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User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder"
Date: 01 May 2006 12:35:44 PM
Object: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God
According to a new study that can be referenced here...
http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html
....most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...
....62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
....69 percent of social scientists believe in God.
Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
.

User: "Zadok"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 01 May 2006 12:47:37 PM
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <> wrote in message
...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of

Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Kenny, how does that compare to the population at large??
I read this on another survey.
Those with no college education (82%) are more likely to believe in God than
those with postgraduate education (73%).
Is that saying that educated people are less likely to believe in God??
What do you think Kenny??
.
User: "Antonio Forza"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 02 May 2006 08:54:02 AM
On Mon, 01 May 2006 17:47:37 GMT, "Zadok" <nobler@accesswave.ca>
wrote:


"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <> wrote in message

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of

Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.


Kenny, how does that compare to the population at large??

I read this on another survey.

Those with no college education (82%) are more likely to believe in God than
those with postgraduate education (73%).

Is that saying that educated people are less likely to believe in God??

That is an excellent observation. The more intelligent people are,
and the more educated they become, the more likely they are to abandon
the silly god beliefs and overcome their religious indoctrination.
--
Mental Anarchy - Free Your Mind
http://mentalanarchy.com
--
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User: "Dick Kirk Trufflet"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 01 May 2006 01:51:35 PM
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

What's your point?
This is something that people tell creationists all the time. It's also
something creationists don't believe.
Are you a creationist?
If so, how do you explain that scientists are expressing personal beliefs
that creationist believe are in conflict with their findings?

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

.

User: "Bill"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 01 May 2006 12:48:46 PM
In 1492 95% of the people of the world believed the world was flat and that
the Sun, Starts and Planets revolved around the earth.
Belief in gods is neither proof nor evidence of gods.
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

.
User: ""

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 01 May 2006 02:02:25 PM
Bill wrote:

In 1492 95% of the people of the world believed the world was flat and that
the Sun, Starts and Planets revolved around the earth.

Actually, most people knew the world was round, on both sides of the
Atlantic. Only on this side did anyone know the earth went around the
sun, though.
Not that it matters. All Kenny proved is that most scientists aren't
German Romantics.
.


User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 01 May 2006 01:08:30 PM
In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

Wow. What a newsflash.
I've only pointed this out on this group a half-dozen or so times
before, in the context of demonstrating that it is quite
possible for a biologist both to be convinced by the power
of the evolutionary hypothesis and at the same time
to believe in God.
The figure I have quoted here, many times, is that 40-45% of
biologists interviewed are believers, this based on Larson's
update of Leuba's famous 1916 stdy.
(of course Larson's study also revealed that when the
creme de la creme of American scientists were polled --
members of the highly-select National Academy of
Scientists -- only 7% expressed belief. but that's
a different story)
-- cary
.
User: "Alric Knebel"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 02 May 2006 01:52:36 AM
Cary Kittrell wrote:


Wow. What a newsflash.

I've only pointed this out on this group a half-dozen or so times
before, in the context of demonstrating that it is quite
possible for a biologist both to be convinced by the power
of the evolutionary hypothesis and at the same time
to believe in God.

The figure I have quoted here, many times, is that 40-45% of
biologists interviewed are believers, this based on Larson's
update of Leuba's famous 1916 stdy.


(of course Larson's study also revealed that when the
creme de la creme of American scientists were polled --
members of the highly-select National Academy of
Scientists -- only 7% expressed belief. but that's
a different story)

But a very SIGNIFICANT story.
--
Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
.

User: "Midjis"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 01 May 2006 03:22:01 PM
Cary Kittrell wrote:

this based on Larson's
update of Leuba's famous 1916 stdy.

Larson? He's the cow guy, isn't he?
Sorry...
.

User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 02 May 2006 12:37:24 AM
On Mon, 1 May 2006 13:08, Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed
in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken


Wow. What a newsflash.

I've only pointed this out on this group a half-dozen or so times
before, in the context of demonstrating that it is quite
possible for a biologist both to be convinced by the power
of the evolutionary hypothesis and at the same time
to believe in God.

The figure I have quoted here, many times, is that 40-45% of
biologists interviewed are believers, this based on Larson's
update of Leuba's famous 1916 stdy.


(of course Larson's study also revealed that when the
creme de la creme of American scientists were polled --
members of the highly-select National Academy of
Scientists -- only 7% expressed belief. but that's
a different story)


-- cary

My Dad (Woodland G Shockley) was NAS and a Christian (as well as ASCE, ASTM,
FHA, RSVP, SOB and WASP).
Interestingly enough, we came to about the same place on evolution. Sure
there's evolution {and, certainly, more so this month than month before last}
but the question of existence is /such/ a greater interest than just that. I,
of course, recognized my own when I first came across you know who saying you
know what ("Now my own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer
than we suppose, but queerer than we *can* suppose." - J B S Haldane).
But I had been well-prepared for it by science-fiction and fantasy writer
John D MacDonald who, later, became John D MacDonald, mystery writer and
creator of Travis McGee (and Meyer, of course).
_Ballroom of the Skies_ and _Wine of the Dreamers_ are both "alternative
explanations" that are about as good as anyone else's explanation but if read
with a but, but, but, but, butt me no buts can be an interesting exercise in
fertility - of the mind I mean.
But anyone who goes to the (slight) trouble of getting those two should feel
totally obligated to also get _The Girl, the Gold Watch and Everything_
simply because, "Sheesh, Marie" - it has to be done that way and when that
ole judge's wife - - never mind but just say, "Uncle".
I can't remember your creation-destruction (x10?) sequence but mine is that
of the Simurgh [I just heard both chuckles and giggles] who has watched the
creation and destruction of the universe three times.
And remember that Pascal's wager started out with a trey of diamonds, a four
of hearts, a six of clubs, a nine of spades and - of course - the Jack of
Hearts.
And if you be thinkin' that Pascal was just stupid, you should have seen the
night Nietzsche and Locke took him out cow-tipping. (This was before Pascal
and Wozniak got together.)
How that boy mistoook a ram for a cow is a question that'll never be answered
as long as Pascal is uttering stringed expressions.
Gray / such as they do be /
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 02 May 2006 11:50:28 AM
Gray Shockley <grayshockley@gmail.com>


On Mon, 1 May 2006 13:08, Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed


in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken


Wow. What a newsflash.

I've only pointed this out on this group a half-dozen or so times
before, in the context of demonstrating that it is quite
possible for a biologist both to be convinced by the power
of the evolutionary hypothesis and at the same time
to believe in God.

The figure I have quoted here, many times, is that 40-45% of
biologists interviewed are believers, this based on Larson's
update of Leuba's famous 1916 stdy.


(of course Larson's study also revealed that when the
creme de la creme of American scientists were polled --
members of the highly-select National Academy of
Scientists -- only 7% expressed belief. but that's
a different story)


-- cary



My Dad (Woodland G Shockley) was NAS and a Christian (as well as ASCE, ASTM,
FHA, RSVP, SOB and WASP).

Interestingly enough, we came to about the same place on evolution. Sure
there's evolution {and, certainly, more so this month than month before last}
but the question of existence is /such/ a greater interest than just that. I,
of course, recognized my own when I first came across you know who saying you
know what ("Now my own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer
than we suppose, but queerer than we *can* suppose." - J B S Haldane).

But I had been well-prepared for it by science-fiction and fantasy writer
John D MacDonald who, later, became John D MacDonald, mystery writer and
creator of Travis McGee (and Meyer, of course).

_Ballroom of the Skies_ and _Wine of the Dreamers_ are both "alternative
explanations" that are about as good as anyone else's explanation but if read
with a but, but, but, but, butt me no buts can be an interesting exercise in
fertility - of the mind I mean.

I just attended four lectures by Simon Conway Morris, of Burgess
Shales and "Wonderful Life" fame. Conway Morris is a prominent
paleontologist and an unabashed, witnessing Christian -- and the only time
I saw anything other than affability was when he mentioned
creationism in general and ID in particular; he was unable
to disguise his comtempt for these.
Anyhoo, he is a great fan of the idea of alternate histories,
and one of his slides was a cover from a Harry Turtledove
novel (which Turtledove had personally given him). He enjoys
the "what if" game from an evolutionary point of view (his
conclusion: things will always turn out more or less the same.
Take THAT, the late Dr. Gould)
-- cary
.
User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 03 May 2006 02:50:55 AM
On Tue, 2 May 2006 11:50:28 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote:


Gray Shockley <grayshockley@gmail.com>


On Mon, 1 May 2006 13:08, Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Wide
Eyed


in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken


Wow. What a newsflash.

I've only pointed this out on this group a half-dozen or so times
before, in the context of demonstrating that it is quite
possible for a biologist both to be convinced by the power
of the evolutionary hypothesis and at the same time
to believe in God.

The figure I have quoted here, many times, is that 40-45% of
biologists interviewed are believers, this based on Larson's
update of Leuba's famous 1916 stdy.


(of course Larson's study also revealed that when the
creme de la creme of American scientists were polled --
members of the highly-select National Academy of
Scientists -- only 7% expressed belief. but that's
a different story)


-- cary



My Dad (Woodland G Shockley) was NAS and a Christian (as well as ASCE,
ASTM, FHA, RSVP, SOB and WASP).

Interestingly enough, we came to about the same place on evolution. Sure
there's evolution {and, certainly, more so this month than month before
last} but the question of existence is /such/ a greater interest than
just that.
I, of course, recognized my own when I first came across you know
who saying you know what ("Now my own suspicion is that the
Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than
we *can* suppose." - J B S Haldane).

But I had been well-prepared for it by science-fiction and fantasy writer
John D MacDonald who, later, became John D MacDonald, mystery writer and
creator of Travis McGee (and Meyer, of course).

_Ballroom of the Skies_ and _Wine of the Dreamers_ are both "alternative
explanations" that are about as good as anyone else's explanation but if
read with a but, but, but, but, butt me no buts can be an interesting
exercise in fertility - of the mind I mean.

I just attended four lectures by Simon Conway Morris, of Burgess
Shales and "Wonderful Life" fame. Conway Morris is a prominent
paleontologist and an unabashed, witnessing Christian -- and the only time
I saw anything other than affability was when he mentioned
creationism in general and ID in particular; he was unable
to disguise his comtempt for these.

The child locked in the attic is always /so/ embarrassing! "You're not
related to /him/, are you? Yuck!"

Anyhoo, he is a great fan of the idea of alternate histories,
and one of his slides was a cover from a Harry Turtledove

I keep stumbling across that name. Turtledove writes?

novel (which Turtledove had personally given him). He enjoys
the "what if" game from an evolutionary point of view (his
conclusion: things will always turn out more or less the same.

That may be why the Simurgh is starting to get bored.

Take THAT, the late Dr. Gould)

"Never kill a mockingbird." JayBirds are open season.
++ gray

-- cary


.




User: "IKnowHimDoYou- A."

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 02 May 2006 12:41:14 PM
In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

____________________________________________________________
Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in God
and try to convince others not to either...
What difference does it make to them?
They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to Him
when they die.
.
User: "Dick Kirk Trufflet"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 02 May 2006 01:43:21 PM
"IKnowHimDoYou- A." <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IKnowHim-0205061041140001@pm3-11.kalama.com...

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

____________________________________________________________

Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in God
and try to convince others not to either...

What difference does it make to them?

They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to Him
when they die.

Oh really?
Well I'm glad there are arrogant little twerps like yourself around to tell
people what they are actually thinking.
You need to worry about your own meeting with your maker. What anyone else
does isn't your concern
.

User: "AcesLucky"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 02 May 2006 01:43:57 PM
IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:


According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

____________________________________________________________

Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in God
and try to convince others not to either...

What difference does it make to them?

They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to Him
when they die.

I didn't see Pope John Paul go to a faith healer...he went straight to
the best doctors in the world.
Point is, when push comes to shove...science seems to be the method of
choice. No miracle there.
..
.

User: "Alric Knebel"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 02 May 2006 03:34:29 PM
IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:


According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken


____________________________________________________________

Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in God
and try to convince others not to either...

What difference does it make to them?

It doesn't make a real difference. We're only calling you to the carpet
for your silliness.

They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to Him
when they die.

I believe in God. Just not YOUR view of Him. (Or "It.")
--
Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
.

User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 02 May 2006 01:07:49 PM
IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

____________________________________________________________

Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in God
and try to convince others not to either...

What difference does it make to them?

They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to Him
when they die.

Indeed. When a story that some scientists believe causes an uproar, it
reveals that atheists are not content with disbelief in themselves but
ensuring no one has the choice to disagree.
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
.
User: "Dick Kirk Trufflet"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 02 May 2006 01:41:48 PM
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1146593269.438763.316270@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...


IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

____________________________________________________________

Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in God
and try to convince others not to either...

What difference does it make to them?

They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to Him
when they die.


Indeed. When a story that some scientists believe causes an uproar, it
reveals that atheists are not content with disbelief in themselves but
ensuring no one has the choice to disagree.

What uproar did it cause?
Every reply you got said essentially "no kidding".
You are a liar trying to manufacture controversy.
Next time try to make a point.
.

User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 02 May 2006 03:43:51 PM
In article <1146593269.438763.316270@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

____________________________________________________________

Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in God
and try to convince others not to either...

What difference does it make to them?

They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to Him
when they die.


Indeed. When a story that some scientists believe causes an uproar, it
reveals that atheists are not content with disbelief in themselves but
ensuring no one has the choice to disagree.

Really? What story, and what uproar?
On the off chance that it's THIS story you're talking about, please
recall that the "uproar" I responded with was to remind you
that I have said this very same thing on this in at least
five different threads: that half of biologists, more or less,
are believers, and that this demonstrates the obvious fact that
one can accept both God and evolution with no congnitive dissonance.
Or did I just try to ensure that you have no choice to disagree again?
-- cary
.
User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 02 May 2006 08:07:35 PM
Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146593269.438763.316270@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

____________________________________________________________

Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in God
and try to convince others not to either...

What difference does it make to them?

They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to Him
when they die.


Indeed. When a story that some scientists believe causes an uproar, it
reveals that atheists are not content with disbelief in themselves but
ensuring no one has the choice to disagree.



Really? What story, and what uproar?

On the off chance that it's THIS story you're talking about, please
recall that the "uproar" I responded with was to remind you
that I have said this very same thing on this in at least
five different threads: that half of biologists, more or less,
are believers, and that this demonstrates the obvious fact that
one can accept both God and evolution with no congnitive dissonance.

Or did I just try to ensure that you have no choice to disagree again?


-- cary

And this non-important, irrelevant story got so much response
because.... Careful, your prejudice is showing.
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
.
User: "Dick Kirk Trufflet"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 03 May 2006 10:59:09 AM
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1146618455.299838.108670@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...


Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146593269.438763.316270@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they
would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76
percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

____________________________________________________________

Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in
God
and try to convince others not to either...

What difference does it make to them?

They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to
Him
when they die.


Indeed. When a story that some scientists believe causes an uproar, it
reveals that atheists are not content with disbelief in themselves but
ensuring no one has the choice to disagree.



Really? What story, and what uproar?

On the off chance that it's THIS story you're talking about, please
recall that the "uproar" I responded with was to remind you
that I have said this very same thing on this in at least
five different threads: that half of biologists, more or less,
are believers, and that this demonstrates the obvious fact that
one can accept both God and evolution with no congnitive dissonance.

Or did I just try to ensure that you have no choice to disagree again?


-- cary


And this non-important, irrelevant story got so much response
because.... Careful, your prejudice is showing.

Why is it that you are avoiding the fact that your post contradicted your
own history and people weren't disagreeing with the topic?
.

User: "Bob LeChevalier"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 03 May 2006 12:32:36 AM
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

And this non-important, irrelevant story got so much response
because....

It got negligible response, idiot. On this newsgroup the thread has a
mere 23 posts.
The Harry Potter fan newsgroup has a couple of new threads EACH DAY
that gets more response than that. Does that mean that the nature of
elementary schools for wizards in the Potterverse is important?
23 posts ridiculing you is in fact rather typical for one of your
sillier threads. But we've known you to drag it out to hundreds
before.

Careful, your prejudice is showing.

Actually, it is YOURS that is mostly in evidence.
lojbab
.

User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 02 May 2006 08:29:45 PM
In article <1146618455.299838.108670@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146593269.438763.316270@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

____________________________________________________________

Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in God
and try to convince others not to either...

What difference does it make to them?

They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to Him
when they die.


Indeed. When a story that some scientists believe causes an uproar, it
reveals that atheists are not content with disbelief in themselves but
ensuring no one has the choice to disagree.



Really? What story, and what uproar?

On the off chance that it's THIS story you're talking about, please
recall that the "uproar" I responded with was to remind you
that I have said this very same thing on this in at least
five different threads: that half of biologists, more or less,
are believers, and that this demonstrates the obvious fact that
one can accept both God and evolution with no congnitive dissonance.

Or did I just try to ensure that you have no choice to disagree again?


-- cary


And this non-important, irrelevant story got so much response
because.... Careful, your prejudice is showing.

"non-important"? "irrelevant"?
If I thought that, why would I have posted exactly the same
thing, time after time after time, and long before you had
ever heard of it? I have always thought it's quite useful for
correcting those who, for some bizarre reason, think that evolution
and religious belief are mutually exclusive.
And -- and I do expect an answer to this -- what "prejudice"
of mine have I displayed by so frequently bringing up the fact
that so many practicing biologists are believers?
-- cary
.
User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 02 May 2006 09:38:30 PM
Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146618455.299838.108670@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146593269.438763.316270@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

____________________________________________________________

Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in God
and try to convince others not to either...

What difference does it make to them?

They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to Him
when they die.


Indeed. When a story that some scientists believe causes an uproar, it
reveals that atheists are not content with disbelief in themselves but
ensuring no one has the choice to disagree.



Really? What story, and what uproar?

On the off chance that it's THIS story you're talking about, please
recall that the "uproar" I responded with was to remind you
that I have said this very same thing on this in at least
five different threads: that half of biologists, more or less,
are believers, and that this demonstrates the obvious fact that
one can accept both God and evolution with no congnitive dissonance.

Or did I just try to ensure that you have no choice to disagree again?


-- cary


And this non-important, irrelevant story got so much response
because.... Careful, your prejudice is showing.



"non-important"? "irrelevant"?

If I thought that, why would I have posted exactly the same
thing, time after time after time, and long before you had
ever heard of it? I have always thought it's quite useful for
correcting those who, for some bizarre reason, think that evolution
and religious belief are mutually exclusive.

Then, if you were already posting it, it should've been a boring topic
to you or one that you welcomed without comment. Do you routinely post
in argument to topics you agree to on these groups? Also, it is funny
that you choose to speak for the whole group of repliers. Are they you
with other usernames? One cannot help but find it funny that this
topic that is a non-story (as some here claim) got 20 replies, while
Buckeye's and other people's news posts (which...I'll assume...are
considered a worthy story) got no replies. Or, is it that Buckeye has
worn out his welcome?
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 03 May 2006 01:17:45 PM
In article <1146623910.954176.282310@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146618455.299838.108670@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146593269.438763.316270@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

____________________________________________________________

Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in God
and try to convince others not to either...

What difference does it make to them?

They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to Him
when they die.


Indeed. When a story that some scientists believe causes an uproar, it
reveals that atheists are not content with disbelief in themselves but
ensuring no one has the choice to disagree.



Really? What story, and what uproar?

On the off chance that it's THIS story you're talking about, please
recall that the "uproar" I responded with was to remind you
that I have said this very same thing on this in at least
five different threads: that half of biologists, more or less,
are believers, and that this demonstrates the obvious fact that
one can accept both God and evolution with no congnitive dissonance.

Or did I just try to ensure that you have no choice to disagree again?


-- cary


And this non-important, irrelevant story got so much response
because.... Careful, your prejudice is showing.



"non-important"? "irrelevant"?

If I thought that, why would I have posted exactly the same
thing, time after time after time, and long before you had
ever heard of it? I have always thought it's quite useful for
correcting those who, for some bizarre reason, think that evolution
and religious belief are mutually exclusive.


Then, if you were already posting it, it should've been a boring topic
to you or one that you welcomed without comment. Do you routinely post
in argument to topics you agree to on these groups?

Oh, my comment was on the delicious irony of you, with your history
of sniping at the idea of evolution, finally noticing that biologists --
supporters of evolution almost to a man (and woman) -- are also
quite frequently Christian.

Also, it is funny
that you choose to speak for the whole group of repliers. Are they you
with other usernames?

Oh, that "Careful, your prejudice is showing" was quite clearly
directed at me, not at the group in general.
And I repeat -- because you keep finding ways to evade --
what "prejudice" am I displaying?
-- cary
.
User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 03 May 2006 01:28:15 PM
Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146623910.954176.282310@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146618455.299838.108670@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146593269.438763.316270@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

____________________________________________________________

Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in God
and try to convince others not to either...

What difference does it make to them?

They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to Him
when they die.


Indeed. When a story that some scientists believe causes an uproar, it
reveals that atheists are not content with disbelief in themselves but
ensuring no one has the choice to disagree.



Really? What story, and what uproar?

On the off chance that it's THIS story you're talking about, please
recall that the "uproar" I responded with was to remind you
that I have said this very same thing on this in at least
five different threads: that half of biologists, more or less,
are believers, and that this demonstrates the obvious fact that
one can accept both God and evolution with no congnitive dissonance.

Or did I just try to ensure that you have no choice to disagree again?


-- cary


And this non-important, irrelevant story got so much response
because.... Careful, your prejudice is showing.



"non-important"? "irrelevant"?

If I thought that, why would I have posted exactly the same
thing, time after time after time, and long before you had
ever heard of it? I have always thought it's quite useful for
correcting those who, for some bizarre reason, think that evolution
and religious belief are mutually exclusive.


Then, if you were already posting it, it should've been a boring topic
to you or one that you welcomed without comment. Do you routinely post
in argument to topics you agree to on these groups?


Oh, my comment was on the delicious irony of you, with your history
of sniping at the idea of evolution, finally noticing that biologists --
supporters of evolution almost to a man (and woman) -- are also
quite frequently Christian.


Also, it is funny
that you choose to speak for the whole group of repliers. Are they you
with other usernames?


Oh, that "Careful, your prejudice is showing" was quite clearly
directed at me, not at the group in general.

And I repeat -- because you keep finding ways to evade --
what "prejudice" am I displaying?

You assume, of course, that I feel the need to answer a fool according
to his folly. Ask again...I'll evade again. I don't need to waste my
time with it.
I find it funny that so many atheists call Christians stupid and
foolish to believe. What does that make the person who dedicates all
their time to debating a foolish ignorant person?
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 03 May 2006 01:38:46 PM
In article <1146680895.911081.178880@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146623910.954176.282310@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146618455.299838.108670@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146593269.438763.316270@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

____________________________________________________________

Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in God
and try to convince others not to either...

What difference does it make to them?

They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to Him
when they die.


Indeed. When a story that some scientists believe causes an uproar, it
reveals that atheists are not content with disbelief in themselves but
ensuring no one has the choice to disagree.



Really? What story, and what uproar?

On the off chance that it's THIS story you're talking about, please
recall that the "uproar" I responded with was to remind you
that I have said this very same thing on this in at least
five different threads: that half of biologists, more or less,
are believers, and that this demonstrates the obvious fact that
one can accept both God and evolution with no congnitive dissonance.

Or did I just try to ensure that you have no choice to disagree again?


-- cary


And this non-important, irrelevant story got so much response
because.... Careful, your prejudice is showing.



"non-important"? "irrelevant"?

If I thought that, why would I have posted exactly the same
thing, time after time after time, and long before you had
ever heard of it? I have always thought it's quite useful for
correcting those who, for some bizarre reason, think that evolution
and religious belief are mutually exclusive.


Then, if you were already posting it, it should've been a boring topic
to you or one that you welcomed without comment. Do you routinely post
in argument to topics you agree to on these groups?


Oh, my comment was on the delicious irony of you, with your history
of sniping at the idea of evolution, finally noticing that biologists --
supporters of evolution almost to a man (and woman) -- are also
quite frequently Christian.


Also, it is funny
that you choose to speak for the whole group of repliers. Are they you
with other usernames?


Oh, that "Careful, your prejudice is showing" was quite clearly
directed at me, not at the group in general.

And I repeat -- because you keep finding ways to evade --
what "prejudice" am I displaying?


You assume, of course, that I feel the need to answer a fool according
to his folly. Ask again...I'll evade again. I don't need to waste my
time with it.

Did anyone ever tell you you're just so damn CUTE when you're busted
and trying to save face?


I find it funny that so many atheists call Christians stupid and
foolish to believe. What does that make the person who dedicates all
their time to debating a foolish ignorant person?

In my case, damn cheerful for much of the morning.
-- cary
.
User: "Wide Eyed in Wonder"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 03 May 2006 01:48:51 PM
Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146680895.911081.178880@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146623910.954176.282310@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146618455.299838.108670@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146593269.438763.316270@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

____________________________________________________________

Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in God
and try to convince others not to either...

What difference does it make to them?

They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to Him
when they die.


Indeed. When a story that some scientists believe causes an uproar, it
reveals that atheists are not content with disbelief in themselves but
ensuring no one has the choice to disagree.



Really? What story, and what uproar?

On the off chance that it's THIS story you're talking about, please
recall that the "uproar" I responded with was to remind you
that I have said this very same thing on this in at least
five different threads: that half of biologists, more or less,
are believers, and that this demonstrates the obvious fact that
one can accept both God and evolution with no congnitive dissonance.

Or did I just try to ensure that you have no choice to disagree again?


-- cary


And this non-important, irrelevant story got so much response
because.... Careful, your prejudice is showing.



"non-important"? "irrelevant"?

If I thought that, why would I have posted exactly the same
thing, time after time after time, and long before you had
ever heard of it? I have always thought it's quite useful for
correcting those who, for some bizarre reason, think that evolution
and religious belief are mutually exclusive.


Then, if you were already posting it, it should've been a boring topic
to you or one that you welcomed without comment. Do you routinely post
in argument to topics you agree to on these groups?


Oh, my comment was on the delicious irony of you, with your history
of sniping at the idea of evolution, finally noticing that biologists --
supporters of evolution almost to a man (and woman) -- are also
quite frequently Christian.


Also, it is funny
that you choose to speak for the whole group of repliers. Are they you
with other usernames?


Oh, that "Careful, your prejudice is showing" was quite clearly
directed at me, not at the group in general.

And I repeat -- because you keep finding ways to evade --
what "prejudice" am I displaying?


You assume, of course, that I feel the need to answer a fool according
to his folly. Ask again...I'll evade again. I don't need to waste my
time with it.


Did anyone ever tell you you're just so damn CUTE when you're busted
and trying to save face?


I find it funny that so many atheists call Christians stupid and
foolish to believe. What does that make the person who dedicates all
their time to debating a foolish ignorant person?


In my case, damn cheerful for much of the morning.


-- cary

Ahhh, got it...make false charges, claim victory, and attack the
(perceived) weak. I understand now. You're a bully.
Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 03 May 2006 02:00:20 PM
"Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com>



Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146680895.911081.178880@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


Cary Kittrell wrote:

{...}

And I repeat -- because you keep finding ways to evade --
what "prejudice" am I displaying?


You assume, of course, that I feel the need to answer a fool according
to his folly. Ask again...I'll evade again. I don't need to waste my
time with it.


Did anyone ever tell you you're just so damn CUTE when you're busted
and trying to save face?


I find it funny that so many atheists call Christians stupid and
foolish to believe. What does that make the person who dedicates all
their time to debating a foolish ignorant person?


In my case, damn cheerful for much of the morning.


-- cary


Ahhh, got it...make false charges, claim victory, and attack the
(perceived) weak. I understand now. You're a bully.

"False charges"? What, pray tell, were those?
-- cary
.





User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 03 May 2006 02:34:37 AM
On Tue, 2 May 2006 21:38:30 -0500, Wide Eyed in Wonder wrote
(in article <1146623910.954176.282310@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>):


Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146618455.299838.108670@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146593269.438763.316270@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

____________________________________________________________

Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in God
and try to convince others not to either...

What difference does it make to them?

They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to Him
when they die.


Indeed. When a story that some scientists believe causes an uproar, it
reveals that atheists are not content with disbelief in themselves but
ensuring no one has the choice to disagree.



Really? What story, and what uproar?

On the off chance that it's THIS story you're talking about, please
recall that the "uproar" I responded with was to remind you
that I have said this very same thing on this in at least
five different threads: that half of biologists, more or less,
are believers, and that this demonstrates the obvious fact that
one can accept both God and evolution with no congnitive dissonance.

Or did I just try to ensure that you have no choice to disagree again?


-- cary


And this non-important, irrelevant story got so much response
because.... Careful, your prejudice is showing.



"non-important"? "irrelevant"?

If I thought that, why would I have posted exactly the same
thing, time after time after time, and long before you had
ever heard of it? I have always thought it's quite useful for
correcting those who, for some bizarre reason, think that evolution
and religious belief are mutually exclusive.


Then, if you were already posting it, it should've been a boring topic
to you or one that you welcomed without comment.

Why should a remark to you posting something Cary has said a number of times
be boring? Just because you are boring and your attention span is,
apparently, restricted only to your original, witty, stinging remarks and
your arrogance and hubris only make you appear to be a whining ninny when, in
reality, you are a snotty little kid with bad manners and no breeding,
shouldn't stand in the way of your attempts at making Jesus look like a fool.

Do you routinely post
in argument to topics you agree to on these groups?

Did you learn English from John "Stumpy" Knight? Even in your area, I'm sure
there are G.E.D. programs where you could learn English - at the very minimum
- on an eighth grade level.

Also, it is funny

You don't seem amused, though. You appear quite defensive.

that you choose to speak for the whole group of repliers.

Here we go with Area 51 Alien English again [sigh]. That ["you choose to
speak for the whole group of repliers"] is a totally asinine statement that -
while, possibly, made sense in your native Gibber - is - in English - simply
strange.
By the way, if you pay close attention and keep a dictionary handy, you can
learn English quite well by reading.

Are they you
with other usernames?

Uh, Porkey; you're the one who keeps changing "usernames". Bad try, young
"fool" or "kenneth" or "wide eyed with optical problems" or whatever
"username" you're using this week.

One cannot help but find it funny that this
topic that is a non-story

What "non-story"? That there really are some pretty rational Christians with
minds and they accept the Holy Trinity, believe in it totally and find
"creationism" an insult to both their religion and their intelligence?
But, then, you're better than they are - or that is what you seem to be
saying.
With your usual "holier than thou" arrogance. You don't have the moral
strength to drive the nails but you sure don't have any trouble spitting in
Jesus' face.

(as some here claim) got 20 replies,

Idiocy draws replies.

while
Buckeye's and other people's news posts (which...I'll assume...are
considered a worthy story) got no replies. Or, is it that Buckeye has
worn out his welcome?

"worn out his welcome"?
You are one stupid, asinine, corrupt and arrogant peckerhead.
You need to see a proctologist so that you can see a psychiatrist. The
proctologist needs to pull your head out of your ***** so the shrink can see if
there's anything inside your head.
Oh, I'm still curious about the "many awards" you "earned" in the military.
What were they?
You do know that anyone may get a person's military record (usually called
"the public 201 file") simply by filling out a little FOIA form and sending
it to DoD?
Like with me, "Gray Shockley" and "Vicksburg, Mississippi" would prolly be
enough to let you glimpse the assignments, education, awards - I don't know
about test scores - GT etc - but it'd be pretty boring. [I may have to get
the public one on me just to see what /is/ on it.]
"False witness" is worse than no "witness"
even if it contributes to your ego.
Gray Shockley
--------------------------------------
I will break down the doors of hell,
and bring up the dead.
- Lois McMaster Bujold

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

.


User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: Study Shows Most Scientists Believe in God 03 May 2006 01:43:38 AM
On Tue, 2 May 2006 20:29:45 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article <e39129$jum$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>):

In article <1146618455.299838.108670@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> "Wide Eyed
in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


Cary Kittrell wrote:

In article <1146593269.438763.316270@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> writes:


IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:

In article <1146504944.129981.152550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Wide
Eyed in Wonder" <kands00@hotmail.com> wrote:

According to a new study that can be referenced here...

http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

...most scientists do, in fact, believe in God. Of couse they would,
they study His creation. Among the findings of the study...

...62 percent of natural scientists believe in God (59 percent of
Biologists do).
...69 percent of social scientists believe in God.

Also, a separate study referenced at the site reveals that 76 percent
of doctors believe in God.

Ken Clifton
http://www.lulu.com/writingken

____________________________________________________________

Hey, Ken, look at all the same ones who posted who don't believe in God
and try to convince others not to either...

What difference does it make to them?

They are really fearful that there IS a God and they will answer to Him
when they die.


Indeed. When a story that some scientists believe causes an uproar, it
reveals that atheists are not content with disbelief in themselves but
ensuring no one has the choice to disagree.



Really? What story, and what uproar?

On the off chance that it's THIS story you're talking about, please
recall that the "uproar" I responded with was to remind you
that I have said this very same thing on this in at least
five different threads: that half of biologists, more or less,
are believers, and that this demonstrates the obvious fact that
one can accept both God and evolution with no congnitive dissonance.

Or did I just try to ensure that you have no choice to disagree again?


-- cary


And this non-important, irrelevant story got so much response
because.... Careful, your prejudice is showing.



"non-important"? "irrelevant"?

If I thought that, why would I have posted exactly the same
thing, time after time after time, and long before you had
ever heard of it? I have always thought it's quite useful for
correcting those who, for some bizarre reason, think that evolution
and religious belief are mutually exclusive.

And -- and I do expect an answer to this -- what "prejudice"
of mine have I displayed by so frequently bringing up the fact
that so many practicing biologists are believers?


-- cary


You think "facts" are more important than young Kenneth's spur-of-the-moment
uncorrectable hallucinogenic visions from one of His "invisible friend" guys.
I suppose that Weary Kenneth has given a citation before but I think I was
sick that day.
"ex cathedra from Kenneth's navel" comes to mind.
Gray Shockley
------------------
It is better to live on your feet
than to die on your knees.
- Robert Anson Heinlein
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