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09 Sep 2006 06:30:27 AM |
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The ACLU: A bunch of theocrats? |
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51793
[excerpt]
WND Exclusive Commentary The ACLU: A bunch of theocrats?
by Pat Boone
Posted: September 2, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern
Think about it a minute.
Compare the concept of democracy – where individuals may speak and act and
express their faith according to their own understandings – with theocracy,
where an elite few dictate what all individuals can and cannot say, do or
express concerning their beliefs.
Think Iran.
Think Ahmadinejad and his coterie of Islamist extremists, exercising total
control over the oil giant nation, funding and arming Hezbollah,
orchestrating much of the inhuman violence in Iraq, promoting and
supporting Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida and terrorist murder around the
world, actively and defiantly preparing nuclear capability while at the
same time maintaining an absolute dictatorship over the religious practices
– even expressed public opinions – of Iran's millions of citizens.
Not a pretty picture, is it?
Now think ACLU.
Think a relatively small, but highly organized group of lawyers, rather
extravagantly funded by ultraliberal donors, overtly defending and
promoting activities and "progressive" judges' rulings that are very
offensive to the majority of Americans. Think of a little group who portray
themselves as "defenders" of civil liberties, who increasingly and
arrogantly intimidate elected officials into defying the expressed wishes
of the majority and thereby deprive them of civil liberties!
Think an elitist coterie who twist and redefine the expressed intentions of
the framers of the Constitution in order to defend anarchists, pedophiles,
sworn enemies of our nation, aberrant sexual practices, blasphemies of all
kinds and attacks on our hallowed institutions – and who at the same time
proceed against every kind of public expression of faith or religion,
always misappropriating a phrase not even in our Constitution, "separation
of church and state."
Think an unregulated, self-appointed group who openly intend to control and
dictate not only what individual citizens can do and say, whenever they
choose, but who infiltrate our courts so they can legislate from the
judicial bench – and even tell our democratically elected representatives
what they must do! Think a renegade group openly hostile, not only to
Christianity in particular, but to long cherished Judeo-Christian
principles in general, unarguably principles on which our society was
founded. Think a group determined to erase any and every reference to God,
the Bible or Christian teaching – even voluntary public prayer in any
non-church venue – from American life!
Think theocratic dictatorship.
[end excerpt]
Pat Boone, descendent of the legendary pioneer Daniel Boone, has been a
top-selling recording artist, the star of his own hit TV series, a movie
star, a Broadway headliner, and a best-selling author in a career that has
spanned half a century. During the classic rock & roll era of the 1950s, he
sold more records than any artist except Elvis Presley. To learn more about
Pat, please visit his website.
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
***************************************************************
.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The ACLU: A bunch of theocrats? |
10 Sep 2006 05:09:44 AM |
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Mickey <mickey_and_edith@nomorephishsbcglobal.net> wrote:
:|Actually, the appeals made by conservative groups to the ACLU are not
:|made with any hope of assistance. They are done to illustrate the
:|fundamental hypocrisy and dishonesty of the ACLU. The ACLU in mock
:|defense will point to support of the most idiotic right wing fringe
:|groups it has supported, but it has a much more difficult time pointing
:|to any merely conservative causes it has championed.
:|
:|Mickey
The ACLU doesn't "champion" ideology.
http://www.aclu.org/about/index.html
The American system of government is founded on two counterbalancing
principles: that the majority of the people governs, through democratically
elected representatives; and that the power even of a democratic majority
must be limited, to ensure individual rights.
Majority power is limited by the Constitution's Bill of Rights, which
consists of the original ten amendments ratified in 1791, plus the three
post-Civil War amendments (the 13th, 14th and 15th) and the 19th Amendment
(women's suffrage), adopted in 1920.
The mission of the ACLU is to preserve all of these protections and
guarantees:
* Your First Amendment rights-freedom of speech, association and
assembly. Freedom of the press, and freedom of religion supported by the
strict separation of church and state.
* Your right to equal protection under the law - equal treatment
regardless of race, sex, religion or national origin.
* Your right to due process - fair treatment by the government whenever
the loss of your liberty or property is at stake.
* Your right to privacy - freedom from unwarranted government intrusion
into your personal and private affairs.
We work also to extend rights to segments of our population that have
traditionally been denied their rights, including Native Americans and
other people of color; lesbians, gay men, bisexuals and transgendered
people; women; mental-health patients; prisoners; people with disabilities;
and the poor.
If the rights of society's most vulnerable members are denied, everybody's
rights are imperiled.
The ACLU was founded by Roger Baldwin, Crystal Eastman, Albert DeSilver and
others in 1920. We are nonprofit and nonpartisan and have grown from a
roomful of civil liberties activists to an organization of more than
500,000 members and supporters. We handle nearly 6,000 court cases annually
from our offices in almost every state.
The ACLU has maintained the position that civil liberties must be
respected, even in times of national emergency. The ACLU is supported by
annual dues and contributions from its members, plus grants from private
foundations and individuals. We do not receive any government funding.
Learn more about joining the ACLU.
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
***************************************************************
.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
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| User: "Roedy Green" |
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| Title: Re: The ACLU: A bunch of theocrats? |
13 Sep 2006 05:16:26 PM |
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On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:30:27 -0400, wrote,
quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
Think theocratic dictatorship.
You are being deliberately vague. I presume you are talking about
abortion. That is an issue that transcends religion.
Last I heard the law of the land permitted it. Congress has not seen
to change that. So it makes sense to uphold the law until it is
changed.
It will change when a majority of people think the evils of
prohibition will be worth the emotional satisfaction of being able to
punish mothers for killing their fetuses.
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green, http://mindprod.com
See links to the Lebanon photos that Google censored at
http://mindprod.com/politics/israel.html
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: The ACLU: A bunch of theocrats? |
14 Sep 2006 12:40:44 PM |
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Roedy Green <see_website@mindprod.com.invalid> wrote:
:|On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:30:27 -0400, wrote,
:|quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said :
:|
:|>Think theocratic dictatorship.
:|
:|You are being deliberately vague. I presume you are talking about
:|abortion.
Why presume I provided a URL to the entire article. Read if for youirself
or is that too complicated for you
Here just for you,
Read slow so you can grasp it
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51793
[excerpt]
WND Exclusive Commentary The ACLU: A bunch of theocrats?
by Pat Boone
Posted: September 2, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern
Think about it a minute.
Compare the concept of democracy – where individuals may speak and act and
express their faith according to their own understandings – with theocracy,
where an elite few dictate what all individuals can and cannot say, do or
express concerning their beliefs.
Think Iran.
Think Ahmadinejad and his coterie of Islamist extremists, exercising total
control over the oil giant nation, funding and arming Hezbollah,
orchestrating much of the inhuman violence in Iraq, promoting and
supporting Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida and terrorist murder around the
world, actively and defiantly preparing nuclear capability while at the
same time maintaining an absolute dictatorship over the religious practices
– even expressed public opinions – of Iran's millions of citizens.
Not a pretty picture, is it?
Now think ACLU.
Think a relatively small, but highly organized group of lawyers, rather
extravagantly funded by ultraliberal donors, overtly defending and
promoting activities and "progressive" judges' rulings that are very
offensive to the majority of Americans. Think of a little group who portray
themselves as "defenders" of civil liberties, who increasingly and
arrogantly intimidate elected officials into defying the expressed wishes
of the majority and thereby deprive them of civil liberties!
Think an elitist coterie who twist and redefine the expressed intentions of
the framers of the Constitution in order to defend anarchists, pedophiles,
sworn enemies of our nation, aberrant sexual practices, blasphemies of all
kinds and attacks on our hallowed institutions – and who at the same time
proceed against every kind of public expression of faith or religion,
always misappropriating a phrase not even in our Constitution, "separation
of church and state."
Think an unregulated, self-appointed group who openly intend to control and
dictate not only what individual citizens can do and say, whenever they
choose, but who infiltrate our courts so they can legislate from the
judicial bench – and even tell our democratically elected representatives
what they must do! Think a renegade group openly hostile, not only to
Christianity in particular, but to long cherished Judeo-Christian
principles in general, unarguably principles on which our society was
founded. Think a group determined to erase any and every reference to God,
the Bible or Christian teaching – even voluntary public prayer in any
non-church venue – from American life!
Think theocratic dictatorship.
[end excerpt]
Pat Boone, descendent of the legendary pioneer Daniel Boone, has been a
top-selling recording artist, the star of his own hit TV series, a movie
star, a Broadway headliner, and a best-selling author in a career that has
spanned half a century. During the classic rock & roll era of the 1950s, he
sold more records than any artist except Elvis Presley. To learn more about
Pat, please visit his website.
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
***************************************************************
.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
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