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User: "Cary Kittrell"
Date: 13 Sep 2005 11:52:04 AM
Object: the only thing cuter than penguins...
.... would be the kind of folks who reject appeals to
nature when you show them that homosexual behavior
is widespread throughout the animal kingdom --
"so what? Humans aren't animals" -- but
become sudden tree-huggers at the sight of
a monogamous, self-sacrificing, "it's for
the children" kind of bird.
-- cary
The New York Times
September 13, 2005
March of the Conservatives: Penguin Film as Political Fodder

By JONATHAN MILLER

On the conservative Web site WorldNetDaily.com
an opponent of abortion wrote that the movie
"verified the beauty of life and the rightness of protecting it."

At a conference for young Republicans, the editor of National Review
urged participants to see the movie because it promoted monogamy. A
widely circulated Christian magazine said it made "a strong case for
intelligent design."

The movie is "March of the Penguins," and of
all the reactions it has evoked, perhaps the most surprising is its
appeal to conservatives. They are hardly its only audience; the film is
the second highest grossing documentary of all time, behind "Fahrenheit
9/11."

But conservative groups have turned its stirring depiction of the mating
ordeals of emperor penguins into an unexpected battle anthem in the
culture wars.

"March of the Penguins," the conservative film critic and radio host
Michael Medved said in an interview, is "the motion picture this summer
that most passionately affirms traditional norms like monogamy,
sacrifice and child rearing."

Speaking of audiences who feel that movies ignore or belittle such
themes, he added: "This is the first movie they've enjoyed since 'The
Passion of the Christ.' This is 'The 'Passion of the Penguins.' "
full article at:


http://nytimes.com/2005/09/13/science/13peng.html



-- cary
.

User: "G-Ride"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 13 Sep 2005 02:48:36 PM
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:dg703k$etd$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...

... would be the kind of folks who reject appeals to
nature when you show them that homosexual behavior
is widespread throughout the animal kingdom --
"so what? Humans aren't animals" -- but
become sudden tree-huggers at the sight of
a monogamous, self-sacrificing, "it's for
the children" kind of bird.


-- cary


The New York Times
September 13, 2005


March of the Conservatives: Penguin Film as Political Fodder

By JONATHAN MILLER

On the conservative Web site WorldNetDaily.com
an opponent of abortion wrote that the movie
"verified the beauty of life and the rightness of protecting it."

At a conference for young Republicans, the editor of National Review
urged participants to see the movie because it promoted monogamy. A
widely circulated Christian magazine said it made "a strong case for
intelligent design."

The movie is "March of the Penguins," and of
all the reactions it has evoked, perhaps the most surprising is its
appeal to conservatives. They are hardly its only audience; the film

is

the second highest grossing documentary of all time, behind

"Fahrenheit

9/11."

But conservative groups have turned its stirring depiction of the

mating

ordeals of emperor penguins into an unexpected battle anthem in the
culture wars.

"March of the Penguins," the conservative film critic and radio host
Michael Medved said in an interview, is "the motion picture this

summer

that most passionately affirms traditional norms like monogamy,
sacrifice and child rearing."

Speaking of audiences who feel that movies ignore or belittle such
themes, he added: "This is the first movie they've enjoyed since 'The
Passion of the Christ.' This is 'The 'Passion of the Penguins.' "


full article at:



http://nytimes.com/2005/09/13/science/13peng.html

These people are idiots. I wonder if they even watched the films. How can
the film "affirm monogamy" when it states outright that the penguins choose
a new partner each time they breed?
--
Aloha, G-Ride
"Like a quarrelling group of monkeys on a leaky boat, armed with sticks of
dynamite, we are now embarked on an uncertain journey."
.
User: "skyeyes"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 13 Sep 2005 02:52:39 PM
G-Ride wrote:

These people are idiots. I wonder if they even watched the films. How can
the film "affirm monogamy" when it states outright that the penguins choose
a new partner each time they breed?

That's because they all (really) belong to the First Church of
Selective Perception.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
.

User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 13 Sep 2005 03:01:31 PM
In article <3oooq3F6i0tuU1@individual.net> "G-Ride" <gride42nospammotherfucker@yahoo.com> writes:

"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:dg703k$etd$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...

... would be the kind of folks who reject appeals to
nature when you show them that homosexual behavior
is widespread throughout the animal kingdom --
"so what? Humans aren't animals" -- but
become sudden tree-huggers at the sight of
a monogamous, self-sacrificing, "it's for
the children" kind of bird.


-- cary


The New York Times
September 13, 2005


March of the Conservatives: Penguin Film as Political Fodder

By JONATHAN MILLER

On the conservative Web site WorldNetDaily.com
an opponent of abortion wrote that the movie
"verified the beauty of life and the rightness of protecting it."

At a conference for young Republicans, the editor of National Review
urged participants to see the movie because it promoted monogamy. A
widely circulated Christian magazine said it made "a strong case for
intelligent design."

The movie is "March of the Penguins," and of
all the reactions it has evoked, perhaps the most surprising is its
appeal to conservatives. They are hardly its only audience; the film

is

the second highest grossing documentary of all time, behind

"Fahrenheit

9/11."

But conservative groups have turned its stirring depiction of the

mating

ordeals of emperor penguins into an unexpected battle anthem in the
culture wars.

"March of the Penguins," the conservative film critic and radio host
Michael Medved said in an interview, is "the motion picture this

summer

that most passionately affirms traditional norms like monogamy,
sacrifice and child rearing."

Speaking of audiences who feel that movies ignore or belittle such
themes, he added: "This is the first movie they've enjoyed since 'The
Passion of the Christ.' This is 'The 'Passion of the Penguins.' "


full article at:



http://nytimes.com/2005/09/13/science/13peng.html



These people are idiots. I wonder if they even watched the films. How can
the film "affirm monogamy" when it states outright that the penguins choose
a new partner each time they breed?

Hey, if that's God's will, and we're just now seeing it...well, I predict
a huge influx of fresh new converts. Make that "new and enthusiastic
converts".
-- cary
.

User: "MarkA"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 13 Sep 2005 04:49:08 PM
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:48:36 -1000, G-Ride wrote:

"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:dg703k$etd$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...

... would be the kind of folks who reject appeals to nature when you
show them that homosexual behavior is widespread throughout the animal
kingdom -- "so what? Humans aren't animals" -- but become sudden
tree-huggers at the sight of a monogamous, self-sacrificing, "it's for
the children" kind of bird.


-- cary


The New York Times
September 13, 2005


March of the Conservatives: Penguin Film as Political Fodder

By JONATHAN MILLER

On the conservative Web site WorldNetDaily.com an opponent of
abortion wrote that the movie "verified the beauty of life and the
rightness of protecting it."

At a conference for young Republicans, the editor of National Review
urged participants to see the movie because it promoted monogamy. A
widely circulated Christian magazine said it made "a strong case for
intelligent design."

The movie is "March of the Penguins," and of all the reactions it
has evoked, perhaps the most surprising is its appeal to
conservatives. They are hardly its only audience; the film

is

the second highest grossing documentary of all time, behind

"Fahrenheit

9/11."

But conservative groups have turned its stirring depiction of the

mating

ordeals of emperor penguins into an unexpected battle anthem in the
culture wars.

"March of the Penguins," the conservative film critic and radio host
Michael Medved said in an interview, is "the motion picture this

summer

that most passionately affirms traditional norms like monogamy,
sacrifice and child rearing."

Speaking of audiences who feel that movies ignore or belittle such
themes, he added: "This is the first movie they've enjoyed since
'The Passion of the Christ.' This is 'The 'Passion of the Penguins.'
"


full article at:



http://nytimes.com/2005/09/13/science/13peng.html



These people are idiots. I wonder if they even watched the films. How
can the film "affirm monogamy" when it states outright that the penguins
choose a new partner each time they breed?

I like the part where if the female doesn't get back to the "nest" soon
enough, the male will go to feed himself, and leave the hatchling to die.
Perhaps we should take all the fundies, tie their shoelaces together, and
drop them off in Antarctica in the middle of winter, 70 miles from the
coast....
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
.
User: "G-Ride"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 13 Sep 2005 06:40:02 PM
"MarkA" <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.09.13.21.49.06.932687@stopspam.net...

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:48:36 -1000, G-Ride wrote:

"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:dg703k$etd$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...

... would be the kind of folks who reject appeals to nature when you
show them that homosexual behavior is widespread throughout the animal
kingdom -- "so what? Humans aren't animals" -- but become sudden
tree-huggers at the sight of a monogamous, self-sacrificing, "it's for
the children" kind of bird.


-- cary


The New York Times
September 13, 2005


March of the Conservatives: Penguin Film as Political Fodder

By JONATHAN MILLER

On the conservative Web site WorldNetDaily.com an opponent of
abortion wrote that the movie "verified the beauty of life and the
rightness of protecting it."

At a conference for young Republicans, the editor of National

Review

urged participants to see the movie because it promoted monogamy. A
widely circulated Christian magazine said it made "a strong case

for

intelligent design."

The movie is "March of the Penguins," and of all the reactions it
has evoked, perhaps the most surprising is its appeal to
conservatives. They are hardly its only audience; the film

is

the second highest grossing documentary of all time, behind

"Fahrenheit

9/11."

But conservative groups have turned its stirring depiction of the

mating

ordeals of emperor penguins into an unexpected battle anthem in the
culture wars.

"March of the Penguins," the conservative film critic and radio

host

Michael Medved said in an interview, is "the motion picture this

summer

that most passionately affirms traditional norms like monogamy,
sacrifice and child rearing."

Speaking of audiences who feel that movies ignore or belittle such
themes, he added: "This is the first movie they've enjoyed since
'The Passion of the Christ.' This is 'The 'Passion of the

Penguins.'

"


full article at:



http://nytimes.com/2005/09/13/science/13peng.html



These people are idiots. I wonder if they even watched the films. How
can the film "affirm monogamy" when it states outright that the penguins
choose a new partner each time they breed?


I like the part where if the female doesn't get back to the "nest" soon
enough, the male will go to feed himself, and leave the hatchling to die.

Perhaps we should take all the fundies, tie their shoelaces together, and
drop them off in Antarctica in the middle of winter, 70 miles from the
coast....

Now there's an idea!
--
Aloha, G-Ride
"Like a quarrelling group of monkeys on a leaky boat, armed with sticks of
dynamite, we are now embarked on an uncertain journey."
.



User: "Secret Squirrel"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 14 Sep 2005 11:32:22 AM
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cary@afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote in
news:dg703k$etd$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu:

... would be the kind of folks who reject appeals to
nature when you show them that homosexual behavior
is widespread throughout the animal kingdom --
"so what? Humans aren't animals" -- but
become sudden tree-huggers at the sight of
a monogamous, self-sacrificing, "it's for
the children" kind of bird.


-- cary


The New York Times
September 13, 2005


March of the Conservatives: Penguin Film as Political
Fodder

By JONATHAN MILLER

On the conservative Web site WorldNetDaily.com
an opponent of abortion wrote that the movie
"verified the beauty of life and the rightness of
protecting it."

At a conference for young Republicans, the editor of
National Review urged participants to see the movie
because it promoted monogamy. A widely circulated
Christian magazine said it made "a strong case for
intelligent design."

Wasn't it the penguins at the Edinbourough Zoo who were
discovered to have established the same sort of cutsey
lifelong sexual pair-bonding, save with the *same gender*??
My, my, how selective we are even with penguins.
Of course, I've always smirked how such people look far
and wide for cutsey examples of pair-bonding and child-
rearing in the animal kingdom, in species not at all
closely related to us (Hello? birds are diapsids and
we're synapids) all the while steadfastly ignoring the
example of the species that is probably most closely
related to us, sex-wise and in many other ways as well:
bonobo chimps, who act just like an guys having an orgy
in a gay bath house.
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User: ""

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 14 Sep 2005 12:10:45 PM
Secret Squirrel wrote:

Wasn't it the penguins at the Edinbourough Zoo who were
discovered to have established the same sort of cutsey
lifelong sexual pair-bonding, save with the *same gender*??
My, my, how selective we are even with penguins.

A lot of birds do. Come to think of it, a lot
of pair-bonding animals do. And don't think
polygynous species are completely heterosexual
either. Some polyandrous species, such as bees,
probably are, but others aren't. (Drones can
only mate once, and there's only one queen.)
And then you get ones where mating isn't that
selective at all, and bisexuality basically is
the norm.

Of course, I've always smirked how such people look far
and wide for cutsey examples of pair-bonding and child-
rearing in the animal kingdom, in species not at all
closely related to us (Hello? birds are diapsids and
we're synapids) all the while steadfastly ignoring the
example of the species that is probably most closely
related to us, sex-wise and in many other ways as well:
bonobo chimps, who act just like an guys having an orgy
in a gay bath house.

Only the bonobos aren't a "no girls allowed"
type thing. With apes, and probably catarrhines
in general, the only thing approximating the
nuclear family is the gibbon. Humans can have
any number of mating patterns, but the real
trick to human mating is, it's also a force for
social cohesion, in the form of marriage.
Naturally, this makes for certain social
pressures to marry certain people.
This tendency to look for human nature in the
animal kingdom has a strange way of looking
for ideologically correct species;
sociobiologists look for human nature in ants
and tarantulas, who aren't even chordates.
.
User: "Secret Squirrel"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 15 Sep 2005 10:43:06 AM
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Secret Squirrel wrote:

Of course, I've always smirked how such people look far
and wide for cutsey examples of pair-bonding and child-
rearing in the animal kingdom, in species not at all
closely related to us (Hello? birds are diapsids and
we're synapids) all the while steadfastly ignoring the
example of the species that is probably most closely
related to us, sex-wise and in many other ways as well:
bonobo chimps, who act just like an guys having an orgy
in a gay bath house.


Only the bonobos aren't a "no girls allowed"
type thing. With apes, and probably catarrhines
in general, the only thing approximating the
nuclear family is the gibbon. Humans can have
any number of mating patterns, but the real
trick to human mating is, it's also a force for
social cohesion, in the form of marriage.
Naturally, this makes for certain social
pressures to marry certain people.

I agree, but I see the issue as our cultures vs
our biology. Our biology is to be like bonobos,
our cultures try to deflect us away from that.
The fact that so many sexual arrangements and taboos
can exist, I think, is consistent with our bonobo-
like versatility. What is not prohibited by our
cultures, we do.

This tendency to look for human nature in the
animal kingdom has a strange way of looking
for ideologically correct species;
sociobiologists look for human nature in ants
and tarantulas, who aren't even chordates.

Of course, that's my whole point, and a chief flaw
with both sociobiology and its offshoot, evolutionary
psychology. That and they too frequently look at the
habits of modern Western culture for "natural" human
behavior, leading to the conjectures about ancient human
life akin to the Flintstones.
Bonobos are just the best model, and for a variety
of reasons they're still politically and ideologically
incorrect, to both the right and the left too.
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User: ""

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 15 Sep 2005 12:20:48 PM
Secret Squirrel wrote:

Only the bonobos aren't a "no girls allowed"
type thing. With apes, and probably catarrhines
in general, the only thing approximating the
nuclear family is the gibbon. Humans can have
any number of mating patterns, but the real
trick to human mating is, it's also a force for
social cohesion, in the form of marriage.
Naturally, this makes for certain social
pressures to marry certain people.


I agree, but I see the issue as our cultures vs
our biology. Our biology is to be like bonobos,
our cultures try to deflect us away from that.
The fact that so many sexual arrangements and taboos
can exist, I think, is consistent with our bonobo-
like versatility. What is not prohibited by our
cultures, we do.

Makes sense. I mean, in Lakota culture, the big
taboos are:
*incest (ANY known relative)
*rape (capital offense)
*adultery (though the definition of adultery is
slightly different)
*menstrual taboos
*LONG postpartum taboos
Obviously, Western culture doesn't have the
same taboos, except for rape and incest, and
even then, there used to be a lot more winking
at it. Still is, in some parts of the country
and with some influential individuals.

This tendency to look for human nature in the
animal kingdom has a strange way of looking
for ideologically correct species;
sociobiologists look for human nature in ants
and tarantulas, who aren't even chordates.


Of course, that's my whole point, and a chief flaw
with both sociobiology and its offshoot, evolutionary
psychology. That and they too frequently look at the
habits of modern Western culture for "natural" human
behavior, leading to the conjectures about ancient human
life akin to the Flintstones.

There is SOME experimentation in like 1% of
sociobiology. I saw something about sweat and
immune genes a while back. Basically, people
with different immune genes have subtly
different sweat. We don't consciously notice
it, but it does seem to turn people on.

Bonobos are just the best model, and for a variety
of reasons they're still politically and ideologically
incorrect, to both the right and the left too.

As long as we agree some restrictions might
be a good thing. I mean, there are nasty
diseases out there. They might not be the
reason these taboos began, but an ounce of
prevention.
.




User: "Feminazi Cuntkins"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 14 Sep 2005 04:07:43 PM
....are gay penguins.
It's their sense of style.
FNC, do I win a prize?
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 14 Sep 2005 05:17:35 PM
In article <cu3hi1dmsu3j0gdp38b6s74mveresp9f1j@4ax.com>
writes:


...are gay penguins.

It's their sense of style.

FNC, do I win a prize?

What, AGAIN?
-- cary
.
User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 14 Sep 2005 08:12:06 PM
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:17:35 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article <dga7hv$er$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>):

In article <cu3hi1dmsu3j0gdp38b6s74mveresp9f1j@4ax.com>


writes:


...are gay penguins.

It's their sense of style.

FNC, do I win a prize?


What, AGAIN?


-- cary


Not another booby prize?
++ gray
.



User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 13 Sep 2005 12:53:06 PM
Cary Kittrell wrote:

... would be the kind of folks who reject appeals to
nature when you show them that homosexual behavior
is widespread throughout the animal kingdom --
"so what? Humans aren't animals" -- but
become sudden tree-huggers at the sight of
a monogamous, self-sacrificing, "it's for
the children" kind of bird.

Monogamous only until the breeding season is over, which describes many
religious conservatives perfectly :-)

The New York Times
September 13, 2005

March of the Conservatives: Penguin Film as Political Fodder

By JONATHAN MILLER

On the conservative Web site WorldNetDaily.com
an opponent of abortion wrote that the movie
"verified the beauty of life and the rightness of protecting it."

At a conference for young Republicans, the editor of National Review
urged participants to see the movie because it promoted monogamy. A
widely circulated Christian magazine said it made "a strong case for
intelligent design."

The movie is "March of the Penguins," and of
all the reactions it has evoked, perhaps the most surprising is its
appeal to conservatives. They are hardly its only audience; the film is
the second highest grossing documentary of all time, behind "Fahrenheit
9/11."

But conservative groups have turned its stirring depiction of the mating
ordeals of emperor penguins into an unexpected battle anthem in the
culture wars.

"March of the Penguins," the conservative film critic and radio host
Michael Medved said in an interview, is "the motion picture this summer
that most passionately affirms traditional norms like monogamy,
sacrifice and child rearing."

Speaking of audiences who feel that movies ignore or belittle such
themes, he added: "This is the first movie they've enjoyed since 'The
Passion of the Christ.' This is 'The 'Passion of the Penguins.' "

full article at:



http://nytimes.com/2005/09/13/science/13peng.html



-- cary

--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
- Robert Anton Wilson
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 13 Sep 2005 12:59:43 PM
Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net>


Cary Kittrell wrote:

... would be the kind of folks who reject appeals to
nature when you show them that homosexual behavior
is widespread throughout the animal kingdom --
"so what? Humans aren't animals" -- but
become sudden tree-huggers at the sight of
a monogamous, self-sacrificing, "it's for
the children" kind of bird.


Monogamous only until the breeding season is over, which describes many
religious conservatives perfectly :-)

Whoa! That had not occurred to me!
-- cary
.


User: "Divin Marquis"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 13 Sep 2005 05:24:27 PM
Le Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:52:04 +0000, Cary Kittrell a écrit :

... would be the kind of folks who reject appeals to nature when you show
them that homosexual behavior is widespread throughout the animal kingdom
-- "so what? Humans aren't animals" -- but become sudden tree-huggers at
the sight of a monogamous, self-sacrificing, "it's for the children" kind
of bird.

Do they know it's a French movie?
.
User: "WCB"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 14 Sep 2005 03:35:13 AM
Divin Marquis wrote:

Le Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:52:04 +0000, Cary Kittrell a écrit :

... would be the kind of folks who reject appeals to nature when you show
them that homosexual behavior is widespread throughout the animal kingdom
-- "so what? Humans aren't animals" -- but become sudden tree-huggers at
the sight of a monogamous, self-sacrificing, "it's for the children" kind
of bird.


Do they know it's a French movie?

Ducks and geese are also monogamous, many geese for
monogamous pairs for life. Some right wingers extoll the
manly art of hunting. Hunting geese and ducks is popular.
Go figure.
--
"Today the official spokesman for the Foxes
agreed an investigation into what happened
to the henhouse may be needed."
Cheerful Charlie
.
User: "Misleart Chuff"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 14 Sep 2005 01:54:36 PM
"WCB" <wbarwell@Mungggedd.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:11ifnb6g2isv547@corp.supernews.com...
: Divin Marquis wrote:
:
: > Le Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:52:04 +0000, Cary Kittrell a écrit :
: >
: >> ... would be the kind of folks who reject appeals to nature when
you show
: >> them that homosexual behavior is widespread throughout the animal
kingdom
: >> -- "so what? Humans aren't animals" -- but become sudden
tree-huggers at
: >> the sight of a monogamous, self-sacrificing, "it's for the
children" kind
: >> of bird.
: >
: > Do they know it's a French movie?
I wonder what this implies....
: Ducks and geese are also monogamous, many geese for
: monogamous pairs for life. Some right wingers extoll the
: manly art of hunting. Hunting geese and ducks is popular.
:
: Go figure.
Simple enough, you don't chase 'em (sit in a nice blind), and they're
not in the least bit dangerous...and a dog drags the carcass back to
you.
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User: "Divin Marquis"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 14 Sep 2005 04:22:01 AM
Le Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:35:13 -0500, WCB a écrit :

Ducks and geese are also monogamous, many geese for monogamous pairs for
life. Some right wingers extoll the manly art of hunting. Hunting geese
and ducks is popular.

Hmmm foie gras

Go figure.

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User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 14 Sep 2005 10:57:03 AM
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:35 WCB sigged:

"Today the official spokesman for the
Foxes agreed an investigation into what
happened to the henhouse may be needed."

And this investigation is to be "fair and balanced"?
I find it a little less than amusing that an alleged "news" network's symbol
and name is that of a predator.
Gray Shockley
--------------------------
Don't cha know?
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User: "Gray Shockley"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 14 Sep 2005 10:51:45 AM
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 03:35:13 -0500, WCB wrote
(in article <11ifnb6g2isv547@corp.supernews.com>):

Divin Marquis wrote:

Le Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:52:04 +0000, Cary Kittrell a écrit :

... would be the kind of folks who reject appeals to nature when you show
them that homosexual behavior is widespread throughout the animal kingdom
-- "so what? Humans aren't animals" -- but become sudden tree-huggers at
the sight of a monogamous, self-sacrificing, "it's for the children" kind
of bird.


Do they know it's a French movie?


Ducks and geese are also monogamous, many geese for
monogamous pairs for life. Some right wingers extoll the
manly art of hunting. Hunting geese and ducks is popular.

Go figure.


.

User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: the only thing cuter than penguins... 14 Sep 2005 08:20:49 AM
WCB wrote:

Divin Marquis wrote:

Le Tue, 13 Sep 2005 16:52:04 +0000, Cary Kittrell a écrit :

... would be the kind of folks who reject appeals to nature when you show
them that homosexual behavior is widespread throughout the animal kingdom
-- "so what? Humans aren't animals" -- but become sudden tree-huggers at
the sight of a monogamous, self-sacrificing, "it's for the children" kind
of bird.


Do they know it's a French movie?


Ducks and geese are also monogamous, many geese for
monogamous pairs for life.

Indeed. Same sex pairs of geese and ducks (also swans and other closely related
species) have been documented returning every year and building nests together.
By way of humorous example:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/08/12/thou_art_no_romeo/

Some right wingers extoll the manly art of hunting. Hunting geese and ducks is
popular.

Same sex mated pairs have been known to take over nests that have been abandoned
(if one of the parents gets killed -- by a human hunter, let's say -- the
surviving parent will abandon the nest and, if the season is still early, find
another mate and build another nest.) The same sex couple will assume parenting
duties, incubate the eggs and tend the chicks until they leave the nest for
good, thereby helping to insure the survival of the species.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking,
which leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy."
- Robert Anton Wilson
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