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THE FEDERALIST - "...[T]he prewar debate wasn't about whether Saddam Hussein had a nuclear weapon, but how to keep him from getting one |
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21 July 2003
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CONTENTS:
The Foundation
Insight
ICTUS Imprimis
Family
Culture
Liberty
The Gipper
Opinion in Brief
Government
Re: The Left
Political Futures
For the Record
Reader Comments
The Last Word
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THE FOUNDATION
"It is not honorable to take mere legal advantage, when it happens
to be contrary to justice." --Thomas Jefferson
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INSIGHT
"He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a
fool...shun him. He who knows not, and knows that he knows not,
is willing...teach him. He who knows, and knows not that he knows,
is asleep...awaken him. He who knows, and knows that he knows,
is wise...follow him." --Chinese proverb
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ICTUS IMPRIMIS
"That which is now called the Christian religion existed among
the ancients, and never did not exist from the planting of
the human race until Christ came in the flesh, at which time
the true religion which already existed began to be called
Christianity." --St. Augustine
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FAMILY
"This just in: Children of divorce do better when both parents
live in the same general vicinity. Stunning, I know. So go
the findings of 'new research' into divorce trends and their
effects on children. When it takes 'new research' to confirm
the obvious, we might figure we've run out of things to explore.
And yet, what's obvious apparently isn't so obvious anymore.
What should be clear without succumbing to Freud's couch is that
children need and deserve both parents, a mother and a father.
I realize heterosexual unions have lost some of their luster,
but there it is. The original plan." --Kathleen Parker
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CULTURE
"Offering secular critiques of theology is business for
fools, of course, and ordinarily only fools deliberately
step between preachers going at each other. Some of the most
thrilling spectacles of my childhood, in fact, were the monthly
congregational business meetings at my church when the deacons
raged in hot pursuit of the pastor, usually over something
trivial. Nothing at the dozen Democratic National Conventions I've
covered has ever come close to the savagery of country Baptists
at each other's throats. But none of them ever commandeered an
airliner and flew it into an office tower." --Wes Pruden
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LIBERTY
"We need to let the Iraqis form a provisional government now,
not months or years from now. There was a constitutional
government in Iraq before Saddam. There can't be an agreement
on a new constitution immediately, so we should get the free
Iraqi leaders to agree to some version of the old one, have them
sign it as a temporary document with a fixed expiration date.
Then help them craft their new one by that date. Publish a real
road map to democracy, and assure them that no matter how long the
fugitive Saddamites fight, we won't pull out until Iraq can stand
on its own feet. We lost Vietnam for many reasons, but one of
the top two was that we published deadlines for our withdrawal.
We need to make sure that the enemies of freedom know we won't
leave before it's time. And those messages need to get out to
Iraq." --Jed Babbin
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THE GIPPER
"I firmly believe that history will record our era as one
of peace and global prosperity. However, our task is far
from over. Our friends in the other party will never forgive
us for our success and are doing everything in their power to
rewrite history. Listening to the liberals, you'd think that the
1980s were the worst period since the Great Depression -- filled
with greed and despair. Well, you and I know better than that.
Although the political landscape has changed, the bold ideas of
the 1980s are alive and well. Republican candidates swept every
major election across the country last year. From New York to
Texas -- from New Jersey to my home state of California. And as
a result, it seems that our opponents have finally realized how
unpopular liberalism really is. So now, they're trying to dress
their liberal agenda in a conservative overcoat. After watching
the State of the Union address the other night, I'm reminded of
the old adage that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Only in this case, it's not flattery, but grand larceny -- the
intellectual theft of ideas that you and I recognize as our own.
Speech delivery counts for little on the world stage unless you
have convictions and, yes, the vision to see beyond the front
row seats. The Democrats may remember their lines, but how
quickly they forget the lessons of the past. I have witnessed
five major wars in my lifetime, and I know how swiftly storm clouds
can gather on a peaceful horizon. The next time a Saddam Hussein
takes over a Kuwait, or North Korea brandishes a nuclear weapon,
will we be ready to respond?" --Ronald Reagan (1994)
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OPINION IN BRIEF
"...[T]he prewar debate wasn't about whether Saddam Hussein
had a nuclear weapon, but how to keep him from getting one. He
didn't. Mission accomplished. It's no surprise that only
circumstantial evidence of other weapons of mass destruction --
the chemical and biological kind -- have been found so far in
Iraq. As Colin Powell told the United Nations back in February,
Saddam's weapons programs were deliberately designed to avoid
detection. Of course, they haven't been easy to detect. But
it's not just George W. Bush that his critics are unhappy with.
They're disappointed in the American people -- who don't seem
much bothered by this president's decision to go to war and
his determination to win it in short order. Any more than they
blamed Franklin Roosevelt for developing a terrible weapon,
or Harry Truman for using it. Even if, as it turned out, the
threat of Hitler's having an atomic bomb was never imminent.
Maybe the American people intuitively understand some things
that reflexive critics of American presidents don't. Like the
need to confront a growing danger before it becomes an imminent
threat.... The administration's critics can't offer any realistic
alternative to its worldwide offensive against terror. All
they can propose is drift under some other name -- containment,
multilateralism. Any high-sounding euphemism for inaction will
do. They invite a devastation and call it peace. Once again the
straw men multiply, arguing for drift over mastery, doubt over
faith, for anything but action, risk, sacrifice, for anything
but a forward strategy that takes this war to the enemy. Instead,
the straw men just rustle in the wind." --Paul Greenberg
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GOVERNMENT
"In order for you and me to receive Social Security benefits,
we have to pay taxes into the system for 10 years or 40 quarters.
Those who come here from India on H-1B visas are allowed to work
here for three years and get one three-year extension, for a total
of six years -- but that's not 10 years! 'Totalization' is the
bureaucratic buzzword to describe executive agreements to give
foreigners employed in the United States Social Security benefits
to which they are not entitled. A similar 'totalization' plan
is now cooking in our State Department to give Social Security
benefits to Mexican aliens, even if they are in our country
illegally. Totalization makes sense only if you understand that
the goal is to force U.S. taxpayers to subsidize the scandalous
practice whereby multinational corporations hire cheap foreign
labor to replace American workers. This makes even better sense
when you understand that the big contributors to politicians
are corporations and their executives, not U.S. workers who are
laid off.... President Bush and members of Congress, are you
listening?" --Phyllis Schlafly
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RE: THE LEFT
"...[T]here is only one way for Hard-Left, or 'Progressive'
Democrats to win national office. They must hide their true
Hard-Left agenda and pretend to be something else. This is
exactly what happened in 1992. While Bill Clinton campaigned as a
centrist Democrat, Hard-Left Hillary planned the implementation
of Socialist policies and programs, gleeful at the possibility
that her husband might win.... Many of my political associates
have studied the Clinton administration and are convinced it
was a 'Trojan Horse' presidency. Bill Clinton was the apparent
candidate, while Hillary Clinton was Bill's political advisor
and planner. There is plenty of evidence to prove that Hillary
was the real power behind the throne. Are we to expect that Al
From [of the DLC] and his successor, Bruce Reed will now confess
that in order to elect Hard-Left Democrats to national office, you
must first cloak them in 'centrist' garb? Don't hold your breath.
Democrats must cover their agenda because Americans do not like
their policies. If Hard-Left Democrats want to win, they know they
will have to lie. Heartland Americans cherish their freedom and
love this country. They are not about to knowingly travel the
road toward hard-Socialism. However, eight years of Clintonian
lies prove that Heartland Democrats are hopeless saps when it comes
to recognizing the truth about their own leaders." --Gary Aldrich
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POLITICAL FUTURES
"The so-called conservative movement of the last 20 years,
starting with the Reagan revolution of the 1980s, followed by the
1994 Gingrich takeover of the House, and culminating in the early
2000s with Republican control of both Congress and the White House,
seems a terrible failure today. Republicans have failed utterly to
shrink the size of government; instead it is bigger and costlier
than ever before. Federal spending spirals out of control,
new Great Society social welfare programs have been created,
and the national debt is rising by more than a half-trillion
dollars per year. Whatever happened to the conservative vision
supposedly sweeping the nation?" --Ron Paul
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FOR THE RECORD
"By 1940 the literacy figure for all states stood at 96 percent for
whites. Eighty percent for blacks. Notice for all the disadvantages
blacks labored under, four of five were still literate. Six decades
later, at the end of the 20th century, the National Adult Literacy
Survey and the National Assessment of Educational Progress say 40
percent of blacks and 17 percent of whites can't read at all. Put
another way, black illiteracy doubled, white illiteracy quadrupled,
despite the fact that we spend three or four times as much real
money on schooling as we did 60 years ago." --Vin Suprynowicz
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SELECT READER COMMENTS
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"You would be doing me and all Federalist readers a great service
by never mentioning 'Bull O'Reilly' again in your fine publication.
If he is a conservative, I'm a starship pilot."
"O'Reilly is nothing more than a self-aggrandizing charlatan. No
thinking conservative, who paused to consider the contradictions
of this quintessential factor-less 'spinner,' would see him
for anything more. Though O'Reilly gives lip service to some
conservative ideas, he mostly gives lip service to himself --
so caveat emptor!"
"Regarding the Constitutional "right to privacy": In Griswold
the court said there was a 'right to privacy' in the 'auras and
penumbras of the Bill of Rights' based upon the traditional view
of what married men and women choose to do in the privacy of the
'marital bedroom.' [It addresses the Conn. law against using birth
control.] The opinion and rights specifically addressed and were
limited to: The conduct engaged in by lawfully married men and
women in the privacy of their own bedrooms. It was never meant to
apply to anyone other than them. The opinion was not wrong, or bad
law, it merely referred to a fundamental principle of established
British common law and the old Anglo-Saxon law which preceded it.
Since that time, the courts have misused that opinion as a basis to
improperly extend the law, to permit: single unwed mothers under
the age of 18 (minors) to have abortions, unmarried heterosexual
'couples' to have the same rights (but not responsibilities)
or married couples, public displays of overtly sexual behavior
and acts, and now consenting homosexual conduct. Griswold
v. Connecticut is not a sham case; the sham is judicial activism
further socio-political agendas instead of applying established
United States constitutional authorities and principles."
"Re: Nevada Judges, 03-29 Digest asks, 'But what to do when judges
refuse to be bound by constitutions?' Nevada is still a republic,
isn't it? When the Leftjudiciary starts setting aside portions
of the duly ratified Nevada Constitution, all of them should be
impeached."
Editor's Reply: And the U.S. legislative branch could use some
of that advice!
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THE LAST WORD
And last, this item from Craig Bozman in the Washington Post: "Of
all people, Sen. Robert C. Byrd (D-W.Va.) called President Bush's
carrier landing and subsequent speech 'flamboyant showmanship.'
Of course, Mr. Byrd should know about flamboyant showmanship. After
all, his home state has several things named after him, including:
The Robert C. Byrd Highway; the Robert C. Byrd Locks and Dam;
the Robert C. Byrd Institute; the Robert C. Byrd Life Long
Learning Center; the Robert C. Byrd Honors Scholarship Program;
the Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope; the Robert C. Byrd
Institute for Advanced Flexible Manufacturing; the Robert C. Byrd
Federal Courthouse; the Robert C. Byrd Health Sciences Center; the
Robert C. Byrd Academic and Technology Center; the Robert C. Byrd
United Technical Center; the Robert C. Byrd Federal Building; the
Robert C. Byrd Drive; the Robert C. Byrd Hilltop Office Complex;
the Robert C. Byrd Library; the Robert C. Byrd Learning Resource
Center; and the Robert C. Byrd Rural Health Center. Sort of
reminds you of all the statues, pictures and images of Saddam
Hussein in Iraq, doesn't it?"
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CB
"They're convincing [Saddam loyalists] that we are the same old America
that ran out of West Beirut when we had Marines killed; that ran out of
Somalia when we had some young soldiers killed; that let Saddam Hussein
survive the Gulf War," Haig complained.
The one-time NATO commander said that the criticism reminded him of
attacks on President Nixon during Vietnam, "when political opportunity
overcame patriotism, love of country and the interests of the American
people."
"Many of the Democratic left are anti-war under any circumstances," he
noted. "They would surrender before they would fight, and give up our
freedom rather than protect it."
--Secretary of State Alexander Haig on H&C
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:42:04 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
THE FEDERALIST BRIEF
The Conservative e-Journal of Record
A "record" of rightwing whining, moaning, and wishful thinking.
It has absolutely NO value other than that.
c
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On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:17:29 -0500, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com>
wrote like a rightwing scumbag;
Your such a coward. Anyone on USENET that's read your
posts knows you have nothing good to say that isn't filth.
Me describing you as a ***** is always in response
to your foul mouth. When ever you quote me describing
your character as "*****", you always leave out what
you said to earn that stigmata, coward
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21 Jul 2003 05:02:06 PM |
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<rightwing@nutty.com> wrote in message
news:77eohvc75j6k9q216aibnlvtf3sesnse1s@4ax.com...
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:42:04 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
THE FEDERALIST BRIEF
The Conservative e-Journal of Record
A "record" of rightwing whining, moaning, and wishful thinking.
It has absolutely NO value other than that.
c
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On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:17:29 -0500, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com>
wrote like a rightwing scumbag;
Your such a coward. Anyone on USENET that's read your
posts knows you have nothing good to say that isn't filth.
Me describing you as a ***** is always in response
to your foul mouth. When ever you quote me describing
your character as "*****", you always leave out what
you said to earn that stigmata, coward
You are a moron for calling anybody a *****.
And, it's "you're (you are) such a coward ...", "nothing good to say that
isn't filth" is redundant, and "when ever" is whenever.
You are apparently a moron in more than one way ...
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22 Jul 2003 06:07:36 AM |
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<rightwing@nutty.com> wrote in message
news:gggphvo0teee34irknackmpie4cfdjll9l@4ax.com...
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:02:06 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<rightwing@nutty.com> wrote in message
news:77eohvc75j6k9q216aibnlvtf3sesnse1s@4ax.com...
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:42:04 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
THE FEDERALIST BRIEF
The Conservative e-Journal of Record
A "record" of rightwing whining, moaning, and wishful thinking.
It has absolutely NO value other than that.
c
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On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:17:29 -0500, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com>
wrote like a rightwing scumbag;
Your such a coward. Anyone on USENET that's read your
posts knows you have nothing good to say that isn't filth.
Me describing you as a ***** is always in response
to your foul mouth. When ever you quote me describing
your character as "*****", you always leave out what
you said to earn that stigmata, coward
You are a moron for calling anybody a *****.
And, it's "you're (you are) such a coward ...", "nothing good to say that
isn't filth" is redundant, and "when ever" is whenever.
You are apparently a moron in more than one way ...
What is it that you don't understand a sig. line?
The cite is Charly Barta's............not mine.
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"Unfrozen Caveman Politician Gore":
<CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
No one wants a foul mouthed ***** working for him, no matter
what skin he wears.
I've owned and sold two landscape businesses for more money
that you'll earn in 20 years. I have employed hundreds if
not thousands of people. I know a ***** after just a
short time hearing him talk, work and complain.
Give that man a job in Human Resources...stat!
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23 Jul 2003 03:00:38 PM |
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<rightwing@nutty.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:59:04 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
Screening vulgar low lives like you from getting employment in
responsible
positions that deal with the public is the job of any Human Resource
department.
You Fired
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22 Jul 2003 06:30:19 PM |
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Hey, wingnut!
Didja hear? We're gaining control and making progress!
Suck to be you, eh??
LOL!!
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22 Jul 2003 09:40:34 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:30:19 -0400, wrote:
Hey, wingnut!
Didja hear? We're gaining control and making progress!
You sure didn't "gain ground" when you stated that your rat-***** idiot didn't say "45
minutes", you fucking loony.
That makes your credibility as low as your rat-***** hero
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"The Afghan Mujahadeens are the moral equivalent
of the Founding Fathers of America."
-Ronald Reagan
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On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 20:40:34 -0600, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:30:19 -0400, wrote:
Hey, wingnut!
Didja hear? We're gaining control and making progress!
You sure didn't "gain ground" when you stated that your rat-***** idiot didn't say "45
minutes", you fucking loony.
LOL!! One part of a statement.
For one part of a brain.
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22 Jul 2003 01:55:38 PM |
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I only see the sig line when you post.
<rightwing@nutty.com> wrote in message
news:gggphvo0teee34irknackmpie4cfdjll9l@4ax.com...
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:02:06 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com>
wrote:
<rightwing@nutty.com> wrote in message
news:77eohvc75j6k9q216aibnlvtf3sesnse1s@4ax.com...
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:42:04 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
THE FEDERALIST BRIEF
The Conservative e-Journal of Record
A "record" of rightwing whining, moaning, and wishful thinking.
It has absolutely NO value other than that.
c
-----------------------------------------------------------
On Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:17:29 -0500, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com>
wrote like a rightwing scumbag;
Your such a coward. Anyone on USENET that's read your
posts knows you have nothing good to say that isn't filth.
Me describing you as a ***** is always in response
to your foul mouth. When ever you quote me describing
your character as "*****", you always leave out what
you said to earn that stigmata, coward
You are a moron for calling anybody a *****.
And, it's "you're (you are) such a coward ...", "nothing good to say that
isn't filth" is redundant, and "when ever" is whenever.
You are apparently a moron in more than one way ...
What is it that you don't understand a sig. line?
The cite is Charly Barta's............not mine.
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"Unfrozen Caveman Politician Gore":
<CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
No one wants a foul mouthed ***** working for him, no matter
what skin he wears.
I've owned and sold two landscape businesses for more money
that you'll earn in 20 years. I have employed hundreds if
not thousands of people. I know a ***** after just a
short time hearing him talk, work and complain.
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