Sociology > Education > Today's Founder Quote: "Most of the great universities of the West were founded with the conviction that theology is the queen of the disciplines"
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Today's Founder Quote: "Most of the great universities of the West were founded with the conviction that theology is the queen of the disciplines" |
Today's Founder Quote:
"Our country is in danger, but not to be despaired of. Our enemies are
numerous and powerful; but we have many friends, determining to be free, and
Heaven and Earth will aid the resolution. On you depend the fortunes of
America. You are to decide the important question, on which rest the
happiness and liberty of millions yet unborn. Act worthy of yourselves."
--Joseph Warren
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THE DRIFT FROM CHRISTIAN CONSENSUS IN WESTERN CULTURE
George M. Marsden provided an interesting contrast when he compared a few
statements made about the status of Christianity in American culture, two in
1873, and another only about fifty years later. The first statement was made
by Theodore Woolsey, the retired president of Yale University: "In what
sense can this country be called a Christian country? In this sense
certainly, that the vast majority of the people believe in Christ and the
Gospel, that Christian influences are universal, that our civilization and
intellectual culture are built on that foundation." On the same occasion in
1873, William F. Warren agreed: "There was never a time when the leavening
progress of Christ's kingdom among men was so rapid and irreversible as the
present."1
Fifty-one years later, in 1924, H. L. Mencken remarked that "Christendom may
be defined briefly as that part of the world in which, if any man stands up
in public and solemnly swears that he is a Christian, all his auditors will
laugh."2
The Christian consensus to which Woolsey and Warren alluded was a consensus
that had been enjoyed by Western culture for almost 1500 years, beginning
with the Roman emperor Theodosius I, who made Christianity the state
religion in A.D. 380. To a greater or lesser extent, there were always those
who opposed the consensus, either secretly or openly, but it was not until
the 51-year period between 1873 and 1924 that the consensus itself was
broken down.
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The entire twentieth century has lived entirely apart from its rich cultural
heritage. John S. North has written:
Most of the great universities of the West were founded with the
conviction that theology is the queen of the disciplines, and that the key
to man's wholeness is the pursuit of the truth of God through Jesus Christ.
.. . . Now, in the latter part of the twentieth century, that tradition has
almost disappeared. . . . Religious enthusiasm among students is an
embarrassment; belief in the authority of the Bible and the deity of Jesus
Christ is treated as naivety to be enlightened rather than life to be
nourished. Scholars in the arts, letters, and sciences who show signs of
Christian devotion are likely to be shrugged off as simplistic and
eccentric. Coincidentally, truth itself has become devalued, especially in
the humanities and social sciences and increasingly in the pure sciences,
its consequences and even existence a matter of doubt.3
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True to the spirit of twentieth-century scholarship, many revisionists have
attempted to minimize the importance of Christianity to the eighteenth and
nineteenth centuries
http://www.grmi.org/Richard_Riss/evidences2/01drift.html
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Joseph Story, in his 1829 inaugural address as Dane Professor of Law at
Harvard University, stated that "there never has been a period in which
Common Law did not recognize Christianity as laying at its foundation."
CB
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22 Sep 2003 07:16:54 PM |
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:39:47 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
Joseph Story, in his 1829 inaugural address as Dane Professor of Law at
Harvard University, stated that "there never has been a period in which
Common Law did not recognize Christianity as laying at its foundation."
Most scholars recognize the "dark ages" left little civilized government except that
of the Holy Roman Empire.
What other 'influences' do stupid assholes like you think were available?
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No one wants a foul mouthed ***** working for him, no matter
what skin he wears.
I've owned and sold two landscape businesses for more money
that you'll earn in 20 years. I have employed hundreds if
not thousands of people. I know a ***** after just a
short time hearing him talk, work and complain.
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| User: "Carol Lee Smith" |
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| Title: Re: Today's Founder Quote: "Most of the great universities of the West were founded with the conviction that theology is the queen of the disciplines" |
22 Sep 2003 06:39:33 PM |
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On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, CB wrote:
Today's Founder Quote:
"Our country is in danger, but not to be despaired of. Our enemies are
numerous and powerful; but we have many friends, determining to be free, and
Heaven and Earth will aid the resolution. On you depend the fortunes of
America. You are to decide the important question, on which rest the
happiness and liberty of millions yet unborn. Act worthy of yourselves."
--Joseph Warren
Joseph Warren the Freemason?
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In the Old Operative Charges of Freemasonry, prior to 1717, there was a
specific mandate to every Freemason "in every country to be of the
religion of that country, whatever it was." The Constitution of 1723,
written by Dr. Anderson, an Episcopal minister, at the order of the Grand
Lodge of England, is considered to be one of the most important results of
the revival of Speculative Masonry. The most striking feature of the
Constitution was to forevermore make Freemasonry and religious tolerance
synonymous. As a result, Freemasonry has no quarrel with any religion of
the world. In Dr. Anderson's Constitution, all Freemasons were admonished
"to keep the religion in which all men agree, leaving their particular
opinions to themselves."
But what is "the religion in which all men agree?" Although we are all
Freemasons, the Christian remains a Christian, the Jew a Jew, the Moslem a
Moslem, the Buddhist a Buddhist, and so on. They each adore and worship an
abstraction they call God, but each has his own conception of who and what
God is.
Freemasonry's creed is based in the Gospel of Love that is a world panacea
for intolerance. Our simple creed is: `I believe in God, the Father
Almighty." This does not mean a belief in any particular notion of God,
and in this creed Freemasonry has no quarrel with, nor is it intolerant
of, any man for his faith and trust as revealed in the Sacred Book of his
particular religion. To the Christian Freemason the Book of Law is the Old
and New Testaments, to the Jew the Pentateuch, to the Muslim the Koran, to
the Brahman the Vedas, and to the Parsee the Zend-Avesta.
Nor does Freemasonry have any quarrel with the man who has no conception
of Deity, and who has no Sacred Book from which to draw his inspiration
and hope. However, as Freemasonry believes in God the Eternal Father, he
who cannot accept this simple creed must remain forever outside our
Fraternity.
Freemasonry zealously guards the right and duty of every man to worship in
the way his heart loves best, granting to every other man the same
precious privilege. This simple creed is the very fundamental canon that
serves as the footstone of Freemasonry. It is upon this belief that our
beautiful system of morals is erected.
Freemasonry preaches universal toleration - the right of every man to
abide by his own faith as well as the right of all countries to govern
themselves without interference. Freemasonry stands today, and as it
always has, as the proud champion of religion and religious liberty, the
foe of irreligion and irreligious liberty; for freedom, but not license;
for tolerance, but not anarchy; for civil liberty, but not tyranny; for
patriotism, but not treason; for sobriety, but not intemperance; for hope,
but not despair; for love, but not hate. Freemasonry knows no nationality
as its kingdom is in the hearts of men.
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| User: "Thales" |
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23 Sep 2003 09:27:00 AM |
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The "stars" associated with the solar system, such as the planets and
asteroids (and it should be remembered that the term "star" in
Biblical usage applies to any heavenly body other than the sun and
moon) would be particularly likely to be involved, in view of the
heavy concentration of angels, both good and evil, around the planet
Earth.
--Henry Morris
President, Institute for
Creation Research
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| User: "Al_Lien proud_liberal2003ATyahoo.com" |
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23 Sep 2003 09:39:00 AM |
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(Thales) wrote in
news:528e05a5.0309230627.625b3de3@posting.google.com:
The "stars" associated with the solar system, such as the planets and
asteroids (and it should be remembered that the term "star" in
Biblical usage applies to any heavenly body other than the sun and
moon) would be particularly likely to be involved, in view of the
heavy concentration of angels, both good and evil, around the planet
Earth.
--Henry Morris
President, Institute for
Creation Research
that clears THAT up!
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| User: "Thales" |
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23 Sep 2003 04:49:42 PM |
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A second possible thing that creationists might look for is some kind
of an instrument that will detect darkness. It is my conclusion, based
on [scripture] that darkness is a positive thing.
--Richard Niessen
Professor,
Christian Heritage College
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| Title: "Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil." - John 3:19 |
24 Sep 2003 10:50:44 AM |
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"Thales" <Thales_Anaximander@msn.com> wrote in message
news:528e05a5.0309231349.47570140@posting.google.com...
A second possible thing that creationists might look for is some kind
of an instrument that will detect darkness. It is my conclusion, based
on [scripture] that darkness is a positive thing.
--Richard Niessen
Professor,
Christian Heritage College
"Who is more foolish - the child afraid of the dark or the man afraid of the
light?" - Maurice Freehill
"He whom love touches not walks in darkness." - Plato
"The beginning of faith is the beginning of fruitfulness; but the beginning
of unbelief, however glittering, is empty."
- Goethe (1749-1832)
"If trouble comes from having the light turned on reemmber that it is not
really due to the light but to the misconduct which is exposed."
- T.R. Roosevelt
"In the nmidst of death, life persists. In the midst of untruth, truth
persists. In the midst of darkness, light persists. Hence I gather that God
is Life, Truth, Light."
- Mohandas Gandhi
"Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light
because their deeds were evil." - John 3:19
There is no such thing as darkness; only a failure to see.
- Malcolm Muggeridge
"Having cut off the higher aspirations of man, those connected with the
soul, Hobbes and Locke hoped to find a floor beneath him, which Rousseau
removed. Man tumbled down into what I have called the basement, which now
appears bottomless."
- Allan Bloom, the Closing of the American Mind
(Liberalism:) "The human race, according to religion, fell once, and in
falling gained knowledge of good and of evil. Now we have fallen a second
time, and only the knowledge of evil remains to us."
- G.K. Chesterton, Heretics
http://hjones.freeyellow.com/qlightdark.htm
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25 Sep 2003 08:49:44 AM |
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"CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote in message news:<bkse75$ldn$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>...
"Thales" <Thales_Anaximander@msn.com> wrote in message
news:528e05a5.0309231349.47570140@posting.google.com...
A second possible thing that creationists might look for is some kind
of an instrument that will detect darkness. It is my conclusion, based
on [scripture] that darkness is a positive thing.
--Richard Niessen
Professor,
Christian Heritage College
"Who is more foolish - the child afraid of the dark or the man afraid of the
light?" - Maurice Freehill
"He whom love touches not walks in darkness." - Plato
"The beginning of faith is the beginning of fruitfulness; but the beginning
of unbelief, however glittering, is empty."
- Goethe (1749-1832)
"If trouble comes from having the light turned on reemmber that it is not
really due to the light but to the misconduct which is exposed."
- T.R. Roosevelt
"In the nmidst of death, life persists. In the midst of untruth, truth
persists. In the midst of darkness, light persists. Hence I gather that God
is Life, Truth, Light."
- Mohandas Gandhi
"Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light
because their deeds were evil." - John 3:19
There is no such thing as darkness; only a failure to see.
- Malcolm Muggeridge
"Having cut off the higher aspirations of man, those connected with the
soul, Hobbes and Locke hoped to find a floor beneath him, which Rousseau
removed. Man tumbled down into what I have called the basement, which now
appears bottomless."
- Allan Bloom, the Closing of the American Mind
(Liberalism:) "The human race, according to religion, fell once, and in
falling gained knowledge of good and of evil. Now we have fallen a second
time, and only the knowledge of evil remains to us."
- G.K. Chesterton, Heretics
http://hjones.freeyellow.com/qlightdark.htm
So when are you planning on turning the light on?
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| User: "CB" |
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| Title: Re: "Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil." - John 3:19 |
25 Sep 2003 10:14:11 AM |
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"Thales" <Thales_Anaximander@msn.com> wrote in message
news:528e05a5.0309250549.477bb7cd@posting.google.com...
"CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote in message
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"Thales" <Thales_Anaximander@msn.com> wrote in message
news:528e05a5.0309231349.47570140@posting.google.com...
A second possible thing that creationists might look for is some kind
of an instrument that will detect darkness. It is my conclusion, based
on [scripture] that darkness is a positive thing.
--Richard Niessen
Professor,
Christian Heritage College
"Who is more foolish - the child afraid of the dark or the man afraid of
the
light?" - Maurice Freehill
"He whom love touches not walks in darkness." - Plato
"The beginning of faith is the beginning of fruitfulness; but the
beginning
of unbelief, however glittering, is empty."
- Goethe (1749-1832)
"If trouble comes from having the light turned on reemmber that it is
not
really due to the light but to the misconduct which is exposed."
- T.R. Roosevelt
"In the nmidst of death, life persists. In the midst of untruth, truth
persists. In the midst of darkness, light persists. Hence I gather that
God
is Life, Truth, Light."
- Mohandas Gandhi
"Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light
because their deeds were evil." - John 3:19
There is no such thing as darkness; only a failure to see.
- Malcolm Muggeridge
"Having cut off the higher aspirations of man, those connected with the
soul, Hobbes and Locke hoped to find a floor beneath him, which Rousseau
removed. Man tumbled down into what I have called the basement, which
now
appears bottomless."
- Allan Bloom, the Closing of the American Mind
(Liberalism:) "The human race, according to religion, fell once, and in
falling gained knowledge of good and of evil. Now we have fallen a
second
time, and only the knowledge of evil remains to us."
- G.K. Chesterton, Heretics
http://hjones.freeyellow.com/qlightdark.htm
So when are you planning on turning the light on?
It's been on for about 15 years now.
How many Dims does it take to screw in a light bulb?
None, they sued the power company for charging them for what should be an
entitlement and they where tossed back into the Dark Ages
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| User: "Thales" |
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| Title: Re: "Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil." - John 3:19 |
25 Sep 2003 06:36:10 PM |
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"CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote in message news:<bkv0eg$1i5$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com>...
"Thales" <Thales_Anaximander@msn.com> wrote in message
news:528e05a5.0309250549.477bb7cd@posting.google.com...
"CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote in message
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"Thales" <Thales_Anaximander@msn.com> wrote in message
news:528e05a5.0309231349.47570140@posting.google.com...
A second possible thing that creationists might look for is some kind
of an instrument that will detect darkness. It is my conclusion, based
on [scripture] that darkness is a positive thing.
--Richard Niessen
Professor,
Christian Heritage College
"Who is more foolish - the child afraid of the dark or the man afraid of
the
light?" - Maurice Freehill
"He whom love touches not walks in darkness." - Plato
"The beginning of faith is the beginning of fruitfulness; but the
beginning
of unbelief, however glittering, is empty."
- Goethe (1749-1832)
"If trouble comes from having the light turned on reemmber that it is
not
really due to the light but to the misconduct which is exposed."
- T.R. Roosevelt
"In the nmidst of death, life persists. In the midst of untruth, truth
persists. In the midst of darkness, light persists. Hence I gather that
God
is Life, Truth, Light."
- Mohandas Gandhi
"Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light
because their deeds were evil." - John 3:19
There is no such thing as darkness; only a failure to see.
- Malcolm Muggeridge
"Having cut off the higher aspirations of man, those connected with the
soul, Hobbes and Locke hoped to find a floor beneath him, which Rousseau
removed. Man tumbled down into what I have called the basement, which
now
appears bottomless."
- Allan Bloom, the Closing of the American Mind
(Liberalism:) "The human race, according to religion, fell once, and in
falling gained knowledge of good and of evil. Now we have fallen a
second
time, and only the knowledge of evil remains to us."
- G.K. Chesterton, Heretics
http://hjones.freeyellow.com/qlightdark.htm
So when are you planning on turning the light on?
It's been on for about 15 years now.
How many Dims does it take to screw in a light bulb?
None, they sued the power company for charging them for what should be an
entitlement and they where tossed back into the Dark Ages
Dark ages? Youre still there. Your worldview is Medeival.
http://community-2.webtv.net/Tales_of_the_Western_World/RELIGIOUSLIBERTY/index.html
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| Title: Re: "Light has come into the Emptiness between CBLOON'S Ears. |
24 Sep 2003 11:23:17 PM |
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:50:44 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
You cannot hide from this, Barta.
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:11:06 -0500, "CB"
<CB@prayforme.com> wrote like a rightwing scumbag;
I could go on for days you *****
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| User: "CB" |
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| Title: Re: "Light has come into the Emptiness between CBLOON'S Ears by way of His Master and King Jesus |
25 Sep 2003 10:09:13 AM |
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<pineapple@crackpot.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:50:44 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
You cannot hide from this, Barta.
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:11:06 -0500, "CB"
<CB@prayforme.com> wrote like a rightwing scumbag;
I could go on for days you *****
You are a low life Gary. There are no social redeeming values you have
demonstrated here. You have demonstrated your constant racist statements.
Your vocabulary is limited to bigoted words of hate. I wouldn't hire you and
I'm sure the people who've taken chances on you are disappointed in your
attitude for your (employment) superiors. You've twisted everything I've
said to be negative and ugly. Yes, to me you've proved your character.
--
CB
"He who is void of virtuous attachments in private life is, or very soon
will be, void of all regard for his country."
--Samuel Adams
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25 Sep 2003 10:07:32 AM |
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<pineapple@crackpot.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:50:44 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
You cannot hide from this, Barta.
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:11:06 -0500, "CB"
<CB@prayforme.com> wrote like a rightwing scumbag;
I could go on for days you *****
You are a low life Gary. There are no social redeeming values you have
demonstrated here. You have demonstrated your constant racist statements.
Your vocabulary is limited to bigoted words of hate. I wouldn't hire you and
I'm sure the people who've taken chances on you are disappointed in your
attitude for your (employment) superiors. You've twisted everything I've
said to be negative and ugly. Yes, to me you've proved your character.
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| Title: Re: "Light has come into the Emptiness between CBLOON'S Ears...Barta cries |
25 Sep 2003 05:36:41 PM |
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 11:07:32 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
<pineapple@crackpot.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:50:44 -0400, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
You cannot hide from this, Barta.
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:11:06 -0500, "CB"
<CB@prayforme.com> wrote like a rightwing scumbag;
I could go on for days you *****
You are a low life Gary. There are no social redeeming values you have
demonstrated here.
I'm not the racist, homophobic bigot around here, you sleazy shitbag........YOU ARE
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<CB@prayforme.com> wrote:
Anyone who speaks like a low down and ugly
person shouldn't be surprised to be called a *****.
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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23 Sep 2003 08:32:45 PM |
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:49:42 -0500, Thales wrote
(in message <528e05a5.0309231349.47570140@posting.google.com>):
A second possible thing that creationists might look for is some kind
of an instrument that will detect darkness. It is my conclusion, based
on [scripture] that darkness is a positive thing.
--Richard Niessen, Professor,
Christian Heritage College
Thusly were darksuckers created.
Gray Shockley
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When trouble arises and things look bad, there is always one
individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take
command. Very often, that individual is crazy. -Author Unk
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