Sociology > Education > So Is Dukkke32 More of a Christian Liar or a Christian Idiot? (Re: How will apologists explain removal of Judge Moore?)
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So Is Dukkke32 More of a Christian Liar or a Christian Idiot? (Re: How will apologists explain removal of Judge Moore?) |
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:30:32 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:26:21 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
I mean you know that all kinds of whacked out fundies were praying for
him to be kept on the bench. Then again, they were praying that his
rock would stay in the courthouse and that the supreme court would
hear the case. How is it that their god would fail them at every turn
like this? I suppose he's "testing" them or something? <snicker> :).
BTW, good riddance to ex-judge moore-on!!!
Did you know ..
Did you know that you are simply reapeat the same rightwing *****
that has no basis in fact?
As you walk up the steps to the Capital Building which houses the Supreme
Court you can see near the top of the building a row of the world's law
givers and each one is facing the middle who is facing forward with a full
frontal view - it is Moses and the Ten Commandments!
BZZZZ The Capital Building DOES NOT HOUSE SCOTUS. What else do you
believe in, that the Great wall of China is in Japan? That Robert E
Lee is buried under Grant's Tomb? That George Bush is telling the
truth about Iraq?
As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the two huge oak doors have the
Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door.
WRONG
"The two representations of Moses which adorn the Supreme Court
building both present him in a context in which he is depicted as
merely one of several historical exemplars of lawgivers, not as a
religious figure."[1]
As you sit inside the courtroom, you can see the wall right above where the
Supreme Court judges sit is a display of the Ten Commandments!
There are Bible verses etched in stone all over the Federal Buildings and
Monuments in Washington, D.C.
James Madison, the fourth president, known as "The Father of Our
Constitution" made the following statement: "We have staked the whole of all
our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government,
upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control
ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten commandments of GOD."
WRONG, it's a quote you rightwing liars made up out of thin air.
"Actually, this statement appears nowhere in the writings or recorded
utterances of James Madison and is completely contradictory to his
character as a strong proponent of the separation of church and state.
"[2]
Let's look at some REAL Madison quotes shall we?
"[T]he number, the industry, and the morality of the Priesthood, & the
devotion of the people have been manifestly increased by the total
separation of the Church from the State."
J. Madison, Letter to Robert Walsh, March 2, 1819[5]
Patrick Henry, that patriot and Founding Father of our country said, "It
cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was
founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religions but on the
Gospel of Jesus Christ."
WRONG, it's another one of your rightwing George Bush lies.
"Another spurious quotation. These words appear nowhere in the
writings or recorded utterances of Patrick Henry. "[3]
Every session of Congress begins with a prayer by a paid preacher, whose
salary has been paid by the taxpayer since 1777.
Fifty-two of the 55 founders of the Constitution were members of the
established orthodox churches in the colonies.
WRONG
"The diverse beliefs and religiosity of America's founding fathers is
a complex subject, one which cannot be so neatly encapsulated by an
(inadequately substantiated) statement such as the one quoted above.
(See, for example, this critique of the above-quoted statement and
similar material.)"[4]
You obviously are too ignorant and too stupid to remember the history
of Rhode Island.
Thomas Jefferson worried about that the Courts would overstep their
authority and instead of interpreting law would begin making law, an
oligarchy, the rule of few over many.
WRONG
"...this issue really has nothing to do with the subject at hand (the
endorsement of Judeo-Christian tradition by the federal government),
other than in the tangential sense that some people feel one of the
areas in which U.S. courts have overstepped their bounds is the body
of decisions prohibiting the use or display of religious symbols and
references in state-operated institutions."[5]
Let's look at some REAL Jefferson quotes shall we?
"Is uniformity attainable? Millions of innocent men, women and
children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt,
tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet we have not advanced an inch towards
uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the
world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and
error all over the earth." - Thomas Jefferson, from "Notes on
Virginia" [6]
How then, have we gotten to the point that everything we have done for 200
years in this country is now suddenly wrong and unconstitutional?
How then, do you think you know what you're talking about when all you
do is lie?
[1] http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/capital.asp
[2] ibid
[3] ibid
[4] ibid
[5] http://www.au.org/churchstate/cs3014.htm
[6] http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/extra/founding-fathers.html
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| Title: Re: So Is Dukkke32 More of a Christian Liar or a Christian Idiot? (Re: How will apologists explain removal of Judge Moore?) |
14 Nov 2003 05:58:49 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:31:23 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the two huge oak doors have the
Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door.
WRONG
"The two representations of Moses which adorn the Supreme Court
building both present him in a context in which he is depicted as
merely one of several historical exemplars of lawgivers, not as a
religious figure."[1]
bzzzzzzz - Moses **is** a religious figure.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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14 Nov 2003 10:01:59 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:58:49 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:31:23 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the two huge oak doors have the
Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door.
WRONG
"The two representations of Moses which adorn the Supreme Court
building both present him in a context in which he is depicted as
merely one of several historical exemplars of lawgivers, not as a
religious figure."[1]
bzzzzzzz - Moses **is** a religious figure.
bzzzzzzz - learn to read.
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"Every sensible man, every honest man, must hold the christian sect in horror. 'But what
shall we substitute in its place?' you say. What? A ferocious animal has sucked the
blood of my relatives. I tell you to rid yourselves of this beast and you ask me what
you shall put in its place?" - Voltaire
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15 Nov 2003 07:01:39 AM |
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:01:59 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:58:49 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:31:23 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the two huge oak doors have the
Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door.
WRONG
"The two representations of Moses which adorn the Supreme Court
building both present him in a context in which he is depicted as
merely one of several historical exemplars of lawgivers, not as a
religious figure."[1]
bzzzzzzz - Moses **is** a religious figure.
bzzzzzzz - learn to read.
bzzzzzz- here's what the judge was saying.
*****
Buildings in the U.S. capital and statements by America's founding fathers
includes references to Judeo-Christian tradition: True.
The items included in the piece quoted below demonstrate a government
endorsement of Judeo-Christian tradition: False.
*****
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: So Is Dukkke32 More of a Christian Liar or a Christian Idiot? (Re: How will apologists explain removal of Judge Moore?) |
15 Nov 2003 02:31:29 PM |
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:01:39 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:01:59 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:58:49 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:31:23 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the two huge oak doors have the
Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door.
WRONG
"The two representations of Moses which adorn the Supreme Court
building both present him in a context in which he is depicted as
merely one of several historical exemplars of lawgivers, not as a
religious figure."[1]
bzzzzzzz - Moses **is** a religious figure.
bzzzzzzz - learn to read.
bzzzzzz- here's what the judge was saying.
I was referring to what *YOU* were saying.
The representation of Moses isn't Moses the Jew, it's Moses the
lawgiver. (Or do you maintain that depiction of Hammurabi means a
depiction of Paganism?) And the doors have the Roman numerals I-X on
them - no commandments. Try looking at them next time you're there.
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numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion,
only His nonexistence could excuse Him."
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16 Nov 2003 08:35:18 AM |
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:31:29 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
bzzzzzz- here's what the judge was saying.
I was referring to what *YOU* were saying.
The representation of Moses isn't Moses the Jew, it's Moses the
lawgiver.
Yes, federal building presenting the giving of the laws of God .
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16 Nov 2003 01:09:37 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:35:18 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 20:31:29 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
bzzzzzz- here's what the judge was saying.
I was referring to what *YOU* were saying.
The representation of Moses isn't Moses the Jew, it's Moses the
lawgiver.
Yes, federal building presenting the giving of the laws of God .
Yes, and?
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"If anyone comes to me, and does not hate his father, mother, wife, brothers, and sisters and even himself, he cannot be my disciple."
Luke 14:26
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17 Nov 2003 05:51:52 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:09:37 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
The representation of Moses isn't Moses the Jew, it's Moses the
lawgiver.
Yes, federal building presenting the giving of the laws of God .
Yes, and?
Why does the judge have to take his down?
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17 Nov 2003 11:09:25 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:51:52 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:09:37 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
The representation of Moses isn't Moses the Jew, it's Moses the
lawgiver.
Yes, federal building presenting the giving of the laws of God .
Yes, and?
Why does the judge have to take his down?
"His"? You seem to see parallelism where there isn't any. Context
matters, Earl.
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"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid
consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and
ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who
works on the basis of reward and punishment. "
- Letter to M. Berkowitz, October 25, 1950; Einstein Archive 59-215
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18 Nov 2003 05:45:54 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:09:25 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
"His"? You seem to see parallelism where there isn't any. Context
matters, Earl.
Where don't you see parallelism. And please, call me duke.
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19 Nov 2003 10:35:16 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:45:54 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:09:25 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
"His"? You seem to see parallelism where there isn't any. Context
matters, Earl.
Where don't you see parallelism.
In your assertions of parallelism.
And please, call me duke.
Sure, Earl. As soon as you change your name.
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20 Nov 2003 05:35:36 PM |
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:35:16 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
And please, call me duke.
Sure, Earl. As soon as you change your name.
When you change from al klein to your real name, so will I.
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20 Nov 2003 09:37:47 PM |
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:35:36 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 04:35:16 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
And please, call me duke.
Sure, Earl. As soon as you change your name.
When you change from al klein to your real name, so will I.
I'm easy to verify. I'm in the phone book. I'm in the Call Book.
I'm in the DMV records. All under "Al Klein".
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"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your
Christ."
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21 Nov 2003 05:22:08 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:37:47 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
And please, call me duke.
Sure, Earl. As soon as you change your name.
When you change from al klein to your real name, so will I.
I'm easy to verify. I'm in the phone book. I'm in the Call Book.
I'm in the DMV records. All under "Al Klein".
I don't care what your real name is.
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21 Nov 2003 10:48:35 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:22:08 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:37:47 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
And please, call me duke.
Sure, Earl. As soon as you change your name.
When you change from al klein to your real name, so will I.
I'm easy to verify. I'm in the phone book. I'm in the Call Book.
I'm in the DMV records. All under "Al Klein".
I don't care what your real name is.
Then why did you bring it up?
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"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he
unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
-- Bertrand Russell.
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22 Nov 2003 08:41:00 AM |
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 04:48:35 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
When you change from al klein to your real name, so will I.
I'm easy to verify. I'm in the phone book. I'm in the Call Book.
I'm in the DMV records. All under "Al Klein".
I don't care what your real name is.
Then why did you bring it up?
Why did you bring it up?
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22 Nov 2003 11:29:45 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:41:00 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 04:48:35 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
When you change from al klein to your real name, so will I.
I'm easy to verify. I'm in the phone book. I'm in the Call Book.
I'm in the DMV records. All under "Al Klein".
I don't care what your real name is.
Then why did you bring it up?
Why did you bring it up?
"When you change from al klein to your real name, so will I." are YOUR
words, and the first reference to my real name.
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"I don't try to imagine a God; it suffices to stand in awe of the structure of the world
insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to appreciate it."
- Letter to S. Flesch, April 16, 1954; Einstein Archive 30-1154
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23 Nov 2003 06:09:53 AM |
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 05:29:45 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
"When you change from al klein to your real name, so will I." are YOUR
words, and the first reference to my real name.
Yeah, sure, pete.
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23 Nov 2003 09:56:58 AM |
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 06:09:53 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 05:29:45 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
"When you change from al klein to your real name, so will I." are YOUR
words, and the first reference to my real name.
Yeah, sure, pete.
It's amazing how you demonstrate your inability to accept reality,
then claim that your god is real and expect us to believe you.
Ever hear the story of the boy who cried "Wolf!"? All they'll find
when you die, Earl, metaphorically, is a few shreds of your clothes
and a few drops of blood. The wolf will have eaten the rest.
Don't believe me - I won't suffer for your transgression.
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not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."
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23 Nov 2003 02:59:34 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:56:58 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
"When you change from al klein to your real name, so will I." are YOUR
words, and the first reference to my real name.
Yeah, sure, pete.
It's amazing how you demonstrate your inability to accept reality,
then claim that your god is real and expect us to believe you.
I know what al klein said - many times.
Ever hear the story of the boy who cried "Wolf!"? All they'll find
when you die, Earl, metaphorically, is a few shreds of your clothes
and a few drops of blood. The wolf will have eaten the rest.
The wolf never got to my soul.
Don't believe me - I won't suffer for your transgression.
Nor am I worried about your assessment.
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23 Nov 2003 07:14:34 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:59:34 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:56:58 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
"When you change from al klein to your real name, so will I." are YOUR
words, and the first reference to my real name.
Yeah, sure, pete.
It's amazing how you demonstrate your inability to accept reality,
then claim that your god is real and expect us to believe you.
I know what al klein said - many times.
And, like a lot of what you "know", you're wrong.
Ever hear the story of the boy who cried "Wolf!"? All they'll find
when you die, Earl, metaphorically, is a few shreds of your clothes
and a few drops of blood. The wolf will have eaten the rest.
The wolf never got to my soul.
The blind can't see.
Don't believe me - I won't suffer for your transgression.
Nor am I worried about your assessment.
You won't be - until it's too late.
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24 Nov 2003 05:32:33 PM |
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:14:34 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 14:59:34 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 15:56:58 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
"When you change from al klein to your real name, so will I." are YOUR
words, and the first reference to my real name.
Yeah, sure, pete.
It's amazing how you demonstrate your inability to accept reality,
then claim that your god is real and expect us to believe you.
I know what al klein said - many times.
And, like a lot of what you "know", you're wrong.
No I'm not.
Ever hear the story of the boy who cried "Wolf!"? All they'll find
when you die, Earl, metaphorically, is a few shreds of your clothes
and a few drops of blood. The wolf will have eaten the rest.
The wolf never got to my soul.
The blind can't see.
That's right, you can't.
Don't believe me - I won't suffer for your transgression.
Nor am I worried about your assessment.
You won't be - until it's too late.
That's what I keep telling you about your life.
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24 Nov 2003 09:28:24 PM |
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:32:33 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 01:14:34 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
I know what al klein said - many times.
And, like a lot of what you "know", you're wrong.
No I'm not.
Then prove it. Post the quotation showing me saying that I died
twice.
Don't believe me - I won't suffer for your transgression.
Nor am I worried about your assessment.
You won't be - until it's too late.
That's what I keep telling you about your life.
You guess, I know.
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not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."
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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 04:48:35 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>,
Message ID: <tjqtrvg4khsfkdeeotv8ifvt4otgb50nk5@Pern.rk> wrote in
alt.atheism;
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 17:22:08 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 03:37:47 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
And please, call me duke.
Sure, Earl. As soon as you change your name.
When you change from al klein to your real name, so will I.
I'm easy to verify. I'm in the phone book. I'm in the Call Book.
I'm in the DMV records. All under "Al Klein".
I don't care what your real name is.
Then why did you bring it up?
SNICKER!
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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| Title: Re: SoDavid Duke and the Klan More of a Christian Liar or a Christian Idiot? (Re: How will apologists explain removal of Judge Moore?) |
18 Nov 2003 01:02:49 AM |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:51:52 -0600, duke wrote
(in message <snnirv08qrle5gotvggi4vp97u19gpqhdq@4ax.com>):
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 19:09:37 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
The representation of Moses isn't Moses the Jew, it's Moses the
lawgiver.
Yes, federal building presenting the giving of the laws of God .
Yes, and?
Why does the judge have to take his down?
Because he lost.
Gray
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| User: "JessHC" |
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| Title: Re: So Is Dukkke32 More of a Christian Liar or a Christian Idiot? (Re: How will apologists explain removal of Judge Moore?) |
15 Nov 2003 04:23:19 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<nr8crvgdkn86rg1t0jkhrbehlb7tuusag6@4ax.com>...
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:01:59 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:58:49 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 03:31:23 GMT, (Yang) wrote:
As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the two huge oak doors have the
Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door.
WRONG
"The two representations of Moses which adorn the Supreme Court
building both present him in a context in which he is depicted as
merely one of several historical exemplars of lawgivers, not as a
religious figure."[1]
bzzzzzzz - Moses **is** a religious figure.
bzzzzzzz - learn to read.
bzzzzzz- here's what the judge was saying.
*****
Buildings in the U.S. capital and statements by America's founding fathers
includes references to Judeo-Christian tradition: True.
The items included in the piece quoted below demonstrate a government
endorsement of Judeo-Christian tradition: False.
*****
The problem with you repeatedly posting those two quotes is mainly
that they come from Barbara and David Mikkelson, who run the urban
legend site snopes.com. Your twisted little judge isn't saying
anything like that.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: So Is Dukkke32 More of a Christian Liar or a Christian Idiot? (Re: How will apologists explain removal of Judge Moore?) |
16 Nov 2003 08:36:50 AM |
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On 15 Nov 2003 14:23:19 -0800, (JessHC) wrote:
The problem with you repeatedly posting those two quotes is mainly
that they come from Barbara and David Mikkelson, who run the urban
legend site snopes.com.
Are they wrong?
Your twisted little judge isn't saying anything like that.
I say he was saying the same thing. Care to divulge what he was saying
differently?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: So Is Dukkke32 More of a Christian Liar or a Christian Idiot? (Re: How will apologists explain removal of Judge Moore?) |
16 Nov 2003 05:37:55 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:36:50 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On 15 Nov 2003 14:23:19 -0800, (JessHC) wrote:
The problem with you repeatedly posting those two quotes is mainly
that they come from Barbara and David Mikkelson, who run the urban
legend site snopes.com.
Are they wrong?
THEY say they are.
Your twisted little judge isn't saying anything like that.
I say he was saying the same thing.
Citation?
--
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but
not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."
-A. Einstein (1929 -- Einstein Archive 33-272)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: So Is Dukkke32 More of a Christian Liar or a Christian Idiot? (Re: How will apologists explain removal of Judge Moore?) |
17 Nov 2003 05:54:52 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:37:55 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:36:50 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On 15 Nov 2003 14:23:19 -0800, (JessHC) wrote:
The problem with you repeatedly posting those two quotes is mainly
that they come from Barbara and David Mikkelson, who run the urban
legend site snopes.com.
Are they wrong?
THEY say they are.
Your twisted little judge isn't saying anything like that.
I say he was saying the same thing.
Citation?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: So Is Dukkke32 More of a Christian Liar or a Christian Idiot? (Re: How will apologists explain removal of Judge Moore?) |
17 Nov 2003 11:09:48 PM |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:54:52 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:37:55 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:36:50 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On 15 Nov 2003 14:23:19 -0800, (JessHC) wrote:
The problem with you repeatedly posting those two quotes is mainly
that they come from Barbara and David Mikkelson, who run the urban
legend site snopes.com.
Are they wrong?
THEY say they are.
Your twisted little judge isn't saying anything like that.
I say he was saying the same thing.
Citation?
None. I see.
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"If we really know Truth, we do not fear hearing falsehoods or half-truths; if we are not sure of the truth - we shudder and try to shout down every utterance." - A. J. Mims
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "AngryJohn" |
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| Title: Re: So Is Dukkke32 More of a Christian Liar or a Christian Idiot? (Re: How will apologists explain removal of Judge Moore?) |
18 Nov 2003 11:02:29 PM |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 05:09:48 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 17:54:52 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:37:55 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 08:36:50 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
in alt.atheism:
On 15 Nov 2003 14:23:19 -0800, (JessHC) wrote:
The problem with you repeatedly posting those two quotes is mainly
that they come from Barbara and David Mikkelson, who run the urban
legend site snopes.com.
Are they wrong?
THEY say they are.
Your twisted little judge isn't saying anything like that.
I say he was saying the same thing.
Citation?
None. I see.
I got a really good laugh reading his citation.
aa#2106
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