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Stan de SD wrote:
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The research also explodes a heavily touted "solution" to global
warming. Critics of international action, including members of the
Bush administration, say that there is little need to curb carbon
dioxide emissions because the gas could be collected and injected
into
the oceans for disposal. However, the study shows that this cure
could
be even worse than the disease.
Seas Turn to Acid As They Absorb Global Pollution
How would seas turn to "acid" by absorbing CO2? Please explain the
mechanism...
Carbonated water, H2CO3, that is water (H2O) with dissolved CO2, is
acidic. Get a bottle of seltzer water and a pH strip and see for
yourself.
Nice of you to remember all of your elementary school "science"
courses. Now
go get a CRC handbook, tell us the Ka of carbonic acid, and realizing
that
seawater is a naturally buffered solution of around ph 8, tell us how
much
CO2 the ocean needs to absorb to even make a dent.
First, you tell us how, when you put a jolt of chlorine into a
swimming pool, all the algae dies, even though you obviously can't
make a dent in the atmospheric chlorine partial pressure.
That's odd, I get answers to my other posts (mostly reiterating his
same questions over again without adding anything of value) but no
answer here. And no answer to my question regarding his squirting a
couple of cc of concentrated HCl up his nose.
Are you busy playing games because you don't understand my question, or
because you don't know how to get at the answer?
What the heck, I'll put my money where my mouth is; if Stan de Kemical
Enjinear believes the only important variables are total buffering
capacity of the bulk solution and total moles of H+ added, then
clearly a couple of ccs of concentrated HCl will not affect the human
body in any measurable way. Therefore, if he really believes his
espoused 'facts' here, he should have no reluctance to squirt a couple
of CCs of HCl up his nose. Should he provide reliable evidence of his
doing so, I hereby state that I will
1) Paypal him $25,
2) cease all Usenet posting related to climate issues for a period of
6 months, and
3) use as my sig "Stan de SD knows physical chemistry inside and out"
for a period of two months.
Note that he does not have to be correct regarding his blase
indifference to issues of diffusion and transient local effects, just
demonstrate that he truly believes his ignorance and is not just
emitting what he knows to be nonsense in order to be an annoying
rightwing knowitall jackass.
There's an old saying in the military: "If you can't dazzle them with
brilliance, baffle them with *****". That's obviously the game you're
playing here, because you can't answer the question. Your bung-buddy ED
proclaimed that "the oceans are turning to acid" because of increased CO2
concentrations, so I questioned how he arrived at that conclusion. You came
along and stuck your nose into the matter, lecturing me as if I couldn't
possibly be as enlightened as you because I hadn't adopted the Politically
Correct position on the subject, so I asked you to tell us what would be the
necessary atmospheric concentration of CO2 to turn the oceans even the
slightest bit acid (pH = 6.99). You obviously have no clue how to arrive at
that answer, even though I gave you the first dissociation constant (pKa1)
for carbonic acid, Raoult's Law, and told you to neglect factors such as the
buffering of seawater and the precipitation of carbonates in the presence of
Ca++/Mg++/Mn++ salts, all factors that would actually DECREASE the H2CO3
concentration in the ocean and make the oceans LESS acidic. Thanks for
establishing once and for all that you're another ignorant Lefty Liberal
sociology major who has no idea what the ***** you are talking about...
Now, PLEASE do us all a favor, and leave the grownups alone, OK??? :O(
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