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Ten Commandments Day Brings Up Separation Debate |
Ten Commandments Day Brings Up Separation Debate
http://www.kq2.com/news/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=3321
KQTV - St. Joseph,MO,USA
Ten Commandments Day Brings Up Separation Debate
( Air Date: 5/7/2006 )
Two Christian groups with similar names but very different agenda`s are
celebrating the first annual "Ten Commandments Day." The debate is raising
questions about separation of church and state.
The group called the Ten Commandments Mission emphasizes religious freedom
and the separation of church and state. Even though he`s not a mission
member, Christian Dean Mausolf understands the groups intent. Mausolf said,
"That`s why our four fathers came to this country. They came for freedom of
religion because of the lack of that separation. We have lots of citizens
who are different religions who are all patriotic americans so patriotism
isn`t just Christian. My faith is based on my faith in Jesus Christ."
Fellow christian david miller feels the same way. "An Atheist has the right
to practice that just like I have the right to practice my christianity."
The pledge of allegiance and even the dollar bill can raise questions about
how much separation there really is and Miller says that separation can get
confusing. Miller said, "As far as I know every senate session is opened
with prayer but I`m told my kids can`t pray in school and I kind of
question that." Wyatt Park Christian Church Pastor Scott Killgore says
that`s because the founding fathers sought separation for a different
reason than what it`s being used for today. Killgore said, "I think what`s
happened unfortunately is that we have taken the concept of freedom of
religion and turned it into freedom from religion."
Another organization, Ten commandments Commission wants to peacefully
restore the word of god into every aspect of society, including
legislation. A dividing line for many Christians who say it depends on how
it`s done. Miller said, "I think there`s a lot of places where religion is
excluded and no matter what religion you practice it could really help to
use those morals when making a decision." Killgore agrees that individuals
shouldn`t exclude their religion from their decision making but is wary of
religion as an institution. "When the religion also becomes the state that
gets pretty dangerous and I could not advocate that."
The one thing the Mission, Commission, and many local Christians can agree
on is the Commandments themselves. Killgore said, "If we actually lived
those we`d be amazed about how well society would work." Both the Ten
Commandment Mission and Ten Commandment Commission plan to push their
agendas in various events across the United States.
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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| User: "Bob LeChevalier" |
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| Title: Re: Ten Commandments Day Brings Up Separation Debate |
09 May 2006 01:59:23 PM |
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wrote:
Ten Commandments Day Brings Up Separation Debate
http://www.kq2.com/news/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=3321
KQTV - St. Joseph,MO,USA
Ten Commandments Day Brings Up Separation Debate
( Air Date: 5/7/2006 )
Two Christian groups with similar names but very different agenda`s are
celebrating the first annual "Ten Commandments Day." The debate is raising
questions about separation of church and state.
The group called the Ten Commandments Mission emphasizes religious freedom
and the separation of church and state. Even though he`s not a mission
member, Christian Dean Mausolf understands the groups intent. Mausolf said,
"That`s why our four fathers came to this country.
I REALLY hope that isn't what the guy said %^)
lojbab
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Ten Commandments Day Brings Up Separation Debate |
11 May 2006 09:47:30 AM |
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Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
:|buckeye-elo@nospam.net wrote:
:|>Ten Commandments Day Brings Up Separation Debate
:|>http://www.kq2.com/news/default.asp?mode=shownews&id=3321
:|>KQTV - St. Joseph,MO,USA
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:|>Ten Commandments Day Brings Up Separation Debate
:|>( Air Date: 5/7/2006 )
:|>Two Christian groups with similar names but very different agenda`s are
:|>celebrating the first annual "Ten Commandments Day." The debate is raising
:|>questions about separation of church and state.
:|>
:|>The group called the Ten Commandments Mission emphasizes religious freedom
:|>and the separation of church and state. Even though he`s not a mission
:|>member, Christian Dean Mausolf understands the groups intent. Mausolf said,
:|>"That`s why our four fathers came to this country.
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:|I REALLY hope that isn't what the guy said %^)
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:|lojbab
I agree. It is but another example of how history ignorant the American
public is.
I bet he was thinking of the Beatles because everyone who knows history
knows there were FIVE fathers. :O)
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