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Topic: Sociology > Education
User: "buckeye"
Date: 13 Dec 2007 05:01:58 AM
Object: The Framers of the Constitution Are Counting On Us
The Framers of the Constitution Are Counting On Us
By Frederick Clarkson Sun Dec 09, 2007 at 04:33:36 PM
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/12/9/163336/906
[excerpt]
A lot of people now pretend that religion is irrelevant to one's candidacy
-- even as the central premise of the religious right has been that nothing
could possibly be more important than their particular brand of faith.
Clearly, the way things are and they way they should be -- are very
different things.

This pitting of people's religious views (or non-religious views) against
one another in electoral contests is what as a culture we have worked hard
to avoid. And the pathetic gyrations of Mitt Romney, hopelessly trying to
pander to the religious right while simultaneously trying to sound
Kennedyesque, may say more about the state of our political culture in this
regard than anything else (with the possible exception of the Washington
Post's front page flogging of a rumor that Barack Obama is or was a Muslim
and trying to pretend that there was a news justification for it.)
Meanwhile Mike Huckabee, who has always been a candidate of the religious
right naturally has, on closer examination, the grim record of an old time
religious rightist. . .
[end excerpt]
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
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User: "William Wingstedt"

Title: Re: The Framers of the Constitution Are Counting On Us 13 Dec 2007 06:38:29 AM
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:01:58 -0500, buckeye <buckeyeelo@nospam.net>
wrote:


The Framers of the Constitution Are Counting On Us

Is the notion that dead people are counting on us a religious idea?

By Frederick Clarkson Sun Dec 09, 2007 at 04:33:36 PM
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/12/9/163336/906

[excerpt]
A lot of people now pretend that religion is irrelevant to one's candidacy
-- even as the central premise of the religious right has been that nothing
could possibly be more important than their particular brand of faith.
Clearly, the way things are and they way they should be -- are very
different things.

snip
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: The Framers of the Constitution Are Counting On Us 13 Dec 2007 06:07:31 PM
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:38:29 GMT,

(William Wingstedt) wrote:

On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:01:58 -0500, buckeye <buckeyeelo@nospam.net>
wrote:


The Framers of the Constitution Are Counting On Us


Is the notion that dead people are counting on us a religious idea?

No.
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