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Date: 21 Feb 2006 06:29:17 AM
Object: The US Supreme Court in History and Today
The US Supreme Court in History and Today
http://americandaily.com/article/11968
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American Daily - Stow,OH,USA
The U.S. Supreme Court in History and Today
By Nancy Salvato (02/19/2006)
[excerpt]
There have been many controversial rulings made by the court. Some that
particularly stand out are based on penumbra--implied protection, reach,
application, or consideration derived from explicitly enumerated rights
spelled out in the U.S. Constitution. For example, in Griswold v.
Connecticut (1965), there is an idea that the First Amendment has a
penumbra of privacy which is protected from governmental intrusion. This
right to privacy was later used to support the right to an abortion in Roe
v. Wade (1973).
The "establishment clause" prohibits the government from creating an
official religion or giving preferential treatment to one religious group.
The "free exercise clause" prohibits the government from interfering with
religious expression. Nowhere does the Constitution say that there is to be
a wall of separation between church and state. However, in 2002, there was
a huge conservative backlash played out on the Internet over the ordered
removal of Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Moore's Ten Commandments
monument in the Alabama state courts building because of its alleged
government endorsement of religion. Since then, many more lawsuits have
been filed by the American Civil Liberties Union and Americans United for
Separation of Church and State to remove such displays.
[end excerpt]
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
American Theocrats - Past and Present
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocrats.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads [Virginia] SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members, there are members from
all over the US and a couple from overseas as well]
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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"You pilot always into an unknown future;
facts are your only clue. Get the facts!"
That philosophy 'snipit' helped to get me, and my crew, through a good
many combat missions and far too many scary, inflight, emergencies.
It has also played a significant role in helping me to expose the
plethora of radical Christian propaganda and lies that we find at
almost every media turn.
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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE

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User: "Rescue"

Title: Re: The US Supreme Court in History and Today 21 Feb 2006 07:09:18 AM
wrote:

The US Supreme Court in History and Today
http://americandaily.com/article/11968

[You have to scrioll way down the page to find the arfticle ]

I am sure you will agree with my thoughts here
If christians would stop being so goofy, they could be in charge of the
country.
Daniel was a stateman...many Godly men we're elevated to run nations
and kingdoms...if anyone should posess sound wisdom it should be the
christian...
the little seducers are running around BLARING THEIR ANGER AT GOD FOR
NOT GIVING THEM A MERCEDES BENZ mhmmm
it's a joke! but then again, it really makes sense seeing that God has
called the weak of the world to show his mercy and glory through. To
confound the wise.
But still...men of understanding should step up! I am..Im trying!
If we are going to judge spiritual matters, how much easier is it to
judge earthly matters
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User: "Tecknomage"

Title: Re: The US Supreme Court in History and Today 22 Feb 2006 06:23:15 AM
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 07:29:17 -0500,
wrote:

The US Supreme Court in History and Today
http://americandaily.com/article/11968

[You have to scrioll way down the page to find the arfticle ]

or
http://americandaily.com/print.php

American Daily - Stow,OH,USA

The U.S. Supreme Court in History and Today
By Nancy Salvato (02/19/2006)
[excerpt]

There have been many controversial rulings made by the court. Some that
particularly stand out are based on penumbra--implied protection, reach,
application, or consideration derived from explicitly enumerated rights
spelled out in the U.S. Constitution. For example, in Griswold v.
Connecticut (1965), there is an idea that the First Amendment has a
penumbra of privacy which is protected from governmental intrusion. This
right to privacy was later used to support the right to an abortion in Roe
v. Wade (1973).

The "establishment clause" prohibits the government from creating an
official religion or giving preferential treatment to one religious group.
The "free exercise clause" prohibits the government from interfering with
religious expression. Nowhere does the Constitution say that there is to be
a wall of separation between church and state. However, in 2002, there was
a huge conservative backlash played out on the Internet over the ordered
removal of Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Moore's Ten Commandments
monument in the Alabama state courts building because of its alleged
government endorsement of religion. Since then, many more lawsuits have
been filed by the American Civil Liberties Union and Americans United for
Separation of Church and State to remove such displays.
[end excerpt]

The problem with the Ten Commandments inside a court building is that
it DOES imply preference to a religious group. The Ten Commandments
as the law of God is a Jewish/Christian belief. Having the Ten
Commandments in a court building is implying Christianity is the
government preferred religion over all others, which is _exactly_ what
the Constitution prohibits.
Note that this does _not_ exclude God from government, it just
excludes religious practices. The problem is that fundamentalists of
all religions equate exclusion of _their_ practices as not believing
in God, which is nonsense.
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up their religions with the purely secular
powers of the state -- the sword and the
purse. The instant I see someone try to mix
religion and politics I know they have no faith.
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User: ""

Title: Re: The US Supreme Court in History and Today 22 Feb 2006 09:36:46 AM
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 04:23:15 -0800, Tecknomage
<tecknode@NOSPAMcts.com> wrote:

The problem with the Ten Commandments inside a court building is that
it DOES imply preference to a religious group.

When references to the 10 Commandments are such that it
reflects Judeo-Christian PHILOSOPHY, a case can be made
that it doesn't abrogate the "Wall"
It's when it specifically denotes Judeo-Christian
THEOLOGY that it becomes contentious.
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