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The Huckabee Doctrine...A Theocratic Constitution |
The Huckabee Doctrine...A Theocratic Constitution
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/49679
Dale Netherton
January 20, 2008
Former Governor Mike Huckabee spoke to a sympathetic group in South
Carolina and informed them he had no problem in changing the
Constitution if it was in line with God´s law. This is what we hear in
Islamic countries that want their constitution to be subservient to
Islamic law and their translation of God meaning Allah. For an
American to not understand this comparison and the importance of the
separation of church and state is inexcusable. For a politician to try
to turn this ugly proposition into reality is detestable. There was
only a small group there encouraging this stance but were the audience
larger and the applause louder, this could create some real mob mayhem.
Bill O´Reilly talks of his culture warriors as traditionalists
fighting the secular progressives who are questioning the
traditionalist´s traditions. What he doesn´t recognize is the fanatic
traditionalists are also on the move for change and invariably this
change must lead us back to a more restricted past based on the
honoring of traditions that can no longer be defended by any other
means than , "we´ve always done it that way". And when an injustice
occurs under those traditions, like back alley abortions, and the law
reviews the issue and finds that individuals that are pregnant have
individual rights and they act to protect those rights, the
traditionalists scream that individual rights be damned because they
believe a life only needs to be conceived. Where they got that idea
and why they cling to it is another matter. People who would prefer to
point to a book to define their stance instead of reviewing, analyzing
and thinking about the ramifications and consequences of their stance
revert to the sanction of faith as sufficient to enforce their
dictates. MIke Huckabee is the Elmer Gantry of today that is blatantly
moving in the direction of theocratic rule and only honestly proclaims
it in front of sympathetic audiences. Otherwise he is the good old boy
from Arkansas that is foremost a government executive that builds
roads and bridges so as to appeal to those willing to overlook his
hidden outbursts of his fundamental direction.
The good thing is the country is not over run with fundamentalists
seeking a wide eyed preacher to sit in the Oval Office. For America to
have room for all views the view must prevail that censorship must be
forbidden. For when restrictions begin to stifle individuals in the
name of belief backed by demands for faith then tradition becomes the
impediment to progress. O´Reilly wants his traditionalists to triumph
over the progressives? He adds the modifier "secular" as if the
meaning of non-secular can be ignored. In reality non-seculars are the
religionists. If a religionist seeks to insert religion into politics
then he ultimately will try to subvert the Constitution to his brand
of belief. And woe be to those who believe differently.
A country cannot be as free as the United States of America without
protecting minority rights. For without protection there will be
persecution of minorities. And the way to subvert minority rights (
i.e. those who do not agree with the majority ) is to position
yourself as a spokesperson for the majority and claim to enforce the
will of the people. The people who do not agree then suddenly become
non-persons, enemies of the state, political prisoners, etc. This is
the road that begins with a political zealot who seeks power to spread
his brand of "religion" on enough people to fancy he has a mandate to
transform the country into his "God´s" purpose.
Fortunately America has a healthy respect for the doctrine of
separation of church and state. But the emergence of a Mike Huckabee
is proof that liberty cannot survive with an apathetic passive
citizenry. The good old boy approach is used by politicians to assure
the voters that there is no zealotry to be feared. But a politician in
today´s world that isn´t seeking power to impose his vision doesn´t
exist. Just a sentry must always be on the alert for a foreign invader
so to we must be on our guard against the saboteur of American
fundamentals centered on the protection of individual rights. And even
these rights are susceptible to distortion via the framer of the
Declaration of Independence who placed the phrase, " endowed by their
creator´ in the document. This assertion that rights are endowed by a
creator has the flaw that the religious zealot can point to to justify
his proposed modification. Individual rights are not endowed by
anyone. They are the conditions in reality that men in a social
setting must accept and enforce for individual assurances of security
and protection from the initiation of force. Reality trumps the
supernatural and this fact protects us from the would be zealot who
would mesmerize us with down home guitar pickin, good old boy humor
and a hidden desire to make the Constitution into a relic. As a former
resident of Arkansas I´ve heard the saying , " Keep the preaching in
the pulpit". Evidently there are some governors of that state who
can´t resist a temptation.
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation
of Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Historical Reality SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
***************************************************************
.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is
why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v.
Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
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| Title: Re: The Huckabee Doctrine...A Theocratic Constitution |
23 Jan 2008 01:08:05 PM |
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On Jan 23, 7:18 pm, buckeye <buckeye...@nospam.net> wrote:
The Huckabee Doctrine...A Theocratic Constitutionhttp://www.americanchroni=
cle.com/articles/49679
Dale Netherton
January 20, 2008
Former Governor Mike Huckabee spoke to a sympathetic group in South
Carolina and informed them he had no problem in changing the
Constitution if it was in line with God=B4s law. This is what we hear in
Islamic countries that want their constitution to be subservient to
Islamic law and their translation of God meaning Allah. For an
American to not understand this comparison and the importance of the
separation of church and state is inexcusable. For a politician to try
to turn this ugly proposition into reality is detestable. There was
only a small group there encouraging this stance but were the audience
larger and the applause louder, this could create some real mob mayhem.
Bill O=B4Reilly talks of his culture warriors as traditionalists
fighting the secular progressives who are questioning the
traditionalist=B4s traditions. What he doesn=B4t recognize is the fanatic
traditionalists are also on the move for change and invariably this
change must lead us back to a more restricted past based on the
honoring of traditions that can no longer be defended by any other
means than , "we=B4ve always done it that way". And when an injustice
occurs under those traditions, like back alley abortions, and the law
reviews the issue and finds that individuals that are pregnant have
individual rights and they act to protect those rights, the
traditionalists scream that individual rights be damned because they
believe a life only needs to be conceived. Where they got that idea
and why they cling to it is another matter. People who would prefer to
point to a book to define their stance instead of reviewing, analyzing
and thinking about the ramifications and consequences of their stance
revert to the sanction of faith as sufficient to enforce their
dictates. MIke Huckabee is the Elmer Gantry of today that is blatantly
moving in the direction of theocratic rule and only honestly proclaims
it in front of sympathetic audiences. Otherwise he is the good old boy
from Arkansas that is foremost a government executive that builds
roads and bridges so as to appeal to those willing to overlook his
hidden outbursts of his fundamental direction.
The good thing is the country is not over run with fundamentalists
seeking a wide eyed preacher to sit in the Oval Office. For America to
have room for all views the view must prevail that censorship must be
forbidden. For when restrictions begin to stifle individuals in the
name of belief backed by demands for faith then tradition becomes the
impediment to progress. O=B4Reilly wants his traditionalists to triumph
over the progressives? He adds the modifier "secular" as if the
meaning of non-secular can be ignored. In reality non-seculars are the
religionists. If a religionist seeks to insert religion into politics
then he ultimately will try to subvert the Constitution to his brand
of belief. And woe be to those who believe differently.
A country cannot be as free as the United States of America without
protecting minority rights. For without protection there will be
persecution of minorities. And the way to subvert minority rights (
i.e. those who do not agree with the majority ) is to position
yourself as a spokesperson for the majority and claim to enforce the
will of the people. The people who do not agree then suddenly become
non-persons, enemies of the state, political prisoners, etc. This is
the road that begins with a political zealot who seeks power to spread
his brand of "religion" on enough people to fancy he has a mandate to
transform the country into his "God=B4s" purpose.
Fortunately America has a healthy respect for the doctrine of
separation of church and state. But the emergence of a Mike Huckabee
is proof that liberty cannot survive with an apathetic passive
citizenry. The good old boy approach is used by politicians to assure
the voters that there is no zealotry to be feared. But a politician in
today=B4s world that isn=B4t seeking power to impose his vision doesn=B4t
exist. Just a sentry must always be on the alert for a foreign invader
so to we must be on our guard against the saboteur of American
fundamentals centered on the protection of individual rights. And even
these rights are susceptible to distortion via the framer of the
Declaration of Independence who placed the phrase, " endowed by their
creator=B4 in the document. This assertion that rights are endowed by a
creator has the flaw that the religious zealot can point to to justify
his proposed modification. Individual rights are not endowed by
anyone. They are the conditions in reality that men in a social
setting must accept and enforce for individual assurances of security
and protection from the initiation of force. Reality trumps the
supernatural and this fact protects us from the would be zealot who
would mesmerize us with down home guitar pickin, good old boy humor
and a hidden desire to make the Constitution into a relic. As a former
resident of Arkansas I=B4ve heard the saying , " Keep the preaching in
the pulpit". Evidently there are some governors of that state who
can=B4t resist a temptation.
***************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of Americahttp://members.tripod.com/~can=
dst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Presenthttp://members.tripod.com/~candst/the=
ocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and Statehttp://members=
..tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation
of Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS =B7 Historical Reality SepChurch&Statehttp://groups.yahoo.com/gro=
up/HRSepCnS/
***************************************************************
. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is
why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v.
Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
. . .
****************************************************************
USAF LT. COL (Ret) Buffman (Glen P. Goffin) wrote
"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
*****************************************************************
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
****************************************************************
if you only could speak the truth,the sun sets in the east tomorrow.
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