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25 Apr 2005 07:10:21 AM |
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VA Public School Supports Religion |
A member of
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
posted this on said website
Date: Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:34 am
Subject: VA Public School Supports Religion
By way of the grapevine:
Some Public School in Virginia (along that Route 81 corridor) has a number
of religious promoting things on their Math website. The teacher (with
apparent support from administration since some of these things are still
there) had Pascals' Wager and a few others, but took some of them down
after a complaint.
He still has these up...
Psalm \/2
A Prayer for the Salvation of the Math Students
Psalm http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/poetry/mpoet.html
Biblical Pi
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/poetry/mpoet.html
Here were the others as they appear now:
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/facts/godexist.html
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/facts/psalm46.html
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/facts/wager.html
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/facts/biblemth.html
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/facts/biblmth2.html
Here were the cached originals (thanks to Satanhimself):
http://tinyurl.com/7fdp4
http://tinyurl.com/9mbvn
http://tinyurl.com/cs7a7
http://tinyurl.com/aabyx
http://tinyurl.com/bj95k
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ADDED BY ME:
Winchester Public Schools
http://www.wps.k12.va.us/
Department of
Mathematics
John Handley High School
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/mathhome.html
Ten Commandments of Mathematics (with apologies to the K.J.V.)
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/humor/tencommd.html
From the Ten Commandments
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord Thy God, in vain-
(Ex. 20:7)
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/humor/curse.html
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
***********************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[Below is a discussion group for the above site]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
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| User: "Richo" |
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| Title: Re: VA Public School Supports Religion |
25 Apr 2005 10:33:37 PM |
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wrote:
A member of
HRSepCnS =B7 Hampton Roads SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
posted this on said website
Date: Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:34 am
Subject: VA Public School Supports Religion
By way of the grapevine:
Some Public School in Virginia (along that Route 81 corridor) has a
number
of religious promoting things on their Math website.
I don't think that is quite true.
I'll tell you what I see.
I see some amusing/quirky references to maths and mathematicians using
the Bible.
The Bible - along with Shakespear, Mark Twain and the animated films of
Disney- is part of world literature. It is a part of our common
culture.
Finding mathematical connections in The Bible or "Finding Nemo" is not
promoting the truth of the existence of God or Noahs ark or talking
Clown Fish.
It's just finding interesting ways to think about numbers.
In other words: you are being paranoid.
Mark.
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| User: "ZenIsWhen" |
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| Title: Re: VA Public School Supports Religion |
26 Apr 2005 12:02:04 AM |
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"Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in message
news:1114486417.310216.289530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
buckeye-ELO@nospam.net wrote:
A member of
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
posted this on said website
Date: Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:34 am
Subject: VA Public School Supports Religion
By way of the grapevine:
Some Public School in Virginia (along that Route 81 corridor) has a
number
of religious promoting things on their Math website.
I don't think that is quite true.
I'll tell you what I see.
I see some amusing/quirky references to maths and mathematicians using
the Bible.
The Bible - along with Shakespear, Mark Twain and the animated films of
Disney- is part of world literature. It is a part of our common
culture.
***************But the bible is the ONLY one being quoted.
Finding mathematical connections in The Bible or "Finding Nemo" is not
promoting the truth of the existence of God or Noahs ark or talking
Clown Fish.
It's just finding interesting ways to think about numbers.
In other words: you are being paranoid.
**************************IOW - you've been brainwashed.
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| User: "Richo" |
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| Title: Re: VA Public School Supports Religion |
26 Apr 2005 08:01:13 PM |
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"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote in message news:<116riq86hura807@corp.supernews.com>...
"Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in message
news:1114486417.310216.289530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
buckeye-ELO@nospam.net wrote:
A member of
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
posted this on said website
Date: Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:34 am
Subject: VA Public School Supports Religion
By way of the grapevine:
Some Public School in Virginia (along that Route 81 corridor) has a
number
of religious promoting things on their Math website.
I don't think that is quite true.
I'll tell you what I see.
I see some amusing/quirky references to maths and mathematicians using
the Bible.
The Bible - along with Shakespear, Mark Twain and the animated films of
Disney- is part of world literature. It is a part of our common
culture.
***************But the bible is the ONLY one being quoted.
Incorrect.
There are several quotes grom Abbot and Costello Movies for example.
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/humor/abcost.html
Finding mathematical connections in The Bible or "Finding Nemo" is not
promoting the truth of the existence of God or Noahs ark or talking
Clown Fish.
It's just finding interesting ways to think about numbers.
In other words: you are being paranoid.
**************************IOW - you've been brainwashed.
By Whom?
I checked out the website myself and read what was there.
Checking things out for myself and comming to my own conlusion based
on my own observations is being "brainsashed"?
Weird.
By the way, I am a strong supporter of the idea of the seperation of
church and state.
I just don't believe that entails teachers pretending that the bible
doesnt exist or that there are no christians on planet earth.
Mark.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: VA Public School Supports Religion |
26 Apr 2005 11:55:40 AM |
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"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote:
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:|"Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in message
:|news:1114486417.310216.289530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
:|
:|buckeye-ELO@nospam.net wrote:
:|> A member of
:|>
:|> HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads SepChurch&State
:|> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
:|>
:|> posted this on said website
:|>
:|>
:|> Date: Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:34 am
:|> Subject: VA Public School Supports Religion
:|> By way of the grapevine:
:|>
:|> Some Public School in Virginia (along that Route 81 corridor) has a
:|number
:|> of religious promoting things on their Math website.
:|
:|I don't think that is quite true.
:|
:|I'll tell you what I see.
:|I see some amusing/quirky references to maths and mathematicians using
:|the Bible.
:|The Bible - along with Shakespear, Mark Twain and the animated films of
:|Disney- is part of world literature. It is a part of our common
:|culture.
:|
:|***************But the bible is the ONLY one being quoted.
:|
:|Finding mathematical connections in The Bible or "Finding Nemo" is not
:|promoting the truth of the existence of God or Noahs ark or talking
:|Clown Fish.
:|It's just finding interesting ways to think about numbers.
:|
:|In other words: you are being paranoid.
:|
:|**************************IOW - you've been brainwashed.
:|
Gee guy, you missed something essential
You missed this
A member of
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
posted this on said website
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How could you miss that?
Why would you miss that?
I shared the post because I found the post interesting.
You also made no mention of the following either:
Date: Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:34 am
Subject: VA Public School Supports Religion
By way of the grapevine:
Some Public School in Virginia (along that Route 81 corridor) has a number
of religious promoting things on their Math website. The teacher (with
apparent support from administration since some of these things are still
there) had Pascals' Wager and a few others, but took some of them down
after a complaint.
He still has these up...
Psalm \/2
A Prayer for the Salvation of the Math Students
Psalm http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/poetry/mpoet.html
Biblical Pi
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/poetry/mpoet.html
Here were the others as they appear now:
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/facts/godexist.html
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/facts/psalm46.html
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/facts/wager.html
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/facts/biblemth.html
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/facts/biblmth2.html
Here were the cached originals (thanks to Satanhimself):
http://tinyurl.com/7fdp4
http://tinyurl.com/9mbvn
http://tinyurl.com/cs7a7
http://tinyurl.com/aabyx
http://tinyurl.com/bj95k
************************************
[Now this was added by me with no comnment one way or the other]
ADDED BY ME:
Winchester Public Schools
http://www.wps.k12.va.us/
Department of
Mathematics
John Handley High School
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/mathhome.html
Ten Commandments of Mathematics (with apologies to the K.J.V.)
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/humor/tencommd.html
From the Ten Commandments
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord Thy God, in vain-
(Ex. 20:7)
http://www.pen.k12.va.us/Div/Winchester/jhhs/math/humor/curse.html
*****************************************************************************************
.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
***********************************************************************
You are invited to check out the following:
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[Below is a discussion group for the above site]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: VA Public School Supports Religion |
26 Apr 2005 08:06:08 PM |
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wrote:
"ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote:
:|
:|"Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in message
:|news:1114486417.310216.289530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
:|
:|buckeye-ELO@nospam.net wrote:
:|> A member of
:|>
:|> HRSepCnS =B7 Hampton Roads SepChurch&State
:|> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
:|>
:|> posted this on said website
:|>
:|>
:|> Date: Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:34 am
:|> Subject: VA Public School Supports Religion
:|> By way of the grapevine:
:|>
:|> Some Public School in Virginia (along that Route 81 corridor)
has a
:|number
:|> of religious promoting things on their Math website.
:|
:|I don't think that is quite true.
:|
:|I'll tell you what I see.
:|I see some amusing/quirky references to maths and mathematicians
using
:|the Bible.
:|The Bible - along with Shakespear, Mark Twain and the animated
films of
:|Disney- is part of world literature. It is a part of our common
:|culture.
:|
:|***************But the bible is the ONLY one being quoted.
:|
:|Finding mathematical connections in The Bible or "Finding Nemo" is
not
:|promoting the truth of the existence of God or Noahs ark or
talking
:|Clown Fish.
:|It's just finding interesting ways to think about numbers.
:|
:|In other words: you are being paranoid.
:|
:|**************************IOW - you've been brainwashed.
:|
Gee guy, you missed something essential
You missed this
A member of
HRSepCnS =B7 Hampton Roads SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
posted this on said website
Sorry!
I should have written : "THEY are being paranoid."
Didn't mean to shoot the messenger.
Cheers, Mark.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: VA Public School Supports Religion |
28 Apr 2005 12:08:59 PM |
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wrote:
:|buckeye-...@nospam.net wrote:
:|> "ZenIsWhen" <here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote:
:|>
:|> >:|
:|> >:|"Richo" < > wrote in message
:|> >:|news:1114486417.310216.289530@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
:|> >:|
:|> >:|buckeye-ELO@nospam.net wrote:
:|> >:|> A member of
:|> >:|>
:|> >:|> HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads SepChurch&State
:|> >:|> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
:|> >:|>
:|> >:|> posted this on said website
:|> >:|>
:|> >:|>
:|> >:|> Date: Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:34 am
:|> >:|> Subject: VA Public School Supports Religion
:|> >:|> By way of the grapevine:
:|> >:|>
:|> >:|> Some Public School in Virginia (along that Route 81 corridor)
:|has a
:|> >:|number
:|> >:|> of religious promoting things on their Math website.
:|> >:|
:|> >:|I don't think that is quite true.
:|> >:|
:|> >:|I'll tell you what I see.
:|> >:|I see some amusing/quirky references to maths and mathematicians
:|using
:|> >:|the Bible.
:|> >:|The Bible - along with Shakespear, Mark Twain and the animated
:|films of
:|> >:|Disney- is part of world literature. It is a part of our common
:|> >:|culture.
:|> >:|
:|> >:|***************But the bible is the ONLY one being quoted.
:|> >:|
:|> >:|Finding mathematical connections in The Bible or "Finding Nemo" is
:|not
:|> >:|promoting the truth of the existence of God or Noahs ark or
:|talking
:|> >:|Clown Fish.
:|> >:|It's just finding interesting ways to think about numbers.
:|> >:|
:|> >:|In other words: you are being paranoid.
:|> >:|
:|> >:|**************************IOW - you've been brainwashed.
:|> >:|
:|>
:|> Gee guy, you missed something essential
:|>
:|> You missed this
:|>
:|>
:|> A member of
:|>
:|> HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads SepChurch&State
:|> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
:|>
:|> posted this on said website
:|>
:|
:|Sorry!
:|I should have written : "THEY are being paranoid."
:|Didn't mean to shoot the messenger.
:|
:|Cheers, Mark.
Thanks
I appreciate that.
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