 Dec 2005 12:56:25 PM |
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wrote:
"The Fool" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
:|Ha Ha Ha
:|You've been caught in your presumption. The term "war on Christmas"
:|comes from a book by a Fox News reporter that has, to my knowledge,
:|never expressed any personal faith statement and is not connected with
:|any church. So much for the religious right being behind this.
:|
:|The War on Christmas: How the Liberal Plot to Ban the Sacred Christian
:|Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought
:|by John Gibson
:|http://www.penguinputnam.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,0_1595230165,00.html
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Dear me.
Ha ha yourself
Where does Gibson work?
Who owns where he works?
What is the known position of that place?
Who else had picked up that banner and who is affiliated with the
theocrats. the radical religious right, etc?that has theocratic
You do like to keep sticking your foot in your mouth don't you?
What religious group owns Fox News? It is owned by Murdock, who
himself has never expressed any religious comments. What religious
group is a majority stock holder in that company. Scanning the top
shareholders, I find no religious group at all. Your presumption and
prejudice are showing.
Ken Clifton
christianjedi.com
christiancelebrity.com
somebodysaveme.com
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Religious Right's Claims of A 'War on Christmas' Thinner Than Cheap Wrapping Paper |
27 Dec 2005 06:54:55 AM |
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"The Fool" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
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:|buckeye-ELO@nospam.net wrote:
:|> "The Fool" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
:|>
:|> >:|Ha Ha Ha
:|> >:|You've been caught in your presumption. The term "war on Christmas"
:|> >:|comes from a book by a Fox News reporter that has, to my knowledge,
:|> >:|never expressed any personal faith statement and is not connected with
:|> >:|any church. So much for the religious right being behind this.
:|> >:|
:|> >:|The War on Christmas: How the Liberal Plot to Ban the Sacred Christian
:|> >:|Holiday Is Worse Than You Thought
:|> >:|by John Gibson
:|> >:|http://www.penguinputnam.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,0_1595230165,00.html
:|> >:|
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:|> Dear me.
:|> Ha ha yourself
:|>
:|> Where does Gibson work?
:|> Who owns where he works?
:|> What is the known position of that place?
:|>
:|> Who else had picked up that banner and who is affiliated with the
:|> theocrats. the radical religious right, etc?that has theocratic
:|>
:|>
:|> You do like to keep sticking your foot in your mouth don't you?
:|>
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:|What religious group owns Fox News? It is owned by Murdock, who
:|himself has never expressed any religious comments. What religious
:|group is a majority stock holder in that company. Scanning the top
:|shareholders, I find no religious group at all. Your presumption and
:|prejudice are showing.
:|
The only thing you have displayed dippy is your own closed mindedness and
ignorance once again.
Not all that is found in each or the following URls apply but there are
plenty that do
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=rupert++murdock+pat+robertson+&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rupert++Murdock+christian+right++&spell=1
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=rupert++Murdock+christian+coalition&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=rupert++Murdock++D+James+Kennedy+&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=rupert++Murdock++who%27%3Bs+who+of+the+radical+religious+right&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rupert++Murdock++who%27s+who+of+the+radical+religious+right&spell=1
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rupert++Murdock++dominionism&spell=1
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=rupert++Murdock++reconstructionists&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rupert++Murdock++theocrats&spell=1
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=rupert++Murdock++ultra+conservative&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=rupert++Murdock++ultra+conservative+religious+right&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=fox+news++ultra+conservative+religious+right&btnG=Search
The above is only a small fraction of what is out there and took maybe five
minutes to locate. Wonder why you weren't able to locate any of it
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Posting and reading from alt.politics.usa.constitution OR alt.education
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the U.S. and a couple from overseas as well]
***************************************************************
.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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| User: "" |
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24 Dec 2005 04:25:06 PM |
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The Fool wrote:
What religious group owns Fox News? It is owned by Murdock, who
himself has never expressed any religious comments. What religious
group is a majority stock holder in that company. Scanning the top
shareholders, I find no religious group at all. Your presumption and
prejudice are showing.
Religion has little to do with it. Praising Bush to the point
of fellatio, though, has everything to do with Fox News. Never
forget that these are the same people who thought Clinton
orchestrated the whole Y2K thing, never mind that it just
meant we'd get "19100" instead of "2000", or that everyone had
already dealt with it in the 70s (except for Microsoft, which
resurrected it).
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| User: "" |
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22 Dec 2005 10:20:00 PM |
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On 22 Dec 2005 06:01:34 -0800, "The Fool"
<kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ha Ha Ha
You've been caught in your presumption. The term "war on Christmas"
comes from a book by a Fox News reporter that has, to my knowledge,
never expressed any personal faith statement and is not connected with
any church. So much for the religious right being behind this.
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and quacks,
it's pretty much a duck
Gibson is fucking rightwing apologist hired (like all
the faux newz idiots) to promote a specific "take" on
news ENTERTAINMENT
Faux Snooze is not a legitimate "news" organization
It carries a disclaimer (won in a court case) that the
"news" it broadcasts does not necessarily represent
"truth"---it's purpose is to ENTERTAIN the viewers.
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