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30 Jun 2007 05:50:22 PM |
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"Virgin birth" proven by science |
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
***Virgin Birth: Shark Expert Comments On Parthenogenesis***
Science Daily — Birds do it, bees do it, and now there is evidence that female sharks are able to
do it on their own -- without the contribution of male DNA. A recent report from a team of American
and Irish researchers has concluded that the mysterious appearance in 2001 of an infant female
bonnethead shark at Omaha’s Henry Doorly Zoo in a tank that held only two adult female sharks was
the result of parthenogenesis (Gr. virgin birth.) Parthenogenic reproduction takes place without
fertilization by a male through the process of cell division, when the mother’s egg fuses with a
degenerative cell called a polar body, producing a new individual.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/06/070622213311.htm
Jd
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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01 Jul 2007 09:44:57 AM |
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In alt.atheism On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:50:22 GMT, Jd
<ZionsFire@att.net> let us all know that:
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
And notice how no god was involved. Interesting, huh?
Don
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Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "quibbler" |
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30 Jun 2007 06:27:09 PM |
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In article <dpud831qtvain7sjbb16vp22t2n3qdkiii@4ax.com>,
ZionsFire@att.net says...
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
***Virgin Birth: Shark Expert Comments On Parthenogenesis***
Now all you have to do is prove that a human could do it and produce a
male offspring. Try again.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "MemePilot" |
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30 Jun 2007 09:46:40 PM |
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On Jun 30, 7:27 pm, quibbler <quibbler...@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <dpud831qtvain7sjbb16vp22t2n3qdk...@4ax.com>,
ZionsF...@att.net says...
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
***Virgin Birth: Shark Expert Comments On Parthenogenesis***
Now all you have to do is prove that a human could do it and produce a
male offspring. Try again.
What's all the hoopla over "virgin birth", especially as Christians
describe it. Given todays technology, all you need is to find a virgin
that is capable of giving birth (most likely the hard part in this
equation) and take her to almost any fertility clinic. With egg
harvesting and in vitro fertilization we can get her pregnant with
ever breaking her hymen or ever having sperm inside her. More over
with todays technology and morals she would at least have some say
over the process and be able to pick the father. now it you were
unscrupulous and the women a little naive, you probably could do it
with out the women realizing that you are getting her pregnant, but
that would be totally unethical not to mention illegal. Hmm, should
Megan's Law apply to God.
MemePilot
"Believing is Seeing"
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FootNotes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGaYD40Gxu0
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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01 Jul 2007 09:25:44 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:46:40 -0700, MemePilot
<memepilot@cox.net> spoke thusly:
On Jun 30, 7:27 pm, quibbler <quibbler...@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <dpud831qtvain7sjbb16vp22t2n3qdk...@4ax.com>,
ZionsF...@att.net says...
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
***Virgin Birth: Shark Expert Comments On Parthenogenesis***
Now all you have to do is prove that a human could do it and produce a
male offspring. Try again.
What's all the hoopla over "virgin birth", especially as Christians
describe it. Given todays technology, all you need is
"Today's technology" didn't exist back then.
"Believing is seeing"
Well then, you must not believe in lots of things
that we know exist.
See sig.
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Pastor Dave
Expand and go out into the ocean of your faith.
God doesn't do His deepest work in the shallowest
part of the water.
The world says that seeing is believing.
The Bible says that believing is seeing.
Doctrine is not Scripture.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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01 Jul 2007 09:35:40 AM |
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On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 10:25:44 -0400, in alt.atheism
Pastor Dave <noway@nowhere.com> wrote in
<s8ef83llcgq50v9vt3o1pu6rbbmleoa7ao@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:46:40 -0700, MemePilot
<memepilot@cox.net> spoke thusly:
On Jun 30, 7:27 pm, quibbler <quibbler...@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <dpud831qtvain7sjbb16vp22t2n3qdk...@4ax.com>,
ZionsF...@att.net says...
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
***Virgin Birth: Shark Expert Comments On Parthenogenesis***
Now all you have to do is prove that a human could do it and produce a
male offspring. Try again.
What's all the hoopla over "virgin birth", especially as Christians
describe it. Given todays technology, all you need is
"Today's technology" didn't exist back then.
Nor did the son of a virgin.
"Believing is seeing"
Well then, you must not believe in lots of things
that we know exist.
See sig.
The Bible is not reliable.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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30 Jun 2007 07:56:22 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:27:09 -0600, quibbler wrote:
In article <dpud831qtvain7sjbb16vp22t2n3qdkiii@4ax.com>,
ZionsFire@att.net says...
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
***Virgin Birth: Shark Expert Comments On Parthenogenesis***
Now all you have to do is prove that a human could do it and produce a
male offspring. Try again.
Let's see, parthenogenesis produces female offspring so Jeebus was a
female shark!
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "johac" |
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01 Jul 2007 02:03:34 AM |
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In article <AKCdnbAJ4qIrZhvbnZ2dnUVZ_v_inZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:27:09 -0600, quibbler wrote:
In article <dpud831qtvain7sjbb16vp22t2n3qdkiii@4ax.com>,
ZionsFire@att.net says...
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
***Virgin Birth: Shark Expert Comments On Parthenogenesis***
Now all you have to do is prove that a human could do it and produce a
male offspring. Try again.
Let's see, parthenogenesis produces female offspring so Jeebus was a
female shark!
Cue "Jaws" music.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "quibbler" |
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01 Jul 2007 08:38:33 AM |
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In article <jhachmann-1ADE6B.00033401072007@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net says...
In article <AKCdnbAJ4qIrZhvbnZ2dnUVZ_v_inZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:27:09 -0600, quibbler wrote:
In article <dpud831qtvain7sjbb16vp22t2n3qdkiii@4ax.com>,
ZionsFire@att.net says...
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
***Virgin Birth: Shark Expert Comments On Parthenogenesis***
Now all you have to do is prove that a human could do it and produce a
male offspring. Try again.
Let's see, parthenogenesis produces female offspring so Jeebus was a
female shark!
Cue "Jaws" music.
Just when you thought it was safe to go in the baptismal water, duh-dunt,
duh-dunt,....
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "johac" |
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01 Jul 2007 06:33:38 PM |
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In article <MPG.20f15c435294b22e989ff0@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-1ADE6B.00033401072007@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net says...
In article <AKCdnbAJ4qIrZhvbnZ2dnUVZ_v_inZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:27:09 -0600, quibbler wrote:
In article <dpud831qtvain7sjbb16vp22t2n3qdkiii@4ax.com>,
ZionsFire@att.net says...
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
***Virgin Birth: Shark Expert Comments On Parthenogenesis***
Now all you have to do is prove that a human could do it and produce a
male offspring. Try again.
Let's see, parthenogenesis produces female offspring so Jeebus was a
female shark!
Cue "Jaws" music.
Just when you thought it was safe to go in the baptismal water, duh-dunt,
duh-dunt,....
That would make a great YouTube video. Show the priest about to baptize
the baby and in the baptismal font, a large shark's fin appears. With
the music, of course.
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John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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30 Jun 2007 08:01:59 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:56:22 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:27:09 -0600, quibbler wrote:
In article <dpud831qtvain7sjbb16vp22t2n3qdkiii@4ax.com>,
ZionsFire@att.net says...
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
***Virgin Birth: Shark Expert Comments On Parthenogenesis***
Now all you have to do is prove that a human could do it and produce a
male offspring. Try again.
Let's see, parthenogenesis produces female offspring so Jeebus was a
female shark!
No, that was Natalie Wood.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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01 Jul 2007 08:44:38 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:01:59 -0400, Christopher A.Lee wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:56:22 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:27:09 -0600, quibbler wrote:
In article <dpud831qtvain7sjbb16vp22t2n3qdkiii@4ax.com>,
ZionsFire@att.net says...
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
***Virgin Birth: Shark Expert Comments On
Parthenogenesis***
Now all you have to do is prove that a human could do it and produce a
male offspring. Try again.
Let's see, parthenogenesis produces female offspring so Jeebus was a
female shark!
No, that was Natalie Wood.
No, that was Jeebus' dinner...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"What the hell is an aluminum Falcon?"
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| User: "Lars Eighner" |
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30 Jun 2007 05:53:06 PM |
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In our last episode, <dpud831qtvain7sjbb16vp22t2n3qdkiii@4ax.com>, the
lovely and talented Jd broadcast on alt.atheism:
Parthenogenic reproduction
can only produce female offspring.
--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> <http://myspace.com/larseighner>
Countdown: 569 days to go.
Owing to googlegroups not screening users to eliminate spammers and other
USENET abusers, I do not see most posts from googlegroups.
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| User: "mel turner" |
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30 Jun 2007 06:13:39 PM |
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"Lars Eighner" <usenet@larseighner.com> wrote in message
news:slrnf8dnq2.9l5.usenet@goodwill.larseighner.com...
In our last episode, <dpud831qtvain7sjbb16vp22t2n3qdkiii@4ax.com>, the
lovely and talented Jd broadcast on alt.atheism:
Parthenogenic reproduction
Is commonplace in biology.
can only produce female offspring.
In humans and other mammals. Jesus must have been a girl, or
perhaps miracles unsupported by science were required after all.
In some others types of animals [birds, some lizards] it produces
only males. In others it produces only females, such as in those
asexual whiptail lizards in the southwest that engage in "lesbian"
sex activities with one another to stimulate egg production.
In Hymenoptera, unfertilized eggs produce haploid males, whereas
fertilized eggs produce diploid females. Drone bees thus have no
father.
In plants, asexual reproduction may typically produce bisexual
individuals like their parents commonly are.
cheers
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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02 Jul 2007 12:58:54 PM |
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mel turner wrote:
"Lars Eighner" <usenet@larseighner.com> wrote in message
news:slrnf8dnq2.9l5.usenet@goodwill.larseighner.com...
In our last episode, <dpud831qtvain7sjbb16vp22t2n3qdkiii@4ax.com>, the
lovely and talented Jd broadcast on alt.atheism:
Parthenogenic reproduction
Is commonplace in biology.
can only produce female offspring.
In humans and other mammals. Jesus must have been a girl,
===>Well, Jesus is identified with the goddess HOKHMA (Sophia)of
the book of Proverbs. -- L.
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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30 Jun 2007 08:19:40 PM |
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Lars Eighner <usenet@larseighner.com> wrote in
news:slrnf8dnq2.9l5.usenet@goodwill.larseighner.com:
In our last episode, <dpud831qtvain7sjbb16vp22t2n3qdkiii@4ax.com>, the
lovely and talented Jd broadcast on alt.atheism:
Parthenogenic reproduction
can only produce female offspring.
And suck the miracle out of the event.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
Eskimo: "If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"
Priest: "No, not if you did not know."
Eskimo: "Then why did you tell me?"
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| User: "TheLetterK" |
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30 Jun 2007 06:53:33 PM |
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Lars Eighner wrote:
In our last episode, <dpud831qtvain7sjbb16vp22t2n3qdkiii@4ax.com>, the
lovely and talented Jd broadcast on alt.atheism:
Parthenogenic reproduction
can only produce female offspring.
Maybe there's something we don't know about the "Son"...
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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30 Jun 2007 06:02:30 PM |
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On 30 Jun 2007 22:53:06 GMT, Lars Eighner <usenet@larseighner.com>
wrote:
In our last episode, <dpud831qtvain7sjbb16vp22t2n3qdkiii@4ax.com>, the
lovely and talented Jd broadcast on alt.atheism:
Parthenogenic reproduction
can only produce female offspring.
Which is why the "H" is short for Haploid.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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02 Jul 2007 12:55:55 PM |
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Jd wrote:
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
***Virgin Birth: Shark Expert Comments On Parthenogenesis***
Science Daily — Birds do it, bees do it, and now there is evidence that female sharks are able to
do it on their own -- without the contribution of male DNA. A recent report from a team of American
and Irish researchers has concluded that the mysterious appearance in 2001 of an infant female
bonnethead shark at Omaha’s Henry Doorly Zoo in a tank that held only two adult female sharks was
the result of parthenogenesis (Gr. virgin birth.) Parthenogenic reproduction takes place without
fertilization by a male through the process of cell division, when the mother’s egg fuses with a
degenerative cell called a polar body, producing a new individual.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/06/070622213311.htm
Jd
===>But the "virgin birth" story says Mary WAS impregnated
(by Theos/Zeus?) -- L.
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "" |
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02 Jul 2007 11:34:58 AM |
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On 1 jul, 00:50, Jd <ZionsF...@att.net> wrote:
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
***Virgin Birth: Shark Expert Comments On Parthenogenesis***
Science Daily - Birds do it, bees do it, and now there is evidence that female sharks are able to
do it on their own -- without the contribution of male DNA. A recent report from a team of American
and Irish researchers has concluded that the mysterious appearance in 2001 of an infant female
bonnethead shark at Omaha's Henry Doorly Zoo in a tank that held only two adult female sharks was
the result of parthenogenesis (Gr. virgin birth.) Parthenogenic reproduction takes place without
fertilization by a male through the process of cell division, when the mother's egg fuses with a
degenerative cell called a polar body, producing a new individual.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/06/070622213311.htm
Jd
Any boys being produced ?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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30 Jun 2007 07:55:29 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:50:22 +0000, Jd wrote:
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
Jesus was a shark?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
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| User: "Jd" |
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20 Jul 2007 04:57:33 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:50:22 +0000, Jd wrote:
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
Jesus was a shark?
Goodness. I didn't know that you wanted to turn this into a religious discussion.
I'll have to consider the task to see whether or not I'm up to fighting your "faith" or not.
Cults are usually live on pretty tough debating turf......
Jd
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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20 Jul 2007 05:32:09 PM |
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:57:33 +0000, Jd wrote:
Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:50:22 +0000, Jd wrote:
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
Jesus was a shark?
Goodness. I didn't know that you wanted to turn this into a religious
discussion. I'll have to consider the task to see whether or not I'm up
to fighting your "faith" or not. Cults are usually live on pretty tough
debating turf......
Who are you and what are you on about?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
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| User: "Stan-O" |
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01 Jul 2007 09:15:52 AM |
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:55:29 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:50:22 +0000, Jd wrote:
In birds, bees and now sharks.....
Jesus was a shark?
Well, maybe not in a literal sense...
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